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Banding, otherwise known as contouring, is a digital artifact common to images, displays or apps of 16bit(thousands of colours) or less.
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Viewing the 24bit image in the above link will not show banding on a 24bit display(3 x 8bit channels of R, G & B millions of colours) if viewed in a 24bit app.
If 32 distinct bands are seen, possibly with every 1/3 band being a green shade, then the screen or the image viewing application is not 24bit capable.
Viewing 16bit or lower resolution gradient images on your screen will also show banding.
The Android browser shows banding with this image while the Dolphin HD browser does not.
In short, the SGNote has a 24bit display, which will show banding if viewing 16bit or lower images or using a 16bit or lower viewing application.
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Im noticing lots of banding in lots of different apps :-/
Same here, also happens with Google apps like the Market. Not sure what we can do about it anybody has suggestions?
Bigmille said:
Same here, also happens with Google apps like the Market. Not sure what we can do about it anybody has suggestions?
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At least it is not the Note's display hardware that is the issue.
ICS may upgrade some Android OS apps to 24bit.
Thank You for this
This proves that Apps that display banding simply aren't rendering at 24bit.
I was leaning towards there being an issue with the screen as this problem was not noticeable on my previous android devices.
This clarifies everything.
Thanks.
qazzi76 said:
This proves that Apps that display banding simply aren't rendering at 24bit.
I was leaning towards there being an issue with the screen as this problem was not noticeable on my previous android devices.
This clarifies everything.
Thanks.
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You are welcome.
It bugged me too, until I got to the bottom of it.
Trust your eyes, the screen is glorious.
I too don't believe the hardware to be the issue. I suspect it's more to do with having a device with a smallish screen and a large 1280x800 resolution. Higher res images and videos look amazing. If the image is quite compressed (i.e. lossy) then the higher resolution screen will show this more than a low resolution screen. Garbage in, garbage out comes to mind. We need all apps and videos and images to be high resolution 24bit minimum to make the most of our amazing screen .
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I too don't believe the hardware to be the issue. I suspect it's more to do with having a device with a smallish screen and a large 1280x800 resolution. Higher res images and videos look amazing. If the image is quite compressed (i.e. lossy) then the higher resolution screen will show this more than a low resolution screen. Garbage in, garbage out comes to mind. We need all apps and videos and images to be high resolution 24bit minimum to make the most of our amazing screen .
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Excellent. I will put it in a drawer for a year or so then. Hopefully by then there will be some video I can watch.
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Excellent. I will put it in a drawer for a year or so then. Hopefully by then there will be some video I can watch.
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ha ha . Listen, think of it like this. You've probably got a high resolution monitor attached to your computer. Do you prefer watching videos at 420p and lower or 720p and higher? No doubt the answer is higher resolution to match your monitor.
What Samsung has done is squeeze in a screen with similar resolution to a 13" laptop, but in a 5.3" mobile device! So we're going to come across lots of images and videos aimed at 'normal' mobile devices, which won't look so great on our high-res screen. To make the most of the screen you can copy 720p or 1080p high profile videos to your sdcard, and they will look incredible on playback, but they will also be large and it's a slow process, and if the video is long then it'll also hit the limitation with FAT max file sizes. Those issues aren't the fault of the screen though. It's simple really. If you want to make the most of the screen density then you have to provide it with good quality source material suitable for a high resolution screen.
Do you think that its just software? No hardware? Do you think that ICS will fix this?
I came from dell streak and its realy hard to watch on note specialy on dark scene.
even opening xda app it has banding problems
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Do you think that its just software? No hardware? Do you think that ICS will fix this?
I came from dell streak and its realy hard to watch on note specialy on dark scene.
even opening xda app it has banding problems
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It's definitely not a hardware issue because the screen is definitely 24bit colour. It displays well in the right app. You could swap apps for those that handle higher bit images. If you use Dolphin HD, possibly other browsers, webpages are seen in 24bit, if they are 24bit images. I don't know but there must be alternative picture viewing apps. Dice Player is a high res video viewer. As for system graphics, they don't look so bad to me. For games etc, it means living with banding until the maker upgrades? This is always the case on computers.
