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I work and travel in and around the washington dc area and I live in frederick maryland. when I first got the evo (day one), the 3g speeds in my area were really good. Say 2MB up and 2MB down. Now I get between 512K down and it's really erratic. Today I'm traveling and am in the NJ area and the speeds are horrible here too.
These are major markets for any carrier. Anyone noticing the same? Could it be congestion perhaps??
Haven't really been checking exact speeds, but just using the browser I have noticed it being slower lately. I was getting nervous it was something internal that might have changed from flashing all these different roms. I doubt it though, hopefully its the network getting ready for 4g!!
same here. when I first got the evo, very quick data speeds. close to 2mb down at work and still descent speeds at home. Now Im roaming in my house half the time, ran a speed test last night and twice got 25kbs, before I would give 750kbs - 1mbs! Called Sprint twice now and they said they have outages through Pennsylvania. Not sure whats up but they said it will be fixed soon. initially they claimed no issues then after prodding them to check the tower, they changed their tune a little. I do get good data in most places but clearly they are having problems in certain areas of Pittsburgh.
been really slow in philly past few days 3g and 4g. seems to have gotten better this morning... 4mbps on 4g and 1.2 on 3g
Blame the world cup
Pretty sure the drop on network speeds is from everyone watching the world cup on sprint tv...
Notice the same... very fast 3g (2mbpsish) speeds June 4th to 6th... after prl update and ota update... very slow (about 500ish)... I went into Samsclub the other day to get a second evo for gf... and noticed 2mbps on 3g again...
My geography hasn't changed...
I work in Hunt Valley, Maryland. The first week, my data was snappy. Now my 3g is crawling. CS did say there were towers down in that area. I live in York, Pa and my data still runs fast there so I'm guessing it is a tower issue. Hopefully they get this fixed ASAP...
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I live in Jacksonville Florida and have the same issues. DL is about 300 kbps average. This really sucks. Hopefully they are tweaking the towers for 4G or something. We have 4G now sprinkled around Jacksonville and Orange Park Florida. Rumor has it that Sprint is going to fully unleash 4G in August (Jacksonville).
I'm in the Denver Tech Center area and it seems like Sprint is fixing the 3G issues. I'm seeing about 1.5Mbps average now.
anyone know if tmobiles hspa is better than sprints wimax
By actual performance yes, but by technicality and service, that's not necessarily true.
What was nice about t-mobile hspa+ upgrade was they even sped up 3g service for regular 3g users. But their network is spotty unless you're in texas pretty much.
My friend with a t-mo TP2 never gets reliable speeds. Its always fluctuating. Idk about the G2 though with its hspa+
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I was under the impression that hspa+ requires certain hardware like wimax so the only phones that actually utalize the service are the g2 and mytouch 4g. Technically neither wimax nor hspa+ is really "4g" by the official definition, however, from what I've read, wimax is probably the closest we have right now. Hspa+ is an upgraded 3g network, like 3.5g. Both will run faster than 3g though so its more about what area you live in and the kind of coverage you get than which is faster. I know sprint doesn't have coverage in a lot of areas, but I'm not sure about tmobiles network.
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Yes and no..the reason why wimax right now is that speed is because sprint is only running it in 10mhz of spectrum..if they run it in larger mhz it will be faster...
overall though while HSPA+ on t-mobile you might get faster speeds it will diminish greatly..HSPA+ is not as efficient as wimax, thus cannot support as many simultaneous users as wimax can.
And yes HSPA+ upgrade should offer some benefit to HSPDA devices as well even if they cannot utilize the HSPA+ speeds..
Wimax is also suppose to offer lower latencies...but I don't know if that can be seen or not..I do get around 100ms when I test which isn't too bad...but some got a lot higher...
The great thing about hspa+ and hsdpa is that the switch is made without affecting the user. There's no need to turn anything on or off and there's no message popping up in your taskbar. You can go from GPRS to EDGE to UMTS to HSDPA to HSPA+ or any combination of the 5 without doing anything. Your internet just gets faster or slower depending on where you are. Tmo has good building penetration and MUCH faster speeds than any other network today.
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Herd sprint is leasing the 4g curently for verizon and tmoible(gsm cdma) I don't care its what I was told. As far as speed? Id like to see 4g at all.
