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Hello , I instaled eb13 via samsungs downloadable exe and the first time it was really laggy and buggy so I thn went into basic system recovery and iped data and such and then did it again and now I have an awesome smooth runnign froyo aside from the browser checkerboard and the video camera. Tghe browser I can deal with but what gives witgh the video camera? It is horrible when your moving quick its extremely blurry. This was not the case before and there is no real logical reason for the downgrade. I don't get it since I'm on a bug free froyo now. Anyone found a fix?
I have the same issue
Same here with the camera. Dunno about the browser as I use Dolphin HD.
The camera only presents the lag in low-light conditions it seems. It did not do that with DK28 or DI18.
Some users report not having this issue but do not mention low-light vs. high-light.
Ran update through Samsung's exe.
i've noticed this as well
Damn this sucks.....I lways braged to my girl that the recording was better vs her evo shift lol. Now its eaxctly the same. What a crock. I doubt they'll reease an update to fix it with there laz asses. I'm rlly just wondering if its an issue with the method of installing or eb13 in general and or if devs can fix it.
Yup, I didn't know I had this issue until coming across this thread. The video is fine in good light conditions but recording in low light produces blurry and bad video
Basboy said:
Yup, I didn't know I had this issue until coming across this thread. The video is fine in good light conditions but recording in low light produces blurry and bad video
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YES, its all because of low lighting. I took a video today and the quality is AMAZING, I love my epic
except for the fact that now we can't saves picture messages. Once they fix that and the checker boarding on the browser--this phone is perfect.
I'm trying to remember if it was Sprint who released an update shortly after the Moment's camera fiasco (same thing..updated to 2.1 and camera went laggy) or if it was a developer who fixed it and released it on SDX.
Anyone else remember that?
Same here
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ae69ae said:
YES, its all because of low lighting. I took a video today and the quality is AMAZING, I love my epic
except for the fact that now we can't saves picture messages. Once they fix that and the checker boarding on the browser--this phone is perfect.
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to save picture messages, long press on the message and select "attached items." you can then check the item and hit save button to copy to sd
Same here in low light on highest res setting.
YES!!! I think I might have been the first to point this out yesterday...desparately need a fix
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squshy 7 said:
YES!!! I think I might have been the first to point this out yesterday...desparately need a fix
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BUMP!
This an absolutley tragic problem ,lol. I have recorded outside and its still blury when moving so idk.
Would like to get this looked at asap....just switched from evo to epic for the camera and froyo......actually mostly for the keyboard I'm loving it..
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Yeah, video recording is totally screwed up. The framerate drops along with the lighting/increased ISO. My room is dimly lit right now, and I can point it at my monitor and it records at a nice smooth framerate, but as soon as I pan over to a dimly lit area of the room, the framerate tanks to like no higher than 5 fps. I didn't expect EB13 to be much if any better than DK28, but so far it's worse. How can Samsung drops the ball every time, and they spent how many months working on this update?
Im really having no problems after wiping data and cache and all that and then flashing besides this problem with the camera. It seems to be a problem for 95% of us. How did the other 5% not get this problem lol.
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Im really having no problems after wiping data and cache and all that and then flashing besides this problem with the camera. It seems to be a problem for 95% of us. How did the other 5% not get this problem lol.
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Or the other 5% haven't figure it out yet...till they need to record something like us
Here's what I think is going on with the video problems:
I've looked at videos I shot on Eclair, and in low light it just didn't have any sensitivity at all. Anything below an average room lighting was just pitch black. But, the video stayed smooth.
On Froyo the camera app appears to try to reduce the frame rate to increase the sensitivity of the camera. You can see images in VERY dark environments, but with only a few frames a second.
Neither option is very good but I think I like dark video over 4 frames a second.
I'm guessing there is a hidden parameter somewhere that controls this. Something like a mimimum ISO setting.
Yea its a pain in the ass because of what it considers low light. I live in an old house so evenwith the lights on where I can see everything with my eyes the camera decides that its low ligt. So basically to have reg freamerates I have to be in a warehouse or outside in the sun? This is not acceptable lol. I like to take videos out and about at night and at concerts wich is usually dark.....as well as at m home of my daughter and now I can't. Hopefully your right and it meanss someone can go in there and change it back.
