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this is my first week using tmobile in the US with the nexus one.
I am not able to get download speeds more than 800kbps. it does not matter how good the reception is.
I have tried in various places in north CA and in cleveland OH.
I think that such speeds are pretty bad for 3g. with at&t I used to 2-3mbps at times.
my friend with the verizon droid is seeing 1.5mbps-2.5mbps download speed .
what are other users on tmobile are seeing?
seems like tmobile is rate limiting the speeds or their network is just really bad.
How are u measuring the speed? I use the speed test app and it used to have a server close by in San Jose (65 mi) now I have to use a server in new Mexico and I'm in CA so that makes it seem slower too
There are two apps in the market i test with: speedtest.net and extreme speed test.
I also checked with the laptop tethered to the phone. same pathetic speeds. i can hardly call it 3g comparing to the competitors.
Is it the phone or is it tmobiles network?
clubtech said:
There are two apps in the market i test with: speedtest.net and extreme speed test.
I also checked with the laptop tethered to the phone. same pathetic speeds. i can hardly call it 3g comparing to the competitors.
Is it the phone or is it tmobiles network?
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i just got 2MB/s up and 400 kb/s down
WOW thats whats im talking about best ive ever seen
still waiting for those 6mb/s up and 1mb/s down (a.k.a. my cable high speed enternet at home)
I have never seen verizon that fast in my area, generally 500 kbits to 1mbits but I would say that you are getting the norm for tmo as mine have never reached 1 mbit but can go past 10 mbit on wifi.
BGR did a test a while back although not scientific agrees with the tests I have done in my area.
BGR Carrier Wars
Average Download Speed
1. Sprint: 1361kbs
2. AT&T: 933kbps
3. T-Mobile: 786kbps
4. Verizon: 701kbps
Average Upload Speed
1. Verizon: 322kbps
2. Sprint: 267kbps
3. AT&T: 180kbps
4. T-Mobile: 177kbps
Try this speed test....
I usually see 1000 - 1200 kbps but quite often see 1700 - 2000 kbps using the speedtest.net app in the android market. Something to remember, your 3G connection is initially UMTS and will switch to HSDPA on demand and when available. You may notice that your first test will show a ping of ~300ms and speeds of 500 - 700 kbps (UMTS), but if you hit "test again" immediately after the first test completes you should see a ping of about ~175ms and approximately double the speed (HSDPA). I've noticed that the default server (closest server according to the speedtest.net app) is usually slow and doesn't give me proper results. I've had very good luck using the Chicago server. Try using the Chicago server and run back-to-back tests, let us know if your results change.
I would agree T-Mobile's 3G is crap. Using a Rogers G1 on AT&T using speedtest.net app, I was seeing over 2Mbit down and over 800kbit up consistently.
T-Mobile's so called "7.2 Mbit upgrade" is a joke. Kind of like their coverage maps. I want to like them, but at least in my area, AT&T obliterates them. It's too big of a different for me. If an AT&T 3G compatible nexus one is released, I will have to get one. I could probably live with the slower speeds if the coverage wasn't so spotty.
Your move T-Immobile.
-James
jmacdonald801 said:
I would agree T-Mobile's 3G is crap. Using a Rogers G1 on AT&T using speedtest.net app, I was seeing over 2Mbit down and over 800kbit up consistently.
T-Mobile's so called "7.2 Mbit upgrade" is a joke. Kind of like their coverage maps. I want to like them, but at least in my area, AT&T obliterates them. It's too big of a different for me. If an AT&T 3G compatible nexus one is released, I will have to get one. I could probably live with the slower speeds if the coverage wasn't so spotty.
Your move T-Immobile.
-James
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As a former T-Mo Wireless Engineer Intern, I can tell you that there is only a very very small roll out on 7.2 right now. They are testing the network before they enable more circuits. The original plan when I worked there was for a gradual 2 city per month rollout. Then slowly build the network to cope with added traffic. Its suppose to be a gradual process that will also involve using old equipment and expanding current 3g service. The high speed roll out was priority one, then is service expansion. Also contracts were involved last I saw that would expand coverage 2-fold, but negotiations for tower rights were falling through, so I don't know where thats going.
hamshu said:
As a former T-Mo Wireless Engineer Intern, I can tell you that there is only a very very small roll out on 7.2 right now. They are testing the network before they enable more circuits. The original plan when I worked there was for a gradual 2 city per month rollout. Then slowly build the network to cope with added traffic. Its suppose to be a gradual process that will also involve using old equipment and expanding current 3g service. The high speed roll out was priority one, then is service expansion. Also contracts were involved last I saw that would expand coverage 2-fold, but negotiations for tower rights were falling through, so I don't know where thats going.
