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First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...

Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.

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Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
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Here you go: GSM/GPRS/EDGE Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA/UMTS Dual-Band: 850/1900 MHz
Best choice I think would be ATT for the 850 band (I think ATT is on 850?) It will work on Tmobile, but I'm not sure you would have 3G. Obviously being from Canada I'm not as familiar with their spectrums, but I'm sure someone else can confirm.

Same form factor as my HTC Ion.
It will have AT&T 3G since Rogers uses the same bands (850 and 1900).
T-Mobile customers have to wait until the Magic to be launched here in the States.

froesei said:
First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
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Sweet. Just ordered mine on-line, a little disappointing they only had the Black Magic to choose from.
Congrats!

So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?

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So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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Only available in Canada but you could probably find them on eBay or howardforums B/S/T.

Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?

redrazr7791 said:
Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
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I THINK, but don't quote me on this, that if you root the device you should be able to use it on other networks that use the same frequencies. I'm happy to be corrected if that's not the case...

Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL

redrazr7791 said:
Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Just wait... THere will be enterprising ppl to figure out how to unlock it.

Yea I found two websites that sell the unlocked Vodafone version, IMPORTGSM.com and Timtechs.com but do not know how "GOOD" they are. I also just got an email from Rogers.com stating that their phones do come "locked"....ugh T-mobile USA needs to get on this phone already lol.

T-Mobile will release this within the next 3 weeks (end of June or early July). If you want to take advantage of T-Mobile US 3G, wait for the T-Mobile US version or get the Google Ion.
The Rogers HTC Magic is perfect for AT&T users since it has AT&T 3G bands.

Thanks backviet, read your answer over on howards also. I guess i will just have to wait, like you mentioned.....dang!

Yeah, just got mine as well. Things are looking good so far. Only bad spot is, is the exchange activesync that apparently doesnt work (not sure if it's some sort of extension that is needed...there's not much info on it). Anyone else get a problem synching up exchange and getting a "Failed to create the account" Error?
Going to try to solve that later today...

that's strange...i work at a rogers store and as i was playing with a magic today, and i had no problem connecting to our exchange server. you would think that both are running the same software so exchange support would be the same.
we're sold out of magic's so i won't be able to try it out till we get more.
i'm actually thinking about picking one up as well, although i'm not 100% sold on it, it's def. a much nicer device than the dream, at least imo.

Multimedia
Hey guys, just picked up my Magic yesturday from Rogers and loving it. So much fun. Now I am wondering how do we upload pictures and music and videos onto our phone? I plugged it to my PC but unable to access the MicroSD card. Is there a program manager that needs to be downloaded first? Thanks

How do you Root the Rogers ones ?

DarknessTM said:
How do you Root the Rogers ones ?
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you cant just yet

Got myself one two days ago when it came, its pretty good... only problem i had was the wifi kept hanging a simple Settings -> Wifi -> menu -> advance > wifi sleep policy to "never" fixed it.... other than that its pretty good i plan to start some development on the android platform

Is the Rogers magic the right one for me?

Hello everyone, Ive been a long time reader of xda, have an htc advantage, htc touch dual, and an htc wing. I have flashed more roms to my advantage than i could ever remember, sadly I forgot my old username so here I am with a new one
Lately I have only been using my advantage as a bedside alarm clock, and I want to try Android. I prefer the body lines of the hero, but I would like the future option of using 3g. I am in Alaska and using tmobile. I would like to switch to ATT at some point in the future, and currently there is NO 3g service where i am in alaska with either providers. From what I can tell, the Rogers version of the magic is hands down the one to get if you want to run the hero rom. Ive read many posts that say it lags with the 192mb versions. I also want to get as full of a google experience as possible...OTA updates, Access to the Android Marketplace, google maps etc. Can anyone confirm that if I purchased an unlocked rogers magic off ebay, would I be able to get OTA updates over an edge connection in the USA? I do believe that the rogers magic should have the bands to work with ATT 3g right? As I said, there is no 3g service here, but when i switch to ATT later, and travel I would like to utilize the 3g. Just looking for some insight on what will more than likely be my next phone. Planning on purchasing tonight if we can come up with some answers!

The Rogers Magic will run on AT&T but not on T-MO.
You get access to the Market but not paid apps, you'll have to root to get full access.
You wont get OTA updates from Rogers, I'm a customer and they told me no go on OS updates. Have to contact HTC for that, but if your rooted does it matter?
Flash the latest/greatest ROM.
Clinton

ok well The Rogers has the 288MB you want:
and it also works on tmobile edge but on 3G however it works on att edge/3G. so if your thinking of swicthing over to att than this is the phone for you.

