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There have been a lot of posts about slow speeds and 4G issues. There's been speculation on PRI, radios and MAC addresses. My goal with this thread is to create a roll-call for everyone with problems and what they're running with. With this data, hopefully we can draw better conclusions to why we're having issues.
PLEASE POST YOUR DETAILS AS FOLLOWS IF YOU'RE REPORTING SLOW SPEEDS:
ROM: HTC-OTA-3.26.651.6-Final-Froyo-Rooted-Odexed-netarchy-signed
BASELAND: 2.15.00.07.28
KERNEL: 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 [email protected] #58
BUILD: 3.26.651.6 CL218634
PRI: 1.34_003
PRL: 60669
3G: 500-700kbps (average)
4G: 0 [SpeedTest.net app would not connect over 4G]
TommyNY said:
There have been a lot of posts about slow speeds and 4G issues. There's been speculation on PRI, radios and MAC addresses. My goal with this thread is to create a roll-call for everyone with problems and what they're running with. With this data, hopefully we can draw better conclusions to why we're having issues.
ROM: HTC-OTA-3.26.651.6-Final-Froyo-Rooted-Odexed-netarchy-signed
BASELAND: 2.15.00.07.28
KERNEL: 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 [email protected] #58
BUILD: 3.26.651.6 CL218634
PRI: 1.34_003
PRL: 60669
3G: 500-700kbps (average)
4G: 0 [SpeedTest.net app would not connect over 4G]
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Welcome to Sprint, the NOT Network
or
Welcome to Sprint, The Now UNnetwork.
sprint and slow speeds/spotty service go hand in hand.
to be truthful, people have reported that an unrooted stock phone does better in the same location than a rooted phone.
but others have reported no difference.
for me its a mixed bag but the difference is minor, minor enough that you can chaulk it up to margin or error.
my speeds in my town are fracking all over the spectrum, and i mean that. it's never the same form hour to hour.
and worst of all at my work location and the surrounding 3/4 to 1 mile radius is in a Data Dead Zone, there is almost no data for some reason, but plenty of signal. and when i go into my building i start to roam, and i get faster speeds roaming than i do if i walk outside and get full bars.
That should be a new acronym, DDZ - Data Dead Zone.
now i have never taken the wife on a drive with me to test her unrooted phone at my work area, but plan to soon.
I know that I got a little bit better 3g speeds at home before rooted, and I don't know if it was because I moved to 2.2, but my 4G speeds have went down alot, and hardly work, though thats how it was before, but for a week or so it was perfect 5mb/s, but now I can't have consistant speeds, it gets down to like 1mb/s now, and doesn't even top 2mb/s.
I did a quick, unscientific, test the other day in my house comparing my 3G to 4G speeds. I sat in the exact same spot and ran the speedtest and my 4G speeds were 1.07mb and my 3G speeds were 1.03mb..........Pretty dissappointing.
I never gone past 140 kbs on download on 3g here in wisconsin with 3g.. it be nice if they come out with 4g support to cover most customers when they comeout with a phone made for 4g.. i tried the whole list of cities and at different times.. top speed of 140 kbs.
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What I'm looking for is for anyone who's having similar issues to report their software details. With this info we can drill down what could be causing these issues.
I just posted my results. So I don't see an issue and it looks like your area.
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novanosis85 said:
I just posted my results. So I don't see an issue and it looks like your area.
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New York City?
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I'm Chicago.
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New York City?
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It very well could be degregated performance in NYC. I know awhile back ATT was telling their customers to use wifi whenever possible because of the network congestion:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/05/25/att.free.wifi.nyc.cnet/index.html
I live in the chicago suburbs and around my house 4G and 3G speeds are terrible. However, if I venture about 5 minutes out, towards the elgin area specifically, I have seen speeds of up to 11mbs. Its just a little dissapointing that I appear to be on some crummy fringe area, but if I drive a couple miles out my speeds improve SO much.
martyzidek said:
I never gone past 140 kbs on download on 3g here in wisconsin with 3g.. it be nice if they come out with 4g support to cover most customers when they comeout with a phone made for 4g.. i tried the whole list of cities and at different times.. top speed of 140 kbs.
