So I realize this is a bit stupid being I'm posting it in the G2 forums so it might be a bit biased and the fact that the G2 is a native android phone and the hd2 isn't. The only thing is, I'm on T-mobile and theres no native 4.3 inch android phone YET. I know the G2 has a better processor in it if i'm not mistaken, but I've been wanting a 4.3 inch phone for awhile. I also noticed that the HD2 has more development behind it in terms of roms compared to the G2 and I was wondering why exactly that was? The only thing I like about the G2 is the better specs and the keyboard. If someone can help steer me in the right direction, i'd appreciate it!
Thanks!
If i'm not mistaken- g2 has cpu of 800mhz against 1000mhz in hd2.
Well, development of hd2 is widely spread because it is winmo based device, which allowed the developers a freedome for developing. There are about 7 OS which loaded through haret(winmo emulator).
I was a user of hd2 and changed it to g2 and i can't say which is better, i like both of them)
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If i'm not mistaken- g2 has cpu of 800mhz against 1000mhz in hd2.
Well, development of hd2 is widely spread because it is winmo based device, which allowed the developers a freedome for developing. There are about 7 OS which loaded through haret(winmo emulator).
I was a user of hd2 and changed it to g2 and i can't say which is better, i like both of them)
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Yeah but the gpu in the G2 is better than the hd2. I was just wondering what everyone else thought and others opinions before i make my decision
Its also New generation vs old generation... The G2 Is faster and much more overclockable
Depends what you want to do really The only like OS you will be getting for now on your G2 is android whereas the HD2 can Daul boot WinMo 6. Windows Phone 7. Ubuntu. Android... and someother versions of linux.... I think meego too
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If i'm not mistaken- g2 has cpu of 800mhz against 1000mhz in hd2.
Well, development of hd2 is widely spread because it is winmo based device, which allowed the developers a freedome for developing. There are about 7 OS which loaded through haret(winmo emulator).
I was a user of hd2 and changed it to g2 and i can't say which is better, i like both of them)
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CPU clock doesn't come close to telling the whole story. The CPU on the Vision is a newer generation of Snapdragon than the one on the HD2. Different fabrication process and newer GPU. Even though the CPU on the Vision is clocked at 800 Mhz, it outbenches all the 1GHz "older" gen Snapdragon phones, such the Nexus One (same proc as the HD2) and EVO 4G, as well as other proc types, like the Galaxy S. I think only the Desire HD (same generation of CPU as the Vision, but at 1 GHz) and newer phones (Atrix, Nexus S) have benched faster than the CPU on the Vision.
The HD2 has been around a long time, almost a year and a half (ancient in smartphone terms). That is another part of the reason why there are more ROMs for the HD2. Also, Windows Mobile is older, and has had more development. WM is also outdated trash. At this point, I would not use my money on a phone whose native OS is so far behind the alternatives. Which brings us to another reason there are so many ROMs on the HD2. With WM as the native OS, its no surprise that people have been scrambling to put almost anything else on the phone besides the stock ROM. But that is a completely biased opinion, as I have no personal experience with the HD2. But I do own a Touch Pro 2, which I used for a year, and needed to have a custom ROM just to be usable. The TP2 has lower specs than the HD2 for sure, but ditching WM nightmare for Android has been unbelievable, and I wouldn't go back if you paid me. Saying the ability to dual boot WM is not a "pro" by any stretch of the imagination, IMO.
The stock ROM on the G2/Desire Z is actually pretty darned good. That's part of the reason why there has not been as much development on the Vision. It just works as is. Also, it seems that developers were holding back a bit, since Gingerbread came out just a couple months after the phone was released. Now that Gingerbread is stable via CM7, developers have been building on that and the ROM development has really started hitting critical mass. Just in the past couple weeks there has been something like 5 (or more) new ROM series hitting the Vision, with more likely on the way.
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CPU clock doesn't come close to telling the whole story. The CPU on the Vision is a newer generation of Snapdragon than the one on the HD2. Different fabrication process and newer GPU. Even though the CPU on the Vision is clocked at 800 Mhz, it outbenches all the 1GHz "older" gen Snapdragon phones, such the Nexus One (same proc as the HD2) and EVO 4G, as well as other proc types, like the Galaxy S. I think only the Desire HD (same generation of CPU as the Vision, but at 1 GHz) and newer phones (Atrix, Nexus S) have benched faster than the CPU on the Vision.
The HD2 has been around a long time, almost a year and a half (ancient in smartphone terms). That is another part of the reason why there are more ROMs for the HD2. Also, Windows Mobile is older, and has had more development. WM is also outdated trash. At this point, I would not use my money on a phone whose native OS is so far behind the alternatives. Which brings us to another reason there are so many ROMs on the HD2. With WM as the native OS, its no surprise that people have been scrambling to put almost anything else on the phone besides the stock ROM. But that is a completely biased opinion, as I have no personal experience with the HD2. But I do own a Touch Pro 2, which I used for a year, and needed to have a custom ROM just to be usable. The TP2 has lower specs than the HD2 for sure, but ditching WM nightmare for Android has been unbelievable, and I wouldn't go back if you paid me. Saying the ability to dual boot WM is not a "pro" by any stretch of the imagination, IMO.
The stock ROM on the G2/Desire Z is actually pretty darned good. That's part of the reason why there has not been as much development on the Vision. It just works as is. Also, it seems that developers were holding back a bit, since Gingerbread came out just a couple months after the phone was released. Now that Gingerbread is stable via CM7, developers have been building on that and the ROM development has really started hitting critical mass. Just in the past couple weeks there has been something like 5 (or more) new ROM series hitting the Vision, with more likely on the way.
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but there are some programs on winmo wich do not have analogue on android or ios- what means for some people dual boot is an argumen "for"
I had a HD2 for a while and I've just got a Z. I've enjoyed using both but I definitely rather the Z. Tbh all the development on the HD2 is for a reason. They're all trying to get the most stable Android ROM out. I found usually all of the roms to be very similar in speeds and looks etc.
Even the fastest ROMs I didn't find as fast as my Z and Istill have yet to root it and OC and flash CM7 and the like.
The HD2 does have the ability to boot multiple OS's but if you do that I find it to be even slower as one needs to be booted via the SD card and unless you have a good class 10 card it won't be fast. I also found over time the ROM's on my HD2 were getting more and more sluggish which lead me to keep having to flash roms.
The added bonus of the Z is ofcourse the keyboard.
I don't even notice the difference in screen size. I enjoy the 3.7 more aswell because its more comfortable to hold in hand and you can touch everywhere on the screen without having to reposition your hand.
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every day i find people who switched from hd2 to desire z
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every day i find people who switched from hd2 to desire z
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The keyboard is just so nice to have after using a touch screen for so long.
I have and regularly use both hd2 and the g2. The g2 is far more powerful cpu and gpu wise plus its more stable since it is an android native device. The HD2 is a great phone too. It has an awesome screen, multiple OS's and much more development (as its a much older device). Its lacks the power of the g2/vision but is still an awesome device.
Its all a matter of price and personal preferance.
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The keyboard is just so nice to have after using a touch screen for so long.
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I have both HD2 and a G2. One difference is the touchscreen is better in the G2, both better multitouch and better responsiveness.
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I have both HD2 and a G2. One difference is the