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Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 user experience and stuff

Hi all,
today I got a X10 unit (here in Croatia there was a press conference) and X10 come with localized Android 1.6 Cupcake operating system.
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I just put battery in side and connect to Internet.
Device is great, solid construction (I also have HTC Legend), it is fast, but without multitouch

Can you, please, confirm the presence of AWS (WDCMA-IV) 1700MHz band support?
BTW Android v1.5 was Cupcake, your X10 is running Donut.
PS: I don't give a flying f*ck about multitouch, it's a classic gimmick with no use for me - I prefer to be able use my phone with one hand instead of having to perform some two-handed gymnastics nonsensical gymnastics, only to gain nothing but lose safety when, say, I'm riding a train or driving a car or walking with my daughter holding her hand.

Tnx for correcting me, so where can I check AWS?
Well, I am playing with X10 for few hours, and I think that the main problem is 1.6 Android, in comparation with Legend (which I have) it is slightly slower. This can be seen in putting widgets.

What you see is the "Donut lag" - it is a common problem among Donut-based devices.
After someone releases a 2.x port it should be gone.

Well, we will sit and wait and I will continue to use my HTC Legend, hope to see upgrade rom from SE on 2.1

I know they will, it's only the question of when...

Retail version review from Stuff Mag:

anyway, they say that SE UI is pretty laggy...

Congratulations on your new device beetleman! Glad to see you went with an excellent choice. Hope you can include some more pictures soon.. Have you tried changing the background at all?

Thanks but I won this device and also HTC Legend, last week (what can I say, best week in my life- HTC Legend was in press conference,and SE Xperia x10 on SE event- I am ICT yournalist and editor in chief of Croatian e-zine about smartphones).
So I am very lucky, but as I said, it is good device, with big potential, so in comparation with Legend, Legend has smoother UI (HTC Sense) and implementation of services, but all thanks to 2.1 Eclair, so we wait update on X10.
Today I got him, so I will play with him a while, so we will se how it goes..
my main concern is TFT screen, because AMOLED screens are much better.

beetleman said:
my main concern is TFT screen, because AMOLED screens are much better.
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...until you step outside.

hehe, so TFT screen is better outside? I thought that AMOLED was better...
Hmm we will see soon, I drive miata, without roof in a sunny day, we will see

Congratulations !
Keep us informed.

BluechipJ said:
Retail version review from Stuff Mag:
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Man even SE temselves can't get it right. They've linked that video through thier own Twitter postings, yet it was posted on Feb. 19.
Stuff.tv's actual review (which they state is of a pre-release unit) is this one posted on Monday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzqznTsA130

saltorio said:
Man even SE temselves can't get it right. They've linked that video through thier own Twitter postings, yet it was posted on Feb. 19.
Stuff.tv's actual review (which they state is of a pre-release unit) is this one posted on Monday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzqznTsA130
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Ouch! I cannot watch this: her nails are truly disgusting... what a nasty, unattractive girl.

I just took this photo 10 minute ago...

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Then I loled 5 minutes in front of this joke !
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$eriusly, SE...
Sent from my rooted x10i using Xda app

old news is old

They should change their name to $ony €ricsson.
Marketing ****...

freco said:
They should change their name to $ony €ricsson.
Marketing ****...
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Yes, that's the way I'll see them now, it will be hard to trust $€ now

That's just good business.. any business would do it.. I'm fairly confident in saying that they're not building phones just for the fun of it!!...

If Apple do this with another thing...
Oh!Wait!
Jobs always do something like this !

Μα τι καραγκιοζηδες θεε μου! τραγικοι!!

English forum.. so err.. yeah post in english so we can all read your post!

its not necessarily a marketing ploy to get more money, if anyone here has done any research or read about it they would know the x10 HD is the exact same phone as the x10 (hardware n all) it just has 2.1 (which supports hd video recording).
and obviously since the 2.1 update is supposed to come out next week they will be advertising it like crazy since its something people have been waiting for.

BULL3TPR00F said:
its not necessarily a marketing ploy to get more money, if anyone here has done any research or read about it they would know the x10 HD is the exact same phone as the x10 (hardware n all) it just has 2.1 (which supports hd video recording).
and obviously since the 2.1 update is supposed to come out next week they will be advertising it like crazy since its something people have been waiting for.
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Exactly. I don't get what the big deal. It's just a rebranding, just like how the HTC Magic was renamed the Magic+ here in Canada by Rogers when it got its Sense UI.

pointless thread, close it please :\

BULL3TPR00F said:
its not necessarily a marketing ploy to get more money, if anyone here has done any research or read about it they would know the x10 HD is the exact same phone as the x10 (hardware n all) it just has 2.1 (which supports hd video recording).
and obviously since the 2.1 update is supposed to come out next week they will be advertising it like crazy since its something people have been waiting for.
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If the point of marketing isn't to generate more money for your company, then what is it?
Sent from my rooted X10a using Tapatalk

Guys chill out! This should be considered great news for X10 owners, simply because if SE advertises the same X10 after the upgrade to 2.1 as a new phone. This means it will likely be upgraded to Froyo! Therefore, if it gets 2.2 you will also get 2.2 right ?
So actually this is good news, and it will be a pleasure if this device gets Froyo, because it rocks already! By the way if you don't mind me asking, where exactly did you capture this picture?

