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Okay the new virtual keyboard, contacts app, photos app,home screen and gestures all look great with the Touch Dual, but will original touch owners be able to enjoy this by way of an update? Ive heard nothing. Im a bit pissed actually, I know technology moves fast but the Touch is only 4 months or so old, its still a relatively new device and I feel HTC sold me half a product.
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After a successul release in Japan, HTC now plans to officially launch the Touch Dual mobile phone for Europe. The Touch Dual measures 107x55x15.8-mm and weighs 120-grams. It supports WCDMA/HSDPA (Wideband Code Division Multiple Access/High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) 2100MHz and GSM/EDGE 900/1800/1900MHz networks. It also features the TouchFLO interface over Windows Mobile 6 Professional and a 2.6" QVGA touch-screen and is powered by a 400MHz Qualcomm MSM7200 processor. It comes with 256MB flash, 128MB RAM, and microSD expansion; Bluetooth 2.0+EDR; 802.11b/g WiFi; HTC ExtUSB (HTC's mini USB 2.0 jack with support for data and audio); and a battery to keep you talking for upto 240 mins on WCDMA and upto 360 minutes on GSM frequencies.
darthbane2k said:
Okay the new virtual keyboard, contacts app, photos app,home screen and gestures all look great with the Touch Dual, but will original touch owners be able to enjoy this by way of an update?
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doubtful,.. but hope dies last!
There will be an update for the keyboard.. that's sure ! but for the rest we will see... it seems possible to have everything "software" if the rom are quite the same.. but we can't say this without the touch dual roms.
HTC promises the keyboard for the touch .... but for the rest.. nothing is said yet.
Ofcourse they aint gonna give that to us. They want you to buy the 'new and better' Touch. They already have your money, but they want mmmoooOOORE!
*ahwem*
Anyway, there might be a chance we get it for the Touch. And otherwise I'm sure someone will be able to get it from the Touch Dual .
But looking at how succesful the Touch is in sales, this is the moment for HTC to show how they are in the after sales.
Coming from the s100 and s200 I'm not too confident in all this though, but we'll see!
some of the new features for the dual is surely plus for me. i don't like the smaller screen and bulkiness of the unit compared to the touch. but who knows, when i see it personally on shops, i might get one also to play with.
i think pdaviet or another developer will include this functions to their roms for prophet and old htc touchs.
No wifi
I dont think we will want to wait for HTC to release an update for these features. This sounds like a job for.... someone else. I bet a developer will write a app that will implement these features. Touch Dual looks great, I like the direction HTC is going but not giving this device Wlan is really lame. It's also being released as the O2 XDA Star, but quadband.
No wifi? As far as I can see wifi is one of the features....in previous specs I've seen GPS - which is missing now - which would be for me the only reason to swich
GPS
Do you think GPS is on board, but disabled???
alexandera said:
Do you think GPS is on board, but disabled???
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Qualcomm MSM7200 processor technical features:
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gpsOne® position-location assisted-GPS (A-GPS) solution
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http://www.cdmatech.com/products/msm7200_chipset_solution.jsp
one of the things that made me switch to Htc Touch was wifi. Since the HTC Slide doesnt have wifi, then i dont think its worth the change
The lack of wifi let me down too.
I've been waiting for the new touch with 3.5G, but no wifi is a big no no for me. Let's see if they update the software on the original touch, if they do, I'll buy one, if they don't, I won't buy any of them, I'll just wait. Form factor wise, I think the original touch is cooler
Yep, my ideal phone (at the minute) would be the Touch, but with built-in GPS, a faster processor and larger storage. But processor and storage don't bother me too much (overclocked and a 6GB memory card) so only issue is the lack of built-in GPS - means I have to use a separate bluetooth GPS, which is rather inconvenient at times
David
400mhz
400mhz is awfully fast. the touch is 201, i think most people can get it running close to 300 with overclocking but that just means the new one is gonna scream, nothing better than streaming porn to classmates and coworkers via bluetooth!
seriously though, the tech upgrades alone might be worth picking one up, espcially considering it will probably have the same customization options our touches have now.
i just love my touch and wouldn want any other phone now! it just has everything and i like the fact that the only keys are the ones to make calls...
i dont mine useing the touchkeyboard and the 201MHr are enough i think...
gps doesnt bother me neither... only people with a bad sence of orentation need pgs
Hi
Does anyone know on what network the touch dual is going to be released in the uk?