Be thankful Samsung have not rorted us.
Apple has ripped off it's customers many times selling lo-res screens as high res:
"Apple has received a new class action complaint alleging the MacBook
does not support millions of colors, but rather 16 bit color, which is
dithered to approximate millions of colors."
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:37:17 -0500
I don't have a Note yet, but can somebody try with QuickPic, it has an option in it's settings to force decode in 32bit mode.
That could clarify if it is a software or hardware problem...
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ha ha . Listen, think of it like this. You've probably got a high resolution monitor attached to your computer. Do you prefer watching videos at 420p and lower or 720p and higher? No doubt the answer is higher resolution to match your monitor.
What Samsung has done is squeeze in a screen with similar resolution to a 13" laptop, but in a 5.3" mobile device! So we're going to come across lots of images and videos aimed at 'normal' mobile devices, which won't look so great on our high-res screen. To make the most of the screen you can copy 720p or 1080p high profile videos to your sdcard, and they will look incredible on playback, but they will also be large and it's a slow process, and if the video is long then it'll also hit the limitation with FAT max file sizes. Those issues aren't the fault of the screen though. It's simple really. If you want to make the most of the screen density then you have to provide it with good quality source material suitable for a high resolution screen.
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The video and photographs shot with the phone's own camera have the same problems as other video and pictures. Surely they should display OK.
Some Android apps only render in 16bit
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The video and photographs shot with the phone's own camera have the same problems as other video and pictures. Surely they should display OK.
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The phone has a 24bit 16 million colour display.
Some apps, including the picture viewing gallery app do not display 24bit colour in the 24bit quality they were made. See here
Thanks, Xaddict, this all makes sense regarding 24- versus 16-bit rendering.
Still, shouldn't intelligent/adaptive codecs be able to bridge the chasm by re-rendering 16-bit source material into some sort of "interleaved" or "inferred" gradual gradation or gradient... a codec to "smooth" the blend, if you will.
It's a codec issue, isn't it?
I wonder if Samsung or ICS will solve this first, if ever...
It feels like the Note has the same display like the first Desire (Amoled) that I've owned.
Its been said that this is a software problem, I've never seen this fixed with a 3rd party custom ROM since the Galaxy S1 days. Even 'x' ROM still shows color banding.
Found a solution for the wallpaper. Install MultiPicture live wallpaper (free from market) Go into it's settings and select "Color depth", then select "True color (24-bit). If the image you selected and used is 24bit, there will be no banding in your wallpaper. Hope this helped, cheers
Depending on the wallpaper you'ed still see massive banding.
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Depending on the wallpaper you'ed still see massive banding.
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It's not a software problem.
If anything, it's a low quality image being viewed on a 24bit screen problem.
Hi all, just nabbed a 7.7 today moving away from the p1000. I started playing around with the camera and I immediately noticed some oddities especially when switching to video mode set at 720p quality.
Below are screenshots taken with my SGS 2, where I placed the tablet stationary at a certain distance from my printer and tested different resolution settings on the camera, while maintaining the tablet in same position at all times.
First a test with the picture mode, the distances between 480p and the highest quality isn't very noticeable but it's there,
480p
Highest quality with widescreen
This, I have no problems whatsoever, taking pictures still feels the same as the p1000 and that's good because I'm used to that.
Next is where I am really confused. When switching to video mode, I noticed the entire printer seems to be zoomed in closer and the graininess has increased drastically (I suspect the increased in graininess comes from zooming too close to it). I have checked everywhere in the menu to look for zoom settings but alas, after googling around the tablet's default camera app doesn't support zoom at all. Which brings me to an even bigger problem, as it just feels out of place when everything is zoomed in whenever I wanted to take a video recording. After turning down the quality to 480p, it felt so much better with the distancing between the object and the camera. Pics below will show the comparison between both settings,
480p video
720p video
Is everyone else having this same oddity with their camera as well? I hope its not a 'normal' thing cause I'd be hating it immensely (just using 480p mode in the meantime) :|
any kind sgt owners willing to test this out for me and give a feedback?
at least I could pinpoint if its a hardware or software problem, if its different between other tablets.
