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Will I Have G1 Problems?

I'm about to buy the G1 and unlock it for AT&T, so my questions are. Is this the right site where I unlock my G1? http://www.unlock-tmobileg1.com/EN/unlock-code-G1.php?setCurrency=USD. Since AT&T and T-Mo have different bands will Edge and 3G work? And lastly when the new "cupcake" update comes out, since my phone is unlock can i just update and not have to worry?
Thanks

Edge will work but AT&T uses a different 3G frequency than T-Mo so you'll have no 3G. Since updates are pushed out by T-Mo I kinda doubt you'll get them if you're on the AT&T network but I could be wrong. If/when there is a cupcake release I'm sure it'll be made available here at XDA for manual installation. I got my unlock code directly from T-Mo so I can't vouch for any 3rd party sites but I know they're available on eBay for $16.99 and up.

Can anyone else tell me if the OTA updates will go to my phone if on AT&T and if it does will it mess up my unlock?

OTA updates will not affect simlock state. No clue whether G1 users on ATT will get OTA updates, but my guess is yes. You can still manually apply updates from sdcard as well.

jashsu said:
OTA updates will not affect simlock state. No clue whether G1 users on ATT will get OTA updates, but my guess is yes. You can still manually apply updates from sdcard as well.
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Does that mean i have to "Root" my phone?

xSNOWCAT said:
Does that mean i have to "Root" my phone?
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Nope. Anyone can install signed updates from sdcard.

Thanks, so now that i know my unlock won't get messed up and can update whenever, that makes me happy.

To Unlock your phone you can call T-Mobile and have them do it free.
Don't Use Pay Sites, It Is A Ripoff

You have to be a T-Mobile customer for at least a given amount of time, i thought, since if you are not up-to-date with your payments, they wont send you an unlock code.

That is only for those that are on contract. If you are not on contract tell them you bought the phone outright and that you would like the unlock code immediatly.

Samsung Focus getting NoDo pushed out … by Rogers Canada

WMPoweruser says Rogers in Canada is pushing out the NoDo to the Focuses now (http://wmpoweruser.com/samsung-focus-getting-nodo-pushed-out-by-rogers-canada/). Is anyone here on Rogers and getting the update?

Nothing for me in Vancouver yet...

Did you try looking for the update in Zune? Looks like in the comments nobody got the message on the phone yet but Zune found it.

Would be interesting to see the firmware/radio/etc numbers after a Rogers update.

Hey Guys,
I got the Rogers Focus update on my phone today. I'm currently on Fido and since the update the roaming triangle is now showing on my phone. Prior to the update, this was not an issue.
Anybody else having the same problem? I don't want to get charged roaming fees for no reason
Thanks

What's the firmware version after update?
Not the OS version, but the firmware version.

malik2k1 said:
Hey Guys,
I got the Rogers Focus update on my phone today. I'm currently on Fido and since the update the roaming triangle is now showing on my phone. Prior to the update, this was not an issue.
Anybody else having the same problem? I don't want to get charged roaming fees for no reason
Thanks
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I get the same triangle & had to allow data roaming, for data to work. I don't think we're getting charged for roaming, just that Fido uses the Rogers network so to the phone it's roaming. I remember WM5 & 6 had the triangle when SIM unlocked & using Fido.

Yep - tried through Zune, but nothing yet...

I'm on FIDO too... nothing so far. Got the pre-update a few weeks back, but No Donuts for me yet.

Yeah, I was wondering what the firmwares are too.

Yes.. Firmware version's please. I'm wondering if there is a difference between my "hacked" NoDo update and the official one.

Got the update too, but having the roaming triangle too since the update... and you have to activate the option of enabling the data even while roaming to ensure data is on...

NoDo FiDo
I have the roaming triangle too!

BananaChipz said:
Yes.. Firmware version's please. I'm wondering if there is a difference between my "hacked" NoDo update and the official one.
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2124.10.12.2

no nodo update for me. but then again im trying through the zune software in new delhi. will try again once back in montreal on sunday.
samsung focus locked to rogers

tekbrain said:
2124.10.12.2
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Yep.. different.. mine is 2124.10.10.2
I backed it out using the restore point, but the update isn't advertising in Zune. I wonder if I have to put the carrier reg entry back (can't remember what it was!! yikes!)

BananaChipz said:
Yep.. different.. mine is 2124.10.10.2
I backed it out using the restore point, but the update isn't advertising in Zune. I wonder if I have to put the carrier reg entry back (can't remember what it was!! yikes!)
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It is 000-88.

Hey,
Rogers users might want to plug their phones back into Zune and see if you get a firmware update after the NoDo update:http://wpcentral.com/samsung-focus-rogers-bell-getting-firmware-update. Then let us know; if you don't mind. Thanks

It was reported today that rogers will be getting separate firmware updates for the focus.
That means Att will probably follow suit. I hope these firmware changes dont take things away from us that we already have. On the other hand maybe they will help other issues.
I am thinking about de branding my ATT focus to check for these firmware updates but want someone else to be the guinea pig. LOL
HAHA, The guy above beat me to it.