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Dunno what ur doing dude but I live in WI and hit 2000kbps consistent
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In palatine I get 10.5 mbps consistently and I am rooted.
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Where in wisconsin? Live in sheboygan..
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Meh...I'm in Kentucky and in Louisville and Lexington I get an average of 1.0-1.5Mbps...it rairly ever drops under.
~Jasecloud4
I have read all of the PRI threads and really don't know if that is a cause for slow speeds or not. The problem I have is that I can do a speed test 5 times in a row and get 5 completely different results. A couple of nights ago I did about 6 speed tests over a 1 hour period. they ranged from 296 kbps down to 2198 kbps down (all on 3g). I just think that Sprints network, at least where I live is pretty unreliable.
For the record my specs are.
ROM-Fresh 3.1.0.1
baseband-2.15.00.07.28
Kernel-2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 [email protected] #58
Software-3.26.651.6
PRI: 1.34_003
PRL: 60669
martyzidek said:
Where in wisconsin? Live in sheboygan..
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Two rivers...30 minutes north
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Anyone else in Tempe/Phoenix have their 3g speeds die? My download speed has slowed to a crawl, just did speedtest a little bit ago and it actually showed -1kbps.
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St. Louis, MO with 1 bar of 4G. Stock everything.
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Okay, so I had a very bone stock DI18 straight from Sprint TODAY, and I used the EB13 update.zip from the webpage.
I am getting
33kbps download
245kbps upload
Someone please post results making this thread useless. Thank you.
heathmcabee said:
Okay, so I had a very bone stock DI18 straight from Sprint TODAY, and I used the EB13 update.zip from the webpage.
I am getting
33kbps download
245kbps upload
Someone please post results making this thread useless. Thank you.
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Is this 3g speed? Trying updating your profile!!
shook187 said:
Is this 3g speed? Trying updating your profile!!
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Updated Profile, ran speedtest again:
28Kbps download
220 kbps upload
My god, is this really true?
My 3G speeds are not any better.
Last two tests:
268 down, 370 up
259 down, 282 up
This is not good, I bet others are having the same problem regarding the modem update. This is gonna turn out bad. Other people who have not D/L speedtest from the market please do so, and give us your results. This will give us a good census of if this modem is completely f-ed for us in the states, and not Korea.
Did you pick the nearest server? Obvious, I know, but I just want to cover all the bases.
617 kbps down, 507 kbps up for me.
Mines are not that bad at all...!!!
3g:
435 d / 515 u
187 d / 96 u
4g:
4801 d / 987 u
3616 d / 958 u
I just got 700KB down and 400KB up. This was on my second closest server. When i used the closest server i only got 99KB down and 60KB up. Try a different server.
JD
1367 down 642 up. Its not a EB13 issue.
hmm.. I'm getting only 256k down on 3g but over 7mbps on 4g atm...
my 3g used to be around 3mbps give or take.. I'll not write anything into it untill i can test it again tomorrow. might be a network issue
on 3g After eb13
.28 mbps down
.15 mbps up
before eb13 update,
1.56 mbps down
.75mbps up
On 4g after eb13
2.36mbps down
1.10mbps up
before eb13
7.35 mbps down
1.25 mbps up
136 down 308 up
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My speed sucks too, but they always did on 3g. Thank god for 4g!!!
Mine are really inconsistent, but here's my 3g.
1039/435
672/706
1091/274
940/563
554/506
Is there a way to pick a different server with this app?
my test
hey wassup guys here are my results
1353:dwn
462:up
test 1
1002:dwn
up:212
test 2
hope this helps fellas
This info is useless without knowing how many bars of signal you have. Low signal = slow speeds
764 down, 642 up. 4g wasn't much better, but I wsas surprised it even connected at home (never had before). Not sure how accurate the app is tho... the instant results where all over the place with 4g speed bursting over 3Mbps for a fraction of a second.