I am having the same problem. I was wanting to use my 7.7 as a uStream live streaming device for some of our company events, and because of this problem, I am using my phone instead, which sucks because phone calls can interupt!
Anyone else notice vid camera zoomed all of the way in, with no other way to zoom out. Is there a fix?
I have never used 720p video recording before, but after reading this thread I just tried it. Same problem as reported. On 480p everything works fine, but on 720p vid is zoomed in alot. Also quality is way worse than on 480p.
I guess without this thread I would have never noticed that, but this is indeed a huge bug that should not happen on final software for an expensive device like this.
It is advertised with hd video recording after all...
thanks guys for the feedback!
I was almost tempted to try another firmware but with different SGT 7.7's out there affected by this bug, it needs to be reported.
I am pretty sure it is a software problem which is causing the camera to zoom in on HD mode (digital zooming is possible with third party software as I have tried it)
Also, because it is always digitally zoomed in, the quality/graininess will be a lot worse, this is what every tab 7.7 owner will be looking at.
Could anyone guide me to report this directly to Samsung? I'm hoping its fixed before official ICS!
bump, anyone else having the same issues with their camera just give a feedback here.
+1
Also the text is cut off in settings when in landscape.. geez
I have the same issue. Tried using a video recorder app off the market and it would digital zoom 720p and 480p so that wasn't any help.
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mgleed said:
I have the same issue. Tried using a video recorder app off the market and it would digital zoom 720p and 480p so that wasn't any help.
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yeap great feedback
please guys, I am sure this is a worldwide problem for every sgt 7.7 out there,
the default factory setting on the camera is broken
need some experts on this issue and if there's a possible fix
Anyone running XXLC3 rom from mars? Since im still on XXLA4, but i have deodexed XXLC3 rom, so later these evening i'll test the latest camera to see how far this bug goes..
anyone with the new official ICS rom be able to test the camera out to see if they resolved this problem in a stealth fix?
my tab's with mum so I can't try it
I will forever be in your debt
Just installed open Austria ICS and the bug is still there
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kishd said:
Just installed open Austria ICS and the bug is still there
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wow that sucks ! I dont have the sgt 7.7 with me but this is too serious to be overlooked
i guess based on the amount of responses in this thread most of the tab owners never really cared about 720p video recording
this is my FINAL samsung android product... I feel that they have dropped the ball this time, their pinnacle being SGS 2 and I will always remember the younger days when samsung was focused on something good,
now they are just releasing products like different branded cereal without even tasting them first.
someone explained this one to me before since I hate the 'zoom' effect of the screen as well, but as per his explanation, this could be due to the camera pixel, we have a 3.2 on board camera, using it in 3.2mpxl snapper makes use of the whole image sensor pixel array. using the 720P video on the other hand will use only a portion of that array and the software automatically fill the screen. I don't have an explanation regarding the full screen, un-zoomed 480P though,
I dont find this as a problem but if we can just have this adjusted (zoom in and out) it would be much better
Sammy juat stopped caring about their tabs. Gs3 is making sales targets. Thats good enough for them. Too bad! 7 inch market is super competative. If they dont act fast they will lose just like blackbery and their underdeveloped playbok
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haksam said:
anyone with the new official ICS rom be able to test the camera out to see if they resolved this problem in a stealth fix?
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I am so angry I'm considering ditching Samsung. ICS finally arrived in the UK via Kies a couple of days ago. I didn't have this issue with Honeycomb but now with ICS my P6800 video camera, when in HD mode displays a zoomed image. The only reason I;m not ditching it right now is because of the SuperAMOLED screen - the same reason I paid silly money for it when I could have gotten a Nexus.