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Wow, talk about an honest answer. If I could just get coverage at my house, I could support team Magenta
-James
There is an issue with 3g on the nexus that has been commented on a number of times, and that is the flapping of UMTS and HSDPA. (not to be confused with those flapping between 2g and 3g). With my G1 I was able to get speeds as high as 3Mbit, but I too have only seen 800Kbit max on my nexus and I believe its due to this constant flapping of 3g technologies.
Today is my first day on tmobile with the N1, I've been running on Edge ATT.
I was worried about switching over because my gf has had tmobile and doesn't have great service at our house.
I was afraid mine would be worse with the 3g issues the N1 has been having but it appears to be almost identical to hers.
in my living room we get 1-2 bars 3g and I see test speeds of 50-300 down and 950-1250 up.
I go to my office right above the living room and get 3 bars and 700-900 down speeds with 700-900 up speeds.
No stoked about it but I havnt had any signal swapping issues so I'm going to use it for GPS to test out now and see how it does. GPS and mapping even on edge with ATT was super fast so I have high hopes.
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There is an issue with 3g on the nexus that has been commented on a number of times, and that is the flapping of UMTS and HSDPA. (not to be confused with those flapping between 2g and 3g). With my G1 I was able to get speeds as high as 3Mbit, but I too have only seen 800Kbit max on my nexus and I believe its due to this constant flapping of 3g technologies.
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So are you saying that if you pop in the SIM card from the N1 to the G1 in the same place you get 3Mbps vs. 800Kbps on the N1?
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So are you saying that if you pop in the SIM card from the N1 to the G1 in the same place you get 3Mbps vs. 800Kbps on the N1?
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Correct, I get full signal at my work (-63dBm 25asu). The G1 didn't skip around and stuck firmly to UMTS, and I was getting much better rates with it. My N1 however maxes out at no more than 800.
@jmcdonald what are you agreeing with LOL were talking about decent speeds then you say you agree with the low speeds??? LOL
Anyway I don't have 3g flopping problems neither did I on my g1
I am seeing speeds in most cases upward of 2.2 mbps... and am even averaging over 1mbps in upload speeds which is pretty good when I have full 3g reception in the Northern NJ area.
I get anywhere from 2.0 - 3.5Mbps down on average, and I have seen up to 4.5Mbps down on occasion. Up is always around 1 - 1.3Mbps.
However, I'm in Philadelphia, and we have HSPA+
Wow, I don't know how you guys are getting DL speeds upwards of 1.5mbps! Here in San Diego, the most I've seen anyone on ATT get is around 1.2mbps, and 1.1 on Sprint. Tmo is usually anywhere from 700-1mbps with some spikes over that now and then.
My G1 and N1 get the same speed range.
I'm in Maryland, just outside of D.C. I also just switched from AT&T to T-Mobile (yesterday actually). I'm also getting DL speeds of like 700-800 kbps. Hope it will someday be a little faster than that.
download - 137kbps
upload - 217kbps
From all the repots in this post it seems that tmob is just slower in some parts of the country and faster in others.
I hope they are planning on catching as 700-800kbps is a joke.
While I know similar stuff has been posted many times, I just have a question. When I had a Palm Pre and using homebrew I remember this unthrottle patch that basically made your Pre go faster than the horrendous 64kilobytes a sec. So does anyone know if the 4G is being throttled? My pre would get almost 2mbps using speedtest while my evo gets .3mbps. Now while using Pdanet I get .85mbps at the most. I haven't downloaded anything but my Pre at the fastest was downloading files at almost 300kilobytes a second. Thanks for any help
My best 3g test on my EVO was 1.8mb down and 566kb up.
You honestly can't really get a "consistant" speed out of 3g. 3g works in bursts, and when you wifi tether or tether in general you lose speed, for the most accurate speeds run a speed test on the phone via the market apps. Also the more people on a 3g network the crappier it is, CDMA also has slower 3g speeds since voice and data are on the same band. 4g is being throttled to 6mbps at the moment because sprint doesn't want to overload the network until its fully tested under heavy end user use. (maybe AT&T shoulda done this becasue their 3g network is crashing and burning horribly).
