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Will I Have G1 Problems?

I'm about to buy the G1 and unlock it for AT&T, so my questions are. Is this the right site where I unlock my G1? http://www.unlock-tmobileg1.com/EN/unlock-code-G1.php?setCurrency=USD. Since AT&T and T-Mo have different bands will Edge and 3G work? And lastly when the new "cupcake" update comes out, since my phone is unlock can i just update and not have to worry?
Thanks

Edge will work but AT&T uses a different 3G frequency than T-Mo so you'll have no 3G. Since updates are pushed out by T-Mo I kinda doubt you'll get them if you're on the AT&T network but I could be wrong. If/when there is a cupcake release I'm sure it'll be made available here at XDA for manual installation. I got my unlock code directly from T-Mo so I can't vouch for any 3rd party sites but I know they're available on eBay for $16.99 and up.

Can anyone else tell me if the OTA updates will go to my phone if on AT&T and if it does will it mess up my unlock?

OTA updates will not affect simlock state. No clue whether G1 users on ATT will get OTA updates, but my guess is yes. You can still manually apply updates from sdcard as well.

jashsu said:
OTA updates will not affect simlock state. No clue whether G1 users on ATT will get OTA updates, but my guess is yes. You can still manually apply updates from sdcard as well.
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Does that mean i have to "Root" my phone?

xSNOWCAT said:
Does that mean i have to "Root" my phone?
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Nope. Anyone can install signed updates from sdcard.

Thanks, so now that i know my unlock won't get messed up and can update whenever, that makes me happy.

To Unlock your phone you can call T-Mobile and have them do it free.
Don't Use Pay Sites, It Is A Ripoff

You have to be a T-Mobile customer for at least a given amount of time, i thought, since if you are not up-to-date with your payments, they wont send you an unlock code.

That is only for those that are on contract. If you are not on contract tell them you bought the phone outright and that you would like the unlock code immediatly.

HTC Hero US 3G (850/1900mhz 3G)

http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
I would have waited and not signed up with sprint would I have known.

Glad I returned my sprint one. The sprint coverage where I live is NOT what at&t have. Just ordered from GSMImport. They are extremly fast with shipping and this one comes already unlocked! I always loved the white chin version of the hero best! Glad I waited! The only flaw from what I hear is the android market is NOT showing all or paid apps on the Telus version... Can anyone confirm this?

Telus wont show paid apps, cuz there are no paid apps for canada yet, not even the Rogers android phones show paid apps. For the network, if u are in a US network, paid apps should show fine.

ow, so its not the phone that doe sit but the network that allows them? Come to think of it, when I had my rogers mytouch, it was showing apps just fine on the at&t network. Thanks Rosco!

Well, there goes that. Confirmed that paid app's on the telus version are not there! Sucks!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=13249720#post13249720
UPDATE: Anyone wanna give this a try?
http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/downloads/detail?name=MarketEnabler_3.0_beta.apk&can=2&q=
Or this?
http://strazzere.com/blog/?tag=market-enabler

Rooting should solve this problem tho =)
I got a rooted Rogers Magic, working on Mexico`s Telcel, with paid apps.

I hear ya. I beleive the Telus Hero is NOT rootable as of yet. Do you need to be rooted in order to install the market enabler APK?

Raspster said:
I hear ya. I beleive the Telus Hero is NOT rootable as of yet. Do you need to be rooted in order to install the market enabler APK?
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Telus Hero rooting guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581981

good thing i posted this in the normal hero forum instead of the cdma one. over at android forums they deleted most of my posts stating i posted in the wrong forum. I for one did not know this phone was going to be released at all with North American bands. it passed the fcc a while back with NA bands but hadn't heard anything since.

yeah i just rooted my Telus Hero.. took a while, had alot of problems but eventually it worked and everything is fine now
(HUGE sigh of relief LOL)

tsekh501 said:
Telus Hero rooting guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581981
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Saw that guide. I'm sure I can probably get it rollin but don't have that kind of time theses days. I'll just wait for the official root for the Telus. I'm sure someone will do it.

Raspster said:
Saw that guide. I'm sure I can probably get it rollin but don't have that kind of time theses days. I'll just wait for the official root for the Telus. I'm sure someone will do it.
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What do you mean by official root?