TOA Duck said:
I am thinking about de branding my ATT focus to check for these firmware updates but want someone else to be the guinea pig. LOL
HAHA, The guy above beat me to it.
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HAHA. I was going to say WPCentral said they tried to get the firmwares but couldn't. I bet if you put in Rogers branding instead of ATT-US you would might get it. Anyone know what that is?
Unless ATT has proprietary firmwares on their Focuses?!?!

Unlocked S8 US

Anyone know why Samsung takes so long to update the unlocked version? Is it due to compatability with all carriers and need to push carrier updates to get approved then they can push update to unlocked?

I'd imagine one reason is that they sell far fewer units for the unlocked versions.

I believe it is for security reasons. Easier to push out updates with errors that you can't exploit because of it being locked. Then having to make sure updates for the unlocked versions are more secure

I doubt it has anything to do with carrier compatibility, because I know that Samsung is not certifying the unlocked S8 for ATT. That is why the unlocked one cannot get VoLTE on ATT. There are very few unlocked devices that ATT certified for their network (HTC A9 comes to mind) and get on VoLTE. Verizon is not too far from this.
So, if we scratch carrier certification (because Samsung is not doing it), who knows what kind of contractual barrier with carriers is preventing them from updating the unlocked S8 and S8+. I guess similar contractual barrier that is preventing Sony selling their unlocked models with enabled fingerprint readers.

Got it. Well it finally received its first update this morning.

BlackKnight23 said:
Got it. Well it finally received its first update this morning.
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I updated this couple days ago

paullu said:
I updated this couple days ago
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Unlocked US S8? Ive been checking and this morning was available for me.

BlackKnight23 said:
Unlocked US S8? Ive been checking and this morning was available for me.
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Unlock my s8 is like pine in my ass
Still waiting for T-Mobile to sim unlock.
T-Mobile customer service **** up! From may twenty something I started try call T-Mobile to unlock but still .........

paullu said:
Unlock my s8 is like pine in my ass
Still waiting for T-Mobile to sim unlock.
T-Mobile customer service **** up! From may twenty something I started try call T-Mobile to unlock but still .........
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Ok that's the difference. You have a T-Mobile version that got a similar update except from what I had read it is May security patch. I actually have a factory unlocked S8 that isn't from any carrier. It got the update with June security patch

http://www.droid-life.com/2017/06/12/unlocked-verizon-galaxy-s8-updates/

Unlocked S8 Oreo Update

Has anyone with an unlocked S8 (US) received the Oreo ota yet?
Ive always had Verizon branded Galaxy / Android phones in the past so I am not as familiar with the unlocked ota process. Do unlocked Galaxy phones typically receive ota updates last?

I have a Tmo device on U1(unlocked) firmware and haven't received the update yet. It's somewhat annoying that both Vzw and Tmo got oreo before the unlocked.
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Unlocked variants are usually the last ones to get the updates

:laugh: just got it..MetroPCS unlocked S8.

aftab565 said:
[emoji23] just got it..MetroPCS unlocked S8.
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That is not the unlocked variant. If it is it has been flashed with SM-G950U firmware for MetroPCS. Your phone might be unlocked but the OP was asking about the SM-G950U1.
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adj998 said:
Unlocked variants are usually the last ones to get the updates
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Why is unlocked variant last to get updates? No carrier bloat to update, so technically it should be first.

bocondo said:
Why is unlocked variant last to get updates? No carrier bloat to update, so technically it should be first.
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Unfortunately that's just how it's is, hence why Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint have the official Oreo update including the exynos variant. As for unlocked variants they'll eventually get it, but you'll probably get Oreo root faster than your official update. Or if you're impatient just grab an Oreo beta and work with that.

My Verizon s8+ that I use my tmobile sim got it yesterday. It changed the Verizon boot logo to tmobile. No more Verizon bloatware.

They said the U1 beta testers would be the first to get it too and that didn't happen.

Who ultimately pushes the ota for unlocked phones? Is it the manufacturer (Samsung) or the carrier that you're using the phone on?
If it is the carrier, then I suppose it makes sense that they would prioritize their locked variants first.

Waiting for Oreo OTA
Re: They said the U1 beta testers would be the first to get it too and that didn't happen.
Yes. It's taking a great deal of patience. Samsung seems to have appreciated our feedback as beta testers and then led us out to pasture and left is behind. I think I'm running a Jan 16 beta build and have been waiting...

What software version are you guys on? I am still on nougat 7.0. Are they going to push out 8.0 and skipping 7.1?