Is it going to be available on t-mobile? If so when?
Thanx
Nik
hey guys !
watch this rewiew of the htc touch dual
http://smape.com/en/reviews/htc/HTC_Touch_Dual-rev.html
wow i just read the review, it seems the old Touch is better at quite a number for stuff especially graphics and many multimedia.
With the higher price, minus Wifi, and smaller screem, we (with the old touch) shouldnt feel too bad guys
Hello Guys.
I got a Hermes previously an 8525, and wow it had a lot of issues, like the keyboard not working and the white screen and things like that.
I was wondering if the mogul had some or a lot or did it improve a lot?
Thanks guys.
I have a mogul and i cant in good conscience sugar coat it. Mogul is a POS in my opinion. it runs WM6 far to slow with only 64mb of RAM for programs. find yourself something else. i wish i could recommend it, but no..
The Mogul is just as bad; too many bugs, too slow, not enough RAM, no video drivers. I owned one for less than 6 months and sold it.
Now I have an equally buggy Treo 800w, but at least it's fast, has video drivers, and has plenty of RAM.
Hey man,
Mogul has problems too like the government,economy......and all. However several of us, Mogul users, got it to work to our satisafaction. I for one have 3 email accounts working flawlessly with push,GPS, Spb software,Resco,Radios,tv's, Skype
,occasional router and the list is way too long. I do not have to have half a dozen programs running at once, maybe some music while surfing the net, email/gps/phone call or something like that
Mogul is serving me well. Now that I am able to get a free HTC Pro, I will try it out.
Wow. All this hate against the mogul. It is a solid phone once you find a good ROM and software combination. But, if you are buying new right now, I do agree that you should get something else. The mogul is the previous generation, so I would try the current gen. phones like the diamond or raphael, that is if it is within your budget.
Or you can hope that HTC changes their mind about the touch HD.
Also a pervious 8525 user here. Same memory management hassles and hokey keyboard on mogul. Like the others say, not many phones were more fun to tinker with at the time it came out but now that the Touch Pro (Raphael) is out I also can't recommend a new mogul.
Make sure keyboard works properly.
Oh ok, seems good, but a Diamond and Touch Pro are very expensive aren't they?
I wanted to get Omnia, but wow, too expensive too.
Not a plan user btw.
I think as soon as Rapahel drops price, I'll get it, love its color, but a bit too pricey.
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Oh ok, seems good, but a Diamond and Touch Pro are very expensive aren't they?
I wanted to get Omnia, but wow, too expensive too.
Not a plan user btw.
I think as soon as Rapahel drops price, I'll get it, love its color, but a bit too pricey.
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Yea wait... anything with 64mb RAM = trash
Trash? A little too far with that....
Let me just remind you users of the titan that have had it a year and a half or more like I have, we are a little sore with it at this point. The mogul with DCD's new roms is very solid. We developement junkies are just pissed because we don't have an accelererometer and can't do anything with manila 3d. The fact of the matter is it is a great device, just a little out dated but with the pricing now its worth it I think. Built in wifi, full touch capabilities, customize it to whatever you want, mobile office, built in gps receiver, come on guys. Don't you remember how ecstatic you were when you first brought this bad boy home. If you have not had one yet now is the time to get one when there are stable roms for it, there existed no such thing when I purchased it. And just remember the majority of smart devices can't touch the mogul. I will say though I am one to buy the badest mofo out there now in an attempt to stay ahead as far as possible. Lastely, I signed up for new plan and paid $200 for my girl's titan a year ago and just sold it for the same so how can I be mad at that (she wanted a touch, go figure, said it was cuter). Just buy the titan to get you through another year then waste your benji's next year. I know devices such as touch pro and diamond are much more advanced that the titan but my budies diamond performs like ****, beautiful, but slow as ****. I am waiting for htc to change its mind on the touch hd. Now theres a device.
Yeah, I think I'll just grab it and get the advantage of 3G, until a good device comes down in price.
As these new devices, I don't think either they're definitely worth to get like at this moment.
Like Sweeney Russ says, touch pro hd, there's a device.
ya I'm a little bitter about the memory and apps closing left and right.. other than that it's a lovely device... I guess it would be fine if you stick with older apps and don't get too involved with current developments like m2d. Honestly, if this thing had an extra 64mb (the tilt) I would be very content with it.
dark - you're buying it new? new contract or an upgrade?
