[Q] .apk downloads on non rooted SF - Fascinate General

I am a noob to this phone, but not a noob at rooting things. My question is I go through these forums and see .apk things that are awesome. I will not install if it requires root, but can I screw things up by installing an .apk that needs root on a non rooted phone. I understand it won't work, but will I mess my phone up.
I ask these questions because back in the ol day with the G1 rooting was pretty new thing (easier), but with all these android running phones and more work to root the last thing I want to do is screw my phone up installing some of these .apks.
I appreciate all your help. If this has been covered before please guide me to a link.

no they will do nothing

If y are not a noob at "rooting things" how can u not know that it wont do anything. Its just an app like any other. It just wont function without root access. Don't be afraid to ask if u are a complete noob, we have ALL been there.
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Haha.. Thanks boys for the reply. As for the noobieness, yeah you could say that, but when I started rooting my G1 things weren't this far advanced. I haven't ventured into rooting this cause I am scared and I will think it about it more once (if ever we get Froyo.)
Thanks again.

Well glad that's outta the way. This phone has files to recover it fully and nothing short of flashing something in the "phone" portion of Odin cab actually brick this phone and that can now be fixed sans SMS messages. Either way, read up, dive in, enjoy.
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Rooting help please

hey guys i am pretty sure i am smart enough to root my phone, im just curious about what all i can do by just simply rooting. I am more than content with the stock rom so im not really thinking bout flashing a custom one.
I've had 3 android phones but never successfully rooted any of them lol. so i just pretty much gave up. From what i can see the process of rooting the vibrant seems fairly simple. Once i have rooted the phone how would i go about uninstalling bloatware? What else can i do besides tethering? I guess what im needing help with is what to do once i have rooted. Im sorry for being a noob lol i've read a lot of different threads on rooting but im still really confused about what to do once you have rooted. Any help would be greatly appreciated and sorry again for bein nooby. Have a great day ya'll
(sorry for typos and grammatical errors im posting from my phone)
rooting on this phone is literally a 2 minute process. I just got the phone yesterday (first droid device ever, jumped ship from symbian) and I rooted it right away. I made a stock backup with ROM manager first, and then purchased rootexplorer to clear the bloat off. Most advanced functionality requires a rooted phone...I would definitely recommend doing it
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Awesome I will definitely give it a try. If anyone has any advice or pointers please let me know. Thanks
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Just saw the tips and tricks thread didnt realize it would cover rooting and things to do lol
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Problems with the root!

