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Today is the day, when i said good bye to my HD2.
It has been qute an experience owning the device and trying all these different WinMo, Android SD and Nand, Windows Phone 7, but i guess i got tired of all those, what is working and not working rom, and now i deceided to get a Xperia X10...
I want to thank all of the developers, testers, and all of the users of this subforum. Great job guys.
Shame... I had an X10 for about a week before I got rid for the HD2 (my second HD2) ... The X10 has a few 'quirks' of it's own but nothing reflashing can't fix.
ithink hd2 its quite good device, since all my friend complaining baout that n this on their soner device...
HTC is more experienced for PDA things than
I've got HD2 with Rafdroid and X10 (updated to 2.1). After using X10 I still come back to my second phone (I find Sense much, much more useful than Sony's firmware - especially these things that decide about phone functionality - adress book (searching is much better in Sense), phone and so on.)
I owned a X10 before but i was disappointed.
lmao. So let me get this straight, you're going from HD2 to the X10? In case that wasn't clear enough...
YOU'RE GOING FROM THE HD2 to the X10?!
lulz
Yep, i got rid of my 9 months old HD2 for a brand new X10, which has everything right out of the box. I wanted to have android for so long and i have tried qute a few sd and nand builds, but still there is something not working. i.e. i must connect to wpa2 enterprise network everyday ... no build support that... sorry hd2 ....
dddnnnggg said:
Yep, i got rid of my 9 months old HD2 for a brand new X10, which has everything right out of the box. I wanted to have android for so long and i have tried qute a few sd and nand builds, but still there is something not working. i.e. i must connect to wpa2 enterprise network everyday ... no build support that... sorry hd2 ....
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I hope you enjoy the Experience (get it lol)
imho, (and i provide phone tech support for virgin), you are correct to say its all the out of the box, but the build quality, mtbf*, useability, screen quality, reception and software are much below the Leo.
Don't forget that SE don't as a rule supply updates for their phones, and don't expect to update the rom on the X10 this centuary.
You would have made a better choice to go for a Wildfire S
Mean time between failures
If I was you, id try and sell the x10 and get a superior phone, perhaps an Hd2, if you need advice on running wp7 and android, we can help
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lude219 said:
lmao. So let me get this straight, you're going from HD2 to the X10? In case that wasn't clear enough...
YOU'RE GOING FROM THE HD2 to the X10?!
lulz
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What he said ^
Gosh guys, if he gets a new phone don't kill him over it. Fact is, our hd2 is non comparable to a true android phone. So it's obvious he's got a better android phone than us. Don't trash him about it.
PS. if any of you guys try to tell me that our hd2's are faster than android phones, root the android phone, tweak it, then flash a custom rom / kernel, then you'll see that android phone flying beyond what our hd2's can do.
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Yeah I would think the HD2 the better of the two ?
X10 has locked bootloader - there are few custom ROMs and SE said they won't update the official Android in Xperia.
You wanted Android from the box - why not Galaxy S?
Pabliell said:
X10 has locked bootloader - there are few custom ROMs and SE said they won't update the official Android in Xperia.
You wanted Android from the box - why not Galaxy S?
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Because the galaxy s is known for it's hardware problems. However I find the problems insignificant in my case and opinion.
Now personally I find you choice of the X10 a bad one, as the desire, desire hd or even desire z would have been a better choice. But hey, congrats on the new device. :3
Hi guys! i'll be going to singapore soon to buy my htc hd2. Missed all the tweakings. Had an xda, then xda exec then got an htc shift (still with me now). Looking forward to have one soon.
You chahged hd2 for xperia? If I were you I wouldn't tell anyone about this stupidity. You are crazy, man!
When i had a Xperia X10 i waited 4 months for an update. And not to 2.2 or 2.3 but
from 1.6 to 2.1.(The first and last update for the Xperia X10 family.)
When i got the update guess what, still no multitouch, no adobe flash player,same laggy Timescape and Mediascape.And did not mention the BIG quadrant score: somewhere around 460-500, with the update.
So i did own a Xperia X10i for 4 months and i can say from experience that the HD2 android it is far better than the Xperia X10i.
This is only my opinion. I was happy to change the X10 for a HD2.
You did the opposite.Hope you will be happy with it.
With new phones such as the XPERIA PLAY, PRO AND ARC being released is it possible that XDA developers are planning to let go?