I love everything about the Nexus 4 except the camera. The autofocus is having serious trouble unless you have a LOT of light. Compared to other smartphones, it seems to be broken. Does anyone else have this problem? Also, I've used 2 Nexus 4's, so I'm sure this is a software issue. Have any past Nexus devices had similar issues and been fixed?
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I don't have that problem. Both with normal and HDR mode. In HDR mode it can be blurry, but not because out-of-focus but rather because my hands move while the phone still taking the picture (it takes more than one picture to create a HDR picture)
Also, I do notice that even in normal mode the camera actually takes longer to take the picture than one would expect, so usually holds your hand steady for a few extra seconds do the trick.
I hope that helps.
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I love everything about the Nexus 4 except the camera. The autofocus is having serious trouble unless you have a LOT of light. Compared to other smartphones, it seems to be broken. Does anyone else have this problem? Also, I've used 2 Nexus 4's, so I'm sure this is a software issue. Have any past Nexus devices had similar issues and been fixed?
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Yes, I have the same exact problem. It's very annoying and makes me feel like my phone is defective.
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Yes, I have the same exact problem. It's very annoying and makes me feel like my phone is defective.
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+1. My N4 16GB refuses to take any macro shots. The auto focus keeps engaging and is extremely annoying. The video recording seems ok, but the picture taking is atrocious.
I think I'm getting the same thing... but then, I started to think maybe it was psychological. You know, the circle showing you constant auto focusing? It moves so much, it makes you feel the "focus bouncing" much more than it would do if all you saw was the picture being focused only.
Well, that's my theory, anyways.
Any 'fix' for this?
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I think I'm getting the same thing... but then, I started to think maybe it was psychological. You know, the circle showing you constant auto focusing? It moves so much, it makes you feel the "focus bouncing" much more than it would do if all you saw was the picture being focused only.
Well, that's my theory, anyways.
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I was trying to take a picture of my old Sensation XE to put on ebay but the N4 just wont focus well enough, it constantly focuses and refocuses. Its hugely frustrating and disappointing for a phone this powerful. Has anybody had any success perhaps with different software? There doesnt seem to be any kind of 'macro mode' built into the JB app?
Yes, I find the camera to be bad too, especially the autofocus that fails to focus on objects that are further away.
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Unless you are using tap to focus... if the camera is refocusing it is because your hands are not steady, which most likely is also the reason your shots are blurry.
I have noticed that the default program tends to set shutter speeds low to get the ISO down, but anything under 1/60th is going to take steady hands or a tripod. Consider using action mode to tell the camera you want it to use higher shutter speeds (but be aware this will cause more noise in low light due to higher ISO settings).
I've noticed this alot, when I try and take a close up photo, say of a phone, with the flash on, I use touch to focus and the flash turns on for a split second, and the green circle comes up saying it's focused, when it's badly out of focus, it seems to be a bit better with the flash off, but I've noticed the best improvement, whilst still not great, is pressing the shutter button before it focuses, so no ring on the screen, then it seems to have more luck focusing.
I honestly haven't had any problem with this. I have noticed the flash turning on briefly when focusing in low-light conditions, but the resulting pictures turn out fine.
Dunno if this will help, but someone on another thread suggested holding down (basically long-pressing) the capture button, waiting for the camera to focus, then releasing when you actually want to take the picture.
I don't have this issue either. Sorry to go a little off-topic but what is 'HDR'?
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what is 'HDR'?
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High dynamic range. The camera uses multiple exposures of the same image to generate more levels from shadows to hilights.
I think the problem lies in the new Camera app in 4.2. I had this same problem with my Galaxy Nexus when I updated to 4.2 so I reverted back to 4.1.
Now with Nexus 4 the problem seems to presist, but only when trying to focus very close.
the issue I have is with PA (so maybe not hardware related), but videos don't focus, only the camera function (unless I've not worked out how).
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Very helpful, was having same issue (no autofocus) with the wonderful PA ROM on the (so far) fun Nexus 4.
Only real issue I've had with it so far, good to be past it (hard to know where to look).
Clearly I have no idea what radio even means, time to read.
