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Hey everyone quick question. If a T-mobile customer in the U.S. were to order an unlocked magic branded with the Vodafone logo, could they still update the phone and such when the U.S. version hits in July. Say that U.S. T-mobile has sent out an update for their phone, could the person who has the Vodafone version update as well? I am debating about ordering an unlocked magic from Timtechs.com to use here in the U.S. and was wondering what were the possible drawbacks, besides 3G, that I may face.
For the same price (or less actually) as the vodaphone imports you can get one of the Google ION phones off of ebay if you're looking for something a little more interesting.
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
I have debated on ordering one, but am afraid of possibly receiving just a box lol. Actually the area of texas i live at doesn't have 3G yet, I am always running the E - EDGE network so it really doesn't bother me.
sherifone said:
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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Got one for $400 practically new. Camera is decent but no AF and flash suck ball.
or get the one of the ones Rogers is releasing tomorrow in Canada..
Well, would it be the same version that the U.S. should be getting? if i could find a good canadian website that would ship to the U.S. I may be looking into this lol.
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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No since it has different 3G radio.
Rogers version will work since it has the same 3G bands as AT&T (850 and 1900).
Hey, wait....so since it has the same bands as AT&T...would that be the same as T-Mobile? Any one know a good canadian retailer who ships to the U.S.?
It has been confirmed that the HTC hero will be coming to US, but the question now is, WHEN and How much? I am certinaly in for one, after they speedup the firmware. There are too many issues with the lag at the moment to warrant a purchase.
Who else is looking forward for this release??
Details Here:
http://android-simplicity.blogspot.com/2009/08/now-usa-can-get-hero-too.html
it should be on tmobile
It looks like it's coming to sprint and AT&T, T-mob has it in europe already, so them possibly too.
I'm holding back my purchase just to see if i can has 3g.
http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2009/07/03/htc-hero-approved-by-the-fcc-with-att-3g/
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There are too many issues with the lag at the moment to warrant a purchase.
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Speaking as someone who has one, and uses it daily, I refute that statement!
I really have no particular lag issues.
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Dave
foxmeister said:
Speaking as someone who has one, and uses it daily, I refute that statement!
I really have no particular lag issues.
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Dave
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I agree with it. i think its even more stable than windows mobile but thats for me
I don't think at&t is gonna get this. They only say 850/1900 3g bands and Rogers is the same. I bet you rogers will get it first in north america which is ok by me because then at&t customers can get it with the reduced price for data as at&t will not detect it!
The new Firmware update fixes all the lag... I have modacos 1.4 running based on the leaked update and there is no lag at all and i have finally been able to have all 7 screens filled with widgets... everything now runs smooth...
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I don't think at&t is gonna get this. They only say 850/1900 3g bands and Rogers is the same. I bet you rogers will get it first in north america which is ok by me because then at&t customers can get it with the reduced price for data as at&t will not detect it!
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FCC doesn't operate in canada, so the FCC clearance isnt for there. so if there using 850/1900 on the FCC its def at&t.
HTC Hero coming to Sprint - see here
IMHO, they may call it a Hero, but it's not a Hero!
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Why not call it something else, since it isn't the same device!
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Dave
The HTC Hero will cost $179.99 with a two-year contract and after $150 in rebates when it goes on sale Oct. 11. That's a slightly lower price than Sprint's other flagship smart phones, the Palm Pre and BlackBerry Tour 9630, which both cost $199 after rebates.
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Don't know about you guys but I'm not diggin' the industrial design of this "Hero". Looks like a redesigned Magic than anything else. Wonder if it has the teflon coating of the original Hero?
When they get Wifi Tethering working on the Hero, I'll get one... I need something to play with until wm7 comes out.
That's no Hero! It's more like the Villain!
I need a Hero!
I saw the announcement of Sprint's Hero not 20 minutes ago and it made me sad and disappointed. I HOPE the Hero that was passed through the FCC with AT&T/Rogers bands comes soon and I hope it's the European version.
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I saw the announcement of Sprint's Hero not 20 minutes ago and it made me sad and disappointed. I HOPE the Hero that was passed through the FCC with AT&T/Rogers bands comes soon and I hope it's the European version.
