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so is that pretty much it for ROMS?

Before I rooted I would read all these posts about how great the roms would be after Sprint released 2.1. So finally I rooted this weekend, and as I look through all the ROMs they all have major issues, and a lot of the major players have moved on to the EVO. So is that it. As soon as 2.1 comes to us we are left with a bunch of roms that don't work any better, or worse, then stock? That is unless I'm willing to cut out all of HTC and Google software.
Please give me advice as to what I do with this rooted phone now.

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Before I rooted I would read all these posts about how great the roms would be after Sprint released 2.1. So finally I rooted this weekend, and as I look through all the ROMs they all have major issues, and a lot of the major players have moved on to the EVO. So is that it. As soon as 2.1 comes to us we are left with a bunch of roms that don't work any better, or worse, then stock? That is unless I'm willing to cut out all of HTC and Google software.
Please give me advice as to what I do with this rooted phone now.
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Not all of the phones have major issues if u read a lot of the roms they tell if they have any. Also there r stock roms that can be overclocked. We've had three or four devs leave to the evo. That not the end of the world plus they left with final full working roms. If ur not happy with something then for it itself or realize nothing is perfect and that these devs spend a lot of there free time cooking there roms and get real tired of hearing people complain about something that us free. Be a little grateful. Read, search, to a little homework and then ask the questions u have inside ur head before u post a dumb question

Look around, no one here is going to hold your hand.
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I would chalk up the majority of the "user problems" to user error such as not wiping between flashes or bad 3rd party software with memory leaks or preventing the phone from sleeping...
Sadly a good number of devs went on to the Evo, even worse is some left in the mid of new releases without fixing some bugs.

Even though a couple of the dev's have moved on, there are still some great ones working on the hero. There are at least 6 or 7 fully functioning roms built on 2.1 right now and there's even some movement on 2.2.

vidsid said:
Even though a couple of the dev's have moved on, there are still some great ones working on the hero. There are at least 6 or 7 fully functioning roms built on 2.1 right now and there's even some movement on 2.2.
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As soon as 2.2 is fully functional I'm gonna make a rom of my own with it and I've got my second rom comming soon to 2.1 woohoo lol

Lol, I have been a member here for more then a year, but I don't post because I know what you get here when you post, I had 2 people call my question dumb or call me ungrateful..
Anyways, I was not being mean to the devs. I think their feelings are still intact (those who have not left)
As for reading and searching the forums, which the "positive" posters repeat like a mantra.... well I have been reading, I've been reading like crazy, and All I see are problems with the Roms because no one ever posts positive feedback.
However, I gather from those more productive posts here that the ROMs are very good quality. So from here ill try them out myself, and refrain from posting again for the next year.
Thank you and sorry to all those with tender feelings who where offended by the simplest of posts.

Just an FYI for everyone Fresh just put out a 2.5.2 BETA to donors.
I assume he will leave this one in 100% working order before he dumps the hero for good.
I think he said in the email something along the lines of "last build before FINAL" but don't quote my quote.
I haven't run a damaged ROM in weeks - I went from him to Darch which I feel is the end all.

Papa Smurf151 said:
As soon as 2.2 is fully functional I'm gonna make a rom of my own with it and I've got my second rom comming soon to 2.1 woohoo lol
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Blue echo????
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Kcarpenter said:
Just an FYI for everyone Fresh just put out a 2.5.2 BETA to donors.
I assume he will leave this one in 100% working order before he dumps the hero for good.
I think he said in the email something along the lines of "last build before FINAL" but don't quote my quote.
I haven't run a damaged ROM in weeks - I went from him to Darch which I feel is the end all.
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WERE at
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Yeah, I'm thinking DarchDroid is the end-all-be-all, especially with Darch and Cyanogen working together to bring CyanogenMod 6 to the Hero.

rulyskull said:
WERE at
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I can't give a link, Fresh would be mad a me. Give it a few days and hell have a post in the dev thread.