Same problem here
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I've noticed this alot, when I try and take a close up photo, say of a phone, with the flash on, I use touch to focus and the flash turns on for a split second, and the green circle comes up saying it's focused, when it's badly out of focus, it seems to be a bit better with the flash off, but I've noticed the best improvement, whilst still not great, is pressing the shutter button before it focuses, so no ring on the screen, then it seems to have more luck focusing.
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I subscribe to you + it makes a noise at focus
---Lg nexus 4 - Android 4.4---
Same Issue w/ my Nexus 3
Must be software related...I have the same issue with my nexus 3. Completely unable to take photos at certain distances...
I've come across a lot of people complaining about the camera not giving out noise-free images like it's supposed to. The trick is to use manual mode. I agree, if you use Superior Auto mode, it's a miss most of the times, and when it does work, it gives a purple-ish tint at the corners.
However, If you use manual mode and select the SCENE to NIGHT, the images come out amazing and noise-free!
[DO NOT JUDGE THE IMAGE BY WHAT THE VIEWFINDER SHOWS YOU. A lot of things happen when you press the shutter button. The viewfinder simply goes red for making it easy to focus. The final image in the gallery is a hundred times better]
The Scene modes are one of the most commonly ignored settings.
I hope this helps!
Thanks for this but i just tried it and even though it pretty light where i am taking the picture, the picture turns us a little blurry.
Possibly because night mode uses a longer shutter time which makes it more sensitive to motion blur?
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I've come across a lot of people complaining about the camera not giving out noise-free images like it's supposed to. The trick is to use manual mode. I agree, if you use Superior Auto mode, it's a miss most of the times, and when it does work, it gives a purple-ish tint at the corners.
However, If you use manual mode and select the SCENE to NIGHT, the images come out amazing and noise-free!
[DO NOT JUDGE THE IMAGE BY WHAT THE VIEWFINDER SHOWS YOU. A lot of things happen when you press the shutter button. The viewfinder simply goes red for making it easy to focus. The final image in the gallery is a hundred times better]
The Scene modes are one of the most commonly ignored settings.
I hope this helps!
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USe night SCENE even if we are with light ? i mean DAY light
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USe night SCENE even if we are with light ? i mean DAY light
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How do you select a SCENE mode? I don't have any such option.
Never mind, I had it at 20MP.
Havent got around to really check out every setting in manual mode, bu I will for certain try this on oute tomorrow.
don't know why but right now scene mode shows up only on 8 megapixel and lower shots , so change your camera settings to access it.
I Use Manual mode, 20 Mp, ISO 50!!! Very important for controlling noise - still at pixel level picture is a mess but that is true for Every camera with such pixel density! And overall picture quality as seen on my sample is OK!
Isn't ISO50 only workable with very good lighting? I mean, indoors it's very tricky already...
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Isn't ISO50 only workable with very good lighting? I mean, indoors it's very tricky already...
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Photography is painting with Light, when light is not available there no much "painting" - Agree indoors when it's dark You should up ISO otherwise camera will go to very long exposures and You'll get blurry pictures.
What i was giving was setting for lower possible noise in pictures, settings will vary according to current lighting condition
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Photography is painting with Light, when light is not available there no much "painting" - Agree indoors when it's dark You should up ISO otherwise camera will go to very long exposures and You'll get blurry pictures.
What i was giving was setting for lower possible noise in pictures, settings will vary according to current lighting condition
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Sure, but it's logical that a lower ISO will generate less noise, unfortunately then shutter times increase quickly resulting in moved shots. But it does seem an issue with auto mode that it increases the ISO values very quickly...
Ah well, hoping future firmware updates will improve things (if only had sony included OIS in this thing).
when i select Iso50 the whole of the viewfinder becomes VERY laggy. doesnt anyone else find this? (happens with both mine and my old z1 which was replaced)
very disappointed with the camera on this phone given that the camera is supposed to be the main selling point of the phone.
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when i select Iso50 the whole of the viewfinder becomes VERY laggy. doesnt anyone else find this? (happens with both mine and my old z1 which was replaced)
very disappointed with the camera on this phone given that the camera is supposed to be the main selling point of the phone.
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I have No such problem.