Ok, so if I root the phone, then I would have complete access to the android market? If purchasing an unlocked Rogers Magic, do i need to worry about getting one of the "perfect spl"s that isnt rootable yet, or is that only an issue for other versions?

Yep you'll have full access if you install "Market Enabler" after you root. I have not heard of any Rogers Magic haveing the "perfect SPL" I think so far it's only for the MyTouch and Hero.
Clinton

ClintonH is correct all available Roger Magics in the market are rootable.

Awesome, thanks for the great information. Looks like I will be purchasing one from ebay this weekend, unless you guys can recommend any reputable online shops to order from. I'll be just using the edge connection on it for a little while until i figure out how im going to get outta my tmobile contract...I currently have two active numbers under my contract with tmobile Not in much of a hurry though as i'll only be able to utilize the 3g when im travelling.

I actually have one fs on Ebay right now. Check out dgravo27 . It is the Rogers version.

Looks like yours isnt for sale anymore Dgravo, I just bought it! Too many other ones listed with 288 mb ram, however, they have the vodaphone logo and I dont think half the sellers even know whats inside their phones.

Hero for Sprint

Does anyone know if the proccess for rooting a GSM hero will work on rooting the sprint version of the hero when it comes out?
Trying to decide between the unlocked GSM version keeping AT&T and only having edge or dropping AT&T and picking up the hero on sprint on the 11th.
Thanks

Did you ever get an answer. I can't believe that all these sprint users have not came up with something yet. I can't find it
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Does anyone know if the proccess for rooting a GSM hero will work on rooting the sprint version of the hero when it comes out?
Trying to decide between the unlocked GSM version keeping AT&T and only having edge or dropping AT&T and picking up the hero on sprint on the 11th.
Thanks
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From everything Ive read online...the process is completely different and you're at risk of bricking your phone.
That said, I haven't tried it and could be wrong.
But everything Ive read says you can't do it at the moment.

Theres been many questions and posts about this. The answer is no...you cant root the cdma yet...i cant wait until we can though. Our phone is still very new

First in the usa to have the t9193 hd2. Ask away.

I am almost certain I am the very first in the entire country to have the Telstra Version of the hd2 with incredibly fast 3g on AT&T 3G HSDPA and this thing is like a rocket ship. Will post photos shortly and received at 8:30 a.m. C.S.T. Thanks, Kevin

Can't be bothered.

Did you order it online?

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Did you order it online?
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No, I have a good friend in Australia who I met on eBay when I also purchased the Touch HD T8285 who was nice enough to pick this up for me last week and even before they went on sale. JB HIFI had them a limited amount on sale at their stores and Serkan my friend literally got me the last one available in the entire country this past Friday. Would have had yesterday but custom's held it for 24 hrs.

Are you using the Telstra ROM or did you hardspl and put another ROM on? Also, if you are using the Telstra ROM, what does it come with and does it limit you on at&t? In other words, does it have the youtube app and does it work properly and does the MMS for at&t work along with IE & Opera browers? Wondering if there is a proxy issue or not with Telstra ROM. Congrats on the HD2 on at&t. I will have mine on Friday!

I'm a Canadian -- Telus customer -- and I'll be tacking up this honour on the Canadian side on Saturday when I return from vacation with my freshly-purchased Telstra HTC HD2 in-hand.

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Wondering if there is a proxy issue or not with Telstra ROM.
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I had some sort of issue using the Telstra ROM for data on Vodafone AU (I have a pre-paid SIM with them while I'm down here).
Once I HSPL'd and flashed a custom ROM (highly recommended!) it was fine.
Interesting: The box the phone came in says "T9193" but the device identifies to ActiveSync as "T8585".

Mine will be here friday morning FEDX....
friday night will be flashing a new rom.
cant wait.

Spike15 said:
I had some sort of issue using the Telstra ROM for data on Vodafone AU (I have a pre-paid SIM with them while I'm down here).
Once I HSPL'd and flashed a custom ROM (highly recommended!) it was fine.
Interesting: The box the phone came in says "T9193" but the device identifies to ActiveSync as "T8585".
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It does that after you put a custom ROM on. I was wondering the same thing on previous phones I have had after I put on another ROM.