Kcarpenter said:
I can't give a link, Fresh would be mad a me. Give it a few days and hell have a post in the dev thread.
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Or he can go to geekfor.me and donate to flipz to get access to the beta testing

rulyskull said:
Blue echo????
Sent from my HERO200
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That is my first rom. Coming next is Red dawn to 2.1 roms. I might convert them over when froyo hits

Oxrod said:
.... well I have been reading, I've been reading like crazy, and All I see are problems with the Roms because no one ever posts positive feedback.
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That's odd. I see people in DamageControl and Darchdroid thanking the devs all the time. I haven't had any major issues at all and very few minor ones.

subcypher said:
That's odd. I see people in DamageControl and Darchdroid thanking the devs all the time. I haven't had any major issues at all and very few minor ones.
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Agreed. I get them in my rom thread also. But I also get feed back if things don't which I appreciate cause then I can fix it

subcypher said:
That's odd. I see people in DamageControl and Darchdroid thanking the devs all the time. I haven't had any major issues at all and very few minor ones.
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Agreed. I get them in my rom thread also. But I also get feed back if things don't which I appreciate cause then I can fix it
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OK OK, I'm Wrong. You are right. The person who made this thread is a big dummy who didn't read anything at all, and is a fine example of whats wrong with this website and n00bs in general.

Oxrod said:
OK OK, I'm Wrong. You are right. The person who made this thread is a big dummy who didn't read anything at all, and is a fine example of whats wrong with this website and n00bs in general.
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Lmao maybe u need a bath to get all the sand out of the unmentionable places lmao

Aloysius 2.1 is rock solid, fast, chocked full of goodies, and did I say, STABLE. Blows any stock Sprint ROM out of the water. DarchDroid 2.7 is good and fast if you like AOSP. And I liked RegawMOD a lot too (use Honeybun OC kernel for extra speed). Plenty of others out there as well. I really liked the Blue ROM but my Hero won't load it. Just try them and quit worrying about it. Use apps2sd and then nandroid and you can go back and forth without losing your apps.

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I think he said in the email something along the lines of "last build before FINAL" but don't quote my quote.
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Last build before "FINAL" just means the last non-beta release before an official / final release .

Cyanogenmod for Vibrant? How close are we?

I've been following the progress of the Cyanogenmod development for the Vibrant lately and it seems to be moving pretty quickly, i.e. there already booting into the main UI, I believe. Anyway, I'm still wondering if anyone out there has even a rough estimate of when it will be available for the Vibrant? Thanks in advance.
-bobofosho123

It's done when it's done.

bobofosho123 said:
I've been following the progress of the Cyanogenmod development for the Vibrant lately and it seems to be moving pretty quickly, i.e. there already booting into the main UI, I believe. Anyway, I'm still wondering if anyone out there has even a rough estimate of when it will be available for the Vibrant? Thanks in advance.
-bobofosho123
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Some time in the near, or distant future. One of Cyanogens pet peeves are people asking when it will be there whenever they are able to get it done. All of the dev's have loved ones, jobs etc. We can give estimates all day long ranging from early September to late October/November. Sadly the only ones that do know would be Wes.

talltexan said:
Some time in the near, or distant future. One of Cyanogens pet peeves are people asking when it will be there whenever they are able to get it done. All of the dev's have loved ones, jobs etc. We can give estimates all day long ranging from early September to late October/November. Sadly the only ones that do know would be Wes.
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thanks for the reply, I know all of the devs have other obligations, i.e. there lives. I'm in no huge hurry for froyo, although it would be very nice, I'll just wait for the official update if it ever comes.

bobofosho123 said:
thanks for the reply, I know all of the devs have other obligations, i.e. there lives. I'm in no huge hurry for froyo, although it would be very nice, I'll just wait for the official update if it ever comes.
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We don't even know if 6.1 will be in store for us.
6.0 update from Cyanogen
Things that aren’t in 6.0. but may be in 6.1
Vibrant support
Wimax, HDMI, or FM radio on the EVO
Apps2EXT
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bobofosho123 said:
thanks for the reply, I know all of the devs have other obligations, i.e. there lives. I'm in no huge hurry for froyo, although it would be very nice, I'll just wait for the official update if it ever comes.
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if you arent in a hurry for it then why are you asking for an eta? why dont you go and try to get it working? if you dont contribute anything dont expect stuff from people, no one owes you anything.

