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random lockups

Is anyone else getting random lockups on their phone? it seems like no matter what rom i use it locks up at least once or twice a day. it seems that sense is the only thing that does lock up, as i cant hit the home button and have it go back to it.
anyone?

yeah, it happens to me too...to the point I have to remove the battery

Same here, it usually locks up once every 24 hours or so, and most times it's not even a full lockup, just the homescreen does. cause i can hit the windows button, and end button will lock the phone, just the main Today screen. Sometimes time fixes it, and it'll fix itself. but most times i take battery out

It all has to do with sense.....Horrible i know

eosrider said:
Is anyone else getting random lockups on their phone? it seems like no matter what rom i use it locks up at least once or twice a day. it seems that sense is the only thing that does lock up, as i cant hit the home button and have it go back to it.
anyone?
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I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not

Same here
I've hard reset this thing, seriously, 20 times. Same setup as yours. I will try the sd card removal. Thanks for sharing the info.
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I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
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depgary,
Thanks for that bit of information. I went ahead and formatted my my sd card today. (Fat32, 32kb allocation unit size.) the phone hasn't locked up yet. i feel that by this amount of time i would have seen one. i'll post another reply if it locks any time soon. thanks guys!

eosrider said:
depgary,
Thanks for that bit of information. I went ahead and formatted my my sd card today. (Fat32, 32kb allocation unit size.) the phone hasn't locked up yet. i feel that by this amount of time i would have seen one. i'll post another reply if it locks any time soon. thanks guys!
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Well, It's been 6 days and no freeze ups with the SD card removed, tomorrow I'll put the reformatted SD card back in and test it further, so far, so good

Here's a question: Do you think T-Mobile put the fastest SD cards on the market in this phone?
I simply changed the provided card for one that I purchased a week or so before I got the phone on launch day. No problems.

The ones Tmobile put in there are cheap class 2 cards. Reformatting the card has seemed to help. You would probably have better luck with a class 6 card. I'm going to wait till the price of the 32gig cards come down then get one.
EDIT: OK so I reformatted my card and its only showing 14gigs of storage, I know its not going to be exactly 16gigs of storage but I should have more than that. Anyone else have this issue?

depgary said:
I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
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I would like to try this myself. does anybody know what class card comes with the new motorola droids? I'm thinking of switching out my card with girlfriend's.

SEscobedo said:
I would like to try this myself. does anybody know what class card comes with the new motorola droids? I'm thinking of switching out my card with girlfriend's.
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droids come with a 8gb.
Still without issue, no lockups.
I also noticed that it was only 14.x gb free. i think its normal though.

eosrider said:
droids come with a 8gb.
Still without issue, no lockups.
I also noticed that it was only 14.x gb free. i think its normal though.
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I think you are wrong as she just got the phone and it definitely has a 16gb card.

defective phone
i think the ramdom lock-ups are associated with the phone and not the custom ROMs. i've flashed about 6 different TMO-US rom from here and they all lock up my phone. so they all can't be bad, right? well, the other thing i noticed was that when it did lock up, i could feel the bottom-half of the phone was hot, right below the battery cover. i think my phone is defective because if i multi-task, it gets hot then locks up. i'm going to return it for a new one. anyone else have this problem?
nick714

depgary said:
Well, It's been 6 days and no freeze ups with the SD card removed, tomorrow I'll put the reformatted SD card back in and test it further, so far, so good
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Well folks, I put the reformatted SD card back in, while I was scrolling through my pictures testing out the card, guess what, the devise froze up, had to reset it, about 4 hours later, while going through the pictures again, it froze up again, reset it. Then, as before, after a long charge, the phone would not wake up, had to reset again, that's 3 times sense I put the SD card back in. To test the card out thoroughly, I watched Transformer part 1 to the end, and no freeze up, so I cannot say if the SD card is bad, I'm getting ready to try a new card now.
The problem may be with the Devise's SD driver. Another thing I noticed is that with the card out, the battery lasted a good 50% longer
This is just my test, but, it seems to me the devise runs better without the SD card installed.
I'll return with an update after the new SD card test run
****Update: Tried the new SD card, the devise froze up while scrolling through the pictures. I don't believe it's the SD cards, seems like a glitch in the SD hardware or the SD driver. My devise works just fine without the SD card installed, who would think that it may be the SD drivers causing the freeze ups. I wonder how long it will take for HTC or WinMo to accept and fix the problem.
Is there a developer on this thread that can come up with a fix, or a better SD driver software?