Raspster said:
Saw that guide. I'm sure I can probably get it rollin but don't have that kind of time theses days. I'll just wait for the official root for the Telus. I'm sure someone will do it.
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Yeah a few of us rooting our phone with success.
You need to downgrade your RRU and then you can flash it and load Modaco

kriEv said:
Yeah a few of us rooting our phone with success.
You need to downgrade your RRU and then you can flash it and load Modaco
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Thats because the current ROM on the Telus Hero can't be rooted yet. I have already rooted the unlocked EURO hero and the rogers mytouch and the process was very simply. None of this down-grading or anything like that which add's additional steps and risks.

I rooted my Telus Hero.... No problem at all. Flashed to cooked roms.
Why some people still think Telus Hero is not rootable?

Raspster said:
Thats because the current ROM on the Telus Hero can't be rooted yet. I have already rooted the unlocked EURO hero and the rogers mytouch and the process was very simply. None of this down-grading or anything like that which add's additional steps and risks.
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tell me about it, my SMS wasnt working after the rooting.. luckily for me, i noticed a dead pixel on my screen.. i was in the 15day grace period so i went back to the store and they swapped it

guy's my biggest concern about the HTC Hero is that, i read from some sites that AT&T might pick up the Hero in early 2010, if that does happen what will happen to the people that bought the phone from telus and are using it? Will our phones be handicapped until we buy a $30.00 data plan like the iphone or blackberry?

Just FYI - I have the unlocked Telus Hero from ImportGSM (they are up the street from my office!) and I have paid apps in the marketplace.
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Well, there goes that. Confirmed that paid app's on the telus version are not there! Sucks!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=13249720#post13249720
UPDATE: Anyone wanna give this a try?
http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/downloads/detail?name=MarketEnabler_3.0_beta.apk&can=2&q=
Or this?
http://strazzere.com/blog/?tag=market-enabler
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chybinj said:
Just FYI - I have the unlocked Telus Hero from ImportGSM (they are up the street from my office!) and I have paid apps in the marketplace.
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Same here. I got mine from them as well. It's does not have all the apps though (paid & free) Some copyrighted apps are not on it... Apps like bloo which is one of the first apps I install... Many others. My cousin has the droid and he has WAY more apps in his market.

Virgin mobile legend not getting update.

http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/95/t/3518.aspx?PageIndex=3
So for those like me who purchased a virgin mobile legend we won't get it. Not sure what to do then.
Although it is a virgin phone, all I did to it was unlock it to use with Rogers. What should I do?
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

i have a virgin legend too so am in the same boat...not really surprised that virgin is not coming out with the update - welcome to canada
i really want to flash the unbranded froyo rom that came out today but unfortunately it doesnt look like its possible now...
until we can change our cid's or have a resigned ROM with our cid (BM___001) we would have to root and go with cyanogen 6.1 or another custom rom (not my 1st choice)..
if anyone has a workaround please help us out...thanks in advance

Well I wouldn't mind trying a few ROM's, but I'm a complete join with this stuff. I suppose I need to learn now...
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

I bought a Legend from Virgin mobile in August. I became tired of their games and recently purchased a sim card from Bell and put it in the Legend. Guess what? It worked no problem. I can tell you I never unlocked my phone. The Virgin Legend did not have any Virgin mobile software or wigets in them. The only place I saw the word Virgin mobile, was in the network operators list, (mobile network settings), and in network operator name,(about phone, settings). These changed from Virgin, to Bell when I put the Bell sim in. I am now wondering if my phone is still branded to Virgin. If it is not, I would suggest to the OP that you terminate your account with Virgin on the basis that they ended your upgrade path, then take your phone over to Bell, or maybe even Rogers. that said, how do we know that rogers would care to license an OTA upgrade for a phone they never sold? At least Bell sold the phone for a few months.

I got my phone from Virgin as well and I am using the modaco stock froyo rom. It is basically stock except it's rooted. The experience will be exactly the same (unlike using other custom roms) Trying to make the new ruu work on a Virgin phone is probably not gonna be much simpler than rooting, so you may as well go the rooting route.