98classic said:
if you arent in a hurry for it then why are you asking for an eta? why dont you go and try to get it working? if you dont contribute anything dont expect stuff from people, no one owes you anything.
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I obviously care, and I would like it soon, but I'm not going to hound Wes or any other devs about it, and I don't think posting a question in a thread counts. I'm not a dev and I can't code, so the best I can do is beta/alpha test, and if no one helps me that's perfectly fine.

*1 in the annointing. Cyanogen ftw..
Lovellkid

lol nice I think were about 3 weeks away from a release considering we will get the update then, and the rest will follow after that ...
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Col.Kernel said:
Looking in the mirror as you speak?
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Man I really started one hell of a flame war here, lol .

Honestly Im in NO big hurry for CM6 to come to the Vibrant. I mean I have two other devices running CM6 so I'm enjoying the fact that Vibrant ROMs for now are something of a different nature.
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talltexan said:
Kings in waiting, we are waiting for Cyanogen to anoint us.
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What is soo good bout cyanogen
Does he make goood firmware updates?
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While I understand no one wants to give an ETA, but it would be nice to know if it is 20, 50, 60 percent done for example.
I dont see the problem asking this question

tribalb said:
Lol I was being flamed in the fm radio thread just shooting a suggestion. Can we get a rant and rave section and piss each other off. Personally im liking the TW ui. If any ROM comes out still holding the TW ui then ill be happy. Otherwise im just sticking to what I have.
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What draws you to the UI? cause ADW has the sides scrolling option that TW does but you can use themes and such.

Ive seen the adw drawer. It is very similar and I like the convience of the scrolling bottom on the home screen. But im not too sure of stability. I heavily modded my g1. And from time to time I would get force closes. Im trying to minimize the mods on this phone. The adw drawer is not bad. But right now its not something I want on the phone
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The TW drawer is nice, on my phone ADW doesn't load right. When I first go to the tray it gets stuck in a loop where it keeps wanting to load the tray it just can't. After about 5 tries it usually loads. The stock icon's look better than the adw galaxy s theme, and even when I say use stock icons it doesn't use the phones stock icons.

aawww, I missed a flame war.
What's a good flame without little old me?
lol jp
I like TW too.
I like some of the samsung apps over the stock ones.
I'm not as interested in CM6 as I am in Froyo Period.
I would like to see a sense rom, but i doubt that will happen.

Thread closed and cleaned up.

Flashable 2.3 rom will never come 2 vibrant

It's starting to look like a 2.3 rom will never come to vibrant

Hdub said:
It's starting to look like a 2.3 rom will never come to vibrant
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I'm using CM7 right now, as are many others on this forum. It's up to you if you think it's a daily driver or not, but it's there, right now.

Patience, there's two people working on it (not together) xboarder, and krylon. Its hard to make a 2.3 from scratch.

Cm7 should be out of beta for i9000 pretty soon. Just be patient.

Remember when people questioned if the G1 would ever get updated? You know... the 3 year old Grandpa of all Android phones.
IT is running a newer version of the OS than my Vibrant. Have faith and patience man.

The same old 2.2 roms passing around, people editing icons & backgrounds, changing boot screens & apps. But at the end of the day there all froyo. eugene's macnutR14 is the most customized rom. bionix is nice but doesn't have video calls on the dialer. you can metamorph, ninjamorph, flash, push, oc your phone but its still 2.2 froyo
I want to see all the 2.3 gingerbread affects on vibrant the scrolling animation, the crt animation the camera app, the downloads app where they at holla
I can modify my own 2.2 rom theres so many to take stuff from. stop playing with each others roms work on 2.3 are you guys devs or are you editors cause it looks like besides a few your all editors
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Oh God here we go again...
via XDA App

Okay, I'm starting to get annoyed at these kind of threads that come from ppl that obviously have no clue in what it takes to build a ROM from the ground on up. Just because android is open source doesn't mean that samsung's kernels are and we pretty much need compatible ones for our ROMs to work. Meanwhile, there are at least 2 teams working on gingerbread ROMs right now. I dunno about you but I'd rather have a fully stable 2.2/2.2.1 ROM out while we have the source than to take my chances and possibly brick my phone on a bug infested build of gingerbread.
Sent from my Bionix-V 1.2 powered Vibrant.

Hdub said:
...where they at holla
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I laughed at this.
You sound like a troll

I'm just upset that there is not honeycomb 3.0 rom that transforms your phone into a tablet is not out yet. i heard from the magical elf that sits on my shoulder that it would come out soon. that's why i say screw elves gnomes never lie to you.

