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Damn...which phone to get?

When I read about the Atrix about a month ago I decided then and there that I would get one. Then the CES coverage sealed the deal. Now after reading these forums for the last 2 hours I'm not sure and it mostly comes down to the locked bootloader. I'm still rocking my Tilt 2 and am used to dropping whatever ROMs and software I want on it. I've been waiting for a decent AT&T phone with a hardware keyboard but since I appear to be **** out of luck for the foreseeable future I figure it's time to upgrade. This will be my first Android phone but I've read the posts explaining the problems with a locked bootloader. I don't use my phone for games, basically just call, text, email, RSS, tethering, a handful of apps and occasionally remoting in to servers. I'm hoping people here can give me some advice. Should I:
Go with the Atrix?
Go with the HTC Insprie 4G?
Wait for the LG Optimus 2X (assuming it comes to AT&T, T-Mo sucks here)?
Wait for the Samsung Galaxy S2 (assuming it comes to AT&T)?
As you can see I stick with phones for a long time so any help would be appreciated. Of course I'm leaning towards the dual-core phones for future-proofing. If the bootloader is never cracked will those of you who bought the Atrix still be happy with it?
TIA.

From what you've said you use your phone for it doesn't seem like a locked bootloader is really going to affect you. I use the Inspire and love it. I have been thinking about the Atrix but I'm just not a huge MOTO fan. With root out for both the Inspire and Atrix it really comes down to personal pref. I'm sure someone will find a way to get past the lockdown on the Atrix(hopefully)
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Is this trade worth it? From Inspire to Atrix

I will trade my Unlocked Rooted htc inspire +$100 for a Locked Atrix both phones has 1 week of use
Is it hard to unlock an atrix (I will not use AT&T)?
Will it have full features and capabilities with other roms?
Is it possible to brick it easy?
Is it worth it?
Thanks in advance!

Not worth it imho

Bought it new and locked for $300 in the streets, what if i find a deal without paying $100 or paying $50 top?
Edit: Will stay with my Inspire, why? Checked some videos and the atrix lags a bit even if it has that dual core processor and 1GB ram :S, also heard not every app is optimized for dual core yet, and the atrix has a maximum of 5 megapixel in the rear camera. Also I alredy unlocked my phone and don't have any trouble so I'm happy with it.

djzikario said:
I will trade my Unlocked Rooted htc inspire +$100 for a Locked Atrix both phones has 1 week of use
Is it hard to unlock an atrix (I will not use AT&T)?
Will it have full features and capabilities with other roms?
Is it possible to brick it easy?
Is it worth it?
Thanks in advance!
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it depend what you're planing to do with it.
i think atrix is better phone by spec .
it has future bc it's dual core, has better resol.,better ram, better memory, better battery .
it's not optimized great yet but with every update will get better.
unlocking cost around $20 . so not big deal.
possible to root it so easy to freeze crapware.
but
if you're looking for to flash new rooms ; atrix is not good choice.

rony05 said:
if you're looking for to flash new rooms ; atrix is not good choice.
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.... so far. Supposedly they're looking into unlocking the bootloader.... but no word on that yet. As i mentioned in another thread.... maybe there's a chance we'll see that when AT&T enables HSUPA on the Atrix. Could be why we have yet to see an unlocked bootloader..... wouldn't make sense to disable HSUPA with an unlocked bootloader if people would find a way to enable it alternatively. If AT&T wanted to test the network out first prior to enabling it.... no better way to do so.

Wow good point! However it would be in their interest to publicly announce that reasoning if it were true. What would be the downside in doing so? I could tell you 200 downsides of not doing so.
They are actvely ignoing us.. promised an answer to whether they would unlock it ever or not over 8 weeks ago.
Im returning my Atrix for an Inspire because motorola/ATT is trying to make an open source OS locked from my editing. That's like buying a car and being told you may not drive it on any roads other than the ones owned by our company. F that, im motoing away from motos and any other's dictatorship for good.
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HTC Sensation June 12th vs Waiting Samsung Galax SII

I have loved my N1 since launch day and love my T-Mobile service.
But am looking to upgrade to a dual-core phone with much more application space available and a better screen, performance, battery life, etc...
Is anyone in the same position as me and looking between these phones?
Also, do you all know if the "4G" bands for the Sensation will work for the LTE network of ATT should the merger go through?
Thanks for all your input!!