nick714 said:
i think the ramdom lock-ups are associated with the phone and not the custom ROMs. i've flashed about 6 different TMO-US rom from here and they all lock up my phone. so they all can't be bad, right? well, the other thing i noticed was that when it did lock up, i could feel the bottom-half of the phone was hot, right below the battery cover. i think my phone is defective because if i multi-task, it gets hot then locks up. i'm going to return it for a new one. anyone else have this problem?
nick714
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Same here, the back of my phone would be hot as well, try removing the SD card for a few days, as I did, and see if your phone stops freezing up, mine seems to work great without the card installed, and the battery last longer.

will buy a new one and see
i def think its the card, maybe it gets hot when you charge/ run heavy apps like wifi and when it goes to read the card it miss reads and freezes, cause i install all apps on my card as to not clutter the fone just yet, i will def be buying a new sdcard and probably swapping out cards hahaha and returning old stock one. hahah thus having a sweet better class 16g card for free

I get frequent lockups with Sense, but when I switch to the standard Winmo interface, it never locks up. I don't think it's the memory card as much as HTC's sense.

lock up exiting messaging
I have had the phone since the 14th, I am running the stock T-Mobile USA rom (not flashing another rom until I decide if I'm going to keep the phone) The only time that I have had the phone lock up is when exiting the messaging tab on Sense.
It seems to have started after I updated the myphone application in order to back up text messages.

Phone keps freezing

This is starting to become a constant issue and very annoying that i have to turn my phone off and back on. Also it lags like crazy and yes i check task manager nothing is open. This phone is an amazing piece of hardware but has a terrible software built into it...WHy the **** didnt HTC fix these issues when they released it on T-mobile they had 9months...

do an experiment. Try taking out the Micro SD card for a day and see if it still is having latency issues.

Mine only does that because my sd card is full of music and gps software. So it's to be expected if yours is the same. I was told by HTC if I want to keep music on my phone I should have it on the phone and not on the sdcard. Because every time you plug it in or turn it off it forgets where the music is stored on the card and what music is on there and has to refile everything.

Yes, It's the sd card...it sucks!

secano said:
Yes, It's the sd card...it sucks!
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what kind of sd card do you use?

Why does it freeze so much? how do i fix this problem?

KidTech said:
Why does it freeze so much? how do i fix this problem?
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Did you do what SEscobedo suggested?

i upgraded to a class 6 sd card and the lagging has stopped. the only lag i get now is just during texting/sms

josemedina1983 said:
what kind of sd card do you use?
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the class 2...

Terrible Phone
My first phone kept freezing even after I Master Reset it. I did that 3 times. My sd doesn't have anything on it except for the preloaded pictures that were already there. To keep my phone from freezing, I have to "End All Task" every time i use it. It still froze. This became so annoying. Finally, i got fed up. I felt i got a defective phone. I went back to the TMobile store and got the phone replaced... Got my second phone.... was so relieved... for a few days only!!!! Until the second one got defected too. The vibrator stopped working and the weather sense thing was weird. It kept displaying a moon when it's like mid-day with the sun out bright and shiny. Browsing the web was hell. I Master Reset it.... same thing... today, I went back to TMobile to return the phone. Don't be fooled by the looks... the inside is rotten!

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KidTech said:
This is starting to become a constant issue and very annoying that i have to turn my phone off and back on. Also it lags like crazy and yes i check task manager nothing is open. This phone is an amazing piece of hardware but has a terrible software built into it...WHy the **** didnt HTC fix these issues when they released it on T-mobile they had 9months...
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I use to have freezing issues as well until I stopped windows live/hotmail from synching my mail automatically. I have my hotmail setup manually now. I've not had any freezing for several days now and I do not have to close ant apps with task manager. In addition, my battery life is greatly improved.
By the way, I am using the sd card that came with the device. Hope this information helps.

Thats the thing i dont have my email set up to automatic, i have gmail set up on manual...

My phone never freezes anymore. I upgraded to a ROM that gets rid of the HTC messaging client. Thank God!

I hate Microsoft's messaging client and i like HTC's client, so i don't want to turn it off but it is so slow if you have lots of messages.

my phone was freezing every day and even did a few resets and nothing. finally flashed a cooked rom and almost all the problems went away. i started out with energy's rom and that thing was crazy fast, no more lag at all. now im on dutty's (just because its oem looking) and its fast and problem free, phone never lags and never freezes on me like it used to and its just as fast as energy's. so i suggest that to everyone here having problems. since i was in the same boat. im still using the oem sd card also.

GT-i9000m has been locking up recently to the point of removing the battery.

It went from extremely rarely doing it to three or four times just the other night in the span of a few hours. I can't reproduce it on command but it happens when I lock the screen and put it in my pocket. Then sometimes when I take it out it is entirely non-responsive, even the power button doesn't work. I have to remove and reinsert the battery.
It could be ADW Launcher or WidgetLocker since those are the only two programs always running, but I was hoping someone else experiences a similar issue. It hasn't happened when I normally lock it yet though, so it could also be the proximity sensor maybe?

