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NAND Flash for Android!! For Real?

Anyone seen this thread in the polaris forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625200
They claim to have working ROM to flash directly to NAND for a few devices. (Not Blackstone though) So can a Android Blackstone ROM be far out?

to be honest this flash is pretty pointless until android has got rid of the bug that keeps causing it not to wake up because once thats fixed it will be stable enough to use as a rom but for the moment there not much point in it except for proof of concept

Yes, but this seems like a HUGE move forward. Some have said there would never be a flashable ROM for Android on WinMo phones, or at least a long time out.

slaming said:
to be honest this flash is pretty pointless until android has got rid of the bug that keeps causing it not to wake up because once thats fixed it will be stable enough to use as a rom but for the moment there not much point in it except for proof of concept
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It's far from pointless, it's now the way forward for the kaiser, polaris and vogue Android users, yes it's still in development, yes there are still issues, but it's yet another step to a single flashable nbh based system for ROM installation, thanks to this method we now have working gps, wifi, sleep, lower battery drain and faster systems than we did 2 months ago.
Yes there is still a lot of work to be done, but the progress over the last months has been outstanding.
Don't know if anyone is working on a Nand flashable installer for the Blackstone or not, but I think it's only a matter of time.

zenity said:
It's far from pointless, it's now the way forward for the kaiser, polaris and vogue Android users, yes it's still in development, yes there are still issues, but it's yet another step to a single flashable nbh based system for ROM installation, thanks to this method we now have working gps, wifi, sleep, lower battery drain and faster systems than we did 2 months ago.
Yes there is still a lot of work to be done, but the progress over the last months has been outstanding.
Don't know if anyone is working on a Nand flashable installer for the Blackstone or not, but I think it's only a matter of time.
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if like you said sleep is working it is worth flashing, i suppose i am constantly using android and am reseting every time it crashes but for some users this isn't viable at all

It's still experimental, I use it flashed for experimenting with, but it's still not stable enough for the average user, i carry an sd with a rom image if i really need to reflash back to winmo.
however it's in active development, and is getting more useable all the time.

zenity said:
It's still experimental, I use it flashed for experimenting with, but it's still not stable enough for the average user, i carry an sd with a rom image if i really need to reflash back to winmo.
however it's in active development, and is getting more useable all the time.
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this is really really exciting stuff how long do you think until this will be availible for the average user and if you need some more testers for this shot me a pm on how to do this and i will be more than willing

just been reading through that thread and by the looks of this flashing it onto your device seems to be much more stable people have been able to et gps working, but i'm confused whats the difference between a nand flash and a normal flash because from what i've been reading it seems as if you have to flash something then do the rest on your device. but i am looking into this and when i understand it, if its possible (with a few mods) i will flash on to touch hd, but from what i understand atm it doesn't seem possible its all just waiting for the devs atm

com'on theres gotta be some dev out there working on this is so please contact me i wonna help.

Ive heard by a friend that they have sucsessfully flased a iPhone with android. Can anyone confirm this? This is all i could find using our friend google

la3bna said:
Ive heard by a friend that they have sucsessfully flased a iPhone with android. Can anyone confirm this? This is all i could find using our friend google
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this wouldn't surprise me much but would also surprise me as well at the same time firstly due to the fact that android is taking over iphone os very rapidly and in my opinion for at least me i think it is far superior due to editabiltyconfused and things like that but i would be a bit surprised as this is apple and they really do lock there devices down alot, i mean i am typing this from a mac and i love it and i personally have never need windows on it and will never need it but it kinda seems quite unlikely if there aren't any videos or anything on youtube.

Just recieved my first HD2 from T-Mobile, so many roms, which one has it all

Thanks, sorry for the question, I'm obviously new to this.

oh of course man , anything for a new guy.. heres a link to a page that describes all the roms in detail , from here im sure youll be able to make your decision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?do=process

lol thats funny! gooluck finding one bro

imlegitcusimish said:
Thanks, sorry for the question, I'm obviously new to this.
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we all had to do our own research and testing...you should do the same for something i like not be the same as what you like.

