Rooted on 4.1.57 even after update??!! - Atrix 4G General

Ok so i managed to undo my hacked webtop, but i never unrooted my phone before updating to 4.1.57. Now my phone is updated and it says its on 4.1.57 but it still has super user and that still functions? Does this mean it is still rooted? I thought it was supposed to be removed? I am sort of confused whether this is good or bad? Any input? Thanks

Try to run something that requests for su permission... it wont work....
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same here but i didnt have the webtop hack just aroot and tether bypass and i still have all of what i had before super user and t-back up and my bypass for tethering....looks like i am still rooted can get into all files and what not

i did use some root required apps like root manager and they all work?

unnkown95 said:
i did use some root required apps like root manager and they all work?
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Can you go to adb or terminal and do "su"? It probably won't work.
A lot of other people were misinformed as well. The old apps are there but don't have root permissions. The Dev section has a dead simple script to run to root it though. You need to undo all mods or flash to stock and then follow their instructions.
I reversed my mods in a few minutes (redexed and reversed WTM) then I upgraded, rooted and deodexed and did the WTM again

oh ok, im not sure how to do that im very new to all this but i will take your word for it, can you help me on how to undo all the mods? Should i just unroot it? How do i redex and reverse wtm and what is wtm im so sorry for my questions .

unnkown95 said:
oh ok, im not sure how to do that im very new to all this but i will take your word for it, can you help me on how to undo all the mods? Should i just unroot it? How do i redex and reverse wtm and what is wtm im so sorry for my questions .
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WTM = Webtopmod.
I'm not an expert but I'm well versed with command lines and basic programming. Your best bet is to flash everything to stock rather than reversing the mods manually. This will give you a fresh slate to work with.
I presume that you have an AT&T Atrix so here's the link to the thread you need. It has all the appropriate info and I suggest you post any further questions in there. I always try hitting threads and helping everyone out where I can. If I can't get to your next inquiry, I'm sure someone else can help.
I don't go out much but the wife and I are going to a concert.. so next time I'm XDA tonight I'm going to be pissed drunk and probably lipping people off.
(don't drink and post!)

Thanks so much, but last question for some reason the link wont show up?

Try running titanium backup. If that starts then you sir, still have root access
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yep bongd was right the original apps i had still work but no new ones work,
so what do you guys suggest that i wipe my atrix and reinstall everything? is there anyway to back up with out root access?

the dead-on telltale test:
download Terminal Emulator from the market, open it, and type "su". if you get a #, then you have root.

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Hi all I'm new

Need help to root my evo4g so I can use roms ect.... plz help
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Go Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245 read, learn, execute.
Helpful Threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
First, read all of the threads above.
Then, after you find out what your firmware version is, read the threads below.
Also, make sure you use the search button, it's your friend. Welcome to XDA
1.47.651.1 ROOT method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Original Firmware ROOT method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004
Well since this is here, I'd like to throw in a question about root.
Does a simple root allow the user to uninstall applications?
Here's another one.
Does the latest OTA root method require a previous root.
Plancy said:
Well since this is here, I'd like to throw in a question about root.
Does a simple root allow the user to uninstall applications?
Here's another one.
Does the latest OTA root method require a previous root.
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Nice thread hijack...
A. If you're referring to unrEVOked(2) and the preinstalled sprint apps, then no, i don't think it does. Sprint apps are not in "user-land" and i believe require NAND unlock (full root) to uninstall.
B. No, you can do this with a stock phone with the OTA update installed.
I am new as well, I think this is my first post. I waited to get the White Evo and got an RSS Feed that people were getting them early.........then Best Buy called me so I will have my phone today, already have a folder at home called Android and bookmarks to certain things on here lol
Globetrahter said:
I am new as well, I think this is my first post. I waited to get the White Evo and got an RSS Feed that people were getting them early.........then Best Buy called me so I will have my phone today, already have a folder at home called Android and bookmarks to certain things on here lol
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Welcome new peeps just make sure you read thoroughly before doing anything to your phone make sure you fully understand all steps involved and everything will work out fine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
Chopper64 said:
Nice thread hijack...
A. If you're referring to unrEVOked(2) and the preinstalled sprint apps, then no, i don't think it does. Sprint apps are not in "user-land" and i believe require NAND unlock (full root) to uninstall.
B. No, you can do this with a stock phone with the OTA update installed.
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The answers could help the OP.
A. That blows.
B. Cool!
Sprint must be finally getting more phones in... noticed a good bit of newcomers lol
brownhornet said:
Sprint must be finally getting more phones in... noticed a good bit of newcomers lol
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Damnit, exclusivity is going out the window!! I'm gonna return my phone now.
D Sorry trying to come up with any negatives for my new Lovely Evoline...)
Thanks for the Link