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It was released that sprint has exclusivity on the hero.
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It was released that sprint has exclusivity on the hero.
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Well, hopefully Rogers gets the Euro version and we can buy an unlocked version.
I wouldn't mind that one bit.
Telus has a "Coming Soon" indicator on their site. PdaPlaza has a Silver and Black 32GB unlocked One for an availability date slotted on March 25th for $680 outright. I am not seeing the 700MHz frequency for LTE on the PdaPlaza 32GB phone. Rogers has the same Telus phone for $149.99 on a 3yr contract.
I would love the Developer Edition in Canada. I think I will wait and buy that online with 64GB and LTE.
http://www.pdaplaza.ca/brands/HTC.html
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/htc_one/index.shtml
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wirelessBuyFlow?forwardTo=PhoneThenPlan&productType=normal&productId_Detailed=801AGRY&N=52+11+4294965972
The HTC One is 149.99$ with a 3 years contract on the Rogers website BTW
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...productId_Detailed=801AGRY&N=52+78+4294948360
Disappointing that the Rogers version is only 32GB. I wonder if Telus or AT&T will offer the 64GB at launch. Of course there will be the developer version with 64GB but us Canadians can't order it easily
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Disappointing that the Rogers version is only 32GB. I wonder if Telus or AT&T will offer the 64GB at launch. Of course there will be the developer version with 64GB but us Canadians can't order it easily
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3 Year contract. GASP.
Screw contracts I always end up trading my phones. KIJIJI TIME!!!
I only buy off-contract
Will this phone work on koodo or virgin mobile? I heard virgin mobile will be getting it, but i can't find any information on their site. The reason i am asking is that i am moving back to Canada at the end of March and need to get a phone and phone plan and im looking at koodoo/virgin as they use the telus/bell network and provide the best plans for the buck. Would love to get this phone.
**** Canadian Providers... We get a 20$ discount for the privilege of selling our souls for an extra year.
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Any sightings of the 64 gb?
I haven't seen the 64GB anywhere yet...
Seems Telus and Rogers at least mention the phone. Any word on Bell? I know they are listed as one of the carriers will have it, but any pre-order information or pricing?
I just saw that PDA Plaza states the release of the unlocked One will be available April 4th.
Edit: nevermind.
HTC One on Bell Canada
Kewjoe said:
Seems Telus and Rogers at least mention the phone. Any word on Bell? I know they are listed as one of the carriers will have it, but any pre-order information or pricing?
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A few days ago I called HTC to inquire about the possibility of the One's release on Bell. Sadly the representative told me that Bell was not listed as one of the supported carriers, and although it may change, it isn't too likely. I was told to give it a month to get a solid answer, but for the time being, the phone was listed only for Rogers and Telus.
And Bell again misses out on HTC's best (the previous being the One X)...
If I don't hear otherwise by the time the One is actually released, I will pull the trigger on the unlocked edition =]
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A few days ago I called HTC to inquire about the possibility of the One's release on Bell. Sadly the representative told me that Bell was not listed as one of the supported carriers, and although it may change, it isn't too likely. I was told to give it a month to get a solid answer, but for the time being, the phone was listed only for Rogers and Telus.
And Bell again misses out on HTC's best (the previous being the One X)...
If I don't hear otherwise by the time the One is actually released, I will pull the trigger on the unlocked edition =]
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Pretty sure HTC Canada said it was coming to Rogers, Bell, Virgin and Telus. I know Virgin made a Google+ post with the HTC One in the picture announcing they were going to get it. Here's the post.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/114690734353801784595/posts/6vs4bYArBWQ
Since Virgin Mobile is a subsidiary of Bell Canada, they probably have some loopholes to switch carriers like Rogers had with Fido, where if you sign a new 3 year term with them (Virgin), Bell would wave any early cancellation fees as long as you've been with them for a year or more since, you are essentially resigning with the same company. You'd have to call Bell and find out if that would be an option for you, (providing they actually don't get the HTC One), then you could just get it through Virgin, if Bell allows this. I was able to do this with Rogers when I wanted to switch to Fido.
My guess is that Bell is holding out on announcing new phones until they can clear out old inventory. I expect an announcement next week or the week after.