Well I heard 2012 is the end of the world. I'm just wishing 2012 rolls around a lot faster then expected....
Aren't they only phones to have official 2.3 the nexus'? Quit yappin and start coding . Lol jk....

These devs work hard to get the new roms out. And to ask 'em to stopp bullcrapping and start on a new one is malarkey. Malarkey, I tells ya!
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Hdub said:
It's starting to look like a 2.3 rom will never come to vibrant
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Is this based on any real information or is this pure speculation caused by emotional insecurity?

This guy seems like a "pretty experienced dev" if you know what I mean...

dude where have you been?...TW did a port and its a flashable zip and it woeks wonders

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This guy seems like a "pretty experienced dev" if you know what I mean...
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"can you tell me what source is?" hahaha

Flash Cyanogenmod 7 and bam 2.3.2 they even throw in the nice screen lock effect so quit trolling

krylon360 said:
"can you tell me what source is?" hahaha
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That will be the funniest post for a long time to come.

Hexmaster93 said:
Flash Cyanogenmod 7 and bam 2.3.2 they even throw in the nice screen lock effect so quit trolling
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But do they have the screen on animation? No but seriously non cm7 does have it, but the video I saw it doesnt.
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its there scrizz didnt have it enabled i guess but go to settings ->cyanogenmod settings -> display and enable it

Fascinate development, dead?

Update: development is not dead, JT has resurrected it...Cm7 is amazing!
Forgive me if upset a few people with this post, but is it me or has the dev scene for this device died?
I remember the old school days when I had a G1 on T-mobile, we had a new rom practically every other day! I would hate to not to give credit to the amazing devs we have for our devices like JT and company but as of late things seem have died .
I remember a few months back devs were saying, we cant do much because we dont have froyo source...now we do and the scene looks identical. I pruchased this device because of its "raw power" which back in November was unrivaled, but looking at the vibrant forums and the epic there's tons of roms to choose from, VZW gets no love.
Before you guys get upset and some of my remarks, please understand my POV. Lastly, I realize that devs dont get payed to do this and do it as hobby thus I have no reason to complain, so this is just an opinion....let me know if you guys feel the same or not......

There's still a ton of development work, just nothing totally new recently. Everybody seems to be working on what is already there, just fixing and updating and whatnot.
Sent from my CM7 SCH-i500

What we are waiting on now is GB source.... LOL
In short you are pretty much right. Mostly everyone has moved on to bigger and better things. Now that all the spring goodies are coming out there are less people here to develop.
What we are waiting for really is someone to step up to the plate and take over. The devs that we did have provided a great foundation for someone else to work on.
That being said... the phone is still overpriced for what it is and Samsung has provided some practically unusable code to start with, from my understanding at least.

I can see the Vibrant forum being busy, as they have CM7 now, and likely other AOSP and AOSP based ROMs now, plus TW based ROMs. Not sure about the Epic, but I think they have a semi-functional AOSP base as well, and the Nexus S going the Sprint probably helped them out significantly. However, we're stuck basically with what Samsung gave us. The source did help out significantly for kernels, as it gave us something to work from that we didn't have before. However, the platform source did nothing. Also, there are only so many ways you can configure a ROM based on the stock software. If jt and kaos can get the last few pieces of CM7 fixed up, I'm sure you'd see development take off again, but until that happens, or until we get a new release or source, it will likely be semi-stagnant around here.

JT is working on cm7 I assure you. Latest build was today released in irc. Based on .35 kernel. Everything works but radio and sensors. So that's really good work if you ask me. He'll get it up to speed, jt is a very clever Guy.
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tonu42 said:
JT is working on cm7 I assure you. Latest build was today released in irc. Based on .35 kernel. Everything works but radio and sensors. So that's really good work if you ask me. He'll get it up to speed, jt is a very clever Guy.
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Wait!!!!! As in camera works????

starscream84 said:
Wait!!!!! As in camera works????
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Yeah, if camera and MMS work, and he gets the sensors/radio working, the man is a God, a MACHINE. Well, I look forward to that.