Edit: 1 bar 4g, 2-4 bars 3g.
Edit 2: somethings definately not right... kinda doubt its the modem. I ran the test on wifi, and the best I got as 6433Kbps down & 1514Kbps up... I have 12x1.5 uverse and a test on my laptop yielded 10Mbps/1.5Mbps off the same server.
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This info is useless without knowing how many bars of signal you have. Low signal = slow speeds
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Please disregard this Verizon "can you hear me now?" interruption and keep posting. We have mixed results. Run speedtest guys without 4g!
A month ago, the fasted I could download a file was roughly 750 kb/s. Today, I his 1.2MB and stayed there for a little bit. That's almost a 500kb/s increase.
We've had 2 PRL updates since I last tried and the rumor that Sprint has been beefing up its 4g network.
I can notice it, anyone else?
i usually get 5-8mbps since it first started showing up
I can definitely agree!
PRL updates have NOTHING to do with speeds ON the sprint network. They only tell the phone what towers to roam on when roaming, thats it.
As far as 4g speeds in Columbus, the last 3 times I was there for work, I could easily pull in 6mbps down, and about 3mbps up. Although the signal strength was very spotty though.
What's your 3g speeds like if your 4g is that slow? I average 1.2 on my 3g
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wish i had 4g .... hell wish i had good 3g speeds
I was looking for a thread to see what kind of speeds people are getting on 3g, 4g, and wifi. I could not find one for the epic (also I wanted to see with ec05). I will downlod speedtest tomorrow so please post your speeds. Thanks
At home, 3G usually pulls about 1800-2000 kbps Download and 760 average upload.
On WiFi, I get between 6,000 kbps to 15,000 kbps (depending on server.)
On 4G, I mostly get 1200 mbps (yes, very slow), but in certain areas, I can get up to 8000 kbps and upload is maxed out @ 1000 kbps on 4G.
EDIT: When I get my phone, I'll grab you some screenshots.
I am near Chicago.
I took an average of a few readings.
3G
2.18 DL 1.02 UL
4g
6.88 DL 1.13 UL
WIFI
18.38 DL 3.83 UL
I am just wondering if these speeds are good for the new modem. I feel like they are slower then they where before, but maybe others are having better overall numbers with this modem.
Top few are 4g, all the ones under 1mbps are 3g. 3g is absolutely terrible in my area
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Lol that's like my home internet speed, where are you located that you are getting such insane speeds on 4G? I get sketchy 4G here in Northern NJ.
I live in Yakima, WA and on 3G I get 500-750kbps down and 250-500 kbps up, depending on signal strength. On 4G I get anywhere from 2 mbps to 6 mbps down and 500 kbps up, again depending on signal strength. On Wifi I get what my home internet is, 18 mbps down and 2 mbps up.
3g: 630 down, 420 up
4g: not available in my area
Phone Wifi: 8.69 down, 1.77 up
Laptop Wifi: 27.76 down, 1.68 up
3g: down 496 up 252
4g: down 1394 up 52
Location: la
Anyone know why my speeds are so slow?
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3g: down 496 up 252
4g: down 1394 up 52
Location: la
Anyone know why my speeds are so slow?
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I'm in Anaheim Hills, and connect to the LA server as well. If I'm up in Brea on 4G, it's up in the 8-9mbps range. I think I'm on the outer area of the tower's reach. Voice still works, which is all I care about when I'm at home.