bitbitbit said:
I got my phone from Virgin as well and I am using the modaco stock froyo rom. It is basically stock except it's rooted. The experience will be exactly the same (unlike using other custom roms) Trying to make the new ruu work on a Virgin phone is probably not gonna be much simpler than rooting, so you may as well go the rooting route.
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so the modaco stock froyo rom is based on the htc unbranded rom that was released today? do you have a link?
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I bought a Legend from Virgin mobile in August. I became tired of their games and recently purchased a sim card from Bell and put it in the Legend. Guess what? It worked no problem. I can tell you I never unlocked my phone. The Virgin Legend did not have any Virgin mobile software or wigets in them. The only place I saw the word Virgin mobile, was in the network operators list, (mobile network settings), and in network operator name,(about phone, settings). These changed from Virgin, to Bell when I put the Bell sim in. I am now wondering if my phone is still branded to Virgin. If it is not, I would suggest to the OP that you terminate your account with Virgin on the basis that they ended your upgrade path, then take your phone over to Bell, or maybe even Rogers. that said, how do we know that rogers would care to license an OTA upgrade for a phone they never sold? At least Bell sold the phone for a few months.
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you realize bell=virgin right? bell discontinued the legend so you wont see an update from them either...

Not so my friend. Check out post #14
http://mobilesyrup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3928

I figured they (virgin or bell) would either do it really late or not at all. So I debranded it, but got the same error as in the other threads during the upgrade.
Then I decided to try CM 6.1, and the only thing i regret is not trying it sooner. Never going back to sense again, CM is cleaner, faster, with lots more options.

nolook said:
so the modaco stock froyo rom is based on the htc unbranded rom that was released today? do you have a link?
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It's based on the vodafone rom that came out couple weeks ago but there is nothing about vodafone in it (no logo nor junk app). It should be identical to the one that came out today (at least from the end-user point of view anyway)
Here is the link:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...o-rom-for-the-htc-legend-with-online-kitchen/

You guys really need to stop emailing unknowledgable "support staff" and wait for official announcements like this one from the Virgin Mobile Canada twitter feed:
"android update! we'll be offering android 2.2 froyo update for htc legend in mid-january. stay tuned for details."
Looks like official Froyo for our Legends after all!

couldnt possibly wait until jan and dont want any bell stuff on my legend so installed the official htc unbranded froyo rom....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9764446#post9764446

nolook said:
couldnt possibly wait until jan and dont want any bell stuff on my legend so installed the official htc unbranded froyo rom....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9764446#post9764446
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Yeah, I couldn't wait either and put Cyanogenmod on my Legend. My wife will be getting the Virgin update when it's available

Hey guys!
Just to be sure, is Virgin Mobile software version the same as the Bell one?
If so, that means if Virgin get the update, us with a Bell phone will get it to?

Virgin announced the Vibrant's update, and it was rolled out to Virgin, Bell and Sasktel so I assume so yes.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

OS 2.2 arrives for the Virgin and SaskTel Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant

http://pages.samsung.com/ca/froyo/English/
Interesting. Especially since the how-to images show it as JK3. So have they fixed the SD corruption or not? Guess we'll find out...

I was hoping to come here and see if some brave soul has tried this for sasktel or not. I already had to send mine in a couple of weeks ago and want some feedback before updating my wife's.

Bell here; no update. Says "This device version cannot be upgraded" or something. If Bell doesn't have any update, no way SaskTel does.

Update to 8773 Tango?

Any chance the DVP will see an update for those of us with unlocked ones?
Microsoft is starting to push it out to the masses, so just wondering.

I doubt it.

No one knows. Hopefully we'll get the cabs soon so we can manually push it with cabsender.

Did they just say today that all 1st and 1.5 gen phones will get 7.8?? Guess time to update to 8107 to prepare!
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No one knows. Hopefully we'll get the cabs soon so we can manually push it with cabsender.
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aleunge said:
Did they just say today that all 1st and 1.5 gen phones will get 7.8?? Guess time to update to 8107 to prepare!
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What I've heard is that once you have the 7.8 OS on there, all future updates will be delivered OTA, bypassing the carrier entirely. (I guess that means you'll have to be connected to wifi.)
Once WP8 is ready, that'll be about the time that they release WP7.8. The carrier will still have to greenlight 7.10.8107, 7.10.8773, and (whatever 7.8 is) before Zune will allow you to update.
So hopefully all the handset makers will care enough about their long-dead product lines to update to 7.8 to take the carriers out of the Windows Phone update equation.
Personally I'm going to wait on the 8107 update for the DVP until T-Mobile greenlights it.

