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Athena 2, Thoth, thoth 100 - When will it be available

Good day,
I am a current X7501 user on ATT in the USA and wonder if anyone has an update a to when the next Athena will become available in the US that will work on the ATT’s wireless network?
Of course asking HTC got me the usual "We will be glad to assist you with this question.... unfortunately we cannot comment on yet to be released products"
Anyone have anything they would care to share?
Also curious if MS Voice command will work with WM 6.5?
Thanks in advance for your response(s).
Claude H.

I have read on the internet that HTC have scrapped plans to make the Toth (at least as we know it as a 5 inch device). The HTC Leo is supposedly its successor and a 4.3 inch clamshell device. I hope I am wrong but that is my understanding.

I heard the same thing
So sad! I've been saving my pennies for its supposed release this year... we'll see :\
I <3 my athena!

I mentioned this before based on my observations...because of poor sales of the X7510...HTC might be reluctant to add a successor to the Athena line. You can't blame the public, HTC's designers are stupid to think that a few additions to the X7510 will make it a hit. Not to mention their stupid idea of taking off the hardware buttons and joystick design.
The HTC Leo...according to others will probably have a slider keyboard. To be honest, I prefer a clamshell type. Nonetheless the specs are marvelous. Let us hope the device actually will be mass produced then released to the public, and not just be left on the drawing board.
I still am hoping that HTC will release a proper successor to the HTC Universal with a powerful processor in clamshell design.

Thanks for the info.
I am looking forward to a large screen WM HTC phone to replace my x7501. Leo or Thoth seem to fit the bill at the moment. I did not see any other large screen WM phones about, so HTC it is.
Anyone have a clue as to when either might hit the sales channel and/or if ATT will pick up the Leo as an offeing or not.
I did not find any info on ETA for either phone on the net.
Thanks people for your input n this.
BTW: Did you all hear about WM 6.5 including "TellMe" voice command software. Too cool.
Thanks,
Claude H.
Claude H.

Anyone have any more news or infor on the Thoth or Leo?

The HTC Leo doesn't appear to be a clamshell, and I doubt a keyboard, but September may reveal more info and whether there will be a Thoth.
I suspect that the Thoth if it does come out (and I hope it will), will be the same specification as the Leo, but of course the larger screen, but the larger battery is the greatest benefit.
http://ai.rs/2009/08/htc-leo-picures-surface/
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/htc-leo-rendered-again-maybe-by-htc-more-likely-by-fans/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/latest-htc-leo-render-seemingly-confirmed-by-leaked-rom/

Do you have any news?
I am waiting for the Thoth... I hope they will release it and I hope it will have normale audio in addition to stereo speakerphones... I have an Athena 7500 and when my bluetooth ends its battery I am always lost... the size of the Thoth will make it a killer app!!

It would be a smart move for HTC to reconsider development of the Thoth 100. They seem to have been ahead of their time in maxed-out, big-screened mobile os gadgets game, I.e. now we have the iPad, the maxed out iphone, the dell mini 5, the maxed out android, the samsung mondi, the maxed out winmo classic, all pretty much filling in the nitch that the Athena, the maxed-out winmo professional pioneered.
Now would definitely be a great time for them to remind us of this fact with the Thoth 100, marketted as the original mega-convergent device that's also, as was always, still a kindle killer.
C'mon htc!

Yeah, I am really dissappointed that we didn't see something at CES. Maybe the Euro mobile phone world congress? It is less than 2 weeks off...

Xperia X2 Video Unboxing

it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to

gundamboy said:
it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to
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this is a good vid, shows all the leads etc that we will get and the unit itself which looks good.
hopefully in the next day or 2 they will upload the guy running through the software so we can see what software they included and how much they have improved it from the announcement model (if they have sorted the lag and changed or improved anything).

yeah, I'd like to see how it runs and how well it goes through the panels.
I'm considering purchasing one, just not right away...
(waiting for a price drop similar to the Xperia X1's)

double posted, my bad.

Engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/sony-ericsson-xperia-x2-lovingly-unboxed-on-video/
TAKE THAT KILLERSKINCANOE!!!11ONE!!1
lolz .

lol, awesome orelsi!
was wondering when you'd show up

FOCK! i knew it was a bad time to go for some smokes! lolz
good find my friend. although i'm pretty sure i watched it b4 i left. just forgot to post it... oh the thc in my blood is ****in with my memory.. oh well.. thats y i like it

it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.

gundamboy said:
it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.
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Me too!
Great device.....

Just got my X1 few weeks ago and now change of heart already.

the only really big problem right now is the price...
my wallet doesn't hold that much money

u need a George Costanza wallet !!
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lolz

Here is what mine looks like:

damn, I DO need a big one.

gundamboy said:
damn, I DO need a big one.
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That's what she said!
P.S. Sorry, I wasn't able to stop myself .

oh damn how did i miss this! nice! lol

Sigh... after watching the video, somehow just adds to the feeling that it really ain't much of a big improvement over the X1. But well, will still get it. And hopefully, it'll be out before the 1 year warranty of my X1 expires so that I can send it for servicing. Gotta get my keyboard issue resolved, now that I realized it ain't to do with me using a custom ROM.