Evil fascination came out with a new build today, he is also planning on a bunch of themes for it (2 released already, 5 more to come I think)

well this phone technically is out dated in terms of whats come out since. and we finally have workjng froyo roms which is what all the hype was about. even with home computers you cant keep updating, eventually things dont matching up. just like with these phones. im happy with my fascinate and everything thats been released.
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Evil Fascination had an update tonight. It runs fantastic and the theme is awesome. Im sure the community rom is going to have a nice update soon to.
The devs for this phone have been fantastic, they made this phone worth having even when it seemed like 2.2 would never see the light of day.
After the experience I have had with the fascinate my next phone will for sure be a nexus. Even if it means jumping ship to a different carrier.

tonu42 said:
JT is working on cm7 I assure you. Latest build was today released in irc. Based on .35 kernel. Everything works but radio and sensors. So that's really good work if you ask me. He'll get it up to speed, jt is a very clever Guy.
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Anybody know what punkkaos was talking about when he tweeted:
Looks like Coolya and gang have done some nifty kernel stuff for Fascinate users.
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JT and I were talking earlier and it seems like Coolya and the gang helped with some kernel fixes that seemed to have helped a lot. So if all goes well, we SHOULD have official CM7 support coming soon.
If anyone is wondering EVERYTHING is working, including hw/sw codecs, Bluetooth, wifi, etc. As stated before RIL functions and sensors are no worky, but JT said that radio was his messup and should be a quick fix. ;P
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development is relative...we never had a ton of kernels/roms/mods etc because we have a relatively small community
we still have several source built kernels, 2 versions of cm7 (one of which sounds like its advancing nicely) and several touchwiz based roms
if you want to really step back and look at things, we have mods from sbrissen no other phone has (or at least had first as they kang him quickly)...
we have miuiwiz which is a feat never done before (getting miui launcher working on anything but miui)
so for those that just sit around and wait for stuff to be released so they can flash every 5 minutes...too bad...go get a more popular phone so you can flash the kanged rom after kanged rom every day
or you can actually learn to do stuff for yourself like many have

nitsuj17 said:
development is relative...we never had a ton of kernels/roms/mods etc because we have a relatively small community
we still have several source built kernels, 2 versions of cm7 (one of which sounds like its advancing nicely) and several touchwiz based roms
if you want to really step back and look at things, we have mods from sbrissen no other phone has (or at least had first as they kang him quickly)...
we have miuiwiz which is a feat never done before (getting miui launcher working on anything but miui)
so for those that just sit around and wait for stuff to be released so they can flash every 5 minutes...too bad...go get a more popular phone so you can flash the kanged rom after kanged rom every day
or you can actually learn to do stuff for yourself like many have
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^^^^exactly.
If you sit back and enjoy your phone with the new roms when they do come out, waiting for updates and new stuff comes quicker than you realize. Hmmm, I wonder who told me to enjoy what I have a while ago.... and in all honesty, do you really think the fascinate is out dated? My phone STILL runs circles around my bro in laws tbolt. And if anyone questions our devs ability....have you herd of punk kaos? Or jt1134? Or adrynalyn? Or sbrissen? If you are tired of waiting, go back to stock....you will realize what they have done for our phones.

I never once doubted their ability. Like I said in the OP , we a are lucky to have what we got. My point was that things seem to have died down, not sure if its the phone or the lack of interest. Back in november this was androids flagship device, and, I purchased it thinking that with its hardware and our bright developers, it was going to be a beast. I'm proud of the work done but until a fully working aosp like cm7 comes out, I dontt think ill be fascinated. All the touchwiz roms are fine but slow down eventually. Just expressing my opinion fellas.
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youngmack2k4 said:
I never once doubted their ability. Like I said in the OP , we a are lucky to have what we got. My point was that things seem to have died down, not sure if its the phone or the lack of interest. Back in november this was androids flagship device, and, I purchased it thinking that with its hardware and our bright developers, it was going to be a beast. I'm proud of the work done but until a fully working aosp like cm7 comes out, I dontt think ill be fascinated. All the touchwiz roms are fine but slow down eventually. Just expressing my opinion fellas.
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what do you mean "slow down eventually?" ive never noticed this
and was there ever a time when tons of roms/kernels were coming out aside from immediately after an ota/source code drop/leak?