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when i select Iso50 the whole of the viewfinder becomes VERY laggy. doesnt anyone else find this? (happens with both mine and my old z1 which was replaced)
very disappointed with the camera on this phone given that the camera is supposed to be the main selling point of the phone.
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Same lagginess here, but only when the lighting is low/lower... Not as much as an issue for me.
Camera doesn't live up to it's expectations unfortunately, especially in lower light. (No, I don't expect awesome pics in lower light but coming from a Lumia920, which performed a whole lot better, yay for OIS, in that area it is kinda disappointing)
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Same lagginess here, but only when the lighting is low/lower... Not as much as an issue for me.
Camera doesn't live up to it's expectations unfortunately, especially in lower light. (No, I don't expect awesome pics in lower light but coming from a Lumia920, which performed a whole lot better, yay for OIS, in that area it is kinda disappointing)
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not tested it in "good light" to be honest since the whole point in changing the ISO is to compensate for the low light conditions you are trying to take the photo in.
its a little confusing since "Auto" iso setting is the only one which is not laggy. you can select iso50 or the top iso level (Can't remember what number it is) and its all just as laggy. you would have thought that Auto would imply that you would be using an automatically determined iso level, which would be more intensive on the phone than selecting an iso level manually (especially iso 50 which should be really less processing than"auto" would be.
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After doing some more research I found the answer to our low-light camera problems! This trick works with all Sony phones and is easy to do.
What we need is this and this and image quality improves SIGNIFICANTLY!
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well, i have one of those and i can tell you that low light pictures on that are just as bad. a) it doesnt use the nice sony camera app. it uses the frankly rubbish Sony memories camera app which has next to nothing in terms of manual setting and b) you can't use a flash.
so no. it isnt the answer. at all.
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haha maybe you should have got the QX100 instead
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maybe, but it was a freebie with my phone. i've used it a handful of times and its frankly crap.
might stick it on ebay later actually. i doubt the qx100 would be much better tbh as it'd still be using the same app. it'll still take about 30 seconds to connect the device to the phone and it'll still have the same crap wifi distance (about an arms length) before the phones viewfinder lags out badly.
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maybe, but it was a freebie with my phone. i've used it a handful of times and its frankly crap.
might stick it on ebay later actually. i doubt the qx100 would be much better tbh as it'd still be using the same app. it'll still take about 30 seconds to connect the device to the phone and it'll still have the same crap wifi distance (about an arms length) before the phones viewfinder lags out badly.
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The QX10 is pretty good in low light, the QX100 will be better with the large sensor and 1.8 aperture at the wide end.
Nothing can help the lack of flash for certain situations, but a lot of it comes from learning the camera.
Wifi isn't amazing, but it works further than that for me, and through walls. I'm trying to think of new ways to use that style of camera and have been experimenting.
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It's not news to anyone who owns a G2 that the stock camera has a few issues in low light scenes.
Specifically:
Video recording goes lower than 30 fps (and of course 60 fps)Still pictures are slow to take
The question: is this an actually issue that has been officially acknowledged by LG? G2 is still new on the market so I'm pretty surprised that not a single announcement has been made regarding those issues.
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I am aware that unofficial fixes are in the making
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It's not news to anyone who owns a G2 that the stock camera has a few issues in low light scenes.
Specifically:
Video recording goes lower than 30 fps (and of course 60 fps)Still pictures are slow to take
The question: is this an actually issue that has been officially acknowledged by LG? G2 is still new on the market so I'm pretty surprised that not a single announcement has been made regarding those issues.
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I am aware that unofficial fixes are in the making
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I share the same question as you. The device needs a very very steady hand to get the iphone crushing pictures I'm looking for. It gets there with a lot of effort. moving objects ALWAYS exhibit motion blur and video capture at night, although much brighter than other cameras, is very mushy soft and very choppy. Looks embarrassing next to family i5 and note2.
Is LG aware? Have they acknowledged? How can I bring it to their attention? Is there a link or address?
Call lg and tell them... That's what I did about the camera lens scratching. I would try a new camera app and see if it helps... I use the Super Camera here on xda and it seems to work great
Coming from the note 7, I've gotten used to setting it on auto, taking a pic, and getting great pictures... Something I'm not seeing with the v20.