I very much enjoy my XV 6800. Yes, if you are a tinkerer who has to plop in every possible app being developed and push the limits of new capability, then by definition any phone that is a year or more older will not be to your liking.
But if you want a phone that can be quite stable if you stabilize your apps and stop tinkering every week, and one that can essentially be a mini-laptop away from home, I know of nothing better than the Titan.
The hard keyboard is awesome, and the touch screen works great.
I guess the best way to describe the Titan is that it does everything decently. It doesn't shine as the best in any one area, but you can do anything with it.
Does it have the best video graphics? No. But I watch ripped movies and youtube videos just fine thank you.
It plays plenty of games. I can do actual work on it using the hard keyboard and Office Mobile.
And if you unlock the GPS, it even gets that much better.
Devin
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The Mogul is just as bad; too many bugs, too slow, not enough RAM, no video drivers. I owned one for less than 6 months and sold it.
Now I have an equally buggy Treo 800w, but at least it's fast, has video drivers, and has plenty of RAM.
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Had the mogul too, now the 800w. I can honestly say I don't miss ANYTHING about the mogul other than the battery life. I lived with so much crap for so long.
-The keyboard is bad, and gets worse with time
-BT is TERRIBLE, range and volume wise, buggy too
-Hated the slider form factor, the slow screen re-draw made me want to throw the phone
-Memory, MS should not allow WM phones to be sold with 6.1 and 64 megs. There were so many times I wanted to use the camera but had to reboot to get enough memory.
I could go on, but I won't. The 800w isn't perfect either, but is sooo much better.
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First of all your using a treo as your defense. Second of all, what the hell are you talking about, you like the treo keyboard over the mogul keyboard? You must have tiny little fingers. I am running radio 3.37.20 and my bluetooth range is phenominal. I can be outside of the car and stay on it while my phone remains. And the audiopara cab actually makes the speaker so loud that it is embarrassing on the phone and my girlfriends little pink moto bt earpiece's speaker blew because the volume was too loud. And why so concerned with the memory? We all know the mogul should have had more, but the fact remains it runs everything I want it to and several apps at the same time. I don't know what you were running but the camera works outstandingly well and screen rotate function works instantly. IGO 8 and touchflo are the biggest memory hogs I have and they run seemlesly. The only explanation would be that you must have been running a stock rom. DCD 3.2.6 is as close to perfect as it gets. No freezing, no lagging, virtually no memory drain. Why are you in the titan forum anyway?
They dont even sell the mogul here anymore its all about the touch pro, which cost almost the same as the mogul did, around 550...get a diamond or a touch pro.
Also not true.....
I got a brand new mogul on ebay for $225, never opened.
I am planning to sell my HTC Touch HD and hop on HTC Hero. Reasons are, I want to start using Android in my daily life ASAP, and the new HTC Sense is what I really need and wanted. Widgets, 7 window "pages", and the "scene" is also very useful feature.
On the other hand, I also think about keeping my HTC Touch HD, and wait until some Android comes on nVidia Tegra or 1ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon?
Well, discuss!
To be honest, I love the Touch HD (even after switching to the iPhone - and back) but the Hero looks really nice.
It's a bit less "professional" because of Android, but if you don't depend on features like full Exchange support or voice command, I'd say the Hero is clearly the best device on the market now (of course depending on your needs).
There are some phones with better hardware, like the Samsung i8910, but unfortunately, they run Symbian. The Hero has great hardware and great software, and both the hardware and the software are better than what Apple has to offer.
On the other hand, the HTC Leo/SuperStar should arrive within just a few months. Though the Hero is nice, it could be woth waiting (after all, the Touch HD is still a great device).
Same here !
I'm going to do the same. Android and Sense are the future of the HTC devices. I'm gonna miss my HD because of its gigantic display and resolution. If HD had a capacitive display, I would stick with it. I can admit that HD is the first device I loved using and it's mostly because of Dutty's lovely and fast roms. I have ordered my Hero and I will send some pictures of it as soon as I receive the phone.
By the way mates, is it true that the processor on Hero (and HTC Leo/SuperStar) is a dual core processor?
No, the Hero uses the same processor as the Touch HD, and the Leo/SuperStar will have the nVidia Tegra Chip (which is about twice as fast, in theory, and has great 3D and video acceleration - but I never found the Touch HD to be too slow).