It would be nice if you knew whether HTC was going to retro the unlock to the sensation. Without this to me the sensation is not a contender. Another unknown would be what radios a tmo sgs2 is going to come out with. The international version does not give you full 3G support on the current network but I would not be surprised to see support for the merger in a tmo version and you would of course have the radios you need now as well.
I know this is not maybe what your asking but having the sgs2 and coming from the N1 which I still have I would say that it might not be a bad idea to consider waiting a little bit longer. With the s2 things are faster and the screen is really nice but I am not able to do a single thing that I could not do with the N1. Side by side the performance of the N1 is not bad and and I'm actually impressed with how well it holds up to a generationally newer device. IMO handsets are getting good enough now that getting a new device is becoming more of an incremental upgrade than a means of gaining new capability. I suppose this depends on how patient you are obviously but with the sensation launch happening so soon hanging a little longer might see the bootloader question sorted out and you may also at that point find out what radios a tmo S2 is going to be packing. These things would let you make a better decision.

Great post man. I agree for the most part, now when upgrading phones, in terms of. Hardware anyway, you have a jump in performance but with the applications that are being used for the phone to specs aren't that demanding.
I think that, being on ATT and having a Nexus 1 I'm going to wait for the Galaxy S 2. A larger screen and a little more processing power is all that I need.
Aside from the fact that I'm not on Tmobile, in never going to get a phone with a locked bootloader.
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With the release of HtcDev.com I am sure that they will be unlocking ALL HTC devices.

That they will and it's a good move to make, however it isn't unlocked right now. Also, they might have some stupid requirement giving up the warranty or something.
Regardless, the galaxy S 2 has better specs with a thinner design and better screen. They're both great phones and if I was on Tmobile Id definitely get one.
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Yeah that's true but with regards to the warranty situation HTC has been pretty good honoring their hardware warranty with Unlocked Nexus One's

platinumandroid said:
Yeah that's true but with regards to the warranty situation HTC has been pretty good honoring their hardware warranty with Unlocked Nexus One's
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Oh I know, I have a Nexus 1 myself with an unlocked bootloader. That was a half assed point I jus threw out because of its slim possibility.
I'm just hoping that there aren't going to be any asterisks when they start unlocking them.
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Newbie question

I hope this board is well supported when questions are asked and I really appreciate the replies.
I was thinking of diving into the world of Andriod. I don't have any experience with it but I will say the closest thing I come to installing firmware on a Phone is on my present phone Nokia 5800.
So my question
Is Bravo a good phone to try to root and make better with custom ROM? Person to start out with. My other choice is in phone is either Atrix or Atrix 2 but that is a more expensive phone to mess up. Hopefully I can use it for a year or two before I do a real upgrade.
Suggestions welcome.

I own both the bravo and the original Atrix (4G)
The Atrix v. Atrix2 horse has been bludgeoned to death pretty thorougly around here. I think there is a post presently at the top of the Atrix general forum that has many opinion on the matter.
The atrix is a FAR more heavily modded phone than the bravo. Many more ROMs available and a more active community.
The atrix is also a far nicer phone, spec wise, if not a bit larger.
The bravo is cheaper, smaller and slower. But by no means TOO slow.
If you follow directions, ask questions, double check steps, etc; you should not ruin your phone. I dove into atrix modding knowing relatively little about Android (I came from the world of the ILoveSteveJobs) and have not yet ruined my atrix, which is running one of the recent CM7 nightly builds.
Here is a post from the Atrix forums that is GREAT:
h ttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
It explains a lot of basic principals that apply to a lot of android phones. I referenced that CONSTANTLY when I first started.
If I were you and you could afford the Atrix, that is what I would get. Don't bother with the Atrix 2.

