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i have had my trusty G1 since the first batch was sent out. rooted unrooted, flashed reflashed more times than i can count. i love the G1 and my friends with the droid and such hate me for it, since we usually have what they have before they even get it, lol.
anyway, we all know our G1's are aging and most of us, including myself are probably itching to upgrade to something better. so my question is what would you guys recommend i upgrade to or wait for?
keep in mind i 100% want a hard keyboard as well built in. preferably full qwerty, but open to suggestions that dont have the above.
post away everyone. thanks ahead of time for all your input.
JUSTIN
I just switched carriers and picked up the Motorola Droid. I have to say, I'm quite impressed.
The myTouch Slide appears to be the only thing that matches your requirements on T-Mobile. Of course so does the DROID2 on Verizon Wireless.
I'd wait a bit, and pick up a used myTouch slide. Save your upgrade for when something good with a hardware QWERTY comes out.
yea i was looking at the MyTouch slide, but i dont really like the layout of the hard keyboard, it looks weird. maybe i need to try using it more to get used to it.
i dont mind paying full price for something outside tmo if the phone can be unlocked and used on tmo.
anyone know of any phones that use sim and can be used on tmo, but from other carriers.
i also looked at the droid. i love the screen size, but its close to being old already, lol. with all these new android driven phones out and coming out. whats a man to do? lol
You are still under contract with T-Mobile. If you wait until the end of the year, when your contract runs out (was it around October that the G1 was released?), there should be even more options out there. I'm particularly interested in the Samsung Galaxy S Pro, which supposedly is coming from Sprint, will be like the Galaxy S, but with a slide out keyboard. The Super AMOLED screen looks to be amazing and consume less energy than a LED.
In the meanwhile, continue enjoying the mod ROMs, they have really breathed new life into my old, cracked G1
yea im still on contract with tmo. i'll have to look into the Galaxy one you speak of. i have yet to look at it.
The wife's iphone 3g finally is taking a dive. Like to put her into an entry level android based phone that will work on At&t. What phones will work on the at&t network?
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...2&allFeatures=on&allManus=on#fbid=WbfKe3rhII7
How about the motorola atrix.
Dual core and all the works..
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Are you sure you want an entry level Android phone for her? AT&T doesn't have a particularly good selection of low-end Android devices, and of those available they would hardly compare for a person coming from an iPhone. The HTC Aria is just ridiculously underpowered, and all Motorola devices that I've used with Motoblur have been terrible.
I suggest the Samsung Captivate or the HTC Inspire. They're easy to use and you can pretty much guarantee she won't have anything to complain about in terms of speed and responsiveness.
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Are you sure you want an entry level Android phone for her? AT&T doesn't have a particularly good selection of low-end Android devices, and of those available they would hardly compare for a person coming from an iPhone. The HTC Aria is just ridiculously underpowered, and all Motorola devices that I've used with Motoblur have been terrible.
I suggest the Samsung Captivate or the HTC Inspire. They're easy to use and you can pretty much guarantee she won't have anything to complain about in terms of speed and responsiveness.
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I would recommend you stay away from the Captivate, it has a few hardware issues that Samsung is not addressing. I am on my sixth Captivate, and all have had issues, and have recently switched to a Nexus One that was given to me. I looked at the HTC Inspire yesterday, it is a pretty nice device. The Motorola Atrix also looks very promising.
If you're not aware, the Vibrant's radio, although a TMo phone, do work on AT&T 3G bands.
Just be careful if she's interested in any of Google's location-based services. I had (have, sitting on my desk now) a Vibrant for awhile and could never resolve the notorious GPS issue. I came back to the Nexus One because of it.
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How about the motorola atrix.
Dual core and all the works..
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Are these the works?
locked bootloader
bloatware
expensive
motoblur
apparently shipping with Froyo
Froyo (and currently Gingerbread) does not even support dual cores, lol
Engadget says the docking experience is very poor
once Gingerbread supports dual core (maybe April?), Motorola has to push the update out.. my guess is this won't be timely.
