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I've been using the hero for about a week now, pretty solidly. At first I was getting annoyed with laggy accelerometer, laggy screen switches, lagg keyboard... last few days it seems like it has sped up hugely. I normally have a few RSS feeds, hi msn, music player, browser, maybe last fm and a few other bits open, especailly yesterday and today have noticed no appreciable slowdown.
So for people who are getting annoyed at sense, give it a week. I think dealing with a slightly laggy phone for a few days is a decent enough tradeoff for eventually getting a fast one, that still has the joys of sense.
Does anyone have any idea why it gets faster? Could it be a mechanism similair to windows superfetch, or perhaps some kind of self-optimising code? Or just psychological Whatever is it, I no longer get those little flashes of annoyance with the thing.
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Or just psychological .
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It will be this.
Cheers, I feel enlightened.
I personally suspect there's some kind of profiling/prefetching going on in android, maybe based around the preload daemon.
Did you change to a class 6 microSD card? I have heard that android maintains a swap file on it and everything works better with a class 6 card rather than the slower class 4 one supplied in the box.
Just a thought...
I've been using a Class 6 card since i started using the hero and i haven't noticed any lag at all. For those who are experiencing lag, is you handset unbranded?
Hm. My UI actually slowed down instead of speeding up. This especially after I rooted the Hero and installed Chinese IME. Might also come from the fact that the number of apps on my phone keeps growing and growing...
I'm white unbranded (beautiful...) and there's quite literally no lag anymore. You know the bit where you type and get ahead of the keyboard? Stopped happening on tuesday.
Man and machine in perfect harmony
I've also experienced some terrible lag on the keyboard and am hoping that what you report is correct. I should also be getting my 8 gb micro sdhc card today or tomorrow (class 6) so hopefully that will speed things up a little also. I'll let you guys know how It goes.
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I've also experienced some terrible lag on the keyboard and am hoping that what you report is correct. I should also be getting my 8 gb micro sdhc card today or tomorrow (class 6) so hopefully that will speed things up a little also. I'll let you guys know how It goes.
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How do you indentity the class of the sd card? is there a code printed on it?
Mansn, i've PM'ed you, check your message inbox.
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How do you indentity the class of the sd card? is there a code printed on it?
Mansn, i've PM'ed you, check your message inbox.
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Depends, some cards there is a number in the top right corner, others just don't have anything. There is a program for the PC when you put the memory card in a card ready which will assess its speed, just can't remember what its called.
Mine is lagging as much as it was on the first day. I'm curious about the class6 sd. Maybe it's a solution. Thank you for keeping in touch about that
My keyboard has slowed back down again It's started lagging and selecting the alt-key at least once a text message. The rest of it seems to have slowed back down aswell. I'm going to try work out what's doing this, at the moment the two new apps I've used are Peep and imeem.
I believe I have an 8gig class6 sd. Might be class4.
Using a class 2, 4 or 6 won't speed up the UI since it's on the main memory not on the card.
I have a class6 and it is laggy
Whilst most of my experience with the Hero has been lagged it just seems to get worse day after day.
The keyboard for example which I loved at first has become quite appalling to use now, I mean i've never been a fast typer on virtual keyboards but I feel now that with the keyboard as it is now on my phone is actually slowing me down further!
The phone slows down a little for me to from time to time. I just reboot it and it is real fast again. Also I'm hoping that the Class 6 Transcend card will give a noticeable boost.
Klling peep really seems to help. It does seem like a good amount of the HTC software has lots of room for improvement, but it makes the phone so much nicer to use than standard android. Hopefully we'll get an update soon.
why don't the apps just close when you shut them? ok i understand peep and mail... still running as it updates at intervals but i had 10 apps running last night, albums, video player, barcode scanner, google maps, doggcatcher and more, the phone was almost unuseable.
i know mine has speeded back up after i uninstaled a few apps.
Locale seemed to really slow mine down, Peep does as well, and astrid kept causing the home button bug.
Since i got rid of those, it is a whole heap better.
mm i use astrid, what is the home screen bug? do use any other app in its place?
hadn't even started using it to be honest. got it as a plug in for locale so i could have GPS based reminders, but didn't get a chance to try it out.
basically the bug is in a few other threads, where once you hold the home key to view recent apps, it unlocks the binding to touchflo and it asks whether you want to use touchflo or the base android homescreen.
stopped as soon as i uninstalled astrid. also happens with Task Manager by Wing Shen. but that is another thread....