nitsuj17 said:
what do you mean "slow down eventually?" ive never noticed this
and was there ever a time when tons of roms/kernels were coming out aside from immediately after an ota/source code drop/leak?
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@Nitsuj17 this is a classic case of something that all people struggle with: a selfish nature. We, as people, are never really satisfied with anything. I doubt even a FULLY functional CM7/GingerMIUI would please people. It's just our nature. We are insatiable. This is not a flame or an attack of the OP, it's just simply an indictment of all people, myself included. Just my $0.02.
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JT and I were talking earlier and it seems like Coolya and the gang helped with some kernel fixes that seemed to have helped a lot. So if all goes well, we SHOULD have official CM7 support coming soon.
If anyone is wondering EVERYTHING is working, including hw/sw codecs, Bluetooth, wifi, etc. As stated before RIL functions and sensors are no worky, but JT said that radio was his messup and should be a quick fix. ;P
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So if he can get the radio working, we can get official CM7 support? JT is the man....

When we all probably switch phones we will still have a beast mp3 player if you ask me.
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just one last thought...as for what is/isnt being worked on and released
jt and pk are still working on cm7 and seem to be getting closer and closer to a very polished product
imnuts and nemesis still work on kernels
com rom and miuiwiz are still being worked...and will have lots of new features when they are out...these things take time though, we could have constant updates or less updates, but of more substance

Whats with the influx of all these roms all over?

Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant

ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...

Solution: DONT FLASH IT!

littleemp said:
Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I think its even worst... Isnt he implying that we shloud blame sammcrip for releasing FCM and starting this influx of ROMS? It just amazes me how ungratefull and lazzy people can be.
Thanks all the devs for all this ROMs! I can use the search feature and filter all the junk from the good stuff. UHAaaaa! Im a smart n00b.
Peace.
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littleemp said:
Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I don't think he is bashing anyone. He is just pointing out that once anyone with little skill or talent can put other people's "tweaks" together and produce a rom in a few clicks you forgo quality for quantity

I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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jokersax11 said:
I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...

Reread the op
endlessevo said:
I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
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jokersax11 said:
Reread the op
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I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...

ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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The new roms are from cm9 kangs, which fcm has nothing to do with, and rdanner's ports. Which also have nothing to do with fcm. We also have Nottach making a new rom based on 2.3.6, and marko doing the same thing. Once again, neither have any affiliation with fcm... So what's the problem with development kicking off?
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Well I thought a development boom was a good thing. If you read descriptions they might say alpha build and if you think some of the newer roms aren't as high quality stick with what you know. I personally like choices and trying new things. Waiting patiently for miui to improve haven't touched cm9 probably wont until camera works. Just consider things and read what works before you flash things.
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endlessevo said:
I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
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In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.

Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant

ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
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Because there isn't a whole lot more to do to our phones except optimizing what we have already, and porting over android 4.0. Our dev team isn't done, but the groundbreaking work that you want is.
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BTW, I am really stoked for CM9 and the future beyond.. The work that goes into all this is difficult. Maybe deep down inside, It is me just getting bored with the hobby?
Sorry about the post, and I respect all the guys who do, do this.

I don't think you quite understand what kang means.
All unofficial cm roms are kangs, even ones that are in development to become official cm. Like mine. To become official everything major must work without breaking other phones. So if you want official cm9 someone must fix the problems. The little groundbreaking work you are wanting is the kangs. Yes the atrix team laid ground work to get cm9 ported but they stopped working on it. I was given cm9 only a few weeks ago when the photon cm dev moved to a different phone. He didn't even have cm9 up. Only cm7. I'm not making a temporary kang to satisfy ics thirst. I'm making the fixes to go official.
Also if you read up only one cm9 is current and going forward. Guess who's
Btw I don't even have an atrix, I'm blind building
ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
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Yep, your probably correct
Again, not bashing anyone.
AND... Thats freaking nuts to be blind building. My mind cant work that way

Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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sspa said:
In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
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I did check to see if that's what he was being so butt hurt about. I figured because it was a second thought to his original rant and the fact joker defended the wrong part of the rant he knew why he was defending himself.
His complaints about the KANG's was not being able to tell the difference between them, not that they were simple tweaks turned into roms.

Long day. Plus complaining about free work equals thread
xhazk said:
Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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