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What I've heard is that once you have the 7.8 OS on there, all future updates will be delivered OTA, bypassing the carrier entirely. (I guess that means you'll have to be connected to wifi.)
Once WP8 is ready, that'll be about the time that they release WP7.8. The carrier will still have to greenlight 7.10.8107, 7.10.8773, and (whatever 7.8 is) before Zune will allow you to update.
So hopefully all the handset makers will care enough about their long-dead product lines to update to 7.8 to take the carriers out of the Windows Phone update equation.
Personally I'm going to wait on the 8107 update for the DVP until T-Mobile greenlights it.
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its carrier dependent or manufacturer dependent?
my DVP is unlocked and running up here in Canada so whats to say I will receive any of these updates?

fubag said:
its carrier dependent or manufacturer dependent?
my DVP is unlocked and running up here in Canada so whats to say I will receive any of these updates?
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Well if your DVP is factory unlocked, you'll probably get any updates made available. I had a factory unlocked version and no issues upgrading all the way to 8107. Not so fortunate with my TMO unlocked version though. Had to force the update as I don't have much faith in waiting for TMO after phone has reached EOL with them... and Dell too. Anyways, last I read about 7.8 is that it won't go through carriers but who really knows...
Also in Canada BTW :highfive:

I think they're always going to TALK to the carriers about the updates, if for no other reason than to make sure their preloaded apps will run as expected, but I think from 7.8 and on the update schedule will be primarily dictated by when each manufacturer's hardware guys finish testing.
The 7.8 update is going to be delivered in exactly the same way as all previous updates, but after that all future updates will be delivered over wifi, and irrespective which carrier you're on. I kind of feel like 7.8 will be the last update for Windows CE handsets, but at least they're leaving it open

I contacted Dell Care about this, and according to their reply they are unsure whether we will receive any of these updates including Windows Tango Refresh 7.5 or 7.8
=/

aleunge said:
Well if your DVP is factory unlocked, you'll probably get any updates made available. I had a factory unlocked version and no issues upgrading all the way to 8107. Not so fortunate with my TMO unlocked version though. Had to force the update as I don't have much faith in waiting for TMO after phone has reached EOL with them... and Dell too. Anyways, last I read about 7.8 is that it won't go through carriers but who really knows...
Also in Canada BTW :highfive:
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Please can you send me the step by step instructions so I can force the update on my venue pro too!

All the info you need should be in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497142

upgrading to TANGO with Zune...
DVP 16 GB No-Brand Italy
Updated done! no problem...
tethering NOT present, I hoped because with Tango it is introduced in Nokia Lumia 800...

And for peeps like me without a non-branded DVP, here's for sending them cabs to force update to Tango:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736993

No update for me yet and I have an unbranded AT&T compatible version.

OOps my bad. Repeat post. Please delete mods. :silly:

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No update for me yet and I have an unbranded AT&T compatible version.
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To be clear, when we say "unbranded" are we talking about a phone without a logo on it? Or a phone that doesn't come with the AT&T apps that install at the last stage of setup? I don't think any of the DVPs had a logo on them, and to my understanding, if the phone was ever locked to a carrier, you have to abide by that carrier's update schedule (*excluding hacks of course.)
Is that wrong?

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To be clear, when we say "unbranded" are we talking about a phone without a logo on it? Or a phone that doesn't come with the AT&T apps that install at the last stage of setup? I don't think any of the DVPs had a logo on them, and to my understanding, if the phone was ever locked to a carrier, you have to abide by that carrier's update schedule (*excluding hacks of course.)
Is that wrong?
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Yeah no AT&T apps, not sold subsidized, 16GB unlocked version with AT&T compatible bands. I was able to get the Mango update right away by doing the network disconnection trick.
I think I'll just send the cabs over.

The only physically branded devices dell made recently was the Streak7 on tmo, besides that they never had any external markings or even a custom carrier box.
(The S7 had a single tmo label on the back and that was it)
The rest is more or less correct though, carrier branded = carrier apps + carrier schedule.
Tmo initally had a good relationship with dell (launch partners for the S7 and VP) but then it went south and they blocked the HC update for the S7 and 7740+ for the VP.

zorroz said:
upgrading to TANGO with Zune...
DVP 16 GB No-Brand Italy
Updated done! no problem...
tethering NOT present, I hoped because with Tango it is introduced in Nokia Lumia 800...
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no go for me i had an unlocked one from dell direct, no tango =(

I sent the cabs using cabsender. Worked fine.