Hi, my phone now is working and all ( the is it bricked post) Thanks guys
Here is the new problem...I would like to go to 2.2.1 ( the passimg.zip is 2.2) is there a way to update without unlocking bootloader.
I tried Androot and superoneclick....Androot gives me the Fugu message and SuperOneClick says its Rooted...but when I go to rom manager or other apps that need superuser...
I get this message : An error occured while attemting to run privileged commands!
So basically Root isn't working.
Also, when trying to install Cyan cm6...Rom manager reboots...but I get the Triangle with the exclamation point with the green man next to it...
Is it still possible to have my cake and eat it? ( locked phone, with root access so I can install modded roms)
Again...can someone help me with this
Thanks!
You didn't have to make a duplicate post. I already answered one of your questions in the other thread.
Dont make another post next time...
I rooted FRG83D with superoneclick root, But if its not working for ya you will have to unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then push a custom recovery. With the recovery you can install the su binaries.
Manual root:
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...mple-sdk-setup-manual-root-guide-windows.html
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Ok i'll only answer here now for this question:
I don't want to loose my warranty. Hence the softroot way.
I thought of something dunno if its possible:
is there a stock FRG83 image like the FRG33 I just installed....maybe 2.2.1 will be compatible with androot or superoneclick
Thanks
You need to do a few things before you go any further. There are key steps you are leaving out that are just a recipe for disaster. I'll detail them below, in the specific order you should follow them. There shall be no deviation from this list.
1 - Put your phone down. Seriously, stop messing with it. Just quit.
2 - Read the Wiki that you've been linked to, in both threads, several times.
2a - Now that you've read the Wiki, really read the Wiki. Yeah, you skimmed it the first time, I know you did.
2b - Now go read it again. I'm sure you'll notice something new this time.
2c - Now go read the links in the Wiki. Explore those threads.
2d - Those threads that the Wiki links to? They have links in them. Go read those.
3 - Rinse and repeat all steps from 2a to 2d for, oh, about 4 days. During this time you are allowed:
To post general chit chat on the forum. No technical stuff, no help threads, no questions. Just read. If you have questions, you need to read some more.
No more than 3 app installs per day, from the market. Thou shalt not download and install any APKs from any source that is not the Android Market.
To tweak settings on your phone, provided those settings are all done via the touchscreen on your phone. You shall forget the acronym "ADB".
Once you've done that, you'll root your phone in no time, and you won't be worried that you've bricked it. Then, and only then, can you start asking questions.
Why? Because all of your questions right now are answered. You're jumping the gun, and it's obvious you haven't done much research at all. Seriously, go read.
I hate to be mean, but if you want to understand stuff, you need to try and understand it on your own first. You're here looking for solutions (that are already spelled out) to problems that you created (because you didn't read anything). Quit looking for the easy way out. If you want to enjoy your phone and the features of what you're trying to accomplish...put some work in yourself, and stop expecting everyone else to fix everything and spell it out. People here are more than happy to help, but you gotta start helping yourself.
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
musashiken said:
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, mate. Didn't mean to quote the guy above me, just noticed I did that. Fixed it.
I'm amazed at the patience some folks have. Maybe it was my rough 3 day weekend that's left me a bit short... Appreciate the thanks, all the same.
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll read...it just that I tried the cm7 mod ( i know its experimental) and the phone
would'nt boot.
With the help of the great people on the board, I got my phone working again but on FRG33 (2.2)
My last question was if it was possible ( or someone knows of because Ive checked the net) to root without unlocking ( androot and superoneclick that i know of) if I have FRG33 ( Because Ive been getting permission errors)
Finally, I wanted to know if a FRG83 stock image was available so that I could recover to it without unlocking bootloader. (or any other stock that lets me root without unlock)
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
pooky2010 said:
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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See? Looking for the easy way out again.
It's not about anyone being pissed or short on patience. Look at how frustrated you are with the situation. You're frustrated. Why? Cause you did it wrong. Why? Cause you didn't read enough first. Even after several suggestions, you still want it done, with help, right now, or you'll sulk about someone pissed and how no one held your hand through it.
Is it possible to do what you want? Absolutely! Pretty easy, too. But if you read and help yourself, you'll better understand how to update in the future, as well as how to root the future update. Or, you'll learn how to root what you have, and flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (yes, those are here as well).
So call me an ass, cool. You did in your mind, that's fine. But really, I'm trying to let you know what will help you the most, and that's having a better understanding of how to prevent a boot loop in the future, or at least how to fix it if it happens. Best of luck, man.
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Here's the deal.
I did a one click root without unlocking the bootloader. Then I installed rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery. Then I did a backup ( both done in rom manager) then I went back into rom manager and installed cyanogenmod 7 and my nexus is now haxored gingerbread. Make sure you do a full wipe before flashing new roms and it'll always work.
I didn't update my radio, my hboot or anything like that. And it all just works and is dead simple. I would suggest trying z4root or universal androot and then downloading rom manager from the market.
How you managed to **** up something so simple is pretty funny dude.
I'm using an at&t band n1 with an smiled. Not the one with super LCD. I heard a rumor that the super LCD n1s have problems with certain mods. You might want to figure out what type of screen you have too.
The cyanogenmod wiki at cyanogenmod.com might help you too.
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OP, you have to learn the hard way. Stop using "newbie" as an excuse.
I was also a "newbie" when I first got my Nexus One in February. Everything about android was new and alien to me. It actually took me a couple of months of lurking in xda and reading up on tutorials before I took the plunge to rooting my phone. And I did not bother anyone on that. I made sure I understood the steps and triple checked every move I made in following instructions even though I did not understand them.
I also was worried about warranty and actually did the manual way of rooting my phone without unlocking the bootloader using some method that involved cutting a piece of plastic from my battery. That was nerve wrecking and no where as simple as the superoneclick thingy you have now. Yet I survived and I did it on my own.
I must admit that you have to be a little bit confident in using computers and have some basic knowledge of typing commands in cmd. But everyone has to start from somewhere.
Seriously if it's too much trouble or too complicated, maybe staying stock or going Iphone is a more comfortable alternative.
I'm actually pretty good with computers...
Also, I have bricked 4 phones (the provider took them back) fooling around...
I could brought this one back ( they didnt check). But I want to learn...I'm pretty impulsif...Anyway so far
With FRG33 z4root works (read thanks)
Now I trying to flash clockwork...( when I download cyan 6 +google apps) it reboots but I get the triangle thingy...I click power volume up ( read that thanks) I get a blue menu...I kinda scared to click an option so I rebooted...I'm trying to use rom manager for updates because its really simple ...anyway
Thats it for tonight All of you guys are nice dudes and I'll learn and will try to help im my own way...I know I'm a newbie that likes short cuts (hell I read all day at my day job...lol) This is fun ( playing with male toys)
Thanks guys!

Rooted on 4.1.57 even after update??!!