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i have the g2, on my epic in my area i would get 2.2-2.4 Mbps on tmo in same area i get a much larger coverage of the hsdpa speeds and i get about 3.5-5.0Mbps down. i have yet to see hspa+ in my about phone but i do get faster speeds with tmo.
the thing i like is its using the same radio so i get the increased speeds without loss of battery unlike wimax
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I was under the impression that hspa+ requires certain hardware like wimax so the only phones that actually utalize the service are the g2 and mytouch 4g. Technically neither wimax nor hspa+ is really "4g" by the official definition, however, from what I've read, wimax is probably the closest we have right now. Hspa+ is an upgraded 3g network, like 3.5g. Both will run faster than 3g though so its more about what area you live in and the kind of coverage you get than which is faster. I know sprint doesn't have coverage in a lot of areas, but I'm not sure about tmobiles network.
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+1 for mentioning the truth of 4g!
I loved my G1 with its internet speeds and voice reception when I lived in New England and its speed kicked the **** out of Spring 4g service but when I moved out to the midwest I couldn't get 3g barely anywhere yet alone HSPA+ and Sprint is much better overall out here. So pretty much its better as long as you live in a highly populated area that they deem is worthy for their service.
I had the G2 but due to my house being in a t-mobile black hole I decided to switch to sprint.
I live/work in an area that has both HSPA+ and Wimax and in the areas that I had a strong signal, HSPA+ would d/l at 2-6Mbps and with Wimax I average 4-5Mbps.
For me, T-mobiles coverage was spotty. Sprints has been much better.
As for the ease of switching between networks, I had a really hard time with t-mobile staying on HSPA+ even when there was a decent signal. It was much more prone to staying on the slower 3G network unless I manually forced it to stay on HSPA+
IMO, Long term, since Wimax and LTE will be the prevailing technologies, T-mobile will most likely be changing their network over at some point. HSPA+ is just helping them to buy some time so they don't fall to far behind in the carrier data race.
It all depends on what market you are in. I live in the midwest and TMobile coverage sucks all around. ATT isn't much better. ATT still doesn't even have 3G in the city I live in, which is only 10 miles north of the biggest metro area in the state. (I laugh at my one buddy who has an iPhone) It's basically Sprint, Verizon or US Cellular if you want quality coverage here.
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i have the g2, on my epic in my area i would get 2.2-2.4 Mbps on tmo in same area i get a much larger coverage of the hsdpa speeds and i get about 3.5-5.0Mbps down. i have yet to see hspa+ in my about phone but i do get faster speeds with tmo.
the thing i like is its using the same radio so i get the increased speeds without loss of battery unlike wimax
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I'm not sure what your 4g signal is where you live, but even in Denver, where 4g isn't official yet, i get anywhere from 4-9 Mbps. Then again, it isn't Live yet, so it could go down as more people start using the 4g service.
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I'm not sure what your 4g signal is where you live, but even in Denver, where 4g isn't official yet, i get anywhere from 4-9 Mbps. Then again, it isn't Live yet, so it could go down as more people start using the 4g service.
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Thats about what I get here in Baltimore and we had WiMax first. I average about 6-7 Mbps inside my house
Funny, I live in philadephia, pa area. I have epic, 2 of my friends have tmobile {hd2 and tmobile gs phone}.
I get 2-4 mbps, they get 3-4, shockingly their upload is better as well. Seems their faster coverage is better on the outer areas of my 4g coverage and get it where I can not sometimes[suburbs and south nj]
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Sprint wimax seems pretty useless here in san francisco. It gets pretty good data rates when it works but you pretty much have to be outdoors in the open. The main problem though is that it's very spotty and every time it falls back to 3g or switches back up to 4g there's no connectivity AT ALL for at least 30 seconds or so, which makes it more or less unusable. I just leave it turned off. Also the battery doesn't even last half a day with it enabled.
One problem I've noticed w/Sprint 4G in Miami/Ft. Lauderdale -- your connection drops & IP address changes whenever you 1)get ip lease from a tower, then 2)move somewhere more than 1 tower-hop away into a new tower's area with 3 bars of signal strength.
The moment you hit 3 bars, the connection drops to release your ip address back to the first tower... but the phone will have no connectivity at all for a few seconds, and won't try to reconnect to 4g for a few minutes unless you manually toggle 4g off & on to force an immediate reconnect.