[Q] .apk downloads on non rooted SF

I am a noob to this phone, but not a noob at rooting things. My question is I go through these forums and see .apk things that are awesome. I will not install if it requires root, but can I screw things up by installing an .apk that needs root on a non rooted phone. I understand it won't work, but will I mess my phone up.
I ask these questions because back in the ol day with the G1 rooting was pretty new thing (easier), but with all these android running phones and more work to root the last thing I want to do is screw my phone up installing some of these .apks.
I appreciate all your help. If this has been covered before please guide me to a link.
no they will do nothing
If y are not a noob at "rooting things" how can u not know that it wont do anything. Its just an app like any other. It just wont function without root access. Don't be afraid to ask if u are a complete noob, we have ALL been there.
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Haha.. Thanks boys for the reply. As for the noobieness, yeah you could say that, but when I started rooting my G1 things weren't this far advanced. I haven't ventured into rooting this cause I am scared and I will think it about it more once (if ever we get Froyo.)
Thanks again.
Well glad that's outta the way. This phone has files to recover it fully and nothing short of flashing something in the "phone" portion of Odin cab actually brick this phone and that can now be fixed sans SMS messages. Either way, read up, dive in, enjoy.
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How the root exploit (rageagainstthecage.bin) works

I was curious about how the root exploit that unlocks our phones for all this great dev stuff works. Found this explanation, and it was quite good. For those with sufficient unix/linux knowlege, this will be totally understandable, so I'd recommend following the link, and reading the in-depth explanation, complete with C code. For those with less background in this stuff, it's still worth a read, but you'll have to work harder to understand exactly what's going on.
Post any questions in this thread, and I'll be happy to answer them!
This is a good explanation, I read something similar when rage was released, may hve even been this. But I'm pretty versed with linux and am overly versed in C...to the point where I have nightmares....
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Hi and sorry for the bump guys,
Does anybody know how to do the rageagainstthecage root with an LG Optimus One P503? I have tried everything - Simple Root, SuperOneClick, VISIONary, z4root, nothing is working! I really need this root because my phone did not come with Android market and I want to install it through ADB, and I think that requires a root correct? Even if I can't root my phone, is there any way to install an apk to my phone's internal storage and not my SD card?
Thanks for reading this!
By rooting lol
I know for the opimus s you have to force a flash of an older software for z4 to root.
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no you dont need to root to install thru adb. just open up command/terminal,
adb install /blah/blah/phoneapphere.apk
alternatively you can put it on your sd card and use a file manager to locate the apk and install it on the phone.. for a nice easy root, use gingerbreak its the latest un patched exploit.. theres an apk version on xda it will root your phone no issues
HTC Merge Root?
shabbypenguin said:
no you dont need to root to install thru adb. just open up command/terminal,
adb install /blah/blah/phoneapphere.apk
alternatively you can put it on your sd card and use a file manager to locate the apk and install it on the phone.. for a nice easy root, use gingerbreak its the latest un patched exploit.. theres an apk version on xda it will root your phone no issues
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Can I use this on the kinda new HTC Merge? (I get it next weekend).
Spec: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Merge_id4909
What would be the best way to root this phone?
[HTC Sense, 2.2 Froyo, CDMA/GSM, Qwerty kb - it's main backbone i guess.]
Thanks in advance
dillalade said:
Can I use this on the kinda new HTC Merge? (I get it next weekend).
Spec: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Merge_id4909
What would be the best way to root this phone?
[HTC Sense, 2.2 Froyo, CDMA/GSM, Qwerty kb - it's main backbone i guess.]
Thanks in advance
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you do realize that this is the Epic 4G section, right ?
daddymikey1975 said:
you do realize that this is the Epic 4G section, right ?
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Yes but thats why hes asking if it can be used for the other phone. Specs wise, both phones are almost the same internally.
xPreSiDenT said:
Yes but thats why hes asking if it can be used for the other phone. Specs wise, both phones are almost the same internally.
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specs don't really dictate which exploit will work on a device though.
If the bootloader is locked on the HTC, there's going to be a different workaround to root it.
just sayin'