Atrix 2 and other
Thank you for the information.
Was wondering why you say don't bother with Atrix2? But then again Motorola phones don't seem to be known for their cameras that for sure.
That phone along with an LG Optimus 2X or LG Thrill was on my mind as well.
Ultimately I like having a device to do things on is nice like I would use the Netflix App or HuluPlus to watch shows and movies over wifi when I am not near a TV. I hope I would not need to install a Custom firmware every night or week but I do understand updating is important.

IMHO the Atrix2 is not a substantial enough improvement over the Atrix 4G to be worth the extra cost. Same res screen, same speed chip (though, a dif chip maker), same ram. The Atrix 2 has a nicer camera, but less internal storage and no finger print reader

if you're going to go on a new 2 yr contract from att, definitely get the atrix. as said before newest reiteration (atrix 2) is little improvement - spec wise - over OG atrix. Also, you will see an OTA ics update from motorola, as they came out with their update list a few days ago.
That being said, if you would like to get your feet wet with android, bravo is a very good phone. If your questions are not answered here, definitely visit motorola defy forums. Almost identical phone hardware except defy has 5 mp camera. Many, if not all froyo kernel defy roms will work on bravo. I, personally, keep hopping back and forth trying to milk every ounce of goodness from my bravo. Mine's unlocked, and luckily I only paid a penny for it . Although I do think the atrix was offered for the same price too at some point, don't know if it's still there - should be since it's relatively old.

Not with AT&T
I was with AT&T but just switched to StraightTalk with the purchasing a AT&T compatiable Simm card which now is operational in my Nokia 5800. I didn't want to get stuck in another contract. So I an open to any GSM phone preferably with 850/1900 UMTS to get 3G. But I think I could flip to TMobile if I wanted to at the end of my 30 days and get a StraightTalk TMobile Compatiable Simm card. The more I think I about there a few choices of phone for the Simm I have now and it seems to come back to Bravo or Atrix 4G. The Atrix I see for close to $380 and the Atrix 2 is not that much different from where I am looking. I talking New phone here. I looked at Craiglist and seeing Atrix 1 for arond $250 but I dont know what questions to ask about the phone if I went that route like a used car will get someone elses problems?

Replace Atrix 4G with Moto E?

I'm trying to get a better feel if i replaced my ole and trusty Atrix 4G with a Moto E. I don't really care about photos, i don't really play games on a mobile phone but my cousisns do, and i give them my Atrix to play, but i'm trying to see if i can get a better battery life. I use my work phone mostly for calls and 3G browsing/VPN, and at mid day i need to start looking for a charger. Would it be such a huge difference to switch from the Tegra 2 (A9 cores) to a Snapdragon 200 (A7 cores) in terms of performance and battery duration? If possible, i wouldn't like to get a decrease in performance (the Atrix is still better than most low- and mid-range phones out there, for shame) especially for gaming, but if i do, i would like it to be the least noticeable drop possible.

Buy a couple of extended batteries for your Atrix. I don't know about the moto E performance, with the specs, I would stick with my Atrix.
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I have Moto G (after Atrix 4G) and it's ok, nice hardware and Lollipop.

i need a phone replacement for my atrix 4g too. this is may second atrix sinced my digitizer failed and gave the first one to my younger sister. after a year this atrix had the same problem again i still had my lapdock on my 2012 phone, so im torn whether to get a moto g or bionic which is cheaper theses days so i could still use my lapdock. but i also need at least ics on my next phone. so til now i haven't decided yet :silly:

gradd said:
i need a phone replacement for my atrix 4g too. this is may second atrix sinced my digitizer failed and gave the first one to my younger sister. after a year this atrix had the same problem again i still had my lapdock on my 2012 phone, so im torn whether to get a moto g or bionic which is cheaper theses days so i could still use my lapdock. but i also need at least ics on my next phone. so til now i haven't decided yet :silly:
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If you wanna contiune with motorola like me,update 4g to moto g.Its good phone except no micro sd card support but usb otg working,you can connect keyboard and mouse too