Thanks. I never thought of looking in the market for speedtest apps.
best here in NJ was 2.2 down about 800 up
I've never seen my EVO pass 1.2 - my Touch Pro 2 consistently hits 2+
Well the fastest I've seen was 310kb/s down 109kb/s up after using the app. I prefer using kb/s since thats what it shows when I download stuff. I guess this is faster than my Pre and definitely faster than my crappy dsl
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Well the fastest I've seen was 310kb/s down 109kb/s up after using the app. I prefer using kb/s since thats what it shows when I download stuff. I guess this is faster than my Pre and definitely faster than my crappy dsl
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Faster than your DSL? wow your DSL should at least be equal. Probably at the end of the distance to the Telco or closest Router or VRack. Should have your DSL Co check your line.
eck0728 said:
You honestly can't really get a "consistant" speed out of 3g. 3g works in bursts, and when you wifi tether or tether in general you lose speed, for the most accurate speeds run a speed test on the phone via the market apps. Also the more people on a 3g network the crappier it is, CDMA also has slower 3g speeds since voice and data are on the same band. 4g is being throttled to 6mbps at the moment because sprint doesn't want to overload the network until its fully tested under heavy end user use. (maybe AT&T shoulda done this becasue their 3g network is crashing and burning horribly).
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Where do you have the source for 4G being throttled to 6? I heard 10/1.
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Faster than your DSL? wow your DSL should at least be equal. Probably at the end of the distance to the Telco or closest Router or VRack. Should have your DSL Co check your line.
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Its what Verizon offers in my area. I get 890 or something kbps down its either that or 1.6mbps which with a little more money I could get more with comcast. We need more internet competition or for companies to step up their game because comcast is fast but throttling and the whole area getting a set pool of bandwidth vs slow but always the same speeds sucks
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Where do you have the source for 4G being throttled to 6? I heard 10/1.
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I've heard the same thing around the time the Evo was announced and Wimax started to expand
Is anybody experiencing pathetic download speeds on 4g? I've been getting 128 kbps down the past two days (prior to this speeds were excellent). Upload speeds are good, so i'm inclined to think that this is a local issue? Any ideas?
I'm using AvaV9 with the latest radios.
sfasu77 said:
Is anybody experiencing pathetic download speeds on 4g? I've been getting 128 kbps down the past two days (prior to this speeds were excellent). Upload speeds are good, so i'm inclined to think that this is a local issue? Any ideas?
I'm using AvaV9 with the latest radios.
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Well I dont turn on 4g often but yes very slow and not reliable in North Richland Hills....I am normally in Dallas during the day where i only max between 3-5mps..At night i connect to wifi....My opinion, it waste battery and only good if your outside in our area/ regular 3g is always reliable 512kbps up and down
my friend is getting about 10mb/sec.
Although clear has been acting up. Been extremely slow the past week.
I am in slc utah but have been having the same issues. 4G download speeds are very slow off and on but upload speeds are still at standard 1 mb. I'm still trying to figure this one out....
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I am in slc utah but have been having the same issues. 4G download speeds are very slow off and on but upload speeds are still at standard 1 mb. I'm still trying to figure this one out....
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been seeing the same down in san antonio tx the past couple weeks.
Yeah here in Orlando, I was avg 3-5 mbps download, now I'm only getting 1 mbps download
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shoo, in Richardson (just a little outside of Dallas) I get 2 mb down at home but 10 mb down at my school..
Edit: I take that back, I tested that like a couple of months ago, after posting that comment I went back and tested my 4G at my school...I was gettin a little under 100kb down and 3mb up. That dont make no sense.
Edit2: Ok, what the hell goin on here? I get home where I have 4g, but no bars, and Im pulling 1mb down...haha this 4g is playing with my emotions!
I am seeing the same thing in Frisco, Dallas, Plano and Carrollton although... It is VERY hit and miss. From my office I typically get 3-5mbps, it seems that here recently something has happened and there are times when I get less than 100k. Are any of you guys using an EVO? I've also noticed that with the 4G turned on the CPU goes to 100% sometimes (haven't been able to replicate with 4G off.)
Boss has EVO, wife has EVO and we all see the exact same thing...
Same thing happening here in vegas 500 down and 1 or more up
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In irving I was getting 68k earlier today
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I'm in the Mid-Cities area, Euless to be more specific. I just got 6mb down and almost 1mb up. Maybe it was being worked on or something today. Anyone want to verify that it's good again?