For these reasons, there are going to be a LOT of pissed off people who cough up the money for this phone because its "dual core"
I made a post earlier about the atrix . Wasn't aware dual core isn't supported yet on froyo . I'm trying desperately to avoid another iphone (cough) but cannot buy anything through att with the fear of having my account screwed with and losing the unlimited data plans. Have to buy out of pocket and $500 is a bit high for a casual android user. Maybe a used N1 is the way to go.
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I made a post earlier about the atrix . Wasn't aware dual core isn't supported yet on froyo . I'm trying desperately to avoid another iphone (cough) but cannot buy anything through att with the fear of having my account screwed with and losing the unlimited data plans. Have to buy out of pocket and $500 is a bit high for a casual android user. Maybe a used N1 is the way to go.
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I switched my wife's line from iPhone 3GS (unlimited data) to iPhone 4 to Windows Phone 7 and now to Android (N1) and still have the unlimited data (yes, I spoil her and she knows it ). If you previously had unlimited data you'll be grandfathered in and keep your unlimited data plan, unless you ask for a different tier for whatever reason. That's how it was explained to me, and I've switched her line a few times, and I just went from my N1 to an Inspire and still have the unlimited data plan from when I had my iPhone 3G a couple years ago.
With that being said, as I mentioned I just got the Inspire. I'm giving it a week to check it out and see if I like it. I love my N1, and it'll be hard to part with it as my main phone, but it'll stay nearby "just in case"! The Inspire seems pretty nice so far, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
I just set up the HTC Inspire 4G for a friend and it is a pretty good experience. Has a little ATT garbage on it that cannot be deleted (you can hide the icons) and also HTC Sense. Actually Sense is not too bad. It is a great price at $99 and just came out last Sunday.
PHIL
I know it is older and not supported by ATT or SE anymore but the Sony Ericsson X10 has been nothing but good to me. The guys over at X10 section here in XDA have some good things going on as far as development goes. 1ghz snapdragon, 8 mp camera, 720p video with flash, 4 inch screen.
I ran it for a while until I gave it to my wife when I got my N1. They are finishing up the 2.3 build and it is all being done with out even cracking the bootloader.
I've got a mint condition att n1 for sale in the marketplace. I highly recommend it!
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crachel said:
Are these the works?
locked bootloader
bloatware
expensive
motoblur
apparently shipping with Froyo
Froyo (and currently Gingerbread) does not even support dual cores, lol
Engadget says the docking experience is very poor
once Gingerbread supports dual core (maybe April?), Motorola has to push the update out.. my guess is this won't be timely.
For these reasons, there are going to be a LOT of pissed off people who cough up the money for this phone because its "dual core"
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check out this thread...they are saying that dual core support is there, just not for single threaded apps. So really we are waiting on developers to support multiple cores in their apps, but the os already does.
I'd say htc inspire is a good one to pick. Price of a midrange but runs like a high end. Plus htc sense is pretty useful for women in my opinion. And if you wanna change to a different rom later on, it won't be hard cuz htc is fine with customizations.
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Get an HTC Inspire. It rocks I got it on launch day and previously had a Nexus One
For the price you simply can't beat the Inspire 4G, got mine at Costco for 79.99...
I replaced my N1 with this phone and I love it..
HTC Inspire 4G the best choice
I would hang tough a few weeks and see what happens with the atrix. Depending on whether they get root and so on that would probably be the handset to have as it will probably have the longest legs of the bunch depending on how quickly multi core support arrives.
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check out this thread...they are saying that dual core support is there, just not for single threaded apps. So really we are waiting on developers to support multiple cores in their apps, but the os already does.