In reality, its not a bad question. Imagine you were going to buy a car. You go to a mega lot with literally hundreds of different cars. How do you even start to narrow down what kind of car to buy?
I chose my rom based on three factors:
1) What I perceive to be the most stable
2) What I perceive to be the most popular
3) What I perceive to have the most features stock
Which is rather odd since I chose my car on none of those factors

not trying to pick sides here but i have tried pretty much all the roms here. right now i am really happy with Energy.. doesnt lock up. only downside you might find is it doesnt have the HTC messaging but that was the main problem with a lot of roms i tried. the app kept freezing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654504

After testing server roms, I've been most happy with Energy. Never freezes up on me EVER! It looks great, and comes with everything. The HTC Messaging app is absolute garbage. I'm glad the chef removed it. I love the Windows Mobile default app

Is it my phone or does the energy rom drain the battery????

Flash roms and find the one that works best for ya.

[Q] Which rom actually FULLY works?

I have yet to figure this out. There is always something wrong with all of these builds. By no means am I complaining because I couldn't do better but just want to know. As in fully I mean wifi tethering, phone speaker, camera, etc. I just want the basic froyo on my US T-Mobile. Nothing extra or fancy or without updating my radio. If I give someone my software info could they help me out? Thanks

fordking said:
I have yet to figure this out. There is always something wrong with all of these builds. By no means am I complaining because I couldn't do better but just want to know. As in fully I mean wifi tethering, phone speaker, camera, etc. I just want the basic froyo on my US T-Mobile. Nothing extra or fancy or without updating my radio. If I give someone my software info could they help me out? Thanks
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This is the wrong section for this question. But my everyday build is mdeejays http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
or Coredroid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8214568&postcount=1
They both work perfectly for me.

Read this page tell all new info added to kernel, most of the roms are fully working only some of them have few issues, ave personally not had many problems
Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646

mattc 1.8 with hastarin 7.1 - I can't find anything wrong in this combination, apart from the premature flash when taking photos in the dark. But everything else - is just the purest perfection
Ops and Devs - I know this thread is in the wrong place, but I would advise on letting this live, as it will prove that there is no such thing as best ROM. People will put different ROMs as their favourite - and at the end of the day I am sure that all of the variation will be mentioned at least once - hence proving the point

the annoying truth is most of the builds differ from person to person - so the best way to find out which build is best for you, well, you've just got to try it out for yourself!
if you're having problems, you may want to try changing your winmo rom, radio etc, just incase the problems that you're getting are to do with that

Raary101 said:
the annoying truth is most of the builds differ from person to person - so the best way to find out which build is best for you, well, you've just got to try it out for yourself!
if you're having problems, you may want to try changing your winmo rom, radio etc, just incase the problems that you're getting are to do with that
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I couldnt agree with you more.

NONE...
Either you get music skip, rotation problems, cam not flashing correctly or wifi and 3g not working correctly, bluetooth problems and sudden freezes, all a bit like good old Windows mobile really, but its getting there...soon it will be the best Android device available

As stated already.
All builds are different, and you will need to find the one that fits you best.

Any ROMs Available? Even OEM?

Are there any leads to a Samsung Focus flashable ROM yet? Even an OEM ROM? I'd really like to take my Focus back to 7004 and start over if possible.
Unfortunately, I tried to recover using Windows Phone Support Tool and it destroyed my ability to Unlock again. I was trying to revert back to my 7004 backup, but was not sure how to do it.
Now I'm concerned about not being able to get OEM or Chevron updates. That would bite!

I have been looking for a while, no luck
wish I had the knowledge to make a rom to backup 7004 before upgrading
hopefully some nice person will make a rom (preferably Rogers as less bloatware)

Don't expect a ROM for Focus anytime soon. There's simply no one working on it. I have a bricked device that needs a new ROM flash. Been waiting for months now!

UzEE said:
Don't expect a ROM for Focus anytime soon. There's simply no one working on it. I have a bricked device that needs a new ROM flash. Been waiting for months now!
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I'm hoping there is someone quietly working on it without posting their progress so they are not bombarded with questions and questions about when it will be released.
Please don't take offense if you've already done this, but have you already tried the Windows Phone Support Tool to try to get it going again? From what I saw when I ran it, the tool has the ability to download updates, and MAYBE ROM parts? It's just a thought.

There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.

ASPTHEONE said:
There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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How much do you want for it? I'm pretty dumb...

ASPTHEONE said:
There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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Would that not make you the dumb one for buying a phone that didn't have a stock rom in the first place? As is stands I think the stock rom is more than smooth enough. Yes there are things lacking and not as many tweakable options as android, but it is still very usable. Just be patient, it will come eventually.
Nobody seems to realize the disasters of Android when they first came out. We are already far ahead with WP7 on a timescale point of view.