Any tips or settings that may help?
Low light pics area slow to focus and results are so so.
Pictures of moving people even in medium light are blurred
I'll try to write something up later. How much photo experience do you have? How much digital photo knowledge base do you have? (So I know what starting point to use. Photography is a lot of art meets science. It's probably one of the better examples of a right and left brain balance.)
Hmm..I knowthat shutter speed and aperture go together. How they let more more light in by opening longer or wider.
I've tried taking pictures using auto and manual (no change in any settings)..and they come out similar. Except auto seems to do a better job auto focusing.
There's a setting buried in the menu to help with tracking. Make sure you have that on. Aperture is locked down on cellphones so you only really get to play with shutter speed and ISO. Unfortunately, as ISO goes up, so does the noise coming off the sensor. So you really have to balance getting a shutter speed that's just fast enough without getting too crazy with the ISO. This will apply to all cellphones no matter what anyone tries to tell you. (And this is why the pros will always shoot with full frame DSLR's. Much larger sensor, better noise handling, can really crank up the ISO with little ill effect.)
If you're getting blurring motion, you need a faster shutter speed which means higher ISO..... or...... you can practice the old school way and get a cool effect by practicing tracking your subject by hand. I practiced with my DSLR by tracking swallows and dragonflies in flight. For a phone, I think kids running around is about the equivalent. It's difficult but highly rewarding once you get it.
Light, and lots of it, will be your friend on small sensors like these. Cranking up the ISO for darker situations means one of two things will happen. A) You will get a lot of noise from the gain applied to the signal coming off of the sensor. Depending on the quality of the noise coming off of it, this can either be bad or good. For a while, Nikon was known for having a noise quality at higher ISO's that made for excellent B&W's. I'm actually investigating that with this camera as I think it has potential. B) Aggressive noise reduction is applied to the image and it butter faces the heck out of an image and turns it all water color. I have to zoom in way too far than one should before I see this happening. So it looks like noise reduction is being applied on a smaller scale which leaves better detail and might be why I'm seeing an agreeable noise profile. A few more test shots are needed though.
I will note that this all applies to the main shooting assembly (the 16mp f1.8 sensor). The wide shooting assembly is a smaller sensor and the aperture is a smaller f2.4. So it'll require a higher ISO for the same shutter speed and it's going to be noisier shot for shot no matter what and it isn't as nice of a noise profile as the main sensor.
Camera very disappointing. My G3 takes far more better pictures than this. Do you think any software updates could improve on the quality?
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Camera very disappointing. My G3 takes far more better pictures than this. Do you think any software updates could improve on the quality?
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They could, maybe. Depends. What are you disappointed in exactly?
Auto mode. It sucks. 2 generation old note4 can take far better pictures on auto. LG has the chops to make a great camera so wtf happened on this $800 phone?
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Auto mode. It sucks. 2 generation old note4 can take far better pictures on auto. LG has the chops to make a great camera so wtf happened on this $800 phone?
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Manual mode. Manual mode happened and it's pretty damn good. A bit more manual control would make it great. (Let me decide when image stabilization is on, for instance.) This phone wasn't really about auto. That's what the Pixel is about to every degree. The V20 is about people who want to have more control over their content creation without getting too overboard.
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Manual mode. Manual mode happened and it's pretty damn good. A bit more manual control would make it great. (Let me decide when image stabilization is on, for instance.) This phone wasn't really about auto. That's what the Pixel is about to every degree. The V20 is about people who want to have more control over their content creation without getting too overboard.
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I don't mind that. It's just auto can Bork up a picture real quick. Picking the right focus point helps with light situations a lot but still auto should be more decent out of the box. Why? Because half the rest you need to take the shot right away. Manual is fine and not too much complaints about it besides the voice trigger turning itself off all the time. If the manual mode was terrible too I'd pro a lot have returned the phone already. Manual, the audio, battery life, swappable battery and reception help make up for auto's inconsistency.
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Manual mode. Manual mode happened and it's pretty damn good. A bit more manual control would make it great. (Let me decide when image stabilization is on, for instance.) This phone wasn't really about auto. That's what the Pixel is about to every degree. The V20 is about people who want to have more control over their content creation without getting too overboard.