Hi all,
A few of us on the SD card list thread have tried this and it seems to be stablizing things....the theory as we are working with now is that the problem is due to a power control issue in the Samsung drivers for the phone, not especially in the card itself.
No ill effects have been reported as of yet, and the battery life seems to be on par with before the switch was made. It is a simple fix, and can be reversed easily.
I ran the phone for 2 months without a card, and with these keys toggled, it is actually FASTER than it was. I don't fully believe it, but it has been over a week and rock solid.
First off, you need to dev unlock your phone. See the thread here for simple and complete instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938106
Next off, you need to toggle the following 3 registry keys in the Registry Editor provided in the above post:
The keys have to do with MMC (internal memory) power management.The big speed improvements is in games/apps (Fruit Ninja opens and operates leaps and bounds faster than it did when the phone did stock!)
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>MMC_Class>DisablePowerManagement (Change to 0)
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>MMC_Class>High_Capacity>DisablePowerManagement (Change to 0)
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>SDMemory_Class>DisablePowerManagement (Change to 0)
One point of note here, do not be afraid if the phone locks up the first time soft resetting after these changes, mine did and it was fine after a battery pull.
Also, I would be interested to hear any theories about why this one made such a big difference when it seemingly affects only the internal storage. Maybe because the two storage devices are "bridged" by WP7?
Comment below with your experiences please!
If this gets enough test results, we will submit it to Microsoft. Thanks!
As I already mentioned:
Up to now I just did the SD card registry hack. The device is now stable for over 3 days, longer than ever before.
Battery life wasn't noticable affected, lasted for around 40h with moderate usage (thumbs up indeed).
In fact without this registry hack I wasn't able to get down to an empty battery without those reboting/dataloss issues.
But I need some more days, then I will change the MMC registry key also.
No speed improvements mentioned up to now.
I applied the hack to all three keys. So far, it is much less laggy. Not sure if that will return after 4+ weeks as before, but here's a pretty cool side effect:
After the hack, my screen does not stop responding to touch when the phone is placed on my desk or a soft surface, like a couch cushon. It was getting really annoying because I often place mu phone on my desk during the day for easy access, but every time I tried to onlock it, it would not respond unless I picked it up. Sometimes, it's nice to leave it lying down and operate it. Couldn't do that before, but I can now! WooHoo! Thank you for this.
I'll report back if it starts up again in a couple weeks.
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Whoa! I just tested this and you are correct! More proof that the Samsung power drivers are full of problems. Who would have thought?
For testing purpose I changed the MMC Keys also and made some Videos (no I won't upload them). There were absoluteley no differences in app loading times (ok, i know the longer loading apps are pretty much all stored on the sd card, ) and also not in overall performance, although this isn't provable easily.
I changed the keys back to normal, but kept the sd card key change to 0.
I address the positive speed effects to sdcard key for now. Perhaps i will make some tests without any reg change in the next few days.
Still stable as hell!
Edit: Damn I forgot to test the not responding problem (even though i didn't notice it that often and badly)
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For testing purpose I changed the MMC Keys also and made some Videos (no I won't upload them). There were absoluteley no differences in app loading times (ok, i know the longer loading apps are pretty much all stored on the sd card, ) and also not in overall performance, although this isn't provable easily.
I changed the keys back to normal, but kept the sd card key change to 0.
I address the positive speed effects to sdcard key for now. Perhaps i will make some tests without any reg change in the next few days.
Still stable as hell!
Edit: Damn I forgot to test the not responding problem (even though i didn't notice it that often and badly)
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As I mentioned above, I'm hoping it's not just a result of resetting something and it still returns in a few weeks. Although, the thing about the screen touch response not working when laying on something is COMPLETELY GONE! That alone is worth the setting change. It really was annoying for me the way I use the phone. Thank you to eveyone involved in finding this setting.
PS: From my perception, I don't believe my battery is behaving any differently. Although, I would imagine if it were scientifically tested, it surely would be using slightly more juice. But it still had the normal amount left in the evening, and I probably used it slightly more testing it out. Maybe getting the screen to perform better uses less power?