Nobody is dumb here, we all just have different expectations from our devices.
Also, along the lines of time frames, WP7 is also ahead of the iPhone when it was released. It too had it's headaches, and correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we get cut/paste faster? And MultiTasking will be here WAY faster than iPhone got it.
Just be patient, and give it a little time to mature. It's coming along quite nicely, especially lately. And the ATT feet dragging on the update? I'd much rather they took a little extra time than see a bunch of people in these threads with bricked phones, or upgrades that didn't work as planned. That can kill an OS. I think the first Feb update showed them they need to be cautious, and that's exactly what they are doing. No, I don't like to wait, I'm as impatient as the next guy, sometimes more, but it will be worth it in the long run.

UPDATE!​
I was concerned that forcing the NoDo update and then using the Windows Recovery Tool had made my phone unable to receive the March NoDo update from ATT.
Well, I'm happy to say that I just plugged my phone in this morning, and I'm RIGHT NOW updating to the "Samsung update for Windows Phone".
WOOHOO!!!! I thought I was hosed...
Now, the question will be, Can I Unlock It? I doubt it, but at least I'm getting the actual Update from ATT. I'm hoping there is a firmware update included also. I'll let you know.

SuperSport said:
I'm hoping there is someone quietly working on it without posting their progress so they are not bombarded with questions and questions about when it will be released.
Please don't take offense if you've already done this, but have you already tried the Windows Phone Support Tool to try to get it going again? From what I saw when I ran it, the tool has the ability to download updates, and MAYBE ROM parts? It's just a thought.
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I did try to use the Windows Phone Support Tool, and even disected the code. It still needs signed FFUs from Microsoft to flash to the device. You can't just make it flash your custom ROMs.
It would really be awesome is someone was indeed working on a ROM for Focus right now, because then I would be able to bring my phone back to life. But unfortunately, I've been wating since february and it hasn't happened, and there have been people who have been waiting even longer.
I can't even sell the device to anyone because it doesn't even boot up. Its just a paperweight now. It was a bad decision to buy this phone. Should have gone with the Omnia 7 instead.

UzEE said:
I did try to use the Windows Phone Support Tool, and even disected the code. It still needs signed FFUs from Microsoft to flash to the device. You can't just make it flash your custom ROMs.
It would really be awesome is someone was indeed working on a ROM for Focus right now, because then I would be able to bring my phone back to life. But unfortunately, I've been wating since february and it hasn't happened, and there have been people who have been waiting even longer.
I can't even sell the device to anyone because it doesn't even boot up. Its just a paperweight now. It was a bad decision to buy this phone. Should have gone with the Omnia 7 instead.
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When you tried the Support tool, did it even see the phone? Will your phone even go into Restore Mode (Power/Camera)?
Just throwing ideas out, hoping to stumble across something that makes it light up again...

UzEE said:
I did try to use the Windows Phone Support Tool, and even disected the code. It still needs signed FFUs from Microsoft to flash to the device. You can't just make it flash your custom ROMs.
It would really be awesome is someone was indeed working on a ROM for Focus right now, because then I would be able to bring my phone back to life. But unfortunately, I've been wating since february and it hasn't happened, and there have been people who have been waiting even longer.
I can't even sell the device to anyone because it doesn't even boot up. Its just a paperweight now. It was a bad decision to buy this phone. Should have gone with the Omnia 7 instead.
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I dont understand why you are bashing this phone so badly. I moved from a fuze with win 6.5 plus. I loved the freedom i had with that phone. but, as with any rom and initial release of an op system. there will be bugs. there will be updates. This all takes time. I think this phone is awesome for now. Its very easy to use and is powerful and very fast. The wifi is much faster than what im used to. Just be patient there will be some great improvements to come for this.

The rom posted in the development forum works and is for AT&T Samsung Focus. Read my reply

ASPTHEONE said:
There is no Rom for the Focus, I dont recomend this phone. I got a mine almost 4 month ago and was loaded with another Rom, I wait for a Rom to appear and i lost my hope,, no one is interested on it. So I sell the phone to a very dumb guy. Just resell it.
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Why the hell would I do that?? The phone is near perfect as is.

Try this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045968
See if it works for you.