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agree.. which raises the next point that the apps to take advantage will be games, as the computational requirements for a general purpose cell phone app tends to be minimal, the bottlenecks mostly lying in the cellular connection speeds. for instance, LevelUp can add dual core support all they want, but checking Twitter with Plume just isn't all that needy, hardware wise.
from a specs standpoint, the Atrix is interesting but is basically an expensive, closed gimmick.
dual-core is an important step to push the platform & apps but we are a LONG way from a practical benefit to end users (unless you play games)
I think the main hardware aspect of the atrix that would make me lean to it is the front facing camera. If that phone can be rooted it may be my next device.
So here's the deal:
I'm on AT&T, been using an Aria with CM 7 RC for awhile now. I had the Atrix 4g, but after some issues with data connection and figuring "better safe than sorry" when it came to the bootloader situation, I decided it just wasn't meant to be. Now I'm wanting something a little more after the atrix vs my Aria, but I'm still on AT&T for now (family plan), and am hesitant to extend my contract (Inspire is too big anyway)
So my question to you, users of the original Google phone: is it still worth it?
I figure I can buy a nexus one on ebay for ~$400 for AT&T's bands, and sell it again (or keep it because it's so cool) when its time for a new contract. Is it worth getting the N1 at this point or is it getting too heavily outclassed, even with development and the latest software, or is it still kicking strong and will last me until at least some quad-core LTE super nexus 3 comes out?
Thanks for hearing my rant and for letting me know!
Its lasted us this long so no reason why you wont still enjoy it too...
Keep an eye on the Marketplace forum here. You'll get a good N1 for less than $400.
They are still worth buying if you can get a bargain.
As the seasons change and I'm outside more and the sky is often brighter. The fact that the N1 screen isalmost impossible to see outside is really annoying. Unless you never go outside I'd say stay away from the N1.
Also, the touch screen is awful. Every game must have their touch controls in odd places for them to actually work on the N1. Really makes it feel like a crappy device.
I really do like my N1, but these things were reasons I probably should have returned it over a year ago. No way I'd recommend someone get it now.
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At $400, I wouldn't. Quick craigslist search shows several around the country at $200-$250. For that price I would, and if any were in my own backyard, I would probably grab a second one.
Yes its a nice phone. No I would not spend 400 for it now. Aria is a nice phone. Inspire is best deal at this moment. I don't see why u pick up a N1. U get custom roms on aria. If you want new device get a tablet. HTC flyer is on its way or Samsung tab will be out soon.
But don't get me wrong. I love my N1. It's just that their is nothing that interest me at this time. Maybe gte t-mobile g2x. It will be compatible with ATT and its dual core. The best part vanilla android. I wait though and see how it reviews.
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First, I LOVE my N1. I run the CM7 nightlies on it, I use Titanium Backup to yank core sys apps from the nightlies that I don't care about. I've got 155 apps on it (thanks to Apps2SD) and SetCPU is running the clock at just a little over stock speed.
And I get to do all that with hardly the hassle others complain of with their non-N1 phones.
The N1 will continue to hold the hearts of Devs for as long as there's nothing with better specs that's as open and easy to work with.
Yes, get an N1, but you can do better than $400 (unless that's including a car or desk dock). If/When Google comes out with a 'real' successor (sorry, a rebadged Galaxy-S isn't a true successor) just sell off the N1 and upgrade.
The N1 is no longer top in class. If you want a pure android feeling, the N1 I'd recommend. But if you want better, then I'm guessing go for the Nexus S... does the Ns have an Att version?
The best thing about N1 is that the OS is android, not some mesh of other bloatware and junk provided by the manufacture HTC, Motorola, and the service provider ATT, Verizon... Of course, you can root, and put on a custom rom, and that's all resolved anyway.
Just my opinion.
I'm going to have to go with yes.
If I lost or broke my N1 today, I would, without hesitation, start the hunt to buy a new one. Unfortunately I'm on AT&T so finding an AT&T 3G N1 isn't as simple as buying it from the Google Developer site, but I would probably snag one off feeBay.