I have done some recherching and found out this is not a bug! Many devices have this. I'll try to explain what happens:
If you record videos in HD, your device has to downscale the video to show it to you on display while at the same time saving it in HD resolution and keeping the promised frame rate. This needs too much processing power, framerate would just drop. So they use a little trick: If you don't downscale the preview but only show a small part of what the sensor gets you save alot of processing power. But on the other hand it gives you the noticed "zoomed-in" look, also the image quality is less because it does not use the whole sensor (like it would on a still).
The saved video should look normal (not zoomed-in).
Hope my english is not too bad so you can understand what I mean
Camera ics + doesnt zoom in when recording ^^
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I have done some recherching and found out this is not a bug! Many devices have this. I'll try to explain what happens:
If you record videos in HD, your device has to downscale the video to show it to you on display while at the same time saving it in HD resolution and keeping the promised frame rate. This needs too much processing power, framerate would just drop. So they use a little trick: If you don't downscale the preview but only show a small part of what the sensor gets you save alot of processing power. But on the other hand it gives you the noticed "zoomed-in" look, also the image quality is less because it does not use the whole sensor (like it would on a still).
The saved video should look normal (not zoomed-in).
Hope my english is not too bad so you can understand what I mean
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Tried recording but when playing back its the same image quality as recording it does not change
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Standard poor copy-paste response from Samsung, which appear not to acknowledge that the device isn't a telephone:
Thank you for contacting Samsung and I have pleasure in providing the following assistance.
I’m sorry you are having issues with your device after upgrading the firmware. I can understand your frustration about this.
Old systems settings can be left on the phone after an update occurs, which is why we usually recommend a full factory reset after updating. If this isn’t done your device may begin to give false readings from system resources, or experience technical problems, which may explain the issue you are having.
We would advise on doing the following, which is designed to reset the settings on your device. Please back up your device using Samsung KIES before you do this.
1) Remove the battery for at least 40 minutes, put the battery back in and allow it to fully discharge. Afterwards, perform a full battery charge with the device turned off. Do not interrupt the charging process.
2) After the battery is fully charged, we would like you to perform a full factory reset, which can be done via Settings > Backup > Reset.
This process will reset your device, remove old system files that are no longer needed and enable your device to operate normally again.
Please let us know if your device continues to experience problems after the reset so we can investigate further.
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and we will be more than happy to help.
Kind regards
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I have done some recherching and found out this is not a bug! Many devices have this. I'll try to explain what happens:
If you record videos in HD, your device has to downscale the video to show it to you on display while at the same time saving it in HD resolution and keeping the promised frame rate. This needs too much processing power, framerate would just drop. So they use a little trick: If you don't downscale the preview but only show a small part of what the sensor gets you save alot of processing power. But on the other hand it gives you the noticed "zoomed-in" look, also the image quality is less because it does not use the whole sensor (like it would on a still).
The saved video should look normal (not zoomed-in).
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I must respectfully disagree. If that were the case then the behaviour should have been the same prior to the ICS update. Also, when copying the video off the device and playing it back on a FullHD capable device the quality is still poor.
First of all I would like to say I LOVE this phone, its the best Android phone I have used thus far and I came from the HTC one, S4, and note 2.
Now here is whats making me insane, lg imposes this extreme low light processing which causes the image to become brighter at night, now thats completely fine with images I don't mind it, but with video seeing as we can't disable it, it makes videos taken during lowlight/indoor lighting horrid, any movement introduced causes blur and ghosting (even under the 1080p 60fps mode). I also have an iphone 5s and while the video is definitely darker, there is no issue with blur or ghosting.
This is not a bug, it is not a malfunction, its a feature that LG imposes on the camera, I was just wondering if there was some way to disable it from activating. If you guys don't understand what I mean I can make videos to show you the difference.
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First of all I would like to say I LOVE this phone, its the best Android phone I have used thus far and I came from the HTC one, S4, and note 2.