Ok so i managed to undo my hacked webtop, but i never unrooted my phone before updating to 4.1.57. Now my phone is updated and it says its on 4.1.57 but it still has super user and that still functions? Does this mean it is still rooted? I thought it was supposed to be removed? I am sort of confused whether this is good or bad? Any input? Thanks
Try to run something that requests for su permission... it wont work....
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same here but i didnt have the webtop hack just aroot and tether bypass and i still have all of what i had before super user and t-back up and my bypass for tethering....looks like i am still rooted can get into all files and what not
i did use some root required apps like root manager and they all work?
unnkown95 said:
i did use some root required apps like root manager and they all work?
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Can you go to adb or terminal and do "su"? It probably won't work.
A lot of other people were misinformed as well. The old apps are there but don't have root permissions. The Dev section has a dead simple script to run to root it though. You need to undo all mods or flash to stock and then follow their instructions.
I reversed my mods in a few minutes (redexed and reversed WTM) then I upgraded, rooted and deodexed and did the WTM again
oh ok, im not sure how to do that im very new to all this but i will take your word for it, can you help me on how to undo all the mods? Should i just unroot it? How do i redex and reverse wtm and what is wtm im so sorry for my questions .
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oh ok, im not sure how to do that im very new to all this but i will take your word for it, can you help me on how to undo all the mods? Should i just unroot it? How do i redex and reverse wtm and what is wtm im so sorry for my questions .
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WTM = Webtopmod.
I'm not an expert but I'm well versed with command lines and basic programming. Your best bet is to flash everything to stock rather than reversing the mods manually. This will give you a fresh slate to work with.
I presume that you have an AT&T Atrix so here's the link to the thread you need. It has all the appropriate info and I suggest you post any further questions in there. I always try hitting threads and helping everyone out where I can. If I can't get to your next inquiry, I'm sure someone else can help.
I don't go out much but the wife and I are going to a concert.. so next time I'm XDA tonight I'm going to be pissed drunk and probably lipping people off.
(don't drink and post!)
Thanks so much, but last question for some reason the link wont show up?
Try running titanium backup. If that starts then you sir, still have root access
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yep bongd was right the original apps i had still work but no new ones work,
so what do you guys suggest that i wipe my atrix and reinstall everything? is there anyway to back up with out root access?
the dead-on telltale test:
download Terminal Emulator from the market, open it, and type "su". if you get a #, then you have root.