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It almost seemed like every other test I ran would alternate between upstream throughput of 1.5 Mbps, and then 384 kbps, even in the same position. I took some photos of the Inspire 4G showing this behavior just a minute apart in an area with very good AT&T signal.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4304/att-update-enables-hsupa-on-motorola-atrix-htc-inspire
I am getting the same results. I cannot for the life of me get consistent >1mbps upload speeds.
I think it's fair to say ATT has the worst 4g network out of all the big players who are getting over 10mbps download and a constant 1 mbps upload while we are stuck with 1.5/300 with a max of 5/1 on a good run.
I'm using my phone around Seattle with the update and I can consistently get over 1Mbps upstream and about 3.5Mbps downstream
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It almost seemed like every other test I ran would alternate between upstream throughput of 1.5 Mbps, and then 384 kbps, even in the same position. I took some photos of the Inspire 4G showing this behavior just a minute apart in an area with very good AT&T signal.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4304/att-update-enables-hsupa-on-motorola-atrix-htc-inspire
I am getting the same results. I cannot for the life of me get consistent >1mbps upload speeds.
I think it's fair to say ATT has the worst 4g network out of all the big players who are getting over 10mbps download and a constant 1 mbps upload while we are stuck with 1.5/300 with a max of 5/1 on a good run.
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These are the exact same results I have been seeing, so I can relate. Either AT&T just has a crappy network (the most likely), or they have found another way to cap based on frequency of downloads/uploads. IE capping 75% and uncapping 25% to reduce overall loads on the network. Just my theory.
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I'm using my phone around Seattle with the update and I can consistently get over 1Mbps upstream and about 3.5Mbps downstream
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I get the same. SeaTown!!!!
Yea I agree we do have the worst 4g network, even metro pcs LTE kicks the *hit out of my atrix here in Dallas oh well, maybe in the future they will improve. Im getting about 6.56 down and 1.6 up right now in the late hours of the night and about 3.1 down and 1.1 up during the peak hours in the day, so its not too bad I guess.
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Yea I agree we do have the worst 4g network, even metro pcs LTE kicks the *hit out of my atrix here in Dallas oh well, maybe in the future they will improve. Im getting about 6.56 down and 1.6 up right now in the late hours of the night and about 3.1 down and 1.1 up during the peak hours in the day, so its not too bad I guess.
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This isn't AT&T's 4g, its just what we should have been getting with 3g all along. And the reason PCS LTE network rocks AT&T so hard is they just leech off Verizons LTE towers which actually have 4g enabled.
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Yea I agree we do have the worst 4g network, even metro pcs LTE kicks the *hit out of my atrix here in Dallas oh well, maybe in the future they will improve. Im getting about 6.56 down and 1.6 up right now in the late hours of the night and about 3.1 down and 1.1 up during the peak hours in the day, so its not too bad I guess.
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Yeah comparing hsupa to lte is like comparing apples to oranges.
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This isn't AT&T's 4g, its just what we should have been getting with 3g all along. And the reason PCS LTE network rocks AT&T so hard is they just leech off Verizons LTE towers which actually have 4g enabled.
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I thought Metro's LTE network was their own? As far as I recall they actually lit it up quite a bit before Verizon did?
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Yea I agree we do have the worst 4g network, even metro pcs LTE kicks the *hit out of my atrix here in Dallas oh well, maybe in the future they will improve. Im getting about 6.56 down and 1.6 up right now in the late hours of the night and about 3.1 down and 1.1 up during the peak hours in the day, so its not too bad I guess.
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Another Dallasite! I don't know where you are, but my iPhone 4 in the Park Cities gets about 5Mbps on average with 1.23Mbps on the upload side. My uncle's Atrix was just updated and he can easily pull 7-8Mbps at his house in Allen, which supposedly has less backhaul than Dallas. I know Plano is a weak-spot for AT&T speeds, however.