Focus Rom
This maybe a true Focus Rom but the person who is saying it works has not or will not say how he used this rom. The upload tool included with the Rom does not work.
If it really does work why not just tell us what you used to flash the phone?
The other ROM 7004 included in the thread is a AT&T Demo ROM so don't use it.

rrmcco said:
This maybe a true Focus Rom but the person who is saying it works has not or will not say how he used this rom. The upload tool included with the Rom does not work.
If it really does work why not just tell us what you used to flash the phone?
The other ROM 7004 included in the thread is a AT&T Demo ROM so don't use it.
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I don't think so. On any of the claims.
He has clearly stated how he did it, the tool as well, but nobody actually verified. Unless someone actually tries those with a Focus, all rest are suppositions. Including mine.
So unless someone actually tries them, I have to say what the original poster (Chinese) said they are:
There are 3 roms posted there now:
-UCKC3
-UCKC3 mod/custom 7004 (no idea what that means)
-AT&T Demo
The last 2 have been posted by me in that order in the Focus UCKC3 rom thread.

does anyone know how to use this? i need an instruction

EnderPsp said:
I don't think so. On any of the claims.
He has clearly stated how he did it, the tool as well, but nobody actually verified. Unless someone actually tries those with a Focus, all rest are suppositions. Including mine.
So unless someone actually tries them, I have to say what the original poster (Chinese) said they are:
There are 3 roms posted there now:
-UCKC3
-UCKC3 mod/custom 7004 (no idea what that means)
-AT&T Demo
The last 2 have been posted by me in that order in the Focus UCKC3 rom thread.
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I have a Samsung Focus and I did try the ROM's mentioned in the Chinese site both are the AT&T ROMS.
The UCKC3 ROM I can not use with the tool to update.

EnderPsp said:
I don't think so. On any of the claims.
He has clearly stated how he did it, the tool as well, but nobody actually verified. Unless someone actually tries those with a Focus, all rest are suppositions. Including mine.
So unless someone actually tries them, I have to say what the original poster (Chinese) said they are:
There are 3 roms posted there now:
-UCKC3
-UCKC3 mod/custom 7004 (no idea what that means)
-AT&T Demo
The last 2 have been posted by me in that order in the Focus UCKC3 rom thread.
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I am not 100% sure but i believe he stated the tool worked for him. But I had already posted this comment.
I'm not here to say bad things, I just had not sean a coment on how he was able to use the ROM, and was hoping somebody would say how they did it. And yes he did.

[Q] Is it worth to flash now to Mango or should we wait ??

hey all,
As all have seen in the forums, there is a beta of mango which is already running on our HD2's.
My question is:
Is it really worth to flash now or should we wait for later??
Which bugs have been registered with our devices until now?
Are they serious or only small bugs??
Thx in advance

I have noticed that several apps do not work properly on Mango. Either lagging or crashing. I reverted to nodo..

If you want to do some experiments then flash Mango now. If you need stable good work without waiting next unexpected reboot use Yuki V5.
A lot of bugs from small to big in Mango now .....

i think it's not the right place to open this thread, but, you have to try it
it has A LOT of bugs, everywhere.. in IE9, apps, etc etc etc
you can call and write sms, you have only 5 lenguages, and, not all apps work, so, if you need a stable phone, i adviced you to change to mango even if it works normally in phone functions
if you want to try the new speed, right, you can come back, sure!
so, simply you have to try if the bugs isn't big issues for you

I'm using Mango and am amazed how well it works. I encountered one real bug so far, in IE9. It doesn't seem to like Edge data networks. One other semi-bug is sometimes the links in the XDA website don't work...maybe it's just super slow loading, though.
Otherwise, all that I've tried so far works splendidly. Last night I used the Bluetooth to connect to a BT shelf speaker and it worked without a fault.
I can't say how it might work on a Euro HD2, but my T-Mobile US HD2 loves it. I also think Mango might handle video response differently for producing colors because the color reproduction on my HD2 running Mango is fantastic. I compared the display to my Focus, which runs Super AMOLED display and they are almost identical in color and the HD2 looks cleaner, crisper and has better white production than the Focus.
If you have a US HD2, go for it. I'm keeping mine because I like that much.

I have TMOUS. I did two attempts to flash this very green Mango, but couldn't live with it well. When I flashed and used mango i tell myself it is just small problem soon will be OK... bug... then another bug.... then during phone book loading to blueant reboot.... another reboot.... then apps don't work... so many more... So i can say my phone absolutly doesn't like Green Mango.
I finaly say - No can't live with it when perfectly working in all aspects NODO present. Went back to V5 NODO and so happy now again!!! But will wait of course final mango.