I had been getting 3g speeds anywhere from 1200 down and 400 up but the last few days I gave gone down to 200 down and 100 up on average using speedtest. In Memphis tn. Using slingplayer however it s streams great so I am thinking speed test is screwy. If I can stream video at hd quality it can't be that low
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3G without Airave: 400 DL // 100 UL
3G with Airave: 1800 DL // 100-125 UL
I don't understand why the upload is remeniscent of the old days! (running Syndicate Frozen EC05, on Twilight/Vision kernels)
At my house I get about
16mbps wifi down, 1.5mbps wifi up
8mbps 4G down, 4.5mbps 4gup
never tested 3g >_>
I posted on the second post that I'd update w/ screenies. Here it goes.
First screenie is on 3G @ my house.
Second screenie is my Comcast ISP via WiFi.
I don't have 4G at my house, so I cannot test it there.
quick99si said:
3G without Airave: 400 DL // 100 UL
3G with Airave: 1800 DL // 100-125 UL
I don't understand why the upload is remeniscent of the old days! (running Syndicate Frozen EC05, on Twilight/Vision kernels)
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Did you get stock EC05 first from OTA? I get 500 upload now that I did. Odin'ing the EC05 modem is apparently not the same. I was only getting 100 up before.
Do you BONSAI?
WOW. my phone is crazy slow.
i usually get 200 download on 3g and 500 download on 4g. i'm in silicon valley. my 4g can hit 8k, but my 4g connection stability is poor.
maybe i need a modem and rom reflash?
chuhsi said:
WOW. my phone is crazy slow.
i usually get 200 download on 3g and 500 download on 4g. i'm in silicon valley. my 4g can hit 8k, but my 4g connection stability is poor.
maybe i need a modem and rom reflash?
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Nope, I've got MidNIGHT rom v5.2 and it's by far the most stable. You can try to reflash the ROM, but I think it's just that 4G signal in your area is poor.
I use WIFI when I'm at home and 3g at work (no 4g in my area). I'm usually averaging 400 to 600 (on a great day) of download speed. I've only used 4G once and that was while I was in Oakland for a baseball game and that topped out at 3.00.
laptop wifi
dl: 14.55mbps
ul: 4.00mbs
phone wifi (just tested phone again before posting)
dl: 8446kbps (10217kbps)
ul: 1678kbps (4064kbps)
phone 3g
dl: 316kbps
ul: 100kbps
This is inside my house. Which I can't even send a text with where I am right now. I have to use roam control in my house. Go outside and on the west side, get about the same speeds. Walk out to the street,maybe 30 yards(very rural/suburb/country area) 3g goes way up. I can start grabbing 4g but not reliable. But also just standing without moving my phone will constantly go up and down from full service to no bars.
A week or so ago I was at a friends apartment. He has the Evo. We both tested the 4g and he was over 10m while I was around 7m. And my 4g would drop as I was using the web, but his held it strong.
I've just given up on 4g. Most the time I want it I probably have wifi, and the other times the 3g is fast enough to load whatever while I'm still waiting for the 4g to get out of bed.
If I remember I'll try to grab some more tomorrow.
edit: fwiw I am running srf w/genocide kernel 200-1120 w/no uv'ing
With Airave 3G I get 1500 up and 650 down. I OTA'd the EC05. It was a LOT slower when I Odin'd the EC05 modem.
I recently updated to stock GB and decided to try some speed tests in different parts of the the city today. This is my first experience with EI22 or anything not based on EC05 for that matter.
Anyway, in my neighborhood (Morningside Heights), data speeds have always been terrible, but I was able to pull pretty decent 3G speeds in most of the rest of Manhattan with Froyo. Today, I drove through Manhattan, starting as far south as Union Square, and worked my way all the way back up the west side. In short, 3G speeds were the worst I've seen them. Areas were I was able to pull in upwards of 0.8 Mbps with Froyo, I could barely crack 0.3 Mbps with Gingerbread. The best I got was about 8th Ave and 14th, were my downstream was 0.5 and upstream of 0.73. Everywhere else hovered between 0.12 and 0.3 down and 0.2 to 0.63 up. In every case, as per usual, 3G upstream was faster than down.