If you want it to feel like a "big thing" just simply think of it as a standalone phone from the Xperia series, not as a successor to the X1.
After you establish that fact, it's just a new phone in the lineup.

I hope they won't put those pathetic earphones in the final set.
I would like to LAUGH one more time about their decision to use micro usb when all the companies in the undustry have agreed to use mini usb.

Midway through the video, just after he puts in the battery (which looks to be a standard X1 BST-41 ) - he hits a switch on the side. I was originally going to ask if that might be a Hold switch like the ASUS phones have - but I realize now its actually just a battery case lock - oh well.
Can't say I like the reduction of the buttons, makes for less customization, the micro-usb means I need to get mini-micro adapters (90% of all usb non-USB-A devices I've owned since 2002 have had Mini-USB plugs). Flat screen is nice though, being a little bigger can't hurt. Nice camera, but lower frame-rate on VGA recording like the X1a now for all editions? Mostly same specs though and no idea what software it will break... makes me with hold judgment on whether I'd ever buy it though. That and the fact I have a brand new X1 to play with in my hand right now .
Peter
P.S. Just saw your reply above me orelsi, I wish Mini-USB were the standard but I keep reading that it's now micro-usb - I'd be happy if you can prove me wrong on this Ref: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2341261,00.asp

WM7 not for Touch Diamond 2

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@ StalkerZoner for Diamond 2 firmware is not planned.Of the existing communicators on the market, only HD2 firmware to get WM7.
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http://www.redmondpie.com/windows-mobile-7-confirmed-for-htc-hd2-9140293/

There is a minimum spec hardware requirement for WM7. HD2 meets the spec but sadly Topaz is well below.
Of course, it will be interesting to see what our chefs can do with it

But maybe
I say TP, TP2, D, D2 is PLANED...
WM7 is not just one distrib... like W7 is have two level or more (maybe Pro and Stnd.) I think Stnd is for the old devs....
Maybe this will not be the end, but NOW is plane.
WM7 will have radical new kernel with driver implementation...
one hundred words is one to the end, I hope will be true

http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=94034&start=0

WP7...
Windows Phone 7... official release for TD2... dream on! In all the history of Windows Mobile devices (now Windows Phone devices), I have never seen or heard of a manufacturer / network provider offering official upgrade for a particular device twice.
TD2 has had official upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5... if you think you'll get official WP7 for this device you're living in dream land
However, that doesn't mean we won't get it for our devices. If only there was a web site somewhere with clever chefs who might be able to cook this for us... mmmm

sadly it DOES
I' sorry to bust your bubble guys but WiMo will no longer support resistive touchscreens (such as the one our TD2s have) and will thus not be able to run on the TD2 at all.
I'm pretty sure there is nothing even our chefs can do about that.

also, drivers will be a problem, since there'll be no WP7 device with Topaz hardware specifications. i'm sure some daring guys will try to port, but it will never work like a stock rom is suppose to. hope i'm wrong.

looks like im going to use the android port when shadowline finishes it then

Windows Phone 7 (user interface "METRO") preview...
Anybody know what is the mobile type in this video?

I have to say it looks incredible. It's an exceptionally clean and integrated UI, I like how they're playing nice with Gmail, Facebook etc and I'm hoping there's twitter and flickr support and the like.
I remember seeing some crummy looking Windows Mobile 7 "leaked" screenshots a few months ago... they must have been deliberately planting these to throw people off the scent becuase they are nothing like this new UI. They did a hell of a job keeping it under wraps! From dondragonka's video you can see it already looks pretty polished and fast. Impressive!
But I wonder about some of the key things I rely on with my Topaz, like spbWallet and iGo.. the app support would want to be just as slick as the UI.

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I have to say it looks incredible. It's an exceptionally clean and integrated UI, I like how they're playing nice with Gmail, Facebook etc and I'm hoping there's twitter and flickr support and the like.
I remember seeing some crummy looking Windows Mobile 7 "leaked" screenshots a few months ago... they must have been deliberately planting these to throw people off the scent becuase they are nothing like this new UI. They did a hell of a job keeping it under wraps! From dondragonka's video you can see it already looks pretty polished and fast. Impressive!
But I wonder about some of the key things I rely on with my Topaz, like spbWallet and iGo.. the app support would want to be just as slick as the UI.
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those photo's u saw were prolly "photon". it was an early development of winmo7 which they scrapped for what you now see.

Hard Reset

Does anyone here know how to factory/hard reset this phone? Sonys servers are down or something, and now I can't use the software to do it. Is there a bootup sequence or combo? I want to return this thing but need to reset it first to clear my data.
Not sure what I was thinking ever buying anything by Sony.

