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http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2010/12/09/htc-knight-rumoured-ride-sprint-jan-6.htm
Check this updated article from Dec. 9th, 2010.....now...I may get this....was not going to get it if it did not have a front facing camera....for real.....we would all be charged the $10 fee....and Sprint wants to keep in the EVO family....they need to give us more.....and I have been waiting 4-ever for a keyboard.....finally....and all those articles that said no front facing camera.....well...read for urself!!!!!

Annnd not getting an epic anymore lol

and apart from the size of the display there seems little to distinguish the two, except for the possibility of the new version of Android.
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...and the keyboard lol

Reckless5040 said:
Annnd not getting an epic anymore lol
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Exactly! Was planning on switching to sprint in jan. This is just in time. Just what I wanted. I do not want a behemoth to carry arround. My nexus one with 3.7 screen is perfect size. All I missed was a slide out keyboard and front facing cam.
One other thing I like to consider though. Which will be more likely to have future OS versions ported? I dont bother on relying on sprint/samsung/htc for updates. I am asking about difficulty for devs. A big reason I was considering the epic is that the nexus s came out running the same platform, which made me think porting new OS releases would relatively easy. Is the shift likely to get new releases faster since it is an HTC product? I know it is impossible to know anything but what are your guy's thoughts on this right now?

Cidigital said:
http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2010/12/09/htc-knight-rumoured-ride-sprint-jan-6.htm
Check this updated article from Dec. 9th, 2010.....now...I may get this....was not going to get it if it did not have a front facing camera....for real.....we would all be charged the $10 fee....and Sprint wants to keep in the EVO family....they need to give us more.....and I have been waiting 4-ever for a keyboard.....finally....and all those articles that said no front facing camera.....well...read for urself!!!!!
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ummm GB in a few days??? Yea ok, and I thought i saw a pig flying a minute ago.

Oooo la la. I might switch. Getting really sick of the sluggish Evo.

sluggish evo? its got alot of life left in it.
what does the shift have, like a 2 inch screen, 400mhz cpu, and a lame keyboard? no thanks.
/exhaggeration

TorxT3D said:
sluggish evo? its got alot of life left in it.
what does the shift have, like a 2 inch screen, 400mhz cpu, and a lame keyboard? no thanks.
/exhaggeration
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ignore him he nothing but a evo hater lol

TorxT3D said:
sluggish evo? its got alot of life left in it.
what does the shift have, like a 2 inch screen, 400mhz cpu, and a lame keyboard? no thanks.
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Err, not sure if this is sarcasm, as beyond exaggeration it is false. You imply the shift has a slower CPU. Dont count mhz. The second gen snapdragon in the shift will certainly outperform the evo without question and with 45nm tech get better batt life to boot. I agree the Evo is not sluggish though. Which means the shift will be even better. Maybe you just need to ditch sense?
As for screen size that is not a downgrade. It is user preference. I like a nice compact device, not a brick.
Same thing with keyboard. I like getting real work done on my handset. KB is very effective.
If you already know this and were joking I apologize . If you were serious you should really rethink your position and recognize that different things suit different people (the CPU issue however is clear cut that the shift is superior).
Cheers!

Those of you who do decide to buy the Shift might be disappointed come June when the true successor to the Evolution drops.

@op
You may wanna do some research....this phone is coming with 2.2
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Please hush. I'm tired of fanboys saying the Evo is not sluggish. Its hands down the laggiest Android phone out there that is running froyo and above. Youtube and common sense are your friend. Installing CM6 does nothing but help a little.

Don't know about that.........Def not slow over here.
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Will there be a root for Evo shift 4g ,or would be the same has the Evo??
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david279 said:
Don't know about that.........Def not slow over here.
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Same here,im really happy with the performance of my EVO.

traybent said:
Will there be a root for Evo shift 4g ,or would be the same has the Evo??
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The shift is more like a g2 than anything so we'll have to look that direction I believe for root.
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Its gonna have to be rootable if ill ever consider buying it.

werxen said:
Please hush. I'm tired of fanboys saying the Evo is not sluggish. Its hands down the laggiest Android phone out there that is running froyo and above. Youtube and common sense are your friend. Installing CM6 does nothing but help a little.
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Do you actually think about it before you type?? I can't tell. Do you even own an EVO? JUst by your laggiest statement i can tell you are a moron.