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I want more control over the content of my phone but yet. I can not root my phone on Sprint.[emoji35]
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I don't mind that. It's just auto can Bork up a picture real quick. Picking the right focus point helps with light situations a lot but still auto should be more decent out of the box. Why? Because half the rest you need to take the shot right away. Manual is fine and not too much complaints about it besides the voice trigger turning itself off all the time. If the manual mode was terrible too I'd pro a lot have returned the phone already. Manual, the audio, battery life, swappable battery and reception help make up for auto's inconsistency.
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Auto is consistent. You just have to understand what's going on. I was really hoping that auto would have EV adjustment so we could change the bias of the exposure. The camera wants to expose a little bright to help control noise that you'll get from a small sensor. I'll take a bit of noise for a darker exposure. So to that end, I'll probably shoot manual. All I really need to do is set a minimum shutter speed and adjust ISO from there when I open the camera. That can all occur pretty fast.
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Um, you don't need root for content control. A) Your complaint needs to be in the proper thread. This is about photo/video, not root. B) Sprint. (I live in their HQ city and see their CEO regularly at some of my favorite haunts. Don't expect any miracles from Sprint. It's a top down issue.)
My opinion, the camera as a hardware is good, however, LG needs to upgrade the camera app, specially with auto mood, this coming from a user that have used Samsung for a very long time, and now very disappointing with LG camera
i hope LG is reading this, and can push that kind of update soon..
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My opinion, the camera as a hardware is good, however, LG needs to upgrade the camera app, specially with auto mood, this coming from a user that have used Samsung for a very long time, and now very disappointing with LG camera
i hope LG is reading this, and can push that kind of update soon..
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I agree. I came from the note 3 and i was taking side by side and the note 3 was taking better pics! Not sure if there's an issue with my v20 but ilI'lll be returning it today. Not impressed at all
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Auto is consistent. You just have to understand what's going on. I was really hoping that auto would have EV adjustment so we could change the bias of the exposure. The camera wants to expose a little bright to help control noise that you'll get from a small sensor. I'll take a bit of noise for a darker exposure. So to that end, I'll probably shoot manual. All I really need to do is set a minimum shutter speed and adjust ISO from there when I open the camera. That can all occur pretty fast.
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Auto is NOT consistent. With that being said, I've been getting better pictures, but still taking multiple pictures with different focal points to make sure I get at least one good pic of what I want. Auto works well sometimes, just needs consistency. Obviously the camera is capable of taking great pictures in almost any setting. Even low light. The hardest is when you have a very bright source of light somewhere and auto doesn't do well unless you find the right focal point, and that being where I have to take multiple pics the most. Manual can work too, but I'm not even an amateur photographer so I've been practicing to get better pictures with less adjusting. And by that I mean dialing it in less and getting the pic I want faster from practice and skill rather than paying around experimenting. It's been a learning curve for me and quite a few others. I'm quite sure a firmware update can help.
Also, I am used to my note 4 taking g great pics with auto. Also used to the extra sharpening. I've noticed the extra sharpening and do prefer more natural pictures like the lg or iPhones take. But otoh, many of my pictures at work benefit from the extra sharpening big time and kind of why I don't mind it. That extra sharpening is very very useful when magnification is needed at magnifying glass level and sometimes almost microscopic levels for very fine print, certain details on a board or power supply and especially both those reasons I'm very hard to reach places without taking everything apart.
With that being said, I also wish LG would add a toggle for sharpening when processing the pictures in auto and manual mode. Even though LG leans towards more natural pictures, a sharpen toggle would help a lot. I've just decided to keep using my v20 as a daily driver by a very slim margin. Miss my amoled and adblocking. Don't miss all the extra tweaking I had to do manually along with xposed to get my note4 the way I wanted. LG has caught up alot in their UI. It used to be terrible. But with the theme and some of the options I could live with root just to get adblocking. But when I do root I will be doing so.e tweaking g to get more battery life. And hopefully a kind developer will make a kernel with only voltage control enabled so I can under volt my CPU some.
The problem is the massive herd of Samsung users (I am one also) that were able to just point and shoot. The software did the all the work on the sammy phones. With the V20 we have to work a little to get a great picture. I noticed it today when taking a picture for of my receipts for the headphone deal.