DO NOT FLASH HD2 MANGO!
Not worth it at all. It's all way to buggy and slow. It's almost like when android was first discovered onto our Leo devices- slow and cruddy but definitely has a future!

Thx for your feedback guys
I will not flash it, will wait for the final version
Have a nice weekend!!

Do not flash hd2 mango!

Finalforce1111 said:
Thx for your feedback guys
I will not flash it, will wait for the final version
Have a nice weekend!!
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Good choice. It was fun to experiment with, just to check it out. But as others have said it's waaaaayyy too buggy. 3rd party apps don't work, even some official apps like ebay don't work. Proximity sensor in-call doesn't work, so lots of hanging up or putting people on hold with cheeks, lol. IE9 is horrible in this build. Only Facebook integration works in the OS, etc. But I can tell you when it is done & we get a fully functional mango rom, it will be amazing!!!

JonnieLasVegas said:
Good choice. It was fun to experiment with, just to check it out. But as others have said it's waaaaayyy too buggy. 3rd party apps don't work, even some official apps like ebay don't work. Proximity sensor in-call doesn't work, so lots of hanging up or putting people on hold with cheeks, lol. IE9 is horrible in this build. Only Facebook integration works in the OS, etc. But I can tell you when it is done & we get a fully functional mango rom, it will be amazing!!!
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Hmmm...you maybe should try the one from elfinlazz. It works splendidly and I just checked the PS and it worked like normal WP7. I did check the eBay app and couldn't get it to work. But it seems this elfinlazz ROM is closer to an actual WP7 than any of them.

MartyLK said:
Hmmm...you maybe should try the one from elfinlazz. It works splendidly and I just checked the PS and it worked like normal WP7. I did check the eBay app and couldn't get it to work. But it seems this elfinlazz ROM is closer to an actual WP7 than any of them.
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That's the only one I've used. I would constantly hang up & put people on hold while talking on the phone.

JonnieLasVegas said:
That's the only one I've used. I would constantly hang up & put people on hold while talking on the phone.
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You might investigate your card then, because they can cause some issues. Mine is Sandisk class 4 16GB

MartyLK said:
You might investigate your card then, because they can cause some issues. Mine is Sandisk class 4 16GB
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I'll check, but it's never given me issues with any other WP7 roms. And I also have the class 4 sandisk 16 gb. But now that I'm back on Yuki's NoDo, it's running perfect again. Appreciate the help though.

Finalforce1111 said:
hey all,
As all have seen in the forums, there is a beta of mango which is already running on our HD2's.
My question is:
Is it really worth to flash now or should we wait for later??
Which bugs have been registered with our devices until now?
Are they serious or only small bugs??
Thx in advance
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This is the dev forum not Q&A, go to Q&A/General if you wish to create topics like this.
giorgib said:
Do not flash hd2 mango!
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And why not?
I have the unlocked Mango (with market) and it runs great, Haven't come across any big bugs and battery last 24+ hours most of time unless doing heavy calling/gaming.

TheATHEiST said:
This is the dev forum not Q&A, go to Q&A/General if you wish to create topics like this.
And why not?
I have the unlocked Mango (with market) and it runs great, Haven't come across any big bugs and battery last 24+ hours most of time unless doing heavy calling/gaming.
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I gotta agree. Mine works excellently and after doing the camera trick, battery life is much, much better. This is a ROM I want to make permanent.

I want ripe mango

TheATHEiST said:
This is the dev forum not Q&A, go to Q&A/General if you wish to create topics like this.
And why not?
I have the unlocked Mango (with market) and it runs great, Haven't come across any big bugs and battery last 24+ hours most of time unless doing heavy calling/gaming.
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Wish I had that kind of luck with the battery! Without any use it would last around 3 hours. With average use I'd get an hour of battery. Tried the cam trick & changing radio, but nothing wild improve it for me. Guess it's luck of the draw when it comes to battery & stability with the green mango roms. Still it does have some awesome new features. Can't wait for a ripe one.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

•Would• not wild. Won't let me edit on the app right now for some reason.
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Hi there,
Is it still buggy right now ?
I have a plan to upgrade from 6.5 to 7.5
thanks,
Ronald