For the sake of completeness: I set the sd card key back to 1, and I do not experience any slow down in overall performance or in app loading times. Still I cannot reproduce any of those not responding issues you mentioned.
For today and tomorrow I will stay with this setting an will wait for a random reboot. Let's see what and when it happens.
tried this with a 16gb class2 sandisk... loaded it up to 9.25 left and the reboot monster came... but it was weird... it would rebllt like every 30 sec with no loss then poof all lost...then rendom self reboot all mem would reappear and start the reboot process all over.... now it didnt do this till it was unplugged.... plugged in it was fine... reformatted... re set up did the tweak... loaded and the same as before... so for me no... but im going to test it with another card on the list... heres to hoping....
but it does fix the sitting on the bed and unresponsive gimmick.....
So would this be worthwhile even for someone without an sdcard? For the screen response issue i mean. It's so annoying haha.
edit: Screw it i went ahead and did it hah. It def fixed the touch screen responsiveness issue!
Which cards?
Can you guys post the specific SD cards you are testing this with. I am curious to see if somebody has tested it with the Sandisk class 2 32gb card. Thanks.
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Can you guys post the specific SD cards you are testing this with. I am curious to see if somebody has tested it with the Sandisk class 2 32gb card. Thanks.
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Sebo's testing with a SanDisk Class 4 32GB card which ended up being more stable (before it failed and before he tried the registry stuff) than the Class 2s from Sandisk.
Based on what you have read, would it be best to get rid of the class 2 32gb card or wait to see if there is an actual fix? Since this seems to be a power issue based on the fix, does it really matter what class it is then? Thanks.
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Based on what you have read, would it be best to get rid of the class 2 32gb card or wait to see if there is an actual fix? Since this seems to be a power issue based on the fix, does it really matter what class it is then? Thanks.
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Something to keep in mind is that this registry hack is relatively new. Some people managed to go for weeks without issues on an unmodified WP7 with a card. It's entirely possible that these hacks are just a stopgap, or a reset, and actually *fix* nothing.
Theoretically, the card shouldn't matter. If I hadn't locked my 32GB Class 4 Kingston to my old (bricked) Focus, I would try it with the current one and see if doing the registry tweaks fixes the slow sync issue on it. Someone in the SD Card List thread claims to have done the registry tweaks and it ended up failing badly too with a 16GB Class 2 Sandisk. However, the 16GB Class 2 Sandisk is one of the more reliable ones (without tweaks) through the limited testing this board has done, so it's possible he has a bad card.
In brief, it shouldn't matter (within reason) what brand/class/capacity you use. If this tweak is the real deal, it should work, especially if your only concern is random reboots. However, you still would want to avoid cards with extremely high class ratings at typically their random read/write is slow (which the most common usage of the storage in WP7). In terms of performance, there's no guarantee as to what these tweaks will do as the only consistent change has been that phones that would constantly reboot due to their cards aren't (yet).
However, to answer your initial question, I don't believe anyone has tested a Class 2 Sandisk 32GB card. I wouldn't put too much faith that your card will have the exact same results as Sebo's class 4 because we aren't certain what the cause is. We believe it's power, but we're not 100% sure. If you're already using the card in your phone, you don't really have much to lose. If you're not using it yet, then you only have something to lose if you, like me, don't have a Nokia/Symbian phone that you can use to reformat the card if it fails.
Good post fishface.... That's where most are thinking its a fix.. This is just a theory right now.. That's why there's another post wanting testers... my find was it did fix the sensitivity issue...theres no doubt on my end.. But card wise my 16gb class2 SanDisk worked before I tried this until I hit 15gb used... Then it went goofy... I tried it 5 times.. Same thing. Just about 15gb used was where the instability happened. Soon as the reg hack hit I read thru it.. I love reg edits.. Made my Omnia 2 &hd2 quite decent phones... That's when I saw the mention of others thinking this too.. So I took my 16gb class2 SanDisk that I freshly brought back to life, and decided to test it out... I posted the results before... Plugged in no issue.. Unplugged it went goofy at 12.7 used... I was stable at that point before without the edits... Not saying it doesn't help but it made mine worse... I'm still going to try other cards though .. I do think there is something to this... I might try different scenarios of the edit... What's it going to hurt..i mean were here for the same goal to help find a solution... Well except the lurkers..you all know who you are..lol. But again. Great post fishface...