Wind Mobile
I'm looking to get the developer edition or any unlocked version on-line.
Can anyone confirm if this will work on Wind Mobile with full network functionality/capabilities?
Thanks
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Pretty sure HTC Canada said it was coming to Rogers, Bell, Virgin and Telus. I know Virgin made a Google+ post with the HTC One in the picture announcing they were going to get it. Here's the post.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/114690734353801784595/posts/6vs4bYArBWQ
Since Virgin Mobile is a subsidiary of Bell Canada, they probably have some loopholes to switch carriers like Rogers had with Fido, where if you sign a new 3 year term with them (Virgin), Bell would wave any early cancellation fees as long as you've been with them for a year or more since, you are essentially resigning with the same company. You'd have to call Bell and find out if that would be an option for you, (providing they actually don't get the HTC One), then you could just get it through Virgin, if Bell allows this. I was able to do this with Rogers when I wanted to switch to Fido.
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That sounds like a plan -- just willing to see if Bell wouldn't mind the switch, then I'm all set =]
I did call HTC again today though.. Just to see if they had an update. Funny how Bell wasn't able to confirm Virgin as a carrier -- horrible logistics. They did tell me that if Virgin does end up releasing it and Bell doesn't, I can just buy it outright and use it with Bell (already knew this ofc). But I want a subsidized phone .
Not gonna stop me from getting my hands on that wonder of a phone. Just can't wait for it to hit us here =]
I work for Bell and I can confirm, through HTC's rep, that Bell is getting it. I don't know for sure about Virgin but I would say yes also, maybe with a small delay.
Launch was supposed to be on March 22nd, but there are manufacturing delays and well, no date as of right now.
You guys have any info about the developer edition in Canada ? I'd love to get one of those...
qzcgd said:
I work for Bell and I can confirm, through HTC's rep, that Bell is getting it. I don't know for sure about Virgin but I would say yes also, maybe with a small delay.
Launch was supposed to be on March 22nd, but there are manufacturing delays and well, no date as of right now.
You guys have any info about the developer edition in Canada ? I'd love to get one of those...
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****. That is horrible
I was hoping Virgin Mobile would have this phone next week as i need to signup for a plan next week
twizller said:
****. That is horrible
I was hoping Virgin Mobile would have this phone next week as i need to signup for a plan next week
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Since you always have 14 days to change your mind and take another phone you should be ok
Good day everyone,
I have some bad news, if the info i received is accurate, for people who have purchased the XT1097 from Telus.
I called Telus tech support today asking about any news regarding the lollipop update and the agent told me that the update is due out in the middle of next month - mid January.
I don't know if this means Telus has decided that it is in their customer's "best interest" to wait for a 5.0.1 build to be released but I am pretty disappointed as Telus promises the "fastest software upgrades" on their website when you read about the Moto X.
Jeremie
Jercote said:
Good day everyone,
I have some bad news, if the info i received is accurate, for people who have purchased the XT1097 from Telus.
I called Telus tech support today asking about any news regarding the lollipop update and the agent told me that the update is due out in the middle of next month - mid January.
I don't know if this means Telus has decided that it is in their customer's "best interest" to wait for a 5.0.1 build to be released but I am pretty disappointed as Telus promises the "fastest software upgrades" on their website when you read about the Moto X.
Jeremie
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If only 1 carrier has it in Canada it can still claim to be the fastest when it's dead slow. Ok I know Wind has it now too but I'm not holding my breath on Wind beating Telus to the update.
Yes I bought into that too.... not sure what the implications would be of side loading the Brazil OTA, I think it is still a soak test for now... although it is the same model.
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If only 1 carrier has it in Canada it can still claim to be the fastest when it's dead slow. Ok I know Wind has it now too but I'm not holding my breath on Wind beating Telus to the update.
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Telus has always sucked at giving customers timely updates. They decided not to release the Nexus 6 yet because of the french language bug even though there is a simple work around. They have a decent cell network and pretty good customer service but when it comes to phones they tend to lag behind.