The X8 will not be able to sport optimal performance on upcoming android os, i can see the end coming?
i am sure that the development of j's rom will be done and racht will still produce some roms with j's rom and cynagonmod 7 but what after that?
is the x8 just going to be abandoned?
What is the future of the X8 with these new SE handsets arriving and many more better handsets?
even the x10 received the update and its bootloader was cracked
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Sony Ericsson dumped us, our only hope lies with racht, jerpelea and nobodyatall. If they leave then that's it, X8 is finished.
Programmers built android, programmers are develop it to next versions.
What makes you think that xda programmers cant develop them too?
...The problem is that they are paid and do their job, but xda programmers give us their free time for free to develop it , not to mention that they are alone...
The problem is not what is going to happend if our phone cant support next android version, the problem is how long can xda programmers spent their time for us , they have a life too.
PS: se dont give as updates why are you so crazy for next versions...
Just stop thinking about such things untill you see a rom custom by ratch that x8 can run.
2 year ago I wanted more and more from a dev of an firefox add on... 1 year ago I start developing my own add on with a friend... Everyone can programm but you has to try first.
I have heard that some guys managed to port Android 3.0, better known as Honeycomb, to the G1, HTC Magic and to the Nexus One.
This are of course very beta versions, but the phones boot with it.
So, I wonder if someone could port 3.0 to our Xperia?
The HTC Magic and G1 were the first phones with Android, so our Xperia must be much better than them and, theoratically, it could work on it with just fewer lags than on the G1.
There are so many 2.2 and 2.3 ROMs available for our Xperia, so why not try to port 3.0?
If you think this is a stupid thread, just remove it, but I just wanted to know it.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
USE SEARCH FEATURE ON XDA AND YOU WILL FIND IT. Don't be lazy
You must be new here!
you will get burned at the stake by the guys here for opening such thread xD we are struggling to get a 100% bugless working android 2.2 and you bringing up android 3.0 which is meant for tablets with big screens xD lol
Edit : also such question is not meant to be in the dev section....
It was just a noob question...I also said that the versions for Nexus One, G1 and Magic are very beta versions.
There used to be an early version of Honeycomb somewhere here but the project has been abandoned. And no wonder - our kernel cannot even run Gingerbread without bugs, not to mention higher versions...
Even the kernel supports it, maybe phone will be too much laggy, as the HoneyComb suggests the need of 1.0Ghz processor, that is not our Case
So why they can run it on G1?
Does it have an unlocked bootloader, so you can flash a custom kernel?
codfreak said:
So why they can run it on G1?
Does it have an unlocked bootloader, so you can flash a custom kernel?
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Probably yes, Xperia stills locked and cannot boot custom kernels
Some dev are trying to make the bootloader bypass, but is not easy. :/
biscoitu said:
Probably yes, Xperia stills locked and cannot boot custom kernels
Some dev are trying to make the bootloader bypass, but is not easy. :/
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not easy and i think they already gave up
Graveir and aldee_s are right: someone has already ported it, but development is currently down.
here is the thread to it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982384&highlight=honeycomb
Blagus was disappointed with that, the only one that i saw making some progress was maxfron, but I didn´t saw him anymore
That had it ported but far to laggy m8 r CPU 2 slow at the min but I think I may still have that download ill cheack for u and upload it if so
my civic
Is because our phone is not ARMv7 & above and the processor speed is not super fast..if u port it into x8 it will buggy & lags in all of the function
Lets wait for 2. 4 but google need so much time : #
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There are already a few phones with Android 2.4 (not for sale, but someone somehow managed to get some)
Here is a youtube video, where you can see Xperia arc running 2.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbBQMERacQ
codfreak said:
There are already a few phones with Android 2.4 (not for sale, but someone somehow managed to get some)
Here is a youtube video, where you can see Xperia arc running 2.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbBQMERacQ
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This is fake he just editted the build.prob file!
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You can edit this in build.prop?
Do you mean the line:
Code:
ro.build.version.sdk=8
, so you would only have to change the number?
I think new Android will be 4.0 "Ice Cream Sandwich"
Not 2.4
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your new here arent ya? hahaha! its not very impossible to port 3.0 in our x8 just wait and see
I know that many people are too excited after the bootloader is unlocked, so now we can get a windows phone 7 port like that in HD2.