LOVE my EVO. Hate physical keyboards. Remind me of girl stuff.
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werxen said:
Please hush. I'm tired of fanboys saying the Evo is not sluggish. Its hands down the laggiest Android phone out there that is running froyo and above. Youtube and common sense are your friend. Installing CM6 does nothing but help a little.
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Haha, classic definition of user error right here.
Honestly, if your EVO is that bad then you either have a bad device, or you've done something horribly wrong, in which case.. you shouldn't worry about owning a smartphone.. stick to the flips.

Am i the only one..

Who actually thinks the new phone is cool, and wants it?
/hides behind stone wall.

Probably

backdown said:
Who actually thinks the new phone is cool, and wants it?
/hides behind stone wall.
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well I don't blame. I'm assuming you live in the stone ages since your hiding behind a stone wall and think this phone is cool...
haha.

probably... i mean to make such a big hype for a phone that's a brick? no 4g...? no front facing camera? this literally looks like a Nintendo DS as a phone. It doesn't really appeal to me and probably a lot of other people.

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Probably not. It is an industry first, but it's also pretty much just a gimmick, like 3D. I would have been much more interested in a dual core phone, or even an Evo with an updated processor.
I can see how it would be good for mulittasking...if it had the power of a dual core processor...but the specs are very underwhelming, and the battery life is going to be horrible.

Its not that bad a phone but sprint did themselves a great disservice by hyping it up so much. People where expecting something huge and instead got a phone.
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it's sort of like taking a ds. And then taking out the gaming capabilities of it, and then.... selling it.

backdown said:
Who actually thinks the new phone is cool, and wants it?
/hides behind stone wall.
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Yes. Yes you are.

The issue is that it "may" be a good phone once some people get their hands on it and play with it.
But you cannot deny the overwhelming negative response (see their facebook page) as a pretty big sign that it may not be a good phone.
If you look at it from a sales/marketing POV they would much rather have a phone that everyone thinks looks really cool at a press release, but then falls a little short of expectation in the real world. At least they sell some phones, and the high initial praise helps sustain the life of the phone.
Now look at this situation, especially in this economy, 99% of the initial response is bordering "verbal lynch mob", even if it a good phone, how many people will actually give it a chance?
First impressions can kill...........

It's an interesting concept, I'll give them that, but it's made by Kyocera, looks like a brick and not a lot of developers will go out of their way to make use of both screens.

xHausx said:
Its not that bad a phone but sprint did themselves a great disservice by hyping it up so much. People where expecting something huge and instead got a phone.
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I've seen almost nothing on the phone, but I agree. The hype was the worst of it.
I recall saying something similar would be great. I dropped the thought when tablets came.
EDIT-saw the video. WTF? Now I know why people said brick. I no longer have any interest even in passing.

The biggest issue is that from what i understand, its a basic Android. Phone with a 2nd gen snap dragon running 2 screens. Won't that hurt performance?
Sent from my evo 4g

Say "neat-o" and move on down the line.
You have been EVOfied.

4G - I don't have it...and i don't need it.
Front facing camera - Mine sucks..i hardly use it.
Maybe it's just the cool factor of it, but I think it looks more professional than the Evo.

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but I think it looks more professional than the Evo.
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And a frumpy ***** in a business suit (echo) looks more professional than a supermodel (evo). Guess which one I want in my pants?

uniquenameevo said:
And a frumpy ***** in a business suit looks more professional than a supermodel. Guess which one I want in my pants?
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lol. processor isn't to bad tho... same as as shift (which beats the evo) but clocked even higher.

aimbdd said:
lol. processor isn't to bad tho... same as as shift (which beats the evo) but clocked even higher.
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Nope. It's loaded with a first gen snapdragon... I repeat. Epic fail.

backdown said:
Maybe it's just the cool factor of it, but I think it looks more professional than the Evo.
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now thats just silly!
But, remember,
you will never get an update past the OS that they ship it with
you get like a whole 5 apps that can utilize both screens, and no developer is going to waste time expanding their code base to accommodate this
and now i have lost interest! lol

cheapskate88 said:
Nope. It's loaded with a first gen snapdragon... I repeat. Epic fail.
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Actually its the second gen check out engadget fire more proof...i don't feel like providing it.
. Under the hood there's a 1GHz second-gen Snapdragon running Android 2.2 -- we'll forgive the older software because Kyocera had to do extensive customization to add dual-screen support to seven core apps like the browser, email, and messaging.
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Time to Start Drooling?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/06/sprint-announcing-nexus-s-4g-evo-3d-and-evo-view-tablet-at-cti/

A link to a link to a link..... Must.. go... deeper!
EDIT: Awww, you edited your post. No fun.