It does look nice. I only hope it actually works like the movie I just downloaded from the HTC site. It's available in just about two weeks time in UK. Can anybody tell me how it would sync with PC or even better Mac? Is it Google sync only?
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It does look nice. I only hope it actually works like the movie I just downloaded from the HTC site. It's available in just about two weeks time in UK. Can anybody tell me how it would sync with PC or even better Mac? Is it Google sync only?
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I think I found my answer here.
any idea what the German price will be? wanna buy it tax free and smuggle, lol
Hey guys,
I currently own a Sony Ericsson Xperia, and am possibly looking for a new phone. I love the look of a proper HTC phone, with Manilla ofc, because I love it, and they are good quality phones. I can't decide between a Diamond 2 (Topaz) or a Touch HD (Blackstone) and would like to know what you guys love so much about the Diamond 2.
Be it custom ROMs here, features etc. I would love to know what you like best =)
Thanks ^^
The only difference is that blackstone has a little large display but the resolutions are same.
And the blackstone has no zoombar. But its no problem.
If i were you i'd choose Blackstone.
Both worth to your money.
I love Topaz because it really feels more like a phone compared to the Diamond. I also like to watch alot of movies and series on my phone so a big screen was seomthing I needed (movies looks amazing on the screen btw).
The phone is really fluid and smooth and I haven't installed a Custom ROM because the Stock is really good (under 50% RAM usage all the time except when I watch movies of course).
If you like to listen to music and watch movies, pick the HD (it got 3.5mm jack, tho you can buy a adapter to the Topaz for $5 or something).
And now for a difference of opinion...
I find the blackstone to large for a day to day phone, and prefer the diamond 2....
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And now for a difference of opinion...
I find the blackstone to large for a day to day phone, and prefer the diamond 2....
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I agree. I had the choice of either but chose the Touch Diamond 2 because the HD is too big for my pockets.
Man.
The TD2 can do VGA (640x480) videos, the HD can't. Though don't expect the quality to be as good as a proper camera doing VGA videos.
i'd keep your cash and stay away from htc all together...this phone is nothing but problems and faults.....just look at the board and see how many people are complaining about things with it.
I should've got an Iphone...even though i used to be very anti apple everything.......at least they work
I love my TD2 - I think it has a perfect size. It's snappy. I use it with SPB Mobile Shell and it works great. The only bad thing with the TD2 is battery life -I get under one day with heavy use..
If not TD2 I would definately not go for Blackstone -but wait for HTC Leo...........
http://ai.rs/2009/09/htc-leo/
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I love my TD2 - I think it has a perfect size. It's snappy. I use it with SPB Mobile Shell and it works great. The only bad thing with the TD2 is battery life -I get under one day with heavy use..
If not TD2 I would definately not go for Blackstone -but wait for HTC Leo...........
http://ai.rs/2009/09/htc-leo/
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Same here with the battery life, but if I let it in standby over the night (6-10 hours) I don't lose more than 10% on that time which I think is damn good.
I made a test yesterday and watched as many movies I could on the phone and I could watch a totalt of 3h 20min before it died (100% to 0%).
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i'd keep your cash and stay away from htc all together...this phone is nothing but problems and faults.....just look at the board and see how many people are complaining about things with it.
No problems with mine I'm glad I didn't get an iPhone! as I use it for business as well as pleasure I think It's an excellent phone.
Guess it depends on what you want in ur phone.
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Ditto on the battery life. I find Manila a bit too finger friendly. I've got the Topaz Essential ROM and SPB Mobile shell 3 running on it and its real smooth. There are a few quirks here and there as with any other phone but HTC makes one of the best Windows Mobile phones on the market, great for business or pleasure.
I prefer Diamond 2 cuz the screen fits girls very much. Compared with it, HD is a little bit larger than that. I have to take the phone everyday and the HD is just too large for that.
madindehead said:
Hey guys,
I currently own a Sony Ericsson Xperia, and am possibly looking for a new phone. I love the look of a proper HTC phone, with Manilla ofc, because I love it, and they are good quality phones. I can't decide between a Diamond 2 (Topaz) or a Touch HD (Blackstone) and would like to know what you guys love so much about the Diamond 2.
Be it custom ROMs here, features etc. I would love to know what you like best =)
Thanks ^^
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D2
D2 is more elegant~
Barff1984 said:
i'd keep your cash and stay away from htc all together...this phone is nothing but problems and faults.....just look at the board and see how many people are complaining about things with it.