It will be interesting to see when the Wind version gets updated - they are small enough I doubt they have any kind of custom build. They may even use the same build as Telus in the end. I see there is a Canada retail 4.4.4 build you can download, not sure if that is the Telus version or not. It might be one generic build for Canada and then a specific EFS partition hardcoded into the phone before hand for each provider.
Being the XT1095 and XT1097 share the identical hardware it would be nice to be able to unlock the bootloader in the XT1097, flash it as an XT1095 and have it update properly on its own as a Pure version of the phone for the rest of its life. At this point it looks like we can use most of the XT1095 firmware but there is no auto updating without fixing the modem files.
btw - how do you guys find the radio performance of the XT1097 with Telus so far? Coming from a 2013 Moto X I haven't been that impressed. I see my phone lose LTE and then get it back a few seconds later for what appears to be no reason. I could have a defective phone but it looks more like there is a firmware bug of some sort to me.
There are a fair number of people that have taken the XT1095 plunge from XT1097. I have been holding off just because I would like to not have to root the phone and loose the warranty so early in it's life. As far as signal, I would say it is on par or better than my S4. The LTE speed is better but it does switch between H+ and LTE often. The building I work in has never provided optimal reception though. Speed on LTE I have gotten as high as 68 mb/s outside. The S4 in the same location couldn't break 40.
Gage_Hero said:
There are a fair number of people that have taken the XT1095 plunge from XT1097. I have been holding off just because I would like to not have to root the phone and loose the warranty so early in it's life. As far as signal, I would say it is on par or better than my S4. The LTE speed is better but it does switch between H+ and LTE often. The building I work in has never provided optimal reception though. Speed on LTE I have gotten as high as 68 mb/s outside. The S4 in the same location couldn't break 40.
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Saying it is on par with the S4 is not saying that much really. My 2013 Moto X will blow an S4 away 90% of the time in terms of reception. Heck it can receive LTE where an Iphone 5 doesn't think there is any. I've locked my XT-1097 to HSPA today and it doesn't seem to have made much difference to battery life but I am no longer showing any time without a signal. I am not sure about other phones but on a Motorola time without a signal as indicated by the phone does not appear to actually be time with no received signal. It seems to be the time the phone is not using its preferred protocol(LTE normally). So if you drop to HSPA it counts that as time with no signal even though you have one and are registered on the network.
I haven't seen signal drops of any kind today with HSPA only like I do with LTE enabled. The antenna system in the 2014 X might just be more directional then the 2013 model. It is also possible Telus has 700 MHz LTE in the area I work and the phone gets stuck switching between that and band 4 LTE.
It is a shame Motorola removes the radio diagnostic functions. I'd like to know what it is really doing.
I was also hoping to have Lollipop before Christmas so I could see if the phones performance improves at all. If it doesn't then I will probably sell it and go back to my 2013 Moto X. My Nexus 7 2013 running Lollipop is faster/smoother in all respects then my 2014 Moto X yet drives more pixels and has a older/slower processor(in theory anyway, Motorola may be heavily throttling the cores).
even mexico beat us...
Looks like mexico is getting the offical ota now.....
Hurry up please Telus.
Has anyone unlocked their bootloader with the Moto website for it? As a lark I ran the fastboot command to grab my key and dropped it in and, voila! The option to request unlock key popped up. So is that a full green light? I decided not to do it yet since I figure I'd like to still have my waranty. Just thought I would pass that along to those who are braver than I in this case. :silly:
Edit: and now it said it isn't. Bah!!
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Looks like mexico is getting the offical ota now.....
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According to a motorola contact I have the final version for Brazilian retail is rolling out as we speak. No word on carrier versions though.
Sent from my XT1097 using XDA Free mobile app
So can we fastboot and load the mexican ota zip?
Will it work with the telus modem?
If you do it, will you get pushed future telus updates?
Thanks!
In theory, it should work. I have used mexico modem with my s4. But like everything else it is at your own risk. I'm going to get Telus another week before I do anything
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Has anyone unlocked their bootloader with the Moto website for it? As a lark I ran the fastboot command to grab my key and dropped it in and, voila! The option to request unlock key popped up. So is that a full green light? I decided not to do it yet since I figure I'd like to still have my waranty. Just thought I would pass that along to those who are braver than I in this case. :silly:
Edit: and now it said it isn't. Bah!!