Personally speaking, I was going to trade my beloved X10 for a HD2 so that I can get the goods of both worlds, but now I am going to stay for a long while with the X10.
How many X10 users want a WP7 port?
i'd maybe try it out for a little bit
guys get realistic.....
there are TONS of devices with unlocked bootloaders, and only hd2 has a wp7 port.
It isn't as easy as you think. It is not going to happen
scoobysnacks is right. It isn't going to happen unless you the OP makes it. Most/all of the developers here are android developers...not Windows Mango. Personally I don't want it...I rather want a bootloader unlock that will work with SIM unlocked by third party software. THAT, my friend is more important now. For me atleast...
Thats why i have a samsung focus as well lol.
Even if theoretically some incredible wp7 dev shows up, expect it to take at least six months to a year.
I would be willing to bet it never happens
scoobysnacks said:
Even if theoretically some incredible wp7 dev shows up, expect it to take at least six months to a year.
I would be willing to bet it never happens
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Of course it will not.
And, if you ask me,
I'd take any real improvement to the device
over a half-*ssed port of another OS any day.
Someone realllly needs to set the record straight on what an unlocked bootloader does and doesn't do. Half of the people on here think it will turn their phone into a spaceship, or something along those lines...
scoobysnacks said:
Someone realllly needs to set the record straight on what an unlocked bootloader does and doesn't do. Half of the people on here think it will turn their phone into a spaceship, or something along those lines...
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Hahahaha
Well, there goes my dreams...thanks alot scooby!
Dont care for W7 as much as unlocking bootloader for 3rd party simunlock and partitioning.
scoobysnacks said:
Someone realllly needs to set the record straight on what an unlocked bootloader does and doesn't do. Half of the people on here think it will turn their phone into a spaceship, or something along those lines...
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"I open booter how no full multi touched?"
Been seeing that question a lot recently...
Sent from my x10, rocking Wolf's 2.3.3 + DooMKernel, overclocked to 1.2 GHz...
My dream was always to have an Wm phone...since i was a kid. Unfortunately the only thing i could find before x10 was an OMNIA. God Damn.
sent from MIUI 1.9.2 Rom test with Doom's kernel and bootloader cracked thanks to azuzu
If u see all threats started by FXP/J u see he knows windows phone Developnment as well!!
MAGPC said:
I know that many people are too excited after the bootloader is unlocked, so now we can get a windows phone 7 port like that in HD2.
Personally speaking, I was going to trade my beloved X10 for a HD2 so that I can get the goods of both worlds, but now I am going to stay for a long while with the X10.
How many X10 users want a WP7 port?
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I doubt it would be possible because WP7 is not open source, and closed source software is not legal to modify and upload to XDA...
Of course, I may be wrong...
This definitely Will not happen. In more excited about hopefully having a proper ported ice cream Rom since the bootloader will allow a new upto date kernel
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Frosty666 said:
"I open booter how no full multi touched?"
Been seeing that question a lot recently...
Sent from my x10, rocking Wolf's 2.3.3 + DooMKernel, overclocked to 1.2 GHz...
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The full multitouch won't apparate outta the blue. Drivers need to be written and that takes time.
Prodigy said:
I doubt it would be possible because WP7 is not open source, and closed source software is not legal to modify and upload to XDA...
Of course, I may be wrong...
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HTC HD2 did that already.
video just for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgF0cSUJE4I&feature=related
unlocked bootloader gives us a lot more option to modified our phone as much as we like (but still depend on hardware limit). Any difrent OS on x10 should be fun. not that android is bad. but we can experience a lot of diffrent os without buy another phone.
You still have problems with partition layout - I doubt Windows and Android phones have same system+data+boot partition layout...
Arnold.Alexius said:
HTC HD2 did that already.
video just for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgF0cSUJE4I&feature=related
unlocked bootloader gives us a lot more option to modified our phone as much as we like (but still depend on hardware limit). Any difrent OS on x10 should be fun. not that android is bad. but we can experience a lot of diffrent os without buy another phone.
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yes but HD2 is an exception to the rule, it is the ONLY phone that this has been done on.
Yet how many phones have unlocked bootloaders?
These types of threads are ridiculous and not going to get us anywhere aside from giving people false impressions
I have been living in the HD2 forum for days before I got the Xperia, because I intended to get an HD2. then I got my beloved X10.