Also getting low speeds here:
3.5mbps down, 0.3mbps up
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Also getting low speeds here:
3.5mbps down, 0.3mbps up
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Me too, I'm gonna switch carriers when my contract expires next year. This whole Atrix fiasco is really getting on my nerves. Between the locked bootloader and crappy network speeds I've had about enough. It's too much to ask for the network to change so I'm gonna change networks and munufacturer while I'm at it. Screw AT&T and Motorola they both suck.
so before i updated to a new radio (12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03)
i ran speedtest and i was getting about 0.44Mbps
after the new radio update now im getting 0.37Mbps on HSDPA :/ how can i increase the crappy speed? I understand some 4g coverage isnt that good in the u.s but to get speeds that low on hsdpa.. theres gotta be something wrong
Yeah, that shouldn't be right. I can consistently pull 5-8mbps with an hspa signal, did you do the efs wipe after flashing the new radio and clear dalvik cache?
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so before i updated to a new radio (12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03)
i ran speedtest and i was getting about 0.44Mbps
after the new radio update now im getting 0.37Mbps on HSDPA :/ how can i increase the crappy speed? I understand some 4g coverage isnt that good in the u.s but to get speeds that low on hsdpa.. theres gotta be something wrong
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Are you sure that you're not being throttled for going over your data cap? Those speeds are super low. Like the other reply I regularly pull 8mbps down and 3mbps up.
Sounds like your over your cap. No other reason that should be happening unless you have no bars and are in a basement.
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No, that's not throttled speeds. I was throttled and consistently got around 0.07 Mbps down and up.
I can see these 8 Mbps down speeds being plausible if you live in a metropolitan area, but if you live out in the middle of nowhere like me, the best download speed I have gotten is around 3 Mbps, but typically around 1.3-1.5 Mbps.
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No, that's not throttled speeds. I was throttled and consistently got around 0.07 Mbps down and up.
I can see these 8 Mbps down speeds being plausible if you live in a metropolitan area, but if you live out in the middle of nowhere like me, the best download speed I have gotten is around 3 Mbps, but typically around 1.3-1.5 Mbps.
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I see my best speeds in the suburbs, with fewer users. My slower speeds happen in places like Seattle with tons of people on the network obviously. I believe just a generally slow area giving 1.5mbps ish, but there's something wrong when he's getting only 0.40mbps
I am now testing in the suburbs as I'm visiting home from college.
Also keep in mind signal also plays a large role. I was just downstairs where my signal was -103 dBm, and my download speed was about 1.8 Mbps. Just went upstairs, signal was about -89 dBm and download speed was about 4.0 Mbps (measured twice at each location). Interestingly, both were with UTMS connections.
Wow, -103! The phone has no connection at -113! Eek.
You've found your problem.
Try using the 3g turbocharged script
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Wow, -103! The phone has no connection at -113! Eek.
You've found your problem.
Try using the 3g turbocharged script
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That's not even OP... you're referring to the post above yours? He's aware of the lack of signal, which is why he's quoting it and saying that even at -103 he gets 1.8mbps.
I live in Virginia Beach, near Norfolk Airport, and at my house, 4G speeds are god-awful slow.
I did some exploring, and eventually got a -64dBm signal..
The speedtest results were absolutely pitiful. Less than 3mbps down, and for some reason, 4mbps up. Should I call Verizon Wireless about this, cause from the looks of it... seems like the 4G tower I'm connected to has very poor backhaul..
Maybe that tower is overloaded?
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Psh, if youre upset with that, look at me on simple mobile, the MOST i get on their 3G is about 300kb dl / 100kb ul per second.
Its horrible ..... but hey, you get what you pay for ($40 a month...)
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Maybe that tower is overloaded?
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I've considered that, but LTE is still newish. Of all places, Virginia Beach, I just have a hard time believing that the speeds here are lower than in NYC because of overloading, cause here, I just doubt that there's THAT MANY people on 4G. And my pings are always less than 100ms whoch further hints the load isn't too high. On top of it all, uploads are 4-6mbps while downloads are now under 2mbps. I'm considering calling Verizon Wireless, but doubt they'd do anything :/
did you check the coverage maps?
Evet cok yavas.
Very slow
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did you check the coverage maps?
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I did, indeed the day it was "officially" turned on (It had been on for weeks before October 20th)
And was pleased to see that my address was in the dark red, not extended lte coverage. Then I got home and made a yukky face at my phone when I saw how slow it was at home and thought "This can't be right..."
Today, I'm noticing much better speeds, I'm guessing they added another T2 line to it, as its still to slow to be a T3 line (I got as fast as 8mbps down, and 4 up, but that was at 4AM LOLOLOL