[Q] No-loss root found, testers needed

Followup to this msg: We have enough volunteers. I just need to work thru some issues with jcase before we start testing. Please be patient.
Good news everyone...
About 8 days ago I rooted my TB -without-losing-ANYTHING-.
I'd like to get a few volunteers to try the procedure before I make it public...
Anyone with an UN-rooted phone who's willing to be a guinea pig, please PM me. Ideal volunteers would be moderately tech-savvy and not have anything on their phone that would be catastrophic if it were lost.
You'd also be a good candidate to help getting this procedure worked out if you just want to root your phone and don't care if you lose anything...
If you're wondering why I don't just post it, I had several false starts (kept getting interrupted because I didn't allow enough time) and then didn't take detailed notes on the final run where I managed to finish it. I want the instructions to be fairly solid before I throw anyone with critical phone data into the procedure.
I hope you understand and will be patient while I get this properly documented...
We already have root?
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superchilpil said:
We already have root?
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The current root removes all of your data, he's saying he found a way to do it and not lose any data.
superchilpil said:
We already have root?
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Yes....but he's looking for testers who possibly won't lose any data, apps, etc., by going to root from stock.
We have root, but any process, automated or manual...will put the phone back to 100% stock and remove any and all user info.
superchilpil said:
We already have root?
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We have root but the current method wipes the data. He has found a way to root without losing data. That's the way I took it.
Edit: both of you beat me to it lol
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No offense to the OP but once you flash another rom you WILL have to wipe...
Now if its a one click type of root then that's a breakthrough
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I see the value in this. Some people may just wanna root their TB but not want to install custom ROM. Or they may want to root to see what they can do with a rooted phone.
Thanks for your work but too bad I've already rooted mine.
I'm willing to try it
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Ill try it our for you. Ill unroot when I get home and give your method a shot. Let me know
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superchilpil said:
No offense to the OP but once you flash another rom you WILL have to wipe...
Now if its a one click type of root then that's a breakthrough
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Not a one-click (I wish...).
If this works for the volunteers, the part in your msg about "... WILL have to wipe." may be obsolete info...
Followup volunteering msgs sent to lgldrgdlr and rjackson23 (who should have PM'ed me...)
I think we have enough volunteers at this time. Thanks.
I'm working with jcase (who may have a missing piece of the puzzle for a no-loss variant that would take MUCH less time to run). I'll keep you informed as this progresses...
wmserver said:
I see the value in this. Some people may just wanna root their TB but not want to install custom ROM. Or they may want to root to see what they can do with a rooted phone.
Thanks for your work but too bad I've already rooted mine.
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I'm in that boat.. I want root, but not really interested in other ROMs at this time. I went down that road wit hmy X and my Xoom, and its a pain, especially wit hthe Xoom and the move from 3.01 to 3.1 and now 3.2.
I guess one main question is if you root the TB, does it hack the hotspot as well, or would i still need to go get Wireless Tether?
jwb
This would be extremely useful...don't listen to the naysayers.
For those of us who waited to root a week, two, or even a month or two after getting the phone, there was no way to make a solid backup of apps, settings, etc. since most of the better methods require root. So many things had to be wiped clean completely. With a no-wipe root, whether you move onto ROMs or not, you have the opportunity to take a nandroid, use Titanium Backup, etc.
I can't donate my time or phone since I'm busy at work and need a strong daily driver, but I wish you luck.
I just rooted my phone yesterday. I would have liked to try it out and be part of the breathrough.
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Jolest said:
Not a one-click (I wish...).
If this works for the volunteers, the part in your msg about "... WILL have to wipe." may be obsolete info...
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great work man Im not trying to bash you
Is it any easyer than our original method? I know alot of people have problems with it because adb is so "scary"
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superchilpil said:
great work man Im not trying to bash you
Is it any easyer than our original method? I know alot of people have problems with it because adb is so "scary"
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Sorry... Unfortunately, it's not any easier. It's an add-on to jcase's root method so it still uses adb. It actually takes about 3 times as much time as his, but most of that time is waiting for backup and restore operations to complete.
Very glad to hear development is still ongoing for root! I like this! I hope it works out well. I'd volunteer but I'm past that point. I ran my dInc stock rooted for a pretty long time before trying a custom ROM. This makes a lot of sense to me.
I'll be watching this. My wife won't let me root her TB because she doesn't want to redo her settings.
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I advise against using this backup method, taking a DD of /data while its r/w can lead to corruption.
A better idea would be to push su (aka a temp root) into your path and use something like titanium backup to backup you data.