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Are you using the Telstra ROM or did you hardspl and put another ROM on? Also, if you are using the Telstra ROM, what does it come with and does it limit you on at&t? In other words, does it have the youtube app and does it work properly and does the MMS for at&t work along with IE & Opera browers? Wondering if there is a proxy issue or not with Telstra ROM. Congrats on the HD2 on at&t. I will have mine on Friday!
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I am quite busy today yet will promise to answer all questions and post many photos this evening. fyi, the reason active sync says t8585 is because it will only say t9193 if you have the telstra rom on there otherwise once hspled and flash a new rom it changes. Odd. 2. mine is already hspled with the best rom for this device in my humble opinion dutty's. his roms are always the fastest, close to the htc stock rom's without alot of unnecessary apps, and most consistent out there. kevin

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I am quite busy today yet will promise to answer all questions and post many photos this evening. fyi, the reason active sync says t8585 is because it will only say t9193 if you have the telstra rom on there otherwise once hspled and flash a new rom it changes. Odd. 2. mine is already hspled with the best rom for this device in my humble opinion dutty's. his roms are always the fastest, close to the htc stock rom's without alot of unnecessary apps, and most consistent out there. kevin
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Cool, can't wait to hear tonight. Did you try to see what worked or did'nt work with the Telstra ROM on it on at&t? Just wondering. Thanks.

kevinrirvine said:
I am quite busy today yet will promise to answer all questions and post many photos this evening. fyi, the reason active sync says t8585 is because it will only say t9193 if you have the telstra rom on there otherwise once hspled and flash a new rom it changes. Odd. 2. mine is already hspled with the best rom for this device in my humble opinion dutty's. his roms are always the fastest, close to the htc stock rom's without alot of unnecessary apps, and most consistent out there. kevin
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Looking forward to some pics.
Still waiting on PersonalDigital to send me my FedEx confirm...

kevinrirvine said:
I am quite busy today yet will promise to answer all questions and post many photos this evening. fyi, the reason active sync says t8585 is because it will only say t9193 if you have the telstra rom on there otherwise once hspled and flash a new rom it changes. Odd. 2. mine is already hspled with the best rom for this device in my humble opinion dutty's. his roms are always the fastest, close to the htc stock rom's without alot of unnecessary apps, and most consistent out there. kevin
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I would agree... Hey, did Dutty take his rom down..? Can't find the download link. I know he was NOT doing .1922 anymore because of issues.

any SMS lag?

So, how it's going!!!
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I am almost certain I am the very first in the entire country to have the Telstra Version of the hd2 with incredibly fast 3g on AT&T 3G HSDPA and this thing is like a rocket ship. Will post photos shortly and received at 8:30 a.m. C.S.T. Thanks, Kevin
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Can't wait your photos and impressions. Can you tell me about this:
1-How is the speed in 3G, can you measure it?
2-ROM version (original from Telstra and witch is the one you flashed)
3-What you can't do that you should do
4-SMS delay
5-Did your phone detect the AT&T network in the moment you turn it on with the AT&T sim?
6-Anything else that you consider important
Also, where I can find the best tutorial to flash an HD2, something made for "Dummies"
Thanks

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Can't wait your photos and impressions. Can you tell me about this:
1-How is the speed in 3G, can you measure it?
2-ROM version (original from Telstra and witch is the one you flashed)
3-What you can't do that you should do
4-SMS delay
5-Did your phone detect the AT&T network in the moment you turn it on with the AT&T sim?
6-Anything else that you consider important
Also, where I can find the best tutorial to flash an HD2, something made for "Dummies"
Thanks
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Photos forthcoming and apologies again to all for no update last night:
1. SMS AND MMS works just fine but you must have the telstra radio 2.61 installed or it does not work at all. No lag whatsoever.
2. Telstra ROM appeared from only having it on my device for like 30 minutes to have all the features that the uk version had which I also owned from day one till this past weekend.
3. Telstra ROM like with the touch hd t8285 is completely unusable in that you can't do anything with it like say internet for everything is configured for that network and the internet settings cannot be changed or hacked. Yes, it detected my at&t sim immediately and the big H showed up on the phone.

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Also, where I can find the best tutorial to flash an HD2, something made for "Dummies"
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Read the stickies in "ROM Development".

kevinrirvine said:
I am almost certain I am the very first in the entire country to have the Telstra Version of the hd2 with incredibly fast 3g on AT&T 3G HSDPA and this thing is like a rocket ship. Will post photos shortly and received at 8:30 a.m. C.S.T. Thanks, Kevin
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Man i'm jealous....i just ordered mine yesterday, they say I should have it by next friday. I initially bought the Euro model but changed my mind and returned it!!

are there any places already selling the T9193 shipping to the united states? i was waiting for the t-mobile version, but with the telstra release... why wait!!

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i was waiting for the t-mobile version
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Well the T-Mobile version has weird UMTS bands, so unless you're on T-Mobile it'll be useless to you.