Thanks for all of the info. I guess fix is the wrong word to use, but i was just trying to get an idea of what others have done. Whenever i would pass the 10gb mark, mine would do a full wipe after a couple of restarts. I still have my 32gb card in my phone, because there really is no point of taking it out and possibly loosing it. Plus i was hoping an official fix would come out so i could just apply the patch. I have been waiting to see when the MS update would come out so i could do a full backup before running test. Thank you for your help.
anyone tried messing with block sizes? Default is 128. I'm wondering if maybe your sd card has trouble with that block size its causing the lagginess. Who knows lol....
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Also I'm still using my 32gb Kingston class 4. I have all 3 keys set to 0. And its still going strong other than that one reset I had. MMC block size 128 sd block size 128. If my sd card can't handle that large of a block size I would have instability.
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Anyone know if this also fixes the song stuttering issue? That's definitely power related since it only happens in the last couple of seconds of a song if the screen is off. One you turn it back on, the music plays perfectly.
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Anyone know if this also fixes the song stuttering issue? That's definitely power related since it only happens in the last couple of seconds of a song if the screen is off. One you turn it back on, the music plays perfectly.
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I haven't had a chance to test that yet but I'll post if I have any issues
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I'm stuck. Made it through the first three downloads and have my phone unlocked.
Followed Registry Editor link and downloaded RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0.xap. My computer will not open up this file because it doesn't know what program to use, so I tried to download it straight to my phone and my phone says it doesn't support xap. What steps am I missing?
How do I get into the registry to change the three tabs?
I noticed lately that when I get a phone call, I can't slide to answer when the phone is locked also when it is sitting for awhile charging or not, when I slide the lock button, the touch screen freezes and takes a few minutes to recover before I am able to make calls, text or use any application.
My DX is rooted andI am running leaked Gingerbread, however I was having the same issue with the Stock rom. I do not use any task killers.
I have installed Droidwall and Titanium back up.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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I noticed lately that when I get a phone call, I can't slide to answer when the phone is locked also when it is sitting for awhile charging or not, when I slide the lock button, the touch screen freezes and takes a few minutes to recover before I am able to make calls, text or use any application.
My DX is rooted andI am running leaked Gingerbread, however I was having the same issue with the Stock rom. I do not use any task killers.
I have installed Droidwall and Titanium back up.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Are you overclocking?
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No overclock, no task killers. I use titanium back up and did not freeze or remove any apps. It is strange and reminds me of a laptop coming back from the hibernate estate, it takes a few minutes to reset and then is good to go.
Mine has been doing the same exact thing!
I have removed fancy widgets which is a nice Clock/Weather combo widget but I have a feeling that it might be the culprit.
I'll keep posting any findings and again help from the experts will be greatly appreciated.
We need to compare our installed apps to see if there is a common one. I don't have fancy widgets but I have MUIU clock/weather app and it seems really wonky.
I have pretty much traced this down to a bad MicroSD. Oddly, my PC will still be able to use them. My Nexus One wouldn't even touch the SD card that was freezing my Droid X.
Looks to me like Motorola left something out of its SD or FAT driver.
Is there a fix?
Right on the dot. I removed the SD card and "voila" no more slow downs. I guess must be something. related to the drivers, as you mentioned.
Today, I put back the Sdcard and gotfrom the Market place an overclock applicatkon called Droid Over lo k. So far is going good and very fast, however overclocking is always risky and shortens the life of any processor.
I'll keep you updated.
didn't work for me... seemed to help at first but I got the lock ups again today. About to move on from Motorola.
OK! After trying different combinations such as SD card, no SD card, Rooted, UN-Rooted etc.
Finally, out of desperation, I got my old HTC and pulled out the 16G SD card, put it on my DX and used it for 3 days with no freezes or lock ups so far. The funny thing is that this SD card that I put in, is a low end cheap Polaroid brand.
I'll keep you updated
It is a known fact that the SD cache is low on the Droid X. Higher class cards will have problems unless the cache size is raised. Even than, it's not a guarantee for success. I have a Class 10 card that caused crashes daily until I installed a mod for the cache size. Didn't solve all of my issues, but it stop the crashes.