I have no idea if this is a Gingerbread issue, the fault of my Epic or if Sprint's 3G network is just that much worse now than it was a few weeks back, but this is far and away the worst I've seen it since becoming a Sprint customer.
I only ran a handful of 4G speed tests, and those had downstream speeds between 7.33 Mbps and 8.74 Mbs, and meager upstream between 1.37 Mbps and 1.46 Mbps.
I blame apple
They copyrighted 3g and decided to to sue sprint
Sprint was then forced to comply to apples demands and turn of 3g
What you get is now only 2g unless u have an iphone
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Ummm.. I really hope you don't believe that. That really is a ridiculous claim..
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I don't think it's gingerbread. I believe it has to do with all the new iphone subscriber on the network. I've noticed my speeds got crappy ever since the iphones release. I even had my sister asking me to take a look at her Evo because she said it takes forever to load on 3g. Only remedy so far is turning on 4g if you have coverage lol
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I don't think it's gingerbread. I believe it has to do with all the new iphone subscriber on the network. I've noticed my speeds got crappy ever since the iphones release. I even had my sister asking me to take a look at her Evo because she said it takes forever to load on 3g. Only remedy so far is turning on 4g if you have coverage lol
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I agree. Still on Froyo , here are my 7 AM Sat results (Upper East Side, 90's):
3G:
0.34 - 0.7 MBPS down, 0.6 - 0.7 MBPS up, PING: 87-122 MS
- most ping times were under 100 MS
- d/l speeds are inconsistent but generally are closer to the lower end of the range number rather than the higher end
4G:
2.95 - 8.77 MBPS down, 1.47 - 1.50 MBPS up, PING: 119-126 MS
- ping times are consistent, although sucky
- download speeds are very insconsistent
Conclusions:
- it is NOT Gingerbread.
- it is NOT the iPhone launch either - these speeds are similar to what I had since August, way prior to the iPhone launch.
- Sprint's 3G: you get what you pay for. Wifey's completely stock Droid 2 Global (VZW) pulls 1.5 - 2 MBPS down consistently, with consistent PINGs in the 70 MS range.
- Sprint's 4G: great if you can find it, but spotty coverage and battery life drain limit its usefulness. Would take consistent 1.5 MBPS+ 3G with in-building penetration over current version of WiMax any day of the week.
Sprint 3G has always sucked in NYC
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Sprint 3G has always sucked in NYC
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Not when I had my Hero. Sprints 3g was pulling upto 5mbps
But ever since I got the epic, my 3g has been horrible. 4g has ALWAYS been great (I keep it running when I'm in ny) but 3g took a big hit.
I came down to florida the day of the snowstorm so I haven't really gotten to see the speeds get worst in nyc, but down here on 3g I'm getting 1.8 mbps (atleast on eh06... since I've upgraded to ei22, I've noticed things taking a bit longer to load but ima blame that on my phone still getting used to the modem.) I haven't ran speedtests with ei22 yet. Ima wait a couple of days.
I expect when I come home, for 3g to be even more atrocious than it was.
Trust me bro...keep 4g on in the city. It stays connected along the entire 6 train line in the bronx and all throughout manhattan. I haven't gone to brooklyn in a while but I imagine 4g is upto par there too.
I blame the 3g problems on all of the inevitable iphone 4/s owners in the city...
I suspect its all the iphone users in nyc
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Sprint 3G has always sucked in NYC
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As I said in my original post, I've pulled considerably better 3G speeds in other parts of the city before. For instance, in NoHo, I could consistently pull around .75Mbps. That same area now won't let me crack .3Mbps.
htc phones get better signal than sammy phones
i forgot about this phones but my epic touch uses a 5 year old antenna or something like that while the evo 3d uses a relativity new one hence better signal and speeds
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htc phones get better signal than sammy phones
i forgot about this phones but my epic touch uses a 5 year old antenna or something like that while the evo 3d uses a relativity new one hence better signal and speeds
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I've noticed a few of the more honest Sprint reps I've spoken with have said that the HTC devices have considerably better antennae than the Epic. Supposedly the HTCs are crappier in every other respect, though. I still hold that Sprint's 3G in NYC is worse than it was a month or so ago.