Virgin mobile legend not getting update.

http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/95/t/3518.aspx?PageIndex=3
So for those like me who purchased a virgin mobile legend we won't get it. Not sure what to do then.
Although it is a virgin phone, all I did to it was unlock it to use with Rogers. What should I do?
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i have a virgin legend too so am in the same boat...not really surprised that virgin is not coming out with the update - welcome to canada
i really want to flash the unbranded froyo rom that came out today but unfortunately it doesnt look like its possible now...
until we can change our cid's or have a resigned ROM with our cid (BM___001) we would have to root and go with cyanogen 6.1 or another custom rom (not my 1st choice)..
if anyone has a workaround please help us out...thanks in advance

Well I wouldn't mind trying a few ROM's, but I'm a complete join with this stuff. I suppose I need to learn now...
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I bought a Legend from Virgin mobile in August. I became tired of their games and recently purchased a sim card from Bell and put it in the Legend. Guess what? It worked no problem. I can tell you I never unlocked my phone. The Virgin Legend did not have any Virgin mobile software or wigets in them. The only place I saw the word Virgin mobile, was in the network operators list, (mobile network settings), and in network operator name,(about phone, settings). These changed from Virgin, to Bell when I put the Bell sim in. I am now wondering if my phone is still branded to Virgin. If it is not, I would suggest to the OP that you terminate your account with Virgin on the basis that they ended your upgrade path, then take your phone over to Bell, or maybe even Rogers. that said, how do we know that rogers would care to license an OTA upgrade for a phone they never sold? At least Bell sold the phone for a few months.

I got my phone from Virgin as well and I am using the modaco stock froyo rom. It is basically stock except it's rooted. The experience will be exactly the same (unlike using other custom roms) Trying to make the new ruu work on a Virgin phone is probably not gonna be much simpler than rooting, so you may as well go the rooting route.

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I got my phone from Virgin as well and I am using the modaco stock froyo rom. It is basically stock except it's rooted. The experience will be exactly the same (unlike using other custom roms) Trying to make the new ruu work on a Virgin phone is probably not gonna be much simpler than rooting, so you may as well go the rooting route.
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so the modaco stock froyo rom is based on the htc unbranded rom that was released today? do you have a link?
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I bought a Legend from Virgin mobile in August. I became tired of their games and recently purchased a sim card from Bell and put it in the Legend. Guess what? It worked no problem. I can tell you I never unlocked my phone. The Virgin Legend did not have any Virgin mobile software or wigets in them. The only place I saw the word Virgin mobile, was in the network operators list, (mobile network settings), and in network operator name,(about phone, settings). These changed from Virgin, to Bell when I put the Bell sim in. I am now wondering if my phone is still branded to Virgin. If it is not, I would suggest to the OP that you terminate your account with Virgin on the basis that they ended your upgrade path, then take your phone over to Bell, or maybe even Rogers. that said, how do we know that rogers would care to license an OTA upgrade for a phone they never sold? At least Bell sold the phone for a few months.
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you realize bell=virgin right? bell discontinued the legend so you wont see an update from them either...

Not so my friend. Check out post #14
http://mobilesyrup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3928

I figured they (virgin or bell) would either do it really late or not at all. So I debranded it, but got the same error as in the other threads during the upgrade.
Then I decided to try CM 6.1, and the only thing i regret is not trying it sooner. Never going back to sense again, CM is cleaner, faster, with lots more options.

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so the modaco stock froyo rom is based on the htc unbranded rom that was released today? do you have a link?
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It's based on the vodafone rom that came out couple weeks ago but there is nothing about vodafone in it (no logo nor junk app). It should be identical to the one that came out today (at least from the end-user point of view anyway)
Here is the link:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...o-rom-for-the-htc-legend-with-online-kitchen/

You guys really need to stop emailing unknowledgable "support staff" and wait for official announcements like this one from the Virgin Mobile Canada twitter feed:
"android update! we'll be offering android 2.2 froyo update for htc legend in mid-january. stay tuned for details."
Looks like official Froyo for our Legends after all!

couldnt possibly wait until jan and dont want any bell stuff on my legend so installed the official htc unbranded froyo rom....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9764446#post9764446

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couldnt possibly wait until jan and dont want any bell stuff on my legend so installed the official htc unbranded froyo rom....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9764446#post9764446
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Yeah, I couldn't wait either and put Cyanogenmod on my Legend. My wife will be getting the Virgin update when it's available

Hey guys!
Just to be sure, is Virgin Mobile software version the same as the Bell one?
If so, that means if Virgin get the update, us with a Bell phone will get it to?

Virgin announced the Vibrant's update, and it was rolled out to Virgin, Bell and Sasktel so I assume so yes.
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