This makes me happy

Me too shroomz if out is a 3d phone I'll be stoked I'll have a 3DS AND A 3D EVO!
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Just saw this on pulse and it made my day I have an upgrade this month ill be holding on to
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11888066#post11888066
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It's drool worthy alright.how reliable are those sources??!
Also a Nexus S 4G with no S'Amoled plus and a dual core processor will be a big flop.

Now I'm just upset I just got my evo lol

Why exactly do we want 3D?
I need processing power, better screen, dual core, maybe better camera.

rockky said:
Why exactly do we want 3D?
I need processing power, better screen, dual core, maybe better camera.
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It's just a selling point... people want the latest and greatest that makes the average consumer go "oooohhh" and say "the iPhone doesn't have it, come get it!"

It's funny/pathetic because soooo many people counted sprint out of the race after the echo announcement, especially morons on this forum.
Thread after thread by the most loyal sprint customers were talking about how there jumping ship and how there is no EVO 2, etc etc... Now all of these morons are about to jump back on board...
To anybody who was allegedly going to leave sprint because they were too stupid to realize that they wouldn't announce their best stuff until CTiA....
LEAVE AND DON'T COME BACK.
Thanks.

rockky said:
Why exactly do we want 3D?
I need processing power, better screen, dual core, maybe better camera.
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I'm pretty sure we're going to get all of that, but adding 3d is just something to help differentiate and spice up the EVO...I suppose.
I really don't see a practical use for it, but we never know. I remember when cameras were first introduced to' cell phones and a lot of people didn't see the practicality, but now look at how big they've become.
I'm sure we'll find something useful for 3d, assuming it works well.

starplaya93 said:
It's funny/pathetic because soooo many people counted sprint out of the race after the echo announcement, especially morons on this forum.
Thread after thread by the most loyal sprint customers were talking about how there jumping ship and how there is no EVO 2, etc etc... Now all of these morons are about to jump back on board...
To anybody who was allegedly going to leave sprint because they were too stupid to realize that they wouldn't announce their best stuff until CTiA....
LEAVE AND DON'T COME BACK.
Thanks.
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You are correct

DirtyShroomz said:
You are correct
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Forgiveness is the way, young children. I hope the nexus s has GS 2 specs!
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I'm highly interested in the EVO 3D. It may or may not be a powerhouse specwise... but you know it has to be an upgrade over the current evo.
I just hope it's still a 4.3" screen with better quality hardware.
**edit** Am I the only one who thinks it's silly to get so butthurt over people threatening to leave Sprint? I can't think of anything I care less about than what cellphone provider other people use.

LoveisPeace2012 said:
Forgiveness is the way, young children. I hope the nexus s has GS 2 specs!
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I know... But I was just getting irritated with all of the people talking about sprint with no justification, now those same exact people are going to be praising sprint...
The hypocrisy in this world is rampant.

starplaya93 said:
I know... But I was just getting irritated with all of the people talking about sprint with no justification, now those same exact people are going to be praising sprint...
The hypocrisy in this world is rampant.
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Haha true that.
Just speculation do you guys think sprint will stick with HTC for the EVO 3D or will they do like Verizon's Droid branding????
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Let it go...let it go bro..
starplaya93 said:
I know... But I was just getting irritated with all of the people talking about sprint with no justification, now those same exact people are going to be praising sprint...
The hypocrisy in this world is rampant.
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Yeah, it'll be cool cosmetics ....but not cool if it reduces battery life. Hopefully its a feature that can be turned on and off?
Rippley05 said:
I'm highly interested in the EVO 3D. It may or may not be a powerhouse specwise... but you know it has to be an upgrade over the current evo.
I just hope it's still a 4.3" screen with better quality hardware.
**edit** Am I the only one who thinks it's silly to get so butthurt over people threatening to leave Sprint? I can't think of anything I care less about than what cellphone provider other people use.
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rockky said:
Yeah, it'll be cool cosmetics ....but not cool if it reduces battery life. Hopefully its a feature that can be turned on and off?
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I think it will be.. from what I seen (very little mind you) the 3D phones aren't like 3D when you go to the movies... It's definitely just a "wow that's cool" sorta thing.
If it is something that is forced on you without the ability to turn it off.. then it may not be as appealing to me at all.
Side note, I wonder how the devs are gonna tackle this technology once it gets rooted.