Now here is whats making me insane, lg imposes this extreme low light processing which causes the image to become brighter at night, now thats completely fine with images I don't mind it, but with video seeing as we can't disable it, it makes videos taken during lowlight/indoor lighting horrid, any movement introduced causes blur and ghosting (even under the 1080p 60fps mode). I also have an iphone 5s and while the video is definitely darker, there is no issue with blur or ghosting.
This is not a bug, it is not a malfunction, its a feature that LG imposes on the camera, I was just wondering if there was some way to disable it from activating. If you guys don't understand what I mean I can make videos to show you the difference.
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There is a modded camera you can use in order to fix the video low light (low frames) issues.Must have root tho and recovery in order to do so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471900
woof123 said:
There is a modded camera you can use in order to fix the video low light (low frames) issues.Must have root tho and recovery in order to do so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471900
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Thanks for the response I am glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this.
mobiousblack said:
Thanks for the response I am glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this.
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Your welcome,hopefully soon we will have even better mods from the guys that are trying to help us.
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Your welcome,hopefully soon we will have even better mods from the guys that are trying to help us.
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I hope lg eventually decided to give us the option to choose, basically decrease exposure to get better fps in low light. I prefer to keep my devices unrooted so I don't loose OTA updates but I'm glad that someone actually fixed it. If it gets too annoying I might eventually root
Hey all,
I have bought the P10 Plus VKY-L29 and although it's a great phone, the battery life can be slightly erratic. To combat the issue I've tried the Lower resolution power saving mode but it doesn't seem to do anything - the resolution still stays at 2K
Does anyone else have an issue with the lower resolution power saving mode not working?
stoosh666 said:
Hey all,
I have bought the P10 Plus VKY-L29 and although it's a great phone, the battery life can be slightly erratic. To combat the issue I've tried the Lower resolution power saving mode but it doesn't seem to do anything - the resolution still stays at 2K
Does anyone else have an issue with the lower resolution power saving mode not working?
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Your not going to notice lower resolution on your phone really because there isn't that much difference. ++ If you have viewing mode / density on small and you lower the resolution you aren't going to notice it. You'll probably only notice it if you put viewing mode on big so text and icons are very large and then let it go in ultra power mode. I personally have never tried it, maybe it isn't working but I'm saying you won't know the difference.
I get what you're saying however the thing is the mode is supposed to reduce the resolution from 2K to 1080p. Activating the mode it doesn't do so. .So the initial question still stands. Does the lower resolution power option actually work or is there an issue with my device?
stoosh666 said:
I get what you're saying however the thing is the mode is supposed to reduce the resolution from 2K to 1080p. Activating the mode it doesn't do so. .So the initial question still stands. Does the lower resolution power option actually work or is there an issue with my device?
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Again, you're not getting what I'm saying. You're NOT going to notice the resolution change. It's different to your computer resolution as your screen is larger on your monitor. Lowering the resolution to save battery is a myth a lot of people rant about.
So again, the resolution is probably lowering but you're not seeing the difference.
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Again, you're not getting what I'm saying. You're NOT going to notice the resolution change. It's different to your computer resolution as your screen is larger on your monitor. Lowering the resolution to save battery is a myth a lot of people rant about.
So again, the resolution is probably lowering but you're not seeing the difference.
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On EMUI 4.x the resolution physically changed and this was reported on the About phone screen under the resolution heading. In this case even with low resolution power saving on the resolution heading still shows as 1440x2560 so it clearly hasn't changed!
It doesn't matter about the size of the fonts changing when clearly the resolution hasn't changed at all. You would certainly notice the resolution change as it used to work on my P9 when changing from 1080p to 720p.
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On EMUI 4.x the resolution physically changed and this was reported on the About phone screen under the resolution heading. In this case even with low resolution power saving on the resolution heading still shows as 1440x2560 so it clearly hasn't changed!
It doesn't matter about the size of the fonts changing when clearly the resolution hasn't changed at all. You would certainly notice the resolution change as it used to work on my P9 when changing from 1080p to 720p.