Androidsssssss said:
What software version are you guys on? I am still on nougat 7.0. Are they going to push out 8.0 and skipping 7.1?
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Here in the states, my SM-G950U updated to Oreo v8.0.0 from v7.0 yesterday afternoon (March 20). Samsung Experience v9.0, Build number is R16NW.G950USQU2CRB9.
Security patch level is 1 Feb, 2018.

bocondo said:
Why is unlocked variant last to get updates? No carrier bloat to update, so technically it should be first.
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I was told that the unlocked variant needs all US carriers to sign off on it before they can send it out.

I'm running beta Oreo for U1. Still no update. I wouldn't mind so much if the lockscreen didn't interfere with listening to music, the music gets slow, choppy, distorted sounds when the lock screen turns off my display. Can't listen to music in my car, it's so annoying. Wish they'd expedite the update like now. They basically jacked my radio with that bug. lol

caseyatbt said:
I was told that the unlocked variant needs all US carriers to sign off on it before they can send it out.
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no that's bull****. that defeats the entire purpose of getting an unlocked phone.

The unbranded and unlocked version must work with both GSM and CDMA networks. They also must work with the carriers features like, WiFi calling, call waiting, etc. If I understand this correctly, they will require some form of carriers' certifications. Therefore unlocked phones will face delays from both Samsung and the carriers. I made a mistake of not believing former owners and publications about slow updates when I bought my S8 from Samsung. I have since corrected my mistake and bought a Pixel 2. You'll have to adjust to a plain Jane Android but you must give up something to get the timely OS updates from Google.
I am now fully convinced that Samsung will never change and Samsung phone owners who are dissatisfied with the unlocked OS updates can buy phones other than Samsung. Sony seems to be serious with the US market with their new Xperia XZ2.Sony's OS is as close to plain Android and their updates are not bad. My 2-yr old Xperia X has been on Oreo 8.0 for awhile now. Essential can be a player too.
Do yourself a favor. Stay away from Samsung if your priority is timely OS update.

If they let Snapdragon Users unlock bootloaders this was not a problem. May they will let us do that or some one will find an exploit i mean, yo can unlock bootloader on china snapdragon s8. #IWillBuyMyGalaxyS10WithExynos

gingson said:
The unbranded and unlocked version must work with both GSM and CDMA networks. They also must work with the carriers features like, WiFi calling, call waiting, etc.
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Well I hope this is true for Oreo, but I doubt. The 7.0 the unbranded fw for at&t doesn't even allow VoLTE or WiFi calling out of the box.

Not sure about ATT but Oreo works on those features from T-Mobile. By the way I failed to mention that I am on Oreo Beta in my unlocked S8 which I used with Tmo.

Telus / Koodo updates

I always got updates bas quick as Essential released them.
June Telus listed the PH1 as EOL (end of life) and pulled all products from their store.
Now I have yet to receive the July update. Anyone else?
Is this how Telus decides to do things? As soon as a device is EOL ignore it and pull out the "we have to run extensive tests to make sure the manufacturer's update is compatible with our network and systems" excuse to hold up updates (ie, ignore the device) to get you to "upgrade".
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Pull out the SIM, restart, and check for an update. You should get the update direct from Essential. I use a Telus device, albeit with Bell and everything has been smooth sailing when it comes to updates.
As for the carriers in Canada I think we can all agree that their best name is Robellus.

Already tried that.
I suppose it will show eventually.
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The same here, no July updates on stock 8.1 / Koodo. Makes me think to ask for refund

So your phones are not unlocked eg they are locked to a carrier?

All Canadian phones are unlocked.
Telus was the only carrier (and it's subbrand Koodoo) that sold the Essential so Essential lets them handle the updates.
Usually, in Canada, when you place a sim card in it is "provisioned" for that carrier. The updates are then handled by that carrier.
For example, my HTC U11+ (a phone not carried by Telus) needs to he on Wifi to get an update notification.
Hence the "take the sim card out" suggestion.
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Well that is unfortunate.

jmitr said:
I always got updates bas quick as Essential released them.
June Telus listed the PH1 as EOL (end of life) and pulled all products from their store.
Now I have yet to receive the July update. Anyone else?
Is this how Telus decides to do things? As soon as a device is EOL ignore it and pull out the "we have to run extensive tests to make sure the manufacturer's update is compatible with our network and systems" excuse to hold up updates (ie, ignore the device) to get you to "upgrade".
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Put in a sim from another carrier to get the update. I have a chatter sim I use for the purpose.

I know we did the Sim swap thing on Motorola devices and it worked fine.

Well that would work if I had a sim from another carrier!
Might be worth buying a prepaid sim for that purpose though.
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jmitr said:
Well that would work if I had a sim from another carrier!
Might be worth buying a prepaid sim for that purpose though.
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You don't need an active SIM, just any other SIM.

That's what most people do.

Finally got "P' pushed by Koodo today. 1047M update to .091 build.