Cant wait to see this 2.5 hour presentation.... it better be great
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Sprint Premiere phone

Anyone here about sprint having this premier phone on July 6th? I don't want the 3d because i think its useless and i heard someone mention a new sprint phone releasing very soon.
Anybody got more input on this? i didn't hear a name or nothing on google

Its probably the Motorola photon. I read something saying it would becoming out in July. Google that phone and see what u find.
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http://goo.gl/Fp7M7
I also believe it could be the photon.

What do u guys think about it. Evo rival? It looks to be pretty good but aren't Motorola's hard to root?
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dirkyd3rk said:
I also believe it could be the photon.
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??

Do u think the photon will he as good as the evo and 3d
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modmuscle01 said:
Do u think the photon will he as good as the evo and 3d
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http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-photon-4g-sprint/4505-6452_7-34830808.html
The specifications are.

This might sound crazy to some but i really, and i mean really hate the design of it though. Specs are beast!

mattykinsx said:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-photon-4g-sprint/4505-6452_7-34830808.html
The specifications are.
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and matty for crying out loud why do you have all that phone info in you sig man! We used to do that back when i had my tmobile mda and tmo dash lol 0_o

dirkyd3rk said:
and matty for crying out loud why do you have all that phone info in you sig man! We used to do that back when i had my tmobile mda and tmo dash lol 0_o
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Honestly, it makes asking a question easier.
Instead of having to include all the information in that post.
Also, you'll notice the links which help for people looking for a specific item listed.

dirkyd3rk said:
This might sound crazy to some but i really, and i mean really hate the design of it though. Specs are beast!
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I have to agree, specs are nice, but the form factor, and the angled sides at the top, really?

mattykinsx said:
Honestly, it makes asking a question easier.
Instead of having to include all the information in that post.
Also, you'll notice the links which help for people looking for a specific item listed.
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oh yeah i didn't know they were actual links lol, i rarely use xda on the comp, rarely. My bad lol

teh roxxorz said:
I have to agree, specs are nice, but the form factor, and the angled sides at the top, really?
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Dude i know right, whom ever sat down and had that bright idea needs to be fired immediately lol. Why the hell would i want my phone with each corner sliced off ahahah *scratches head*

dirkyd3rk said:
Dude i know right, whom ever sat down and had that bright idea needs to be fired immediately lol. Why the hell would i want my phone with each corner sliced off ahahah *scratches head*
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I'm surprised they didn't do the same on the bottom, and use the slogan, 'Motorola Photon, on the cutting edge of smart phones!' -pew pew-
But really, it looks awkward, and might 'potentially' have awkward use in landscape mode if you have small hands cuz the corners may not sit right.
Though I won't buy it, it gets +1 for the kickstand.

teh roxxorz said:
I'm surprised they didn't do the same on the bottom, and use the slogan, 'Motorola Photon, on the cutting edge of smart phones!' -pew pew-
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LOL! PEW PEW! You just made my day man

idk about you guys but i like it. i dont understand the edges but atleast its different. Different is always good

I like it. I don't think the angles are so sharp that it really looks that bad and like everyone said the specs are great. Ill keep my evo even if I do buy the photon just in case.
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Joey_UFC said:
idk about you guys but i like it. i dont understand the edges but atleast its different. Different is always good
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everytime i see your sig with yoda in it i just hit the thanks button lmfao. i cant stop laughing at it.

^LOL Dirky (that dont sound right)
but the edges arent something that will keep my away from buying a phone. maybe it there to make it fit in your hand better, or maybe it is just some dumb design but won't know until i hold it in my hands.
Evo is a bit big for my palm, downsizing is a plus for me

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The specs seem great on paper, but they're easily matched or beaten by the EVO 3D.
It's running 2.2 as opposed to the EVO 3D's 2.3.3
Pentile display versus the 'true' Qhd resolution of the EVO 3D.
The Tegra 2 GPU really isn't all it's cracked up to be, the Adreno 220 easily matches and bests it in some ways.
Also the form factor, as you mentioned, is pretty bad imo.