In Fremont, near SF, I've never had a problem with my 4g. Even with just 0-1bar of 4g, it's always been solid and consistent, around 8mbps down
Yea, I had a peice of paper on my door this morning saying 4g tour is up. So I decided to try 4g again and now on I'm getting 5mbps down and 2 up. Yesterday I posted up above in this thread with horrible speed. North Richland Hills/ Ft worth
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damn im gladd finally saw this ive been trippin thought i jacked my wimax yes two days ive heatrd of a down load cap coming but lower than three g and i was getting 12m day before im calling in morn i got another bone to pick see what gifts a little *****in gets post info this thread
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Anybody consider the elevated solar activity since sunday as a possible cause of the current issues? I know my cable has been pixelating, and my home internet has been intermittant. Just something to think about.
Also I have never seen speeds as fast as you guys get on my EVO. Of course I run CM6 so I only get 3g but I have never had speeds above 1mbps usually alot less. Oh and I'm in the North Fort Worth/North Richland Hills/Haltom City area.
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My 4g speeds are back to normal.
Have been getting terrible speeds all week long in Downtown Dallas. Both 4g and 3G have been very slow.
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my 4g speed hits 10-11mb/s on average right here in fort worth, right around the 820/35 area and pretty much up and down 820, all the way to jackborrow (sp)?
haven't tried downtown area yet but ill test it out and let ya know
Mine is very hit and miss the last few days. I will have periods of good speed, then it slows to a crawl. With tethered downloading I especially notice an initial burst of speed, then at times it slows to 10kb/sec =(.
Well i just found this snippet from some article
Clearwire told Electronista:
Throtting is based on the current utilization for each cell tower, and many low-use towers do not throttle speeds at all. For high-use towers, throttling occurs during peak-use times.
A customer’s maximum speed is based on the number of gigabytes of data transferred in the past seven days and the download speeds for the past 15 minutes. Speeds are recalculated every 15 minutes, at which point a throttled customer will be bumped up to a higher speed. Rather than implementing one speed for throttling, the calculations will move customers between 48 different speed brackets.
The worst offenders using peer-to-peer software on Clearwire’s network may face repeated throttling.
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Seems to fit my symptoms like a glove. Bums me the **** out too, because when im throttled I might as well be on dial up.
A month ago, the fasted I could download a file was roughly 750 kb/s. Today, I his 1.2MB and stayed there for a little bit. That's almost a 500kb/s increase.
We've had 2 PRL updates since I last tried and the rumor that Sprint has been beefing up its 4g network.
I can notice it, anyone else?
i usually get 5-8mbps since it first started showing up
I can definitely agree!
PRL updates have NOTHING to do with speeds ON the sprint network. They only tell the phone what towers to roam on when roaming, thats it.
As far as 4g speeds in Columbus, the last 3 times I was there for work, I could easily pull in 6mbps down, and about 3mbps up. Although the signal strength was very spotty though.
What's your 3g speeds like if your 4g is that slow? I average 1.2 on my 3g
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wish i had 4g .... hell wish i had good 3g speeds
Has anybody else seen faster speeds, especially download, on their Atrix over the last few days Using speediest, I'm now getting constistenly over 2.5mbps (3031, 2650 and 3949 today) down and 200+ up where I was consistently getting 1200-1300 down and 125-150 up since I got the unit. Didn't know if it was a fluke for me or At&T might have done something over the weekend in the NY area to improve speed. System show HSDPA and I have the most recent OTA upgrade
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Has anybody else seen faster speeds, especially download, on their Atrix over the last few days Using speediest, I'm now getting constistenly over 2.5mbps (3031, 2650 and 3949 today) down and 200+ up where I was consistently getting 1200-1300 down and 125-150 up since I got the unit. Didn't know if it was a fluke for me or At&T might have done something over the weekend in the NY area to improve speed. System show HSDPA and I have the most recent OTA upgrade
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Apparently in some markets instead of just turning it all on at once they're slowly rolling out speed increases up to HSPA+ standards. I think Chicago people have said they're seeing the same.
Those are 3G speeds not even half of what hspa+ is capable of. I got those speeds on my LG Quantum that is a strickly 3G device.
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speeds have been faster in my area all around and that has caused me to almost blow through my cap
Los Angeles CA 90016 - Average Download = 1.7mbps / upload = 250kbps
Phoenix is getting no love from AT&T. HSPA+ is here in name only and still crippled for non-Apple devices.
My 2year old iPhone 3GS gets faster upload and download speeds than my Atrix.
I live in Pittsburgh and my speeds vary yesterday i got 3529kb dl and 392kb up and today im getting 1029kb dl and 275kb up maybe because of the weather?