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Yep, it unlocks fine, first thing I did when I picked mine up.
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realist123 said:
So can we fastboot and load the mexican ota zip?
Will it work with the telus modem?
If you do it, will you get pushed future telus updates?
Thanks!
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There is another thread here where someone took a twrp backup of the . 5 and .6 release from a pure edition. They restored perfectly on the telus version with out messing with the modem. Could someone do the same with this release?
Looks like Mexico is up to version .17 now... android 5.0 lollipop 22.21.17.en.MX I guess it could be Telus is waiting until the version numbers stop changing but it would be nice to know what the strategy is exactly.....
A little communication would go a long way. Most people don't know or care about updates but for the people like us who want to know and purchased the phone for quick updates, a little bit of info would go a long way. TELUS should communicate better, it would be a win-win for them-us.
I hope all of you with a Telus account harass them non-stop. I am living the budget life with Koodo, so Telus doesn't want to hear from me...
Well I have sent 3 inquires from the website asking for more information but I have yet to get any acknowledgement ..... tried from home and work computer.... anyone else try?
Pics of tonights chat
TELUS support chat.
info: You are now chatting with 'Samantha'
Jeremie: Good evening, I have a question regarding the moto x update to android 5.0
Samantha: Hi Jeremie, thank you for contacting TELUS mobility chat support. I hope you are doing well today!
Jeremie: You as well.
Samantha: I can look at some information for that update.
Jeremie: Great!
Samantha: There actually is not any information about an update at this time.
Jeremie: It is strange since this phone is getting updated currently in the US, Brazil and Mexico. Your website mentions quickest software updates and it is the main reason why I purchased this phone meanwhile everyone else is getting the update but us who purchased froM TELUS.
Jeremie: I know its not your fault but would it be possible to forward my comments to higher ups as I find the wording on your website to be misleading.
Samantha: I totally understand what you are saying. We don't even know about the updates until they actually come out.
Samantha: What you can do if you would like is leave your feedback. There is a "how are we doing" link at the bottom of our home page which will allow you to leave feedback about our website or concerns and that will get to the right people who can handle this request.
Jeremie: OK thanks for your time.
Samantha: No problem! Does that help you for today?
info: Your chat transcript will be sent to ........ at the end of your chat.
Jeremie: Yes have a good evening. Thank you
Samantha: Thanks! You as well!
I will leave my feedback as she suggested.
Here is the feedback I sent them:
On your website, the information provided for the Moto X mentions that the phone gets the quickest software updates. The XT1097 has been updated to android 5.0 in Brazil and Mexico over a week ago and the US XT1095 for almost a month. Even the XT1096 sold at Verizon has been updated almost 3 weeks ago now but still, your agents don't even have a date in sight for when the update will be coming to TELUS Moto X.
The reason I bought this phone was for the quick updates as clearly stated on your website. As you surely know, information in this day and age goes around the globe pretty quickly. If you make a statement like the one made about the speediness of the software updates, you better make sure you're on par with other carriers around the world or it really makes you look bad.
I am not complaining in order to get any sort of compensation but as a long term customer I hope you take my complaint seriously and improve the way you manage software updates.
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info: You are now chatting with 'Samantha'
Jeremie: Good evening, I have a question regarding the moto x update to android 5.0
Samantha: Hi Jeremie, thank you for contacting TELUS mobility chat support. I hope you are doing well today!
Jeremie: You as well.
Samantha: I can look at some information for that update.
Jeremie: Great!
Samantha: There actually is not any information about an update at this time.
Jeremie: It is strange since this phone is getting updated currently in the US, Brazil and Mexico. Your website mentions quickest software updates and it is the main reason why I purchased this phone meanwhile everyone else is getting the update but us who purchased froM TELUS.
Jeremie: I know its not your fault but would it be possible to forward my comments to higher ups as I find the wording on your website to be misleading.
Samantha: I totally understand what you are saying. We don't even know about the updates until they actually come out.
Samantha: What you can do if you would like is leave your feedback. There is a "how are we doing" link at the bottom of our home page which will allow you to leave feedback about our website or concerns and that will get to the right people who can handle this request.