Things down started slowinglast Jul IIRC. If you think Sprint 3G is bad in NYC, try Suffolk County, Long Island... unless you're next to a tower, it's often slower than thick molasses, dying snails and glaciers.
Now off Froyo EC05 and onto GB EI22 rom, the measured speeds are (drumroll!) exactly the same. As for 4g connectivity, it has dead zones in various places i.e. Upper West Side. I don't know how people manage to keep 4g on all the time and not run out of juice - extended or extra batteries?
Lol at the guy who said it was apple...
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Things down started slowinglast Jul IIRC. If you think Sprint 3G is bad in NYC, try Suffolk County, Long Island... unless you're next to a tower, it's often slower than thick molasses, dying snails and glaciers.
Now off Froyo EC05 and onto GB EI22 rom, the measured speeds are (drumroll!) exactly the same. As for 4g connectivity, it has dead zones in various places i.e. Upper West Side. I don't know how people manage to keep 4g on all the time and not run out of juice - extended or extra batteries?
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Same with Nassau.
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Things down started slowinglast Jul IIRC. If you think Sprint 3G is bad in NYC, try Suffolk County, Long Island... unless you're next to a tower, it's often slower than thick molasses, dying snails and glaciers.
Now off Froyo EC05 and onto GB EI22 rom, the measured speeds are (drumroll!) exactly the same. As for 4g connectivity, it has dead zones in various places i.e. Upper West Side. I don't know how people manage to keep 4g on all the time and not run out of juice - extended or extra batteries?
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I live on deer park avenue and work on 110, if it weren't for optimum wifi, I'm pretty sure I'd have killed myself by now (that's the only positive thing you'll ever hear me say about cablevision, lol)
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marcusant said:
Lol at the guy who said it was apple...
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Yay there is someone who gets a joke
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Things down started slowinglast Jul IIRC. If you think Sprint 3G is bad in NYC, try Suffolk County, Long Island... unless you're next to a tower, it's often slower than thick molasses, dying snails and glaciers.
Now off Froyo EC05 and onto GB EI22 rom, the measured speeds are (drumroll!) exactly the same. As for 4g connectivity, it has dead zones in various places i.e. Upper West Side. I don't know how people manage to keep 4g on all the time and not run out of juice - extended or extra batteries?
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In my neighborhood, I can't stay connected to 4G at all. Usually, I can get on and I'm then dropped within a couple of minutes. If I'm driving around Manhattan, I can stay on 4G for a chunk of the time, but usually get dropped in a few places. 4G is nice when it works: the speeds typically range anywhere from 5Mbps to 8Mbps in the areas of Manhattan I've used it. That being said, it's tendency to just drift in and out make it pretty hard to deal with. There are also a few total Sprint dead zones in areas where dead zones should exist - for example, around 34th and Park, there's almost zero coverage.
sitting by a window on 110th and Broadway, ran the speed test app 3 times to check 3G speeds:
Ping 286 - Download 0.12 Mbps - Upload 0.29 Mbps
Ping 362 - Download 0.01 Mbps - Upload 0.23 Mbps
Ping 356 - Download 0.03 Mbps - Upload 0.27 Mbps
remind me why I'm paying for this
I have been seeing some pretty crappy speeds myself (not in New York though).
Nothing nearly as slow as what I had been seeing for awhile. You should also take into consideration that Sprint has been rolling out the GB update OTA so that could be what's causing the abysmal speeds lately?
I noticed a huge difference in 3G today. Could be because the majority of the people got the update? Just a thought. But speeds are blazing fast for me on 3G today and it hasn't been since GB rolled out.