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Ive been searching for a while but didnt find this topic.
I like using android cause its a better os than winmo, and cause it connects to tmo 4g at 2800 kbps unlike the stock winmo rom that tmo pda engineers said is software capped for 3g speeds of 640kbps.
Is there a customized stock winmo rom thats avalible that has ability to see and connect to the 4g "H" network? Reason i ask is i do
still have use for winmo on hd2 for work purposes and when i do need to have it on for work, would like to browse web as fast as i do when android is on.
Thanks
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Embalmer said:
Ive been searching for a while but didnt find this topic.
I like using android cause its a better os than winmo, and cause it connects to tmo 4g at 2800 kbps unlike the stock winmo rom that tmo pda engineers said is software capped for 3g speeds of 640kbps.
Is there a customized stock winmo rom thats avalible that has ability to see and connect to the 4g "H" network? Reason i ask is i do
still have use for winmo on hd2 for work purposes and when i do need to have it on for work, would like to browse web as fast as i do when android is on.
Thanks
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I don't think it's the software, I'm pretty sure it's the hardware, the HD2 can't handle the speeds, it wasn't designed for it. I think TMO might have been talking about the new G2 that CAN handle the newer speeds.
It can handle up to atleast 3000kbps. but the engineers said its software capped at 3g, and confirmed that the android ports can reach higher 4g speeds (he said his did the same). its something in the android roms that unlocks it to work to atleast 2700kbps from the tests ive done with winmo and android (winmo full bar "3g" 700kbps android full bar "H" 2750kbps from mobilespeedtest.com). being in boston the 4g is live, and the 2 speed tests and completely different. I asked if there was going to be an update from htc to unlock windows mobil to use 4g as it can handle it, probably not as fast as g2, but faster than standard 3g. He said probably not so they can sell their g2, and suggested for the faster net to continue using the android port.
So figured id look here, and see if its been done yet, or that if its now a known issue, if the dev's can make something to unlock it.
That is odd. I used Elegancia and now ChuckyDroid and both of those show an H as my connection. With Elegancia I would easily get 2400 around town. Never tried with ChuckyDroid as I boot directly to Android now.
You should not be capped. Not with any of these ROMS here. Many have posted figures as high as 3000+ on this board.
Yeah im using the stock 3.15 tmo rom, and the darkstone desire hd rom. I try to stick to factory rom as i find it easier to navigate,and like the htc clock/weather widget (nice seeing if its raining ect before i leave the office)
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On Android on my HD2, I topped out (using speedtest.net) at ~560 kB/sec (bytes) download, and 160 kB/sec upload. I guess that is somewhere around 4.5-5 mb/sec rate?
I'm in nyc metro area
Embalmer said:
Yeah im using the stock 3.15 tmo rom, and the darkstone desire hd rom. I try to stick to factory rom as i find it easier to navigate,and like the htc clock/weather widget (nice seeing if its raining ect before i leave the office)
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You need to try the energy roms they allow you to connect to H. There are several in the thread, some offering a very factory feel but better and more efficient. (They also retain the clock widget and few cool variants of it)
Embalmer said:
Ive been searching for a while but didnt find this topic.
I like using android cause its a better os than winmo, and cause it connects to tmo 4g at 2800 kbps unlike the stock winmo rom that tmo pda engineers said is software capped for 3g speeds of 640kbps.
Is there a customized stock winmo rom thats avalible that has ability to see and connect to the 4g "H" network? Reason i ask is i do
still have use for winmo on hd2 for work purposes and when i do need to have it on for work, would like to browse web as fast as i do when android is on.
Thanks
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I have always got the H symbol
with all the stock ROMS. And with speed tests teathered I get over 4Mbps. so It's not capped by software. BTW, I get those speeds on mobile speed tests too.
Yeah that information about the software being capped is complete crap. I use the stock 2.15 ROM and I consistently get 3Mbps AT LEAST on H and most of the time around 4Mbps while im out and about. For whatever reason it sounds like your Android port is "faster", but it also sounds like you use WinMo at work, and Android in other places, which would also definately account for your difference in speeds. The hardware itself is also most definately capable of utilizing "4G"(as I was recently just made aware).