[i9003] Frustrated First Root

Starting off, I'm probably posting in the wrong section. Excuse my forum etiquette, but I need help with this because I'm insanely frustrated and in pain (Decided to learn how to exploit the android OS while recovering from my surgery).
So, if you've read past that first part and are still willing to help, thank you.
Moderators: If you absolutely need to move this post, please move it to a section where it will actually get attention and I can get an answer. Thanks.
Anyway, the breakdown of my problem is this;
I wanted to root my new day old Sprint CMDA Nexus S, I've never rooted anything android, and if anything the most I've done with a droid OS is installed it on my old iphone 2g.
So I did some googling and first thing to come up was this guide:
nexusshacks(dotcom)/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s/
Now, usually I would do a bit more research, but because of the lack of blood in my body I'm doing dumb things, making bad decisions, whatever.
So obviously this guide doesn't work, even a quick skim of the comments shows that, I try to follow this guide-
I followed step "fastboot flash boot rootboot.img" then tried to reboot. It freezes at the google boot logo. This is where I start getting a bit nervous because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
So I think "Well, if I jump over to someone elses tutorial and do that it should overwrite any "root"ing data I've tried to put into the device.
So I jump over to this:
androidadvices(dotcom)/root-sprint-nexus-gingerbread-235-update/3/
It has me install PDANet and it's frozen since on the installing PDAnet to your phone.
I just want to get my Nexus S back to original factory default so I can start fresh from there without a terrible guide.
Can someone please help me get there?
Thanks.
tl;dr:
Bad guide soft bricked my phone and I want to restore it to factory defaults
agnl said:
Starting off, I'm probably posting in the wrong section. Excuse my forum etiquette, but I need help with this because I'm insanely frustrated and in pain (Decided to learn how to exploit the android OS while recovering from my surgery).
So, if you've read past that first part and are still willing to help, thank you.
Moderators: If you absolutely need to move this post, please move it to a section where it will actually get attention and I can get an answer. Thanks.
Anyway, the breakdown of my problem is this;
I wanted to root my new day old Sprint CMDA Nexus S, I've never rooted anything android, and if anything the most I've done with a droid OS is installed it on my old iphone 2g.
So I did some googling and first thing to come up was this guide:
nexusshacks(dotcom)/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s/
Now, usually I would do a bit more research, but because of the lack of blood in my body I'm doing dumb things, making bad decisions, whatever.
So obviously this guide doesn't work, even a quick skim of the comments shows that, I try to follow this guide-
I followed step "fastboot flash boot rootboot.img" then tried to reboot. It freezes at the google boot logo. This is where I start getting a bit nervous because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
So I think "Well, if I jump over to someone elses tutorial and do that it should overwrite any "root"ing data I've tried to put into the device.
So I jump over to this:
androidadvices(dotcom)/root-sprint-nexus-gingerbread-235-update/3/
It has me install PDANet and it's frozen since on the installing PDAnet to your phone.
I just want to get my Nexus S back to original factory default so I can start fresh from there without a terrible guide.
Can someone please help me get there?
Thanks.
tl;dr:
Bad guide soft bricked my phone and I want to restore it to factory defaults
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Ok I can see you need help but I am inclined to warn you instead. Stop. If you cannot figure out how to root the easiest phone to root then you shouldn't be messing around with your phone. You will end up screwing something up, won't know how to fix it, and come crying here for help. Do yourself some research before you go and ruin your phone.
Yes you posted in the wrong place.
There is a thread in this forum on how to root the nexus s 4g. Rooting is model specific. The T-Mobile Nexus s is different from the sprint, att, Rodgers, o2 etc.
Please please do some more research!
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Thanks for a reply, and I understand I dug a hole.
Now I need to get out of said hole, so if you had any directions of how to dig myself out, that'd be great.
if you can get into fastboot then you are still cool, if not you're gonna have to odin it. I dont actually know where the tar files are, Micheal posted it up but i think they deleted the thread. You should have came to xda first,we have one clicks.
actually rooting is the same across the board. same steps same everything... in fact the one click root version 1 would work on any and all of them, version 2 branches out a bit further due to that it installs cwm.
anyways boot into fastboot, download stock fastboot images from petes thread found here http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip and flash them all in fastboot.
youll be back on stock grj22 but youll at least be booting.. from there follow a guide for rooting this phone that has you flash cwm (not a prerooted kernel). or be lazy and use my one click root
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
shabbypenguin said:
actually rooting is the same across the board. same steps same everything... in fact the one click root version 1 would work on any and all of them, version 2 branches out a bit further due to that it installs cwm.
anyways boot into fastboot, download stock fastboot images from petes thread found here http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip and flash them all in fastboot.
youll be back on stock grj22 but youll at least be booting.. from there follow a guide for rooting this phone that has you flash cwm (not a prerooted kernel). or be lazy and use my one click root
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mikeyinid said:
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
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+1
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mikeyinid said:
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
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lol you give me way too much credit mikey but thanks for teh vote of confidence

[Q] Total Noob Question about the Droid Razr M and Rooting

Ok y'all I'm just going to come out and preface this by saying that I'm a noob when it comes to rooting phones and don't quite understand it. What is rooting exactly? What are the benefits to rooting? Does it void the phone's warranty? And what is the best method for rooting the Droid RAZR M running 4.1.1 Jelly Bean? Is there any way to "un-root" a phone once it's rooted?
Gunner out!
There was is an old website. Ummmm what's it called ummm how you say ummmmmm ..... oh yeah Google.
Rooting makes the phone more fun to play with. Yes it voids the warranty. Yes you can unroot.
Hit up Google. They supposed to be some sort of informational website or something.
And don't take my sarcasm wrong dude. Im just messing with ya. If you decide to root this thing and you need help ima hook you up. I knew squat about android when I found this place and I was led by the hand for a bit. I don't mind giving back!
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whodisname said:
There was is an old website. Ummmm what's it called ummm how you say ummmmmm ..... oh yeah Google.
Rooting makes the phone more fun to play with. Yes it voids the warranty. Yes you can unroot.
Hit up Google. They supposed to be some sort of informational website or something.
And don't take my sarcasm wrong dude. Im just messing with ya. If you decide to root this thing and you need help ima hook you up. I knew squat about android when I found this place and I was led by the hand for a bit. I don't mind giving back!
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I'm all ears
I have always used root, as a preface to installing custom recovery and a custom rom. I don't know how new you are so please don't be offended when I say custom recovery and roms give you more options and more freedom to make your phone yours. I also root to remove system apps that aren't used commonly called bloatware that come preinstalled on your device and without root you can not uninstall these. There are apps on the market that require root to gain use or full use like setCPU, root explorer and titanium backup there are others as well. I hope this little bit of information helps you make your decision!
Here's a link to the guide on how to root your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940630
Its really easy. Just download the moto droid razr drivers and install them on your PC. Follow the directions on the screen. Just a couple button presses and presto. The program will let you know that it has successfully gained root. Use root checker from Google play to verify proper root. Should you run into root access issues. Here is a zip that will fix that.
Delete the original su file and superuser apk from the motofail2go folder and replace them with the files located in the root zip and paste them in the motofail2go folder. Rerun the program and it should work then. Good luck.

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