I also see it as a marketing strategy is simple you add something different to the existing product and ready .. thousands more sales.
but that comment you said you opened my eyes and you're right .. if Sonyericsson sell it as new phone is very possible that give new upgrade for the "new buyers"
Let's hope so! would be great news
sorry my bad english

Yes.. We can expect 2.2 at Q4 2024 from $€.
Good thought anyway.
reptile64 said:
Μα τι καραγκιοζηδες θεε μου! τραγικοι!!
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Translation (short of).
My God... what ash.... Tragic.

The X8 is not getting 2.2 or 2.3

It's official, the X8 will not be getting any android updates whatsoever beyond 2.1
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xda's good developers.., we're counting on you!

But why??? WHY ????? OMG!!!

EL_BELLACO said:
But why??? WHY ????? OMG!!!
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No idea, ask sony phaggyson, I guess they think cheap phones with great hardware that are more than capable of running 2.3 still wont get them good money even if they update it..
fkn companies, this thing is way better than the wildfire i can't get my head around why they don't wanna update it.

You're a bit late there.

You can use a custom ROM (for example the Racht's ones) to upgrade your OS Android to 2.2 or 2.3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914513

umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
in future...i will never buy another SE product!
Goin to buy HD7 or any Nokia+Microsoft product...
but Android/SE.....
NEVER AGAIN!!

That's actually quite absurd! Bad idea Sony!

Custom ROM has some bugs so it is not fully FROYO and GINGERBREAD but it is in evolve so we will have good custom ROMs in future but BE PATIENT!

mohakrastogi said:
umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
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Can you tell me which bin it's in? I'll go pick it up...

Troute said:
Can you tell me which bin it's in? I'll go pick it up...
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Haha! Now you will get a fine for throwing your phone in the bin It's not environmentally friendly
Sent from my X8 using XDA App

Phone with lower CPU can have froyo installed on it. X8 should be sufficient running froyo, either it cost lot of money to support X8 or SE think why should support 'old' series when they can make money from new one with upgrade OS.

mohakrastogi said:
umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
in future...i will never buy another SE product!
Goin to buy HD7 or any Nokia+Microsoft product...
but Android/SE.....
NEVER AGAIN!!
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Good for you!
I wanna sell this piece of $hit used before it gets any cheaper and save for a wildfire.

mohakrastogi said:
umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
in future...i will never buy another SE product!
Goin to buy HD7 or any Nokia+Microsoft product...
but Android/SE.....
NEVER AGAIN!!
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I agree. This was my first smartphone, so I had no idea what I was getting; I just wanted a dirt cheap android phone I could mess around with. With all the mods, hacks, and especially racht's custom ROMs (I couldn't believe how crappy the stock ROM was compared to those) I've been able to experiment with, I have a much better idea of what I want out of my next android phone and what it will be capable of. As for SE, you're right: never again.

Agreed. I've just installed my first ROM (2.2.1 CM HACKDROID v0.12) on my X8 and there is no way i am going back to the original!! Works great apart from a few setbacks like vibration not working, unable to move apps to SD and locks on its own sometimes while i'm using it. But having said that it's still much better than the stock OS!!

hey mister, where did you got the screen shoot? can you provide a link? why rather give a screen shot either than link?
if it is true, i will never by SE product anymore, i will rather choose I-Phone 4 either than xperia x8

Thinking of getting this.

using rcht's rom... its awesome!!!

Official Android 2.3 on X10 by Sony Ericsson

Sony Ericsson now announced to update X10 from 2.1 to Android 2.3
so its look that all the functions fully worked in x10 after it, because the custom rom of 2.3 is not working properly.
as camera is not working and others.....
the pictures are attached....
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Link to support will be apreciated But this was already known...

A few months late to the party buddy, this is yesteryear's news

Hello all
This news is good but look at the work of XDA developers...
They made a lot for rom same as CM7 and Tnmiui, i actualy use cm6.1.3 and a will use CM7.
I didn't think that sony ericsson made best rom than XDA developers.
So i just wait XDA developers use the rom 2.3 of SE to made better rom...
Sorry for the english, i'm french... ^^

Are you f*cking serious?
I hate this forum lately, too many morons

The OP still has a long way to go.

kozxmartt said:
The OP still has a long way to go.
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hahahahaha
That pic is awesome

fiscidtox said:
Are you f*cking serious?
I hate this forum lately, too many morons
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Lol, devs here also create great ROMS. But he is a little bit right, if you want a really bug free ROM, SE will provide that. It will take our Devs a little bit longer to provide such a bug-free version. I'm not saying ther aren't good. They are even VERY good. I couldn't do it better.