What ! too complicated for you ?
Look in the phone somewhere there is a master reset.
Which make phone do you usually use ?

anethema said:
Does anyone here know how to factory/hard reset this phone? Sonys servers are down or something, and now I can't use the software to do it. Is there a bootup sequence or combo? I want to return this thing but need to reset it first to clear my data.
Not sure what I was thinking ever buying anything by Sony.
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not sure if you're talking about this but goto settings>sd card & phone storage and factory reset is in there

Fast!
You guys work fast. Sorry I didn't mean to insult anyone, I've just never had anything but trouble with the quality of Sony products, and hardware wise this is ok so far, but the software is crap compared to nexus one in speed and smoothness etc. N1 should be here shortly.

But The Nexus is Android 2.1 so will be similar to the X10 wont it ? . This is my first Android phone and I presume most android phones would be similar in operating system with a few customisations.
I am an se fan
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and am real happy with this phone, I think it is the best se phone to date and a good introduction to Android.
Would the Nexus be that different ? being Android.
Mind though I was Using a P1i before this so it was a big upgrade for me in current tech so has wowed me a bit.

The X10 is only android 1.6, so quite a few apps just wont work for it. Trying the N1 and the X10 side by side I found the X10 much slower and more annoying to use.
I found their 'timescape' and 'mediascape' apps to be useless and not a good reason to hold back their from from 2.1.
The developer community seems to also be non existant.
I'm sure it will make a great phone for some, but not for me.

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I'm waiting eagerly to get my white X10. but i have to wait 1-2 more weeks since a carrier in sweden has it exlusive first 4 sale's weeks (hate them) anyways, comparing to HTC phones.. i have one.. and i'm just boored sich with their 1-4-all UI a.k.a touchflo3D/Sence it's ugly and old.. the X10 is imo a beutifull device that will beat all competition when the update comes.. with or without multi touch (most likely without)
I could not wait any more, and fiddeling with the devices in a few stores made my actually start liking the black one :> so i'm now a proud owner!

Guys i was online for hours and nothing seems to work so this is the last thing that i tried and it worked out beautifully all u have to do is download (SE-Update_Service_Setup-2.10.6.21 Google it i found it on rapid share servers) install it let it update then pick the phone that u have in our case the (XperiaX10) there is going to be 2 of them u would have to pick the one that says XperiaX10 twice once at the top and bottom once u select it follow the prompts and u all set it will install the newer software updating your phone which will hard reset it !

@ Xavega505, this thread is one and a half years old ;-)
Sent from my X10i using xda premium

I just took this photo 10 minute ago...

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Then I loled 5 minutes in front of this joke !
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$eriusly, SE...
Sent from my rooted x10i using Xda app

old news is old

They should change their name to $ony €ricsson.
Marketing ****...

freco said:
They should change their name to $ony €ricsson.
Marketing ****...
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Yes, that's the way I'll see them now, it will be hard to trust $€ now

That's just good business.. any business would do it.. I'm fairly confident in saying that they're not building phones just for the fun of it!!...

If Apple do this with another thing...
Oh!Wait!
Jobs always do something like this !

Μα τι καραγκιοζηδες θεε μου! τραγικοι!!

English forum.. so err.. yeah post in english so we can all read your post!

its not necessarily a marketing ploy to get more money, if anyone here has done any research or read about it they would know the x10 HD is the exact same phone as the x10 (hardware n all) it just has 2.1 (which supports hd video recording).
and obviously since the 2.1 update is supposed to come out next week they will be advertising it like crazy since its something people have been waiting for.

BULL3TPR00F said:
its not necessarily a marketing ploy to get more money, if anyone here has done any research or read about it they would know the x10 HD is the exact same phone as the x10 (hardware n all) it just has 2.1 (which supports hd video recording).
and obviously since the 2.1 update is supposed to come out next week they will be advertising it like crazy since its something people have been waiting for.
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Exactly. I don't get what the big deal. It's just a rebranding, just like how the HTC Magic was renamed the Magic+ here in Canada by Rogers when it got its Sense UI.

pointless thread, close it please :\

BULL3TPR00F said:
its not necessarily a marketing ploy to get more money, if anyone here has done any research or read about it they would know the x10 HD is the exact same phone as the x10 (hardware n all) it just has 2.1 (which supports hd video recording).
and obviously since the 2.1 update is supposed to come out next week they will be advertising it like crazy since its something people have been waiting for.
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If the point of marketing isn't to generate more money for your company, then what is it?
Sent from my rooted X10a using Tapatalk

Guys chill out! This should be considered great news for X10 owners, simply because if SE advertises the same X10 after the upgrade to 2.1 as a new phone. This means it will likely be upgraded to Froyo! Therefore, if it gets 2.2 you will also get 2.2 right ?
So actually this is good news, and it will be a pleasure if this device gets Froyo, because it rocks already! By the way if you don't mind me asking, where exactly did you capture this picture?

I also see it as a marketing strategy is simple you add something different to the existing product and ready .. thousands more sales.
but that comment you said you opened my eyes and you're right .. if Sonyericsson sell it as new phone is very possible that give new upgrade for the "new buyers"
Let's hope so! would be great news
sorry my bad english

Yes.. We can expect 2.2 at Q4 2024 from $€.
Good thought anyway.
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Translation (short of).
My God... what ash.... Tragic.