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Mate, going from 1440x2560 to 1080x1920 you will NOT see the difference!!! Again like i said, it may be broken but I'm telling you, the resolutions are identical. 720p from 108p is a bit of a leap as that's when you start losing HD. If you're that bothered, send it back in.
stoosh666 said:
Hey all,
I have bought the P10 Plus VKY-L29 and although it's a great phone, the battery life can be slightly erratic. To combat the issue I've tried the Lower resolution power saving mode but it doesn't seem to do anything - the resolution still stays at 2K
Does anyone else have an issue with the lower resolution power saving mode not working?
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I have mate 9 pro and i have the same problem the screen stays on 2k, and i dont know why its too hard for the other guys to understand what you saying
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Akhayev said:
I have mate 9 pro and i have the same problem the screen stays on 2k, and i dont know why its too hard for the other guys to understand what you saying
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Unless you can, ( like the op ) show us through command prompt that your resolution is still on 2k when in ultra low power saving it's just your word against his. If you both feel that it is not scaling down. Contact huawei. Because ATM there's nothing any of us can do.
stoosh666 said:
Hey all,
I have bought the P10 Plus VKY-L29 and although it's a great phone, the battery life can be slightly erratic. To combat the issue I've tried the Lower resolution power saving mode but it doesn't seem to do anything - the resolution still stays at 2K
Does anyone else have an issue with the lower resolution power saving mode not working?
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Did you find and way to fix it ? I have mate 9 pro and p10 plus and still having the same issue
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Unless you can, ( like the op ) show us through command prompt that your resolution is still on 2k when in ultra low power saving it's just your word against his. If you both feel that it is not scaling down. Contact huawei. Because ATM there's nothing any of us can do.
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1. It doesn't bother me much but i noticed the same behaviour on my device, resolution does not change.
2. I don't know why you keep saying that one can't see the difference, that is not the point here, don't you get that? The point is that no matter if you actually can see difference or not the resolution DOES NOT CHANGE in the first place. When using a tool to show the current resolution it STILL says 2k regardless whether low resolution is being activated or not. Normally - and it DID work that way on the P9P - when you switch to low resolution the device should ask you to reboot and after that it would have the lower resolution, regardless of ultra power saving mode. It clearly does not work this way here, so there seems to be something wrong with this firmware-wise.
3. Afaik OP didn't ask for anyone here to do something, he merely asked whether other people are experiencing this, too.
4. OP, which firmware are you on currently?
I'm almost 100% sure it's not working properly. If it was I should be getting more than 4.5 - 5 hours of sot. Unless there's something going on with the hardware as compared to the Mate 9 that you just can't see in the specs.
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Your not going to notice lower resolution on your phone really because there isn't that much difference. ++ If you have viewing mode / density on small and you lower the resolution you aren't going to notice it. You'll probably only notice it if you put viewing mode on big so text and icons are very large and then let it go in ultra power mode. I personally have never tried it, maybe it isn't working but I'm saying you won't know the difference.
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I've got nothing to contribute to the thread but I've something to say to you. I've been using 2k 5.5 inch screens since the LG G3 and side by side with smaller 1080p screens the difference is noticeable to not only me but also to my friends who own the 1080p phones.
I think you're trying to say that the phone may well have switched down to 1080p resolution but OP can't tell that. I'm not sure I buy that but I'll get back to you on that.
i am experiencing the same thing on my P9 after update to latest EMUI and P10 since bought. Was working on honor 6, and my p9 before upgrade. so EMUI should be the culprit since different phones having same issue. hope they will fix it as soon as possible. i need to get extra juice from my p10!
some people think they are too smart. Even if OP cannot see the difference, that isnt the point. We are curious whether the feature is malfunctioned. and yes, u can check the current resolution on about phone. Do urself a favor to try and understand before bashing repetitively. it looks too stupid, im sorry.