PlayGunsta said:
Lol, devs here also create great ROMS. But he is a little bit right, if you want a really bug free ROM, SE will provide that. It will take our Devs a little bit longer to provide such a bug-free version. I'm not saying ther aren't good. They are even VERY good. I couldn't do it better.
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Agreed, but the point of this thread was like "omg look at the news!!"
I'm just so sick of people not reading, or not bothering to search.
I see it soooo much, and it gets to me

IMO the best rom will be when we customize the SE 2.3, remove the junk, enable JIT if it won't be and similar stuff...that will probably be the daily ROM for most

fiscidtox said:
Agreed, but the point of this thread was like "omg look at the news!!"
I'm just so sick of people not reading, or not bothering to search.
I see it soooo much, and it gets to me
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+1000
Btw there is a nice pic for the topic starter I found

For those asking for the weblink
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/support/phones/xperiax10?cc=gb&lc=en
It was in the picture

The OP still has a long way to go.
[IMG]http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj182/kozxmartt/evolution.jpg[/IMG]
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Hahahahaha awesome!
Sent from my X10a using XDA App

Astral07 said:
IMO the best rom will be when we customize the SE 2.3, remove the junk, enable JIT if it won't be and similar stuff...that will probably be the daily ROM for most
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IMHO the best rom would be a CM7 rom, with all the x10 2.3.3 theming and dialer, phonebook, sms, etc. base apps =D
Sure that would be easy to port since they are both gingerbread and we should get the GB kernal in our update.

non-operator customized phones? what does this mean? will I get the update if I'm locked on o2?

trojan92 said:
non-operator customized phones? what does this mean? will I get the update if I'm locked on o2?
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I think if you flash your phone with the global generic firmware, then you can get the update.

Hey, go easy on the OP. What a nice way to introduce a new user to the community. So much hate in this forum nowadays...

Really.. you guys all need to take the good with the bad.
Learn to correct them and move onward.

!! 4 New Pictures added!! Leaked Nozomi Picture! Is this Sonys New ICS\GB UI?

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This is leaked picture of the sony ericsson nozomi, wich will (if we belive the rumors) ship with ICS. So this could be how our ICS uptade will look like...
Update 12.12.2011:
And i found this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20230317#post20230317
Sources: (not english)
http://www.areamobile.de/news/20389-sony-ericsson-nozomi-heisst-spaeter-wohl-xperia-arc-hd
http://www.techorz.com/smartphones/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-hd-nozomi-lt26i-hk/

Let's hope not, that looks like a step down from SE's current UI

i think the dockbar looks nice but the wallpaper is ugly. The statusbar is not so good t see....

Isn't that bad, though its horrible compared to Vanilla...

I think it's gingerbread, the folders look the same as sony's current 2.3.X and the notification hasn't changed, they would take everything good away from ICS so yeah... gingerbread

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I think it's gingerbread, the folders look the same as sony's current 2.3.X and the notification hasn't changed, they would take everything good away from ICS so yeah... gingerbread
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but why would they create an entire new UI for gingerbread when they already have a pretty nice one... The Notification bar is alight but the dock is horrible

TheCraig said:
but why would they create an entire new UI for gingerbread when they already have a pretty nice one... The Notification bar is alight but the dock is horrible
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The current ui is for the "xperia" range. The nozomi will be the first phone released under the Sony brand. No doubt sony intend to set themselves apart from the SE brand with there own ui.
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AndroHero said:
The current ui is for the "xperia" range. The nozomi will be the first phone released under the Sony brand. No doubt sony intend to set themselves apart from the SE brand with there own ui.
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Good point. Though I hope its vanilla as possible...

AndroHero said:
The current ui is for the "xperia" range. The nozomi will be the first phone released under the Sony brand. No doubt sony intend to set themselves apart from the SE brand with there own ui.
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But at the top of the phone is still sony ericsson and its real name will be xperia arc hd.... That does not sound like a new brand for me...

I actually LIKE the entire UI.

AndroHero said:
The current ui is for the "xperia" range. The nozomi will be the first phone released under the Sony brand.
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I doubt that. This will be a Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc HD or Nozomi. Sony Ericsson phones will still be coming out until mid-2012, that's when the first Sony branded phones will be released. This will likely be the Sony Ericsson ICS interface
Source 1 Source 2 Source 3
P.S. I really like the leaked shots of this phone so far. This may be my 2012 replacement phone if it looks anything like these shots...

I can tell you from experience.the phone is slick. Solid build quality. Very good looking and fast as u know what. I'll see if I can get more hands on time with it. Was only able to play with it for 10 minutes a couple weeks ago. The battery cover and full back has almost a felt or suede feel to it. It was running GB 2.3.5 if I remember correctly.
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Some more pictures apperead today:
But they dont show much more detail
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And i found this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20230317#post20230317

Gsmarena has exclusives which state it runs 2.3.5 gingerbread. And will do at launch