Actually the test was taken at same spot, in parkinglot with full bars. Start in android get 2750 with "h" reboot to windows, same spot full bar "3g" and get 650. Wont connect to "h" in windows
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check this
there is a spot in the data settings where you can turn HSPA on and off make sure yours isn't turned off. I don't have the stock rom so I am not sure where it is on there any more. I do know that it isn't turned on by default on some phones for some reason though.
Im in the Bronx,New York City area. Back in march when the phone 1st on the market . I was able to get speeds of 2.5-3.0mb/sec On H . Now I can only get 1.4 or so . It's fast enough that I can stream netflix movies thru my H connection to my Laptop when I'm on the go say on the Bus uptown. Right I'm using the energy 21680 rom with 2.14.50.04 radio.
Just because you don't see H doesn't mean your not connected to the H network. Many roms, including the stock roms, have the H symbol hidden. Many customized roms usually show H. Don't worry about seeing H or not.
In regards to the speed in android vs. win mobile, my hd2 gets slower speeds in windows mobile and much faster speeds in android in many areas. I download at around 1000/300kbps but on android i would get 3000/500kbps. I would imagine its because android uses ppp or rmnet connection methods vs. whatever windows mobile uses. (I think its ppp and rmnet at least. don't ask me what they do, not too sure)
Embalmer said:
It can handle up to atleast 3000kbps. but the engineers said its software capped at 3g, and confirmed that the android ports can reach higher 4g speeds (he said his did the same). its something in the android roms that unlocks it to work to atleast 2700kbps from the tests ive done with winmo and android (winmo full bar "3g" 700kbps android full bar "H" 2750kbps from mobilespeedtest.com). being in boston the 4g is live, and the 2 speed tests and completely different. I asked if there was going to be an update from htc to unlock windows mobil to use 4g as it can handle it, probably not as fast as g2, but faster than standard 3g. He said probably not so they can sell their g2, and suggested for the faster net to continue using the android port.
So figured id look here, and see if its been done yet, or that if its now a known issue, if the dev's can make something to unlock it.
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please explain to me how ive hit 5.5mbps on my stock rom? The stock HD2 software/hardware is fully capable of utilizing HSPA 7.2 though you'll likely never see 7.2 mbps in real world usage due to network congestion and TCP/IP overhead. like others have said on here, tmobile hides the "H" on their stock rom. why? ive no clue, maybe to not confuse the hell out of your joe blow customer who knows what 3G is but hasnt a clue what the H means
Out of curiosity though, does anyone know what needs to be changed in a stock rom to make it display the H? im assuming its a registry mod, or a replacement icon library file which contains the H icon
djdanska said:
Just because you don't see H doesn't mean your not connected to the H network. Many roms, including the stock roms, have the H symbol hidden. Many customized roms usually show H. Don't worry about seeing H or not.
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That is very true. Using the stock notification icons, I could only see [3G], but using a custom set with the stock ROM(or any ROM for that matter), I switch between [H] and [3G]. Thanks for pointing that out!
ashasaur said:
That is very true. Using the stock notification icons, I could only see [3G], but using a custom set with the stock ROM(or any ROM for that matter), I switch between [H] and [3G]. Thanks for pointing that out!
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Curious if you could link to this custom icon set that can be installed on the stock rom?
I do not remember where I got it from exactly, or who made it, but I do know that there are a plethora of them available in the "HD2 Themes and Apps" sub forum of the LEO section here at XDA. Heres what my homescreen looks like now with the custom icons:
How To Set HD2-Windows for 4G Network
Buster3616 said:
You need to try the energy roms they allow you to connect to H. There are several in the thread, some offering a very factory feel but better and more efficient. (They also retain the clock widget and few cool variants of it)
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PLEASE WHAT ARE THE STEPS I NEED TO TAKE TO CONFIGURE MY HD2-WINDOWS MOBILE SO THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO T-MOBILE 4G NETWORK? [new york city area]
yinka11691 said:
PLEASE WHAT ARE THE STEPS I NEED TO TAKE TO CONFIGURE MY HD2-WINDOWS MOBILE SO THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO T-MOBILE 4G NETWORK? [new york city area]
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Please don't use all CAPS, it is considered shouting.
Not to be too obvious, but have you purchased a data plan from T-Mobile? If so, they can assist far better than we can.
Your HD2 will not connect to "4G"....