Yes you can't really tell the difference when it's 1080p because it's being upscaled to a native 1440p screen anyway. There will be a worthwhile difference in battery life from doing that though. It's why the galaxy s8 is configured to do it out of the box.
Those guy who did not have our devices are useless here. I got 2 Honor V8, and before update to Android 7. I noticed the difference when I down the resolution. But when updated to Android 7, resolution is the same whatever I do. I have Honor V8 knt al10 and knt al20. Hope the next update will solve this issue. Regards
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Mate, going from 1440x2560 to 1080x1920 you will NOT see the difference!!! Again like i said, it may be broken but I'm telling you, the resolutions are identical. 720p from 108p is a bit of a leap as that's when you start losing HD. If you're that bothered, send it back in.
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stoosh666 said:
On EMUI 4.x the resolution physically changed and this was reported on the About phone screen under the resolution heading. In this case even with low resolution power saving on the resolution heading still shows as 1440x2560 so it clearly hasn't changed!
It doesn't matter about the size of the fonts changing when clearly the resolution hasn't changed at all. You would certainly notice the resolution change as it used to work on my P9 when changing from 1080p to 720p.
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If the resolution really changed, when you take a screenshot IT MUST be 1080p instead of 2560, otherwise mean resolution it's still on 2K, and I can confirm that the function to lower the resolution of the screen at the moment is not working > it's not changing the resolution of the screen.
It has nothing to do with "you are not going to notice the difference"
you can do tests on your pc monitor, when you lower the resolution your screenshots will be smaller
I am trying as well to drop the resolution to 1080p and it's currently not working.
Noticed the difference in some apps.
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Low resolution works only in games and some apps, not in system
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Question: did someone test the battery difference?
I know that the prediction is about 2+ hours in my P10, but does that translate do the real world?
How to lower the resolution in P10 to 720p?
I don't use the low res setting and Accubattery still reports over 8 hours SOT. Mind you, I don't use my device very heavily - maybe browsing and music. Funny thing though, my "new" phones only has about 93% of a full battery's worth of capacity... Hmm...
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bauer18 said:
How to lower the resolution in P10 to 720p?
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Just the "low power resolution" setting for now, saw screenshots of an actual setting to change coming in EMUI 8/Oreo.
The LG V60 ThinQ has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Very clear. The resolution is lower than my V30, I think, but it's not noticeable to me.
I honestly don't notice the lower resolution and because of that always had my previous phones set to 1080p to save battery.
Auto brightness has been a problem though, in low light the screen throttles back to 1% far too aggressively and 1% is too dim even in a pitch black room.
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The larger screen size and lower resolution combine for a noticeably lower DPI count, but I happen to think that higher (than 1080p) resolutions on (relatively) smaller phone displays are mostly a waste of battery life.
YMMV, but in my experience, there comes a point where the human eye can only resolve so much and the bump in the resolution of small screen displays just becomes overkill. I'll take battery life over resolution and even refresh rate any day, though I imagine higher resolution displays with higher refresh rates will only become more efficient over time, and I'll likely change my tune eventually.
I went from the V30+ to the V60 at the beginning of this month, and I feel like the new phone is a substantial upgrade over the older one in just about all categories that matter. And that's even considering that the former was rooted and the latter can't be!
The display is crisp enough, though clearly not cutting edge. Colors look at least as good as those of the V30. Viewing angles are fantastic without any noticeable (to me) color shift. It's probably the best we could have expected knowing that the display is relatively modest compared to this phone's 20202 (and some 2019) peers. And if you're fine with that, this shouldn't stop you from considering the phone. If, however, you DO want higher resolutions and higher refresh rates, you already know this phone's not for you and that you've got multiple options.
Mejilan said:
Viewing angles are fantastic without any noticeable (to me) color shift.
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I'm seeing very drastic color shift when viewing at about 45°, more noticeable on white screens. It's a greenish yellowish shift.
Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. 1080p is plenty resolution and I'm fine with 60Hz refresh.
Mr_Mooncatt said:
I'm seeing very drastic color shift when viewing at about 45°, more noticeable on white screens. It's a greenish yellowish shift.
Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. 1080p is plenty resolution and I'm fine with 60Hz refresh.
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Are there display variances across production runs, or something? Because I can't seem to reproduce this fault.
I'm not TERRIBLY sensitive to such things, but from what you say, it sounds like it should be blatantly obvious to the eyes.
And I don't suffer from any kind of color blindness that could possibly impact me.
Mejilan said:
Are there display variances across production runs, or something? Because I can't seem to reproduce this fault.
I'm not TERRIBLY sensitive to such things, but from what you say, it sounds like it should be blatantly obvious to the eyes.
And I don't suffer from any kind of color blindness that could possibly impact me.
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I haven't seen anyone else complain of this, so not site if it's an issue with mine specifically or what. Here's a short video I made that hopefully demonstrates the color shift.
https://youtu.be/naGHasaIjp0
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I haven't seen anyone else complain of this, so not site if it's an issue with mine specifically or what. Here's a short video I made that hopefully demonstrates the color shift.
https://youtu.be/naGHasaIjp0
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Huh. How did you get a plain white background to show up like that? (I suppose I can Google one up).
I'd like to test my phone out and see if I can get similar results.
It's a little hard to see in a YT video, but I definitely noticed SOME shift on your screen that I don't think I've ever seen on mine.
I imagine the effect is even more noticeable in real life, with the phone right in front of you.
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Huh. How did you get a plain white background to show up like that? (I suppose I can Google one up).
I'd like to test my phone out and see if I can get similar results.
It's a little hard to see in a YT video, but I definitely noticed SOME shift on your screen that I don't think I've ever seen on mine.
I imagine the effect is even more noticeable in real life, with the phone right in front of you.
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I use this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iudesk.android.photo.editor
It's a photo editing app, but you can start a new image from scratch and select a background color. I set it to pure white, then zoomed in on it to fill the screen. It's definitely easier to see in person. I tried using by wife's Note 9 for the video, but I couldn't select a better refresh rate on it to prevent the banding.
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I use this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iudesk.android.photo.editor
It's a photo editing app, but you can start a new image from scratch and select a background color. I set it to pure white, then zoomed in on it to fill the screen. It's definitely easier to see in person. I tried using by wife's Note 9 for the video, but I couldn't select a better refresh rate on it to prevent the banding.
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I tried it out, and while I did notice a dimming or darkening of the white background at extreme tilts, I figure that's normal.
Doesn't quite look like what your YT video shows, but I'm not sure if that's down to the difference between watching a YT video of something and watching it yourself directly.
I've had the V30 and now this and I'm as happy with the screen on this one as I was with the V30. I couldn't care about the refresh rate. It's not like I'm watching a 60" screen. Overall it's a very good screen.
Mr_Mooncatt said:
I'm seeing very drastic color shift when viewing at about 45°, more noticeable on white screens. It's a greenish yellowish shift.
Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. 1080p is plenty resolution and I'm fine with 60Hz refresh.
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I pissed that it's 1080P, however, people who say a 90+ refresh rate is noticeable is just experiencing placebo.
The human eye will never notice that.
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BROKEN1981 said:
I pissed that it's 1080P, however, people who say a 90+ refresh rate is noticeable is just experiencing placebo.
The human eye will never notice that.
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I've had higher resolution screens, and I can tell no difference between them and 1080p. Even 720p is hard to notice a difference.
When it comes to refresh rates, most people see a noticeable difference between 60Hz and 90Hz. My last phone was selectable between those two and 120Hz, and I couldn't tell a difference between 90Hz and 120Hz.
I can see the difference in resolution between the V30 and V60, it's just that 1080p on a phone doesn't bother me.
It falls in my "good enough" range. These aren't 55+ inch television displays, after all.
I also can definitely see the difference between a 60 Hz refresh rate vs a 90 Hz or 120 Hz refresh display.
my problem is with notifications in the top pull down... its virtually useless in landscape mode...