Jeremie: OK thanks for your time.
Samantha: No problem! Does that help you for today?
info: Your chat transcript will be sent to ........ at the end of your chat.
Jeremie: Yes have a good evening. Thank you
Samantha: Thanks! You as well!
I will leave my feedback as she suggested.
Here is the feedback I sent them:
On your website, the information provided for the Moto X mentions that the phone gets the quickest software updates. The XT1097 has been updated to android 5.0 in Brazil and Mexico over a week ago and the US XT1095 for almost a month. Even the XT1096 sold at Verizon has been updated almost 3 weeks ago now but still, your agents don't even have a date in sight for when the update will be coming to TELUS Moto X.
The reason I bought this phone was for the quick updates as clearly stated on your website. As you surely know, information in this day and age goes around the globe pretty quickly. If you make a statement like the one made about the speediness of the software updates, you better make sure you're on par with other carriers around the world or it really makes you look bad.
I am not complaining in order to get any sort of compensation but as a long term customer I hope you take my complaint seriously and improve the way you manage software updates.
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Nice, I took the time to fill out the feedback also..... many points along the same lines.... hopefully someone takes note.....
I also provided similar feedback.
I am too pessimistic to believe that it'll do anything but I also don't like to complain unless I'm doing something about the problem.
Rh.
Wow. Where was the marketing? I really want them to do well but they're off to a pretty bad start already.
$699 US; $899 CAD. Shipping begins Nov. 6th.
US: http://store.shopblackberry.com/store/bbrryus/en_US/pd/productID.328095700/categoryID.66826200
CAN: http://store.shopblackberry.com/store/bbrryus/en_CA/pd/productID.328095700/categoryID.70448700
Pretty bad start indeed. I was so excited for this phone, willing to pay whatever they charged.
Only to find out today that it isn't on Verizon. I'm crushed! I can't leave the carrier given what I pay for my service. I'd be paying double if I switched.
So so sad
Guys, the carriers have yet to announce their plans on carrier branded versions. This is the unlocked version direct from BB. Give it a week, we'll most likely hear announcements then. I hope T-Mobile announces theirs soon, I want to get it on Jump On Demand with $0 down!
I hope you're right, but I don't have a lot of faith given that they could have said "VZW/SPRINT coming soon" or something like that D:
I don't think the direct shop link would say that, though, because that would imply that they'd sell a VZW/ Sprint version in their online store, which is untrue. That's something they work out with the carriers, who do the marketing in exchange for "exclusivity" and all that blah blah. Don't fret, amigo. Just gotta wait a little bit.
Telus has said they are releasing the Priv on November 6th. That seems to be the date everything is happening.
I hope they will sell the unlocked version in white but not limiting the white version to specific carrier like AT&T or Verizon.
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I hope they will sell the unlocked version in white but not limiting the white version to specific carrier like AT&T or Verizon.
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Me too. I'd love to get the white one if I'm able.
****!
i want it but i live in spain, this phone is my dream
paorpas said:
****!
i want it but i live in spain, this phone is my dream
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Does Spain not have GSM networks? Just buy it from BB unlocked, it'll work on any carrier. I'm no expert on European cell providers, but to my knowledge almost all carriers use the GSM standard there.
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Does Spain not have GSM networks? Just buy it from BB unlocked, it'll work on any carrier. I'm no expert on European cell providers, but to my knowledge almost all carriers use the GSM standard there.
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yes, spain work with GSm networks, and priv have all bands, but in spain now i cant pre-order and buy one in USA on spain 1200$ aprox
i wait to in clove.co.uk, expansys.co.uk and others.. but now only sell official blackberry shop
i have nada galaxy note 5 and gear s2, but prolly i will change note to priv
I usually buy my phones unlocked, but if I was to buy it locked from T-Mobile, what would this mean for me? I am somewhat hoping there will be a way to root this, in the future, no matter how vain this hope may be. I'm wondering if it's carrier locked if this will mean it'll be even harder to customize.
Also, it is my experience, carrier-branded phones have a ton of bloatware BS that I don't need installed. I usually wiped and installed a custom rom. If I cannot do so on this phone, will I be able to remove the apps I don't want?