I should've got an Iphone...even though i used to be very anti apple everything.......at least they work
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I wouldn't listen to this. The Topaz is the best phone I've had yet... well worth your money!
I considered getting a blackstone, but I also found the screen too large. I would consider the Topaz to be an upgrade on the Blackstone. It has slightly more functionality, it looks better and since it's newer it seems to be better supported. (e.g. It will be getting the windows Mobile upgrade and a new Manila soon - Not sure if the blackstone will be getting these Of course you could always have these with a cooked ROM)
I just got mine for 2 weeks and so far I got no complaint.
When I try out Blackstone and Topaz I feel the touchscreen work slightly faster (this might due to firmware) and blackstone with silicone case cannot fit my pocket.
Also smaller screen with the same resolution just give you a crispy video playback and to my surprise the built-in media player actually work better than core player. (at least for h.264+aac encode).
PS. Go to hell with iphone I you love sending messages forgot about iphone. It would make your life harder. I usually a pro apple (owning power mac g3-5 + mac pro) but iphone is just a fad...
TD2 vs. HD
madindehead said:
Hey guys,
I currently own a Sony Ericsson Xperia, and am possibly looking for a new phone. I love the look of a proper HTC phone, with Manilla ofc, because I love it, and they are good quality phones. I can't decide between a Diamond 2 (Topaz) or a Touch HD (Blackstone) and would like to know what you guys love so much about the Diamond 2.
Be it custom ROMs here, features etc. I would love to know what you like best =)
Thanks ^^
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Just watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKd5beLtYa0
I prefer TD2 instead of HD, but that's just me...
Good luck to take the right decision for you!
Can any of you D2 owners compare the external speaker to lets say a BB 8900? I know it can't match TP2's speakers but how much worse is it?
The external speaker is located aft under the camera lens and lighting. Sound can be tuned to maximum loud and clear sound bearable. But there are many complaints as they coulcn't hear any audio (no ring, no alerts, no music) coming through the external speaker on BB 8900.
Does anyone know if the "rumored" 3G AT&T version of the D2 that's "supposed" to be released in October has 3.5 mm headphone jack? The leaked pictures do not show the top or lower edges of the phone. Some of the recent releases of the TP2 in the US and the new My Touch 2 have a 3.5mm jacks. I refuse to carry a dongle and the sound quality of Bluetooth headphones are not match for my UE IEMs. This is one feature that makes the iPhone very convenient.
YES!!
I owned a NOVA (ELF) for 2 years, which was not a bad device at all, but the new Diamond 2 is much better. The in-hand feeling is wonderful. I did not have problems until now and I am also happy with the battery duration.
Hey guys,
I currently own a Sony Ericsson Xperia, and am possibly looking for a new phone. I love the look of a proper HTC phone, with Manilla ofc, because I love it, and they are good quality phones. I can't decide between a Diamond 2 (Topaz) or a Touch HD (Blackstone) and would like to know what you guys love so much about the Touch HD.
Be it custom ROMs here, features etc. I would love to know what you like best =)
Thanks ^^
I love everything about my HD! Sad init!
Why not hold out for the new HTC Leo though?
madin,
Yes, very much so. Once you've seen a TouchHD, it makes you wonder why you even paid all that money for a screensize that is on Xperia. Lawl.
And yes, programs like FingerKeyboard and RescoKeyboard PRO makes it almost natural even without a physical keyboard. However, just understand that with great screen size, comes great responsibility.
If you're one to treat your phones with callousness, stick to your SEX1. High pressure can render your TouchHD inflicted with a Newton Ring (in my opinion, the large lcd panel makes it weaker than a smaller lcd panel).
Cheers.
the best thing I love about the hd is the large screen and the interface... gotta love xda developers for making roms that take the best of all the htc interfaces and put them into the phone. currently using the TOPIX unleashed 3.0 FINAL rom and I cannot say how perfect this phone is now.
I think you should wait. Soon there will be new phones from HTC (Leo), which looks really great
Yeah i love my hd but it may be worth holding out for leo...
I'd also wait for Leo. Looks like a slicker HD.
Yeah, I was reading some stuff about the Leo this morning. Looks amazing. Think I will have to hold out for that. Still nice to see what you guys had to say about the HD, as I'm assuming the Leo will be a better HD perhaps?
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