Having the same issue (on Bell as well), but not running either of those two apps. Was almost to the point of returning the phone and then installed JM7 and it's been better, although not perfect. Last night it locked up with NoLED displaying an icon, so I've deleted that app to see if that's the issue. It hasn't locked up today, but it did reboot a few hours ago seemingly at random. :shrug:

Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .

clubtech said:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
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Oh, that doesn't sound pleasant at all...
I'm outside of Bell's 30 day exchange period plus I've talked for over 30 minutes, so I'll have to go through Samsung if it completely breaks. On the plus side, a phone from them should be three button recoverable.
Although I can't be without a phone for weeks, I hope it's not the SD card.

Mine Lags like crazy once every few days till the point I need to restart it. Any idea why this is do?
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Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m

AllGamer said:
Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
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All gamer has a good sugestion here BUT we are going to get people flaming the fact that Android shouldnt need task managers.....
Ho hum..
TBH in my experience, I have found (after a couple of hard resets) that there appears to be a size limit for installed apps. Once I get over this size limit, I get LAGTASTIC, phone slows to a snails pace, then I remove a few of the apps and I am back at light speed again....
I cant say what the limit is, but I know when I have hit it - I would then uninstall a lame app or two and get back running.

Yes a lot of people "claims" that, but yet you do a search in Android Market, you see LOTS of Task Manager / Killer apps for every phone.
they were not designed for Galaxy S, they were designed long ago for all the other phones that had and still have the same problems of memory management causing lags
Android is not robust enough to survive without one
heck not even Windows 7 or Windows Mobiles phone

I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.

Frostshock said:
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
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i don't think that is the case with the Galaxy S
however back then my Treo 650 did suffer from that.
if you believe that is the problem then try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7999389&postcount=28
more cool apps here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7999389

[Q] Touchscreen unresponsive after wakeup

About 50% of the time when i wake up my phone and try to drag down the lock screen, the touchscreen doesn't respond. The music widget on the lockscreen also does not respond when i tap it. I have tried restarting and it still does it. At first I thought it was when the wifi was on, but the problem exists either way. Anyone have any suggestions? I am running mdj froyo sense revolution 1.7. Any help would be appreciatied.

3agle said:
About 50% of the time when i wake up my phone and try to drag down the lock screen, the touchscreen doesn't respond. The music widget on the lockscreen also does not respond when i tap it. I have tried restarting and it still does it. At first I thought it was when the wifi was on, but the problem exists either way. Anyone have any suggestions? I am running mdj froyo sense revolution 1.7. Any help would be appreciatied.
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Dude I had the same problem with mine running that rom. I would turn screen on and off till touch screen worked. It gradually got worse and worse till it just stopped working. Don't know if its the rom that cuased it or just my device since my touchscreen just gave out and no longer works on windows or android. It's sent off for repair.

i'm also having this same problem with the combo in my sig. very annoying.

Now the problem has spread to winmo too. i have a horrible feeling the touchscreen is going bad as well. what do you have to do to get it back to stock so you can get a replacement?

3agle said:
About 50% of the time when i wake up my phone and try to drag down the lock screen, the touchscreen doesn't respond. The music widget on the lockscreen also does not respond when i tap it. I have tried restarting and it still does it. At first I thought it was when the wifi was on, but the problem exists either way. Anyone have any suggestions? I am running mdj froyo sense revolution 1.7. Any help would be appreciatied.
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I have exactly the same problem ! With hd roms too.

For all friends experiencing this issue here is my sum-up:
- HD2 (as I read somewhere) has slightly different resolution than what Android places on the screen (difference in 4 pixels I guess) - but this should not be the issue for normal operation right? Well, maybe yes maybe not.
- My screen went dead completely after using many ROMs but the longest I used was hyperdroid - again I don't think it is build related but hardware related issue.
- I sent back to Tmobile mine and got replacement - but until this one will work we will see...
Solution in USA: I have enrolled myself in extended warranty for $2/mo -- technically it covers the phone for as long as you have it (exclusions are of course liquid and physical damage) but anything else - covered. I even asked what happens if HD2 is discontinued and they said I would get comparable replacement of my choice. Therefore, I am covered.
NOTE: Tired tonight to do any updates - but Im gonna install back HD rom now and move on - push it really hard until it dies again ahahhahaha - cuz guess what? I don care - since im covered now...

it is the power button (AP Board); it gets stock inside. my does it all the time i just played with the botton untill it goes. the AP Board needs to be replace.

Is that a bug of android or is my hd2 defect?

its cuz of the setcpu

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its cuz of the setcpu
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What do you mean?