You are absolutely right. I have been doing ok with the low end card. Recently I got from the market an app called SD Speed which raises the card cache and no matter which card I use now the systrm runs very smooth.
Thank you all for the help and feedback.
Running CM7 last "stable" from SD card & it has been working fine. Using Zeam launcher.
After a few days of not using it & it being charged, when I start it, I first get notices "Problem loading widget" at all 4 locations on screen. Then I start seeing FCs for a bunch of apps that I haven't launched. Gmail, YouTube, FBReader etc. Also, almost every app I launch gets FC. Market works though??
I next updated to the latest Nightly 87 & it is the same. Over a period of time I see FCs for many apps that I haven't launched. What should I reload to get back to a functional device, 'cause right now it's not uneable??
Thanks,
kev
Update: It appears that un & reinstalling all offending apps has solved the problem. Not sure if I have any other issues that are linked to whatever happened, but I will give it a workout.
I like the graphic when it goes to sleep! Or is that not intentional & a bug? Talking about the video collapsing into a vertical line before going dark. Very retro.
I'm still using 7.0.3 (stable) but have encountered the same thing. I keep on adding widgets every now and then because of the issue. I also have more FCs now than usual. It was running fine for more than a week or so. I just want it to be stable...
Another day into it, and it's getting worse. I have to reboot every time I try to do something because of FC for mostly all the apps I try to run. I try to run, say Aldiko, it will crash. So I reboot then it's ok. I'll try to run another app, it will also crash so the cycle goes on and on. I'd hate to re-flash and do everything again but it doesn't seem to give me any choice.
I have the same issue, I started turning off features and its running better now.
Im running on a transend 16gb HC class 10 (nook/encore) if that makes any difference. I to just want it to work....
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I have the same issue, I started turning off features and its running better now.
Im running on a transend 16gb HC class 10 (nook/encore) if that makes any difference. I to just want it to work....
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It more than likeyly is your issue... test on a cheap sandisk class 2, 4 or 6 card and see the difference.
The issue is that higher class cards have high sustained thru put... but are much slower in small reads/writes... and that is what our devices are doing. lower class cards tend to have very high small read/write speeds... but do not have high sustained large read/writes.
Hope this makes sense.
Bottom line... hard to beat cheap and readily available sandisk uSD's for our devices.
Yup, and they need to be sandisk branded in particular.
I have cheap class 2 drives that are nonbranded oem stuff and they cause fc's also.
So my suggestion is sandisk branded.
Hi folks, got my A500 refurb for 200 bucks last night. Its mint, and so far awesome. I am coming from a Nook Color as my last tablet so this is a huge jump. Updated OTA to ICS this morning.
Couple of simple questions:
1. How do I turn off haptic feedback? It wasn't on when it was on HC, but in ICS it has it, the vibrate on this thing is strong enough for it to be annoying. I looked under keyboard settings which is where it is on any of my old devices, and its not there, unless I missed it?
2. Does this thing go to sleep if you leave the screen off for an extended period, like shut off the wifi and go low power? my Nook does that, not sure if theres a setting I need to set. I left for work this morning and left it on my desk, on and connected to WiFi, am I gonna come home to 50% battery?
3. Tried the Hero of Sparta game on it last night while still on HC. Played great but the sound was choppy, I have heard some attribute sound issues to Dolby Mobile, is that the case? Should I try again with Dolby turned off?
4. I believe I read that you can't move apps to the SD card with ICS? Is that the case, because I bought an 8gb tab which means I'm gonna run out of space real quick. Can rooting fix that?
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Hi folks, got my A500 refurb for 200 bucks last night. Its mint, and so far awesome. I am coming from a Nook Color as my last tablet so this is a huge jump. Updated OTA to ICS this morning.
Couple of simple questions:
1. How do I turn off haptic feedback? It wasn't on when it was on HC, but in ICS it has it, the vibrate on this thing is strong enough for it to be annoying. I looked under keyboard settings which is where it is on any of my old devices, and its not there, unless I missed it?
2. Does this thing go to sleep if you leave the screen off for an extended period, like shut off the wifi and go low power? my Nook does that, not sure if theres a setting I need to set. I left for work this morning and left it on my desk, on and connected to WiFi, am I gonna come home to 50% battery?