I'd have to go with no...unless you can get it for 200-250. While it is a nice phone and holds well against these beasts nowadays I can't justify a purchase due to the lack of internal memory and the horrid "multi-touch" panel. I too am waiting for a true nexus successor (Nexus S? yea okay.) and hopefully I won't have to wait long but there are nice phones on AT&T running android so im sure the inspire would be a better pick...or hold out for a few more months for whatever monsters are announced following Google I/O
i still love my nexus one to death, and still cannot find anything on the market now that i consider better than the nexus one simply because of the whole package, color trackball, design and build quality and materials, etc. so i say you should go for the nexus one.
No. It's an awesome phone, but as others have said, it's not worth $400 a year after it's out.
I just bought one on Craigslist for 240
Good phone
I still consider a good phone at this moment and with a good price.
Just sold mine for $350 on Craigslist.
Figured that, since T-mobiles 1700 3g radio frequency is eventually going to be changed to Att LTE and the T-mobile Nexus One completely wont work once that happens, that every day I keep it is another day that the value will go down. Thought I better get out now and lock in my profit before others figure this out and start to flood Craigslist with cheaper prices.
hate. Hate. HATE to give up my $30 EvenMorePlus and $10 web2go but I'm not going to stay aboard a sinking ship and there are other options still out there for my price range of $40/month or less for a smartphone. I simply REFUSE to pay $60 - 70 per month purely on principle
I have loved my N1 since launch day and love my T-Mobile service.
But am looking to upgrade to a dual-core phone with much more application space available and a better screen, performance, battery life, etc...
Is anyone in the same position as me and looking between these phones?
Also, do you all know if the "4G" bands for the Sensation will work for the LTE network of ATT should the merger go through?
Thanks for all your input!!
It would be nice if you knew whether HTC was going to retro the unlock to the sensation. Without this to me the sensation is not a contender. Another unknown would be what radios a tmo sgs2 is going to come out with. The international version does not give you full 3G support on the current network but I would not be surprised to see support for the merger in a tmo version and you would of course have the radios you need now as well.
I know this is not maybe what your asking but having the sgs2 and coming from the N1 which I still have I would say that it might not be a bad idea to consider waiting a little bit longer. With the s2 things are faster and the screen is really nice but I am not able to do a single thing that I could not do with the N1. Side by side the performance of the N1 is not bad and and I'm actually impressed with how well it holds up to a generationally newer device. IMO handsets are getting good enough now that getting a new device is becoming more of an incremental upgrade than a means of gaining new capability. I suppose this depends on how patient you are obviously but with the sensation launch happening so soon hanging a little longer might see the bootloader question sorted out and you may also at that point find out what radios a tmo S2 is going to be packing. These things would let you make a better decision.
Great post man. I agree for the most part, now when upgrading phones, in terms of. Hardware anyway, you have a jump in performance but with the applications that are being used for the phone to specs aren't that demanding.
I think that, being on ATT and having a Nexus 1 I'm going to wait for the Galaxy S 2. A larger screen and a little more processing power is all that I need.
Aside from the fact that I'm not on Tmobile, in never going to get a phone with a locked bootloader.
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With the release of HtcDev.com I am sure that they will be unlocking ALL HTC devices.
That they will and it's a good move to make, however it isn't unlocked right now. Also, they might have some stupid requirement giving up the warranty or something.
Regardless, the galaxy S 2 has better specs with a thinner design and better screen. They're both great phones and if I was on Tmobile Id definitely get one.
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Yeah that's true but with regards to the warranty situation HTC has been pretty good honoring their hardware warranty with Unlocked Nexus One's
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Yeah that's true but with regards to the warranty situation HTC has been pretty good honoring their hardware warranty with Unlocked Nexus One's
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Oh I know, I have a Nexus 1 myself with an unlocked bootloader. That was a half assed point I jus threw out because of its slim possibility.
I'm just hoping that there aren't going to be any asterisks when they start unlocking them.