Have the same problem!! the screen won't come back up on after going on sleeping mode if the phone is unused for 5 m or more. Very anoying coz i love android.

adr205 said:
Have the same problem!! the screen won't come back up on after going on sleeping mode if the phone is unused for 5 m or more. Very anoying coz i love android.
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This is not the problem we are experiencing. You are experiencing the sleep of death.
What we are experiencing (MYSELF INCLUDED - THOUGH NOT AS OFTEN) is an unresponsive screen when the screen comes on and go to the lock screen, though it wont register the unlock swipe. It takes a good 3-5 seconds for it to become responsive. Not a deal breaker but definitely annoying as hell!
I am having the same issue as the OP and i wish someone can find a way to fix it because it is very annoying.

It's caused by low SD card speed when r/w small block. I used kingstone SD card before, i had the same problem as you. After I switched to Sandisk, the problem is gone. I test the speed of two card, for large block r/w, they had the same speed, but for small block. Sandisk is 20 times faster than kingstone.

ferretzhu said:
It's caused by low SD card speed when r/w small block. I used kingstone SD card before, i had the same problem as you. After I switched to Sandisk, the problem is gone. I test the speed of two card, for large block r/w, they had the same speed, but for small block. Sandisk is 20 times faster than kingstone.
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HUmm... tell me why my 8GB class 6 has this problem then?
I assume class 10 will complete remove the issue?

ferretzhu said:
It's caused by low SD card speed when r/w small block. I used kingstone SD card before, i had the same problem as you. After I switched to Sandisk, the problem is gone. I test the speed of two card, for large block r/w, they had the same speed, but for small block. Sandisk is 20 times faster than kingstone.
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thank you my friend. I Change it and all is ok.

Um try waking the screen with other button than the power one that sud help but this is a hardware issue I experience it too and it usually get worse over time so best bet for u is to send it in under your repair or get yrself a replacement but it doesn't have anything to do with specific Rom just is that android puts so much stress on our hardware button because Android heavily relies on the keys through the operating system and the hardware keys ware out and cause this issue so look into this as well but before you send it in revert It back to the stock Rom
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No I am pretty sure that it is not a hardware issue. I to have had it, and it is gone the only thing i can relate it to is that i stoped using mdjays kernell,, and started to use hastarin again. well it sure is a longshot but mine works perfekt again.

Do your finger on the sensor and turn it on.

I have the default 16 Gb class 2 card tmobile usa gave me and my hd2 did this on all builds until the new hastarin recently and it stopped it. Has not come back yet. So, while the sd card may have some pull in this issue, the kernel can play a factor too. Try using hastarin's kernel just for a day and see if it works.

ummm ive come up with this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868452

[Q] TPT extremely slow with SD card installed

Hi guys,
I recently got the TPT 3G 64GB and was pretty happy except for the occasional lag. But it was bearable. Also, I found that widgets slows it down a bit, so I got rid of most of them.
Then I got the Transcend 32GB Class 10 SDHC card to expand the memory. I put all my photos in there which is around 20GB. Then I suddenly found the TPT to be really laggy all the time. I couldn't figure it out. I thought it was beacause of some apps I installed. But nothing helped. Then I just removed the SD card from my TPT and did a reboot. Immediately I saw the difference!! It's back to its normal speed.
This is very alarming. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? This is not normal, right?
- Surja

Try adw ex launcher ....
Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using XDA App

maek_it_happen said:
Try adw ex launcher ....
Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using XDA App
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I thought there was a problem with the native launcher, but I would like ta have a better understanding before switching to adw.
Could you tell me more about what is happening ?
Thanks

Just try any other launcher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_Launchers
Zeam has a reputation for being clean (very essential), fast, and good on older phones.
you also may want to try:
1. a physically different card, perhaps a much smaller one to see if that makes a difference
2. a card you have formatted in the machine you intend to use it primarily
3. if you create a Linux Ubuntu boot CD and load up GParted (I'ts a bit to get into, but once you're in, you're in, and it's so incredibly handy) you can inspect and create partitions with whatever format you like. I don't, but could in a pinch use Ubuntu as a daily driver for a PC/laptop, so if my Windows dies, I have a slower, but free backup plan.
4. take a flashlight and a magnifying glass and check to make sure the pins that connect to the card look absolutely tidy. They're fragile, and if something's .1mm off, it could, on the outside chance, confuse things just enough to slow things down a lot rather than stopping things entirely.
5. Call Lenovo. It's your civic duty to report a problem. They may already have a fix, they may just escalate pursuing a fix they've gotten some/not enough calls on, or they may blow you off but you know & have record that you alerted them if there ends up being a class action lawsuit or whatever. It's just the smart and upstanding way to go.
6. Try the card that's giving you problems in a store model if you can find one. See if it does the same thing.
HTH