You may be getting confused with HSDPA which over here sometimes gets called "3.5G"
Ok, was getting ready to flash a new ROM (ViperROM Trinity), and saw I needed to first flash DK28 modem and PIT(whatever those are?), anyway, installed ODIN, loaded the files like it said (only, it said use modem.bin, all I had was modem.tar, but seemed to work) and now my DATA is super slow. I used to get about 1Mb down and over 600 k up on 3G and 6-8mb down and 1.3mb up on 4G, now I'm getting 60k down and 150k up on 3G and 600k down and 600k up on 4G.
Also, have Signal Status Bar app installed, gives me my dbm for signal, Usually the CDMA and EVDO are about the same, but now I can have good CDMA (-70 or so) but I am only showing -1dbm on EVDO all the time, it never changes.
I have flashed back to stock Eclair, up to the leaked stock Froyo, a rooted stock Froyo, and now using Viper Trinity ROM, nothing seems to help.
I honestly don't know if I was having this problem before I flashed the modem and PIT or not, but nothing I do fixes it. I have been all over the place today traveling as far as 40 miles from home, still same everywhere.
FWIW, I had already upgraded to the leaked stock Froyo ROM before I used ODIN to flash the DK28 modem and PIT, I just didn't realize I didn't need to do that before flashing the ROM since I already had it.
Any ideas out there?
Download the data governor fix from ViperRom's thread. Follow the directions. Just make sure to take it easy on data. Don't constantly download large files.
hm, I'll try this. Ya, my 3g data speeds have gone down to around 20-30 kb/sec on average... You think this might help it?
It doesn't seem like the data problem is a "governing" issue.. But could anyone elaborate on what this actually does, or what the data problem is?
Thx for the tip!
Sent from the future.
Edit: applied viper's governor fix, and will continue to test- initial speed tests seem faster, but still under 100kbytes/sec down, about 70 kb up.
Sent from the future.
I wonder if since you just reflashed if you are syncing google/fb/twitter stuffs. and its slowing you down.
I noticed it too, I get around 40kb down and that sucks a lot, luckily I get 4g at work
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DotMpeg said:
luckily I get 4g at work
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show off.
Some of us have to drive 100 miles to get near 4g.
Kcarpenter said:
I wonder if since you just reflashed if you are syncing google/fb/twitter stuffs. and its slowing you down.
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no-- the stuff I'm syncing didn't change before/after flash, but I have most turned off:
Account sync: only Gmail (I do contacts and calendar manually)
No Facebook sync (..but I wonder what the SNS service is).
No twitter syncing.
Google Voice widgetservice and updateservice are the only other extras I can think of.
The last speed test I did, I was able to get over 100kb/s down. The odd thing is, my up speed has stayed the same. Before flashing Viper's fix, my down was about half my up. As of last test, my up is about twice my down kb/s (which seems a little more "normal").
Kcarpenter said:
show off.
Some of us have to drive 100 miles to get near 4g.
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yes.. ditto. except, I just have to find a spot and stand very very still.
Well, I hate when I struggle with a problem for a day or two, then post the question, then right after wards I figure it out.
That's what happened though. A little bit after I posted the question I tried Update Profile, and that fixed it. Go figure....
Anyhow, I also installed the data governor fix as recommended and it seems to have upped my speeds a bit. I am now getting over 1.2mbs down, and nearly 800k up. Not too bad for 3G. Haven't tested 4G yet....
Thanks to all for the help.
Vipermuscle83 said:
Download the data governor fix from ViperRom's thread. Follow the directions. Just make sure to take it easy on data. Don't constantly download large files.
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Will this work on a rooted 2.1 rom?
I am on Caulks 1.7.1, and the pic attached will show my speeds tethered to my computer.Can I see some speeds pls? Can anyone offer good or bad on what I am getting.
Glockshooter said:
I am on Caulks 1.7.1, and the pic attached will show my speeds tethered to my computer.Can I see some speeds pls? Can anyone offer good or bad on what I am getting.
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Your speeds are 0kbps? Wow. I get better (or same) speeds on my microwave.
EDIT: I know I'm going to break a number of rules or even get banned, but I cannot resist it.
You are truly a neanderthal.
nabbed said:
Your speeds are 0kbps? Wow. I get better (or same) speeds on my microwave.
EDIT: I know I'm going to break a number of rules or even get banned, but I cannot resist it.
You are truly a neanderthal.
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I am new to this and was under the thought that it was the top number that counted but I am new so..lol
The bottom numbers did bottom out after an hour of surfing but it ran my computer fast.So I dont know.