@rbiter said:
Auto is NOT consistent. With that being said, I've been getting better pictures, but still taking multiple pictures with different focal points to make sure I get at least one good pic of what I want. Auto works well sometimes, just needs consistency. Obviously the camera is capable of taking great pictures in almost any setting. Even low light. The hardest is when you have a very bright source of light somewhere and auto doesn't do well unless you find the right focal point, and that being where I have to take multiple pics the most. Manual can work too, but I'm not even an amateur photographer so I've been practicing to get better pictures with less adjusting. And by that I mean dialing it in less and getting the pic I want faster from practice and skill rather than paying around experimenting. It's been a learning curve for me and quite a few others. I'm quite sure a firmware update can help.
Also, I am used to my note 4 taking g great pics with auto. Also used to the extra sharpening. I've noticed the extra sharpening and do prefer more natural pictures like the lg or iPhones take. But otoh, many of my pictures at work benefit from the extra sharpening big time and kind of why I don't mind it. That extra sharpening is very very useful when magnification is needed at magnifying glass level and sometimes almost microscopic levels for very fine print, certain details on a board or power supply and especially both those reasons I'm very hard to reach places without taking everything apart.
With that being said, I also wish LG would add a toggle for sharpening when processing the pictures in auto and manual mode. Even though LG leans towards more natural pictures, a sharpen toggle would help a lot. I've just decided to keep using my v20 as a daily driver by a very slim margin. Miss my amoled and adblocking. Don't miss all the extra tweaking I had to do manually along with xposed to get my note4 the way I wanted. LG has caught up alot in their UI. It used to be terrible. But with the theme and some of the options I could live with root just to get adblocking. But when I do root I will be doing so.e tweaking g to get more battery life. And hopefully a kind developer will make a kernel with only voltage control enabled so I can under volt my CPU some.
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It is pretty consistent, you just have to understand what it is consistently doing. It's just running a program like anything else. It doesn't do things on a wild hair. That said, if you want more sharpening, I highly suggest Snapseed. It's a free app after Google bought the parent company Nik. Nik makes some of the best plug-ins for professional editing of photos. This is probably one of the more powerful photo editing apps you can get on a phone. It even edits RAW photos from the V20.
Madelynn28 said:
The problem is the massive herd of Samsung users (I am one also) that were able to just point and shoot. The software did the all the work on the sammy phones. With the V20 we have to work a little to get a great picture. I noticed it today when taking a picture for of my receipts for the headphone deal.
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I guess since I do a lot of photo work, I'm used to the idea that no camera will ever spit out a shot that's perfect right out of the box, auto or not. (Not even the three Samsungs I owned, they needed just as much adjustment as any other phone.) All images out of a camera can and do need work. For me, I feel that I don't really need to do anything out of my ordinary workflow to get images I want with the V20. I'm actually really looking forward to capturing some more classic images with this phone that haven't been achievable in recent times by most sensors these days.
It gives you a lot more options but most people don't want that. Hell I don't even want that. If I am taking a picture with my phone it just needs to get the job done. Anything else I would be using my 80D. By the way thanks for understanding and decoding those terrible sentences I wrote.
Madelynn28 said:
It gives you a lot more options but most people don't want that. Hell I don't even want that. If I am taking a picture with my phone it just needs to get the job done. Anything else I would be using my 80D. By the way thanks for understanding and decoding those terrible sentences I wrote.
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That's the thing though, this phone is made for content creators, not for someone who wants to just shoot in auto all the time. That's what iPhones and Pixels are for, not this phone. This is for those who want and know how to control photo, video and audio creation. I've got full frame DSLRs, smaller mirrorless cameras but I also like to have control over my cellphone so this was a great step in my opinion.
That's fine, but a lot of people were forced here by the Note 7 blowing up. Android people don't want iPhones and not many people buy their phones outright (Pixel). When the top gun gets taken out it makes for a weird environment when people are forced to fill gaps with things they really don't want. There is the edge 7 but it's smaller and the edge screen was trash. Like I said it's a solid phone and is faster than the Note 7. It's just missing somethings I am used too.