[Q] Total Noob Question about the Droid Razr M and Rooting

Ok y'all I'm just going to come out and preface this by saying that I'm a noob when it comes to rooting phones and don't quite understand it. What is rooting exactly? What are the benefits to rooting? Does it void the phone's warranty? And what is the best method for rooting the Droid RAZR M running 4.1.1 Jelly Bean? Is there any way to "un-root" a phone once it's rooted?
Gunner out!
There was is an old website. Ummmm what's it called ummm how you say ummmmmm ..... oh yeah Google.
Rooting makes the phone more fun to play with. Yes it voids the warranty. Yes you can unroot.
Hit up Google. They supposed to be some sort of informational website or something.
And don't take my sarcasm wrong dude. Im just messing with ya. If you decide to root this thing and you need help ima hook you up. I knew squat about android when I found this place and I was led by the hand for a bit. I don't mind giving back!
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whodisname said:
There was is an old website. Ummmm what's it called ummm how you say ummmmmm ..... oh yeah Google.
Rooting makes the phone more fun to play with. Yes it voids the warranty. Yes you can unroot.
Hit up Google. They supposed to be some sort of informational website or something.
And don't take my sarcasm wrong dude. Im just messing with ya. If you decide to root this thing and you need help ima hook you up. I knew squat about android when I found this place and I was led by the hand for a bit. I don't mind giving back!
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I'm all ears
I have always used root, as a preface to installing custom recovery and a custom rom. I don't know how new you are so please don't be offended when I say custom recovery and roms give you more options and more freedom to make your phone yours. I also root to remove system apps that aren't used commonly called bloatware that come preinstalled on your device and without root you can not uninstall these. There are apps on the market that require root to gain use or full use like setCPU, root explorer and titanium backup there are others as well. I hope this little bit of information helps you make your decision!
Here's a link to the guide on how to root your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940630
Its really easy. Just download the moto droid razr drivers and install them on your PC. Follow the directions on the screen. Just a couple button presses and presto. The program will let you know that it has successfully gained root. Use root checker from Google play to verify proper root. Should you run into root access issues. Here is a zip that will fix that.
Delete the original su file and superuser apk from the motofail2go folder and replace them with the files located in the root zip and paste them in the motofail2go folder. Rerun the program and it should work then. Good luck.

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