3. Tried the Hero of Sparta game on it last night while still on HC. Played great but the sound was choppy, I have heard some attribute sound issues to Dolby Mobile, is that the case? Should I try again with Dolby turned off?
4. I believe I read that you can't move apps to the SD card with ICS? Is that the case, because I bought an 8gb tab which means I'm gonna run out of space real quick. Can rooting fix that?
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1. In sound settings
2. I'd be worried if I came home to find my battery at 50 per cent, you be fine
2. Check advanced wifi settings- can tell wifi when to sleep
3. Cant help with this, experiment and find out
4. Not heard of anyone running out - that usb port comes in mighty handy!!!
5. Welcome to the forum
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1. In sound settings
2. I'd be worried if I came home to find my battery at 50 per cent, you be fine
2. Check advanced wifi settings- can tell wifi when to sleep
3. Cant help with this, experiment and find out
4. Not heard of anyone running out - that usb port comes in mighty handy!!!
5. Welcome to the forum
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Thanks for the tips, I came home and it was at 92 percent
Shutting off Dolby did fix the sound problem
I put a 32 GB micro SD in it. I was concerned games wouldn't install to it, and apparently they don't. I don't have a lot installed and yet I have less than 1.5gb remaining.
Thanks for the welcome
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Thanks for the tips, I came home and it was at 92 percent
Shutting off Dolby did fix the sound problem
I put a 32 GB micro SD in it. I was concerned games wouldn't install to it, and apparently they don't. I don't have a lot installed and yet I have less than 1.5gb remaining.
Thanks for the welcome
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awesome you're welcome Hows that 32GB Card working, had any issues apart from being too small what brand and class is it m8???
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awesome you're welcome Hows that 32GB Card working, had any issues apart from being too small what brand and class is it m8???
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I got a sandisk class 4. It seems to work fine but the fact there's no way to move apps to it makes it a bit useless. I'm not much of a music/movie guy I usually use streaming so media space is wasted on me. Is there a fix for that yet?
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You might want to try App2sd from the google play store. The app won't move all apps to SD card, only apps that are moveable. So this app won't totally solve your problem but it should help.
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You might want to try App2sd from the google play store. The app won't move all apps to SD card, only apps that are moveable. So this app won't totally solve your problem but it should help.
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Yeah I have that but it apparently doesn't work with ICS. I read somewhere else here someone complained about this as well. The button doesn't even show up to move apps to SD.
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Yeah I have that but it apparently doesn't work with ICS. I read somewhere else here someone complained about this as well. The button doesn't even show up to move apps to SD.
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A lot of games and other Database apps usually save the Data to the Ext SD Card by default, or give you an option for location. At least what I've come across.
Rogue Leader said:
I got a sandisk class 4. It seems to work fine but the fact there's no way to move apps to it makes it a bit useless. I'm not much of a music/movie guy I usually use streaming so media space is wasted on me. Is there a fix for that yet?
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A Class 4 is a hair on the slow side, anyways. You would likely see a real world performance hit running apps off a class 4 card.
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A lot of games and other Database apps usually save the Data to the Ext SD Card by default, or give you an option for location. At least what I've come across.
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Yeah the games do save there, but you can't move the actual app to the SD card which is nice to do. I bought an 8 gb tab and with only about 10 games on there and whatever apps I have I'm down to only 1.5 gb.
EDIT: I am wrong. The games do not save there. If I look in ES File Explorer the /mnt/sdcard folder shows a bunch of stuff, yet when I pull the SD card and put it in my PC, its blank except a couple of android insertd folders. I believe ICS DOES NOT save to the SD card? Can anyone else check? In ES File explorer, the sd card I inserted is shown as folder "external_sd" while theres a separate sdcard folder of which nothing in there is on the sd card.
I am wondering if I can just copy the data to the SD card, delete the "sdcard" folder and rename external to "sdcard"
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A Class 4 is a hair on the slow side, anyways. You would likely see a real world performance hit running apps off a class 4 card.
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Class 4 is the go to card on many many phones, the higher classes suffer on performance for many phone tasks which are I/O but work great for recording video or taking pictures. Class 10 especially really is made for digital cameras and actually performs worse than a 4 on a phone/tablet.