Anyway, what I know is that the HD2 and X10 have the same CPU+GPU chipset, which is an advantage to us.
So, if any developer is interested we may contact some guys in the HD2 WP7 forum asking for help.
I know that it may not happen at all, but would we stand still?. Hopes are achieved by positive attitude and work.
Finally the unofficial update Gingerbread with CM features to X8 has been a reality with the help of one of the FreeXperia member. Although we have so many great ROMs out there it will never replicate what unique sony features is, but through this debranding engine we are very close to 2011 edition phone by SE. We have now the final release and thanks to Achotjan, but apparently due to he has no device to continually develop and support for X8, we will not have an frequent update. Below is the willingness of this guy to work on our device. In short we have to be united again like we did to bring back our great dev doixanh. If we like to have a frequent support we also have to make a move and help Achotjan.
i haven't the device in hand now , so will not be able to release new updates , if you really want to have more update on this rom , and a future ICS CM9 semc debrand engine so , donate me and wrote here on the thread the amount and confirmation number if i have necessary money to buy this device i will gladly buy the device and continue to work on
Cheers
Achotjan
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This thread is intended for all those who want to contribute in any amount that is warm in our heart.
If you will post something that against this, maybe you better shut up!
I guess we have to raise 200 (might change) dollars.
I dont know what is the exact price of x8.
To start with i will give 1dollar (might raise).
GUYS THIS IS SERIOUS IF YOU SAY YOU WILL DONATE PLEASE DO.
Please Share this to Other
Donation Link
Paypal
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Achotjan please monitor your account.
Donators:
1. deedii = 1 dollar
Yeah! C'mon guys! We'll riot Sony Ericsson! I'll see if I have any money on my card (I'm only a teenager so I don't know how much I have ) , also, we should all email Sony Ericsson with a pre-made email from here on the forum. So all you'd have to do is copy the email that some one of us XDA members will make and paste it into an email!
It could possibly change Sony's Mind!
i shoud donate ,but paypall not work in Srbija
@IrishStuff09 same here, only a teenager, but i will see if i have anything on my debit card
Im not promising i will (cuz i doubt i will have any money) but i will look
Irish to make it clear. The reason why SE doesn't support anymore 2010 series phone is because of there marketing strategy, actually there reason that the device cant handle any updates anymore because of low specs is just a cover up for the strategy. i know they are fully aware that this device can do a lot better than there cover up reason. So I think mailing them would not make any sense. If they will support X8 of course more people will choose X8 if it also have an Arc features, cheap yet powerful.
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Irish to make it clear. The reason why SE doesn't support anymore 2010 series phone is because of there marketing strategy, actually there reason that the device cant handle any updates anymore because of low specs is just a cover up for the strategy. i know they are fully aware that this device can do a lot better than there cover up reason. So I think mailing them would not make any sense. If they will support X8 of course more people will choose X8 if it also have an Arc features, cheap yet powerful.
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not realy , xperia x8 is realy a problem for SE , why ? cause of drm releated think
x8 its a armv6 cpu based device and it will take more time and effort to make all armv7 libs for armv6 , they will lose a lot of time and of mony also , other then that the reason that why my rom is stable and speedy its cause of CM7 and our hacks
SE can not do that as they need to support the device after the update if you have the same ussd errors its not serius from a big manufacter , also i already trayed even for x10 to build a AOSP with semcdebrand engine and its realy lagy cuase ther is no tweak so i think they can not do that for x8 , but for x10 they can even make real multituch but they not do that thats is another question ,
but i agree that they can update it to at leas Froyo
cheers
Achotjan
...:-( no paypall in serbia....
deedii said:
Irish to make it clear. The reason why SE doesn't support anymore 2010 series phone is because of there marketing strategy, actually there reason that the device cant handle any updates anymore because of low specs is just a cover up for the strategy. i know they are fully aware that this device can do a lot better than there cover up reason. So I think mailing them would not make any sense. If they will support X8 of course more people will choose X8 if it also have an Arc features, cheap yet powerful.
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I see, but y'know, it could do something??!!
Start a petition maybe?
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Achotjan thanks for that clarification, well that is only my opinion.
Btw is there any other means people can donate at you aside from paypal?
IrishStuff09 said:
I see, but y'know, it could do something??!!
Start a petition maybe?