Glockshooter said:
I am new to this and was under the thought that it was the top number that counted but I am new so..lol
The bottom numbers did bottom out after an hour of surfing but it ran my computer fast.So I dont know.
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You should run a speed test.
A common and reliable one is http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
the top numbers in red and green is the TOTAL amount of download and upload data you have used... the bottom numbers in white are the current speed you are getting (if ur actually downloading something at the moment or surfing the web)
Many variables come into play to determine speeds; network load, signal quality, test server location, other obstructions on the pc (such as firewall), etc..
In general, on 3g, i've seen download speeds up to ~1.5 mbps, with average of 600-800 kbps, upload speeds of 300-800 kbps.
4G, download up to 6 mbps, 12 mbps burst with full 4g signal, about 1 mbps upload either way. ymmv
Just did speak easy test from my phone. Got 737kbps download and 372 kbps for upload. These numbers any good??
That seems about normal. Download speeds will go to about 1.7 MBps while upload hovers around 1 MBps.
1.58Mb/s down
.56Mb/s up
Wish I had 4G lol
nabbed said:
Your speeds are 0kbps? Wow. I get better (or same) speeds on my microwave.
EDIT: I know I'm going to break a number of rules or even get banned, but I cannot resist it.
You are truly a neanderthal.
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It may seem like you didn't understand what the screen said, however, when I installed Calkulin's 1.7.1....my speeds dropped to almost zero....basically non-existant. I had to run the new Sprint RUU and email customer service again to do a reset on my phone. Whatever they do, it works! I am now getting 1.5Mbps d/l and about 500kbps up. Something is going on with flashing roms as this never used to happen. Now, it seems to happen all the time. I wish there was more information from others about this or from the DEVS. I am wondering if by tweeking to make it better/faster/smoother....files are being deleted that are intertwined for 3G to work or connect properly.
Also, I am wondering, since in the era of Big Brother, if Sprint knows by reading our systems...if they can monitor and thus limit what is allowed to be used for bandwidth. I ran an app called 3gtest and it showed that all ports were first pretty much allowed except for a few.....then it would show all blocked except for port 22 sh.....just a thought as I know for me, something is borking my 3G and it just started recently after flashing about 100 roms.
As stated in this thread (0 credit to me) for the inspire 4G:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982082
Editing the following build.prop values will increase the data speed:
ro.ril.gprsclass=12
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=14
ro.ril.hsupa.category=7
ro.ril.hsxpa=3
Reboot twice.
Could be only coincidental but I went from D1.4MB/U1mb up to 3.8/1.7 MB up In the same place I always test.
If you try this don't forget to backup (device might not boot/loose connectivity) and write down the original values (I didn't haha), and don't forget also to post your experience. thanks
I'm using Typhoon CM7 2.5.4
Thanks Rob... This is really awesome... Worked great for me.. I went form around 1.5DL to 3.5DL
will this work for the hd2 or is it only for the inspire 4g?
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will this work for the hd2 or is it only for the inspire 4g?
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Seems to work on my Tmo HD2, I'm running CM7.
yea i attempted this.... dkno how much of a difference it made for me, but before i did this i was averaging 2mbps downloads speed and uploading i was averaging 600 to 800kbps ..very consistently
after, im averaging from 1.6mbps upwards to 3.8mbps so it did something i guess but its not very consistent from what ive been seeing on my phone.. but ive only tested it for an hr or so...ill keep testing it for another day or two, go back to my original setup and see if it was a big difference or not.
let me know how it goes with anybody else that has attempted this
Great informations for a newb like me. Thanks
So how do we get to the point to change these values?
akapaul26 said:
So how do we get to the point to change these values?
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use root explorer and open up build.prop in /system/
okay so i was taking a look on the link for inspire 4g post 3 and the guy provides great info -links- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11884971&postcount=3
Should we adjust the values for our non hspda+ device? the values oy 1st post(inspire 4g) did the trick for me. but probably we should adjust them to our hd2
robrob777 said:
As stated in this thread (0 credit to me) for the inspire 4G:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982082
Editing the following build.prop values will increase the data speed:
ro.ril.gprsclass=12
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=14
ro.ril.hsupa.category=7
ro.ril.hsxpa=3
Reboot twice.
Could be only coincidental but I went from D1.4MB/U1mb up to 3.8/1.7 MB up In the same place I always test.