Saw an LG 3D today..

Oh man... Much as I like the old galaxy s2.. This 3D LG is serious... Played nova in 3D..
It is incredible.. Anyone else tempted to ditch the sammy for a 3D phone?
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3d sucks...so no.

Another non S2 thread in the Galaxy S II General section. I saw a Nokia 5100 today, anyone wanna ditch the sammy for a Nokia 5100 ?

jangomango said:
Oh man... Much as I like the old galaxy s2.. This 3D LG is serious... Played nova in 3D..
It is incredible.. Anyone else tempted to ditch the sammy for a 3D phone?
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old S2? lol... To be honest I think that 3D is a fad and another way to make us part with our hard earned gadget money.
I admit I am curious to see one in real life but won't be giving up my S2 anytime soon.

I am getting a LG 3D but won't get rid of the GS2, to be fair I saw a video on youtube a chap had took that has one and the 1080p was as good as this but had faster auto focus, there was also a 3D 720p video but you obviously need the 3d stuff to see that properly.

I played with one of the 3D phones over the weekend and I started to get a headache when looking at the screen after a while. I'm going to give the 3d thing a miss.

No way....dont like 3D and i dont trust LG.
just look at 2x .
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in a few months you will easily be able to get 3D on the beloved SGS2 with this new technology

Intratech said:
I played with one of the 3D phones over the weekend and I started to get a headache when looking at the screen after a while. I'm going to give the 3d thing a miss.
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Same for me. I didn't like playing with Nintendo 3Ds and also when watching 3D movies my eyes don't like it at all.
So yeah, going to skip 3D until they implement it properly.
Maybe after 3 years might get it.

kreoXDA said:
in a few months you will easily be able to get 3D on the beloved SGS2 with this new technology
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I am laughing my a** off with this one...lol

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Another non S2 thread in the Galaxy S II General section. I saw a Nokia 5100 today, anyone wanna ditch the sammy for a Nokia 5100 ?
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Actually big-mouth this is the s2 general thread so if you have nothing to say..jog on...
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jangomango said:
Actually big-mouth this is the s2 general thread so if you have nothing to say..jog on...
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Don;t you know this section is for samsung fanboys only?
Seriously, was at the us over the weekend and played the HTC EVO 3D for a while. I have to admit it was awesome, the quality of the 3d pics and video it took is really good. The 3D gaming is brilliant too.
Didn't see the LG one tho so can't say much but am totally dig the whole 3D thingy.

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Actually big-mouth this is the s2 general thread so if you have nothing to say..jog on...
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Here, take this phone, ditch your sammy and hush
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3D doesnt do it for me, and from what iv read neither does LG!
Love my samsung. Even if they do release a new samsung (which they wont) by the end of this year, the developers wont jump ship when they just purchased the SGS2. I go where developers go

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...and from what iv read neither does LG!
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A bunch of us came from the G2X/O2X. After six months, LG can't fix the firmware and/or release a 2.3.X update. Devs found interesting things in their code. Debugging was left enabled, there's comments relating to "demo code," drivers were poorly written and some incomplete. And the G2X/O2X really aren't that advanced hardware wise other than having a dual-core SoC and HDMI. If they can't get a somewhat basic phone correct, why would you have any faith in them developing a 3D phone? Check out the O2X, G2X, and Revolution forums. LG should stick to TVs and washers and dryers. After my G2X experience I would use two cans and a string before I'd ever own another LG phone.

CandyAndy said:
Same for me. I didn't like playing with Nintendo 3Ds and also when watching 3D movies my eyes don't like it at all.
So yeah, going to skip 3D until they implement it properly.
Maybe after 3 years might get it.
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That's the thing though, I can watch 3D movies in the cinema and 3D TV just fine it's just the phone that was uncomfortable for me.

See below, lol

It does nothing better than the SGSII.... The SGSII does everything better than anything at the moment. I'm serious as hell and definitely not a fanboi, just stating fact.
Operative words here are, Nothing Better!
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