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Well if its for the common good then I will always support it
We have to collect about 150$/115Euros. Achotjan need older device with unlocked bootloader or at least possibility of unlocking. Right now I'm without cash, but in 3 days I'll give Achotjan some bucks
Yes it will be a problem as well for him finding old release x8. Im also thinking about that a while ago since we have unlocking issues on new release.
Maybe someone is changing phone and has unlocked X8 to sell?
Im a teenager too :-/
but you can t buy a new phone. it s very risky about bootloader unlock...
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Best thing to do is to buy a used phone, which means he probably can unlock bootloader and it will be cheap too.
i am going to donate 2.5 gbp
deedii said:
Finally the unofficial update Gingerbread with CM features to X8 has been a reality with the help of one of the FreeXperia member. Although we have so many great ROMs out there it will never replicate what unique sony features is, but through this debranding engine we are very close to 2011 edition phone by SE. We have now the final release and thanks to Achotjan, but apparently due to he has no device to continually develop and support for X8, we will not have an frequent update. Below is the willingness of this guy to work on our device. In short we have to be united again like we did to bring back our great dev doixanh. If we like to have a frequent support we also have to make a move and help Achotjan.
This thread is intended for all those who want to contribute in any amount that is warm in our heart.
If you will post something that against this, maybe you better shut up!
I guess we have to raise 200 (might change) dollars.
I dont know what is the exact price of x8.
To start with i will give 1dollar (might raise).
GUYS THIS IS SERIOUS IF YOU SAY YOU WILL DONATE PLEASE DO.
Please Share this to Other
Donation Link
Paypal
Or Here
Achotjan please monitor your account.
Donators:
1. deedii = 1 dollar
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i am gonna donate 2.5 gbp
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where do i send to it i am in the uk and have a uk paypal i am only 14 so ic an only give 2.50 british pounds
achotjan...that true,but many devices(armv6) have froyo an 2.3 official...many samsung devices,huawei,viewsonic dual sim ,some lg devices and etc...SE,now Sony have surces to bring updates but dont wont to do that..l dont have paypall,if someone now ho to donate without pp,lets write here !
Achotjan said:
not realy , xperia x8 is realy a problem for SE , why ? cause of drm releated think
x8 its a armv6 cpu based device and it will take more time and effort to make all armv7 libs for armv6 , they will lose a lot of time and of mony also , other then that the reason that why my rom is stable and speedy its cause of CM7 and our hacks
SE can not do that as they need to support the device after the update if you have the same ussd errors its not serius from a big manufacter , also i already trayed even for x10 to build a AOSP with semcdebrand engine and its realy lagy cuase ther is no tweak so i think they can not do that for x8 , but for x10 they can even make real multituch but they not do that thats is another question ,
but i agree that they can update it to at leas Froyo
cheers
Achotjan
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But you must know that samsungs android isnt the same as sonys...
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eagleeyetom said:
Achotjan need older device with unlocked bootloader or at least possibility of unlocking.
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(and @deedii)
That's my very first thought as well.
If he goes out NOW to buy a new X8 the chances are incredibly high that he will only be able to fetch a post-11W29 device that can't be unlocked by software - this means he has to take the trouble to crack it open with either setool2 or Wotan (and both methods aren't tried yet).
I think it would be a whole lot more efficient if Achotjan would first investigate his options to either somehow get a OLD X8 that can be unlocked by the_laser's hack or determine that he can unlock a newer 11W29+ / 12W## X8 through the testpins trick.
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(and @deedii)
That's my very first thought as well.
If he goes out NOW to buy a new X8 the chances are incredibly high that he will only be able to fetch a post-11W29 device that can't be unlocked by software - this means he has to take the trouble to crack it open with either setool2 or Wotan (and both methods aren't tried yet).
I think it would be a whole lot more efficient if Achotjan would first investigate his options to either somehow get a OLD X8 that can be unlocked by the_laser's hack or determine that he can unlock a newer 11W29+ / 12W## X8 through the testpins trick.
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hmmmm, yes, if we dont contact him saying that he should buy a pre-owned x8 with the date 11w28 and below, he might go out to shops now and come back with one that we will have to crack through testpins, and this will be hard. what if there could be a fix to fill up the security hole?
nah, i doubt it. Wish there was though.....
So how'd you think we will crack these testpins? The only things i have ever hacked is someones cctv, and my neighbors wifi
EDIT: hey guys, check this out! wander what date it is......