If you try this don't forget to backup (device might not boot/loose connectivity) and write down the original values (I didn't haha), and don't forget also to post your experience. thanks
I'm using Typhoon CM7 2.5.4
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Tried that my download speed remains on 44-45 kb/s no matter what ...
i'm on T-Mobile uk, checked apn settings and they're fine ...
someone please help ...
raziel123 said:
Tried that my download speed remains on 44-45 kb/s no matter what ...
i'm on T-Mobile uk, checked apn settings and they're fine ...
someone please help ...
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I've posted about this on your own thead, take a look see
johnerz said:
I've posted about this on your own thead, take a look see
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thanks mate, i'll have a look
regards
Confirm improvement on HD2 CoreDroid DHD V1.5
Having now D3.5 U1.4
no good for me
I've lost the GPRS data connection after mod. And I need it cos in area where i live is not a good 3G/HSDPA coverage so most of the time I'm on GPRS.
So moding back to the original settings
thnx
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HD2 class should dictate the build prop config. Speed tests have far too many variables to be reliable.
Gprs 12
Hspda 8
Hsupa 5
Hsxpa 2
Don't shoot me if I got the abbrevs wrong.
I get 3-4mb down 1.2-1.6 up connecting to servers 4000 miles away.
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Confirmed as working. On NexusHD2, I had to add the HSPDA and HSUPA lines, but all works as advertised after rebooting.
NOT WORKING FOR MY HD 2.
GPRS - 12
HSUPA - 10
HSDPA - 10
HSXPA - 2
That's my setting. The 12/8/5/2 or 12/14/7/3 just dont work for me and I've actually gotten worse data speed. I think it's location/cell tower/carrier dependent, so it might not yield the best result for all.
raziel123 said:
Tried that my download speed remains on 44-45 kb/s no matter what ...
i'm on T-Mobile uk, checked apn settings and they're fine ...
someone please help ...
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did you get the settings sorted... on tmobile uk. im in the same boat pal..
hope you can help
Does anyone keep getting 3g and hspa in and out on cm7 if so how do I correct this
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The phone stays on 3g until data is used.
It may not always show H.. but still has the same speeds.
Aosp Roms have slower data rates than stock.
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Ooo ok makes sense
camalus said:
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The phone stays on 3g until data is used.
It may not always show H.. but still has the same speeds.
Aosp Roms have slower data rates than stock.
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I used the CM status bar widgits and set it to 3G only(this includes 4G)
Battery life seems imoroved as well....but i am using "powersave" governor and underclock (MIN368/MAX1068)....lasts 25% longer
I'm kinda new to all this so i might be wrong. I've been having this same issue before i even rooted my phone. I'm using cm7 rc 4 right now and having the same in and out of 3g/4g problem. When i was on stock i called tmobile's android department to complain about this cuz when the 3g and h kept going in and out i couldn't use internet at all. They told me to switch to 3g only for awhile instead of keeping the data setting at auto. I'm still looking for a solution to this cuz right now on 4g my speed is less than 2mbps. i have the speed test to prove. cm7 doesn't have an option to set to 3g only! so i'm pretty much f*ed unless someone has a solution. P.S. i'm not throttled ive use 1.5 gb this month.
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I'm kinda new to all this so i might be wrong. I've been having this same issue before i even rooted my phone. I'm using cm7 rc 4 right now and having the same in and out of 3g/4g problem. When i was on stock i called tmobile's android department to complain about this cuz when the 3g and h kept going in and out i couldn't use internet at all. They told me to switch to 3g only for awhile instead of keeping the data setting at auto. I'm still looking for a solution to this cuz right now on 4g my speed is less than 2mbps. i have the speed test to prove. cm7 doesn't have an option to set to 3g only! so i'm pretty much f*ed unless someone has a solution. P.S. i'm not throttled ive use 1.5 gb this month.
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cm7 does have 3G only option....
You must add the status bar widget to access it
are u sure cm7 rc4 has access to it? or are you talking about a different build? And I don't understand what you mean by status bar widget. Are you talking about the power control widget that comes with cm7?
Yeah..i mean notification power widget
Menu >> settings >> cyanogenmod settings >> interface >> notification power widget >> widget buttons >>toggle 2g/3g
After adding this you must scroll down to "network modes" and select one of the "3G only" modes