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I'm thinking of getting the HTC One S when tmobile starts to sell it this month. It looks like a great phone and has all the features I want. Was wondering if anyone else is thinking of getting it.
Its nothing compared to the one s though. Better of waiting for the s3 since you'll be using it for two years.
There's nothing wrong with my vib oozing iced butter and bacon right now.I recommend waiting 4 more months and get the G3 or if tmo could get the htc one X that would be a consideration
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There's nothing wrong with my vib oozing iced butter and bacon right now.I recommend waiting 4 more months and get the G3 or if tmo could get the htc one X that would be a consideration
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I beleive that the X is going to at&t while tmobile gets the S...either way im getting one
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i'll probably get one. benchmarks show the S4 dualcore outdoes the T3 quadcore chip. no need to wait around for a One X. By that time, the SGS3 should be out.
I'm actually still waiting for a device for tmobile with a true hd display.. similar to that of the current galaxy nexus. From what I understand the oneX has one but I'm not aware of any plans for it coming over to tmobile. Also personally, I'm not a fan of how the camera protrudes out the back of many htc phones.
Even though I'm quite satisfied with my vibrant running ics passion (occasional gps issues aside).. I've started to notice the lack of power while browsing and the occasional lags more and more. I used my friends galaxyS2 (att) the other day and was blown away at the speed and was left wanting more out of my phone.
I get a sense that tmobile is really dragging their heels in getting better devices. If I didn't have a serious dislike of being on mobile contracts I probably would have jumped ship already. I can live without true 4g.. fake 4g (hspa+) seems plenty fast to me... even my 3g vibrant is probably good enough for what I use the phone for.
I don't know.. just babbling...
and hoping tmobile steps up their game and offers some nicer devices.
All I want is a phone with a 4.7 HD screen, removable batt and micro sd, seems to be hard to find...nothing around the corner, still on the vibrant, nothing in sight so far...Sprint's EVO One (ONE X sprint style) looks great, but it's sprint and their data speeds are crap and no one has them so you use up anytime minutes quick...
There's a few phones I keep seeing, like LG and couple of others, but for some reason the US can't get **** for phones, like the rest of the world does, or if they do it's on att or verizon, and no, I don't want to pay 150/month for my cell phone..
I want a phone with about a 4.3" screen, flash on the camera, removable battery, and Micro SD. Preferably with that new S4 snapdragon... that things appears to be a beast. But I'm looking for a phone that devs are going to get behind. After having been in the Vibrant community, it'd be really hard to live with a phone that didn't have good dev support. I would honestly be really happy with my wife's HTC Amaze 4g if the dev support was more like the Vibrant. That phone is a beast and I can only imagine how smooth it would run with a good rom like CM9 on it. (but it's my wife's so it's staying stock LOL)
The non-removable battery and no Micro SD is a deal breaker for me. I'm also surprised to see only 16Gb of internal storage in any new phone, especially this one.
I need a phone that blows my socks off the same way my Vibrant did after it was rooted and customized. If there are any regrets I'll be seriously disappointed.
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I just want a phone whose GPS works reliably and a good DAC. I mainly use my phone for those two things. I was hoping HTC would've nailed a good DAC (as I'm aware that HTC has the best GPS rigs), but it just wasn't meant to be.
I am going to wait for a better phone. The One S just doesn't do it for me. Sure its probably better than the vibrant but if I'm going to extend my contract, which has been up for about 8 months, I'm going to need a phone that I will be happy with for the next two years. When the next generation of phones which are almost here are offering far superior specs and capabilities, it makes no sense to upgrade to a mildly better phone. T-Mobile should see that and not insult us with "little brother" phones. If I'm paying for it, plus two years on contract, I want my moneys worth. I'm a big boy and I like big boy toys.
I would have loved to get the One S, but would never consider buying a phone with only 16GB and no microSD. I can't tell you how much I want to avoid buying anything from Samsung ever again due to anger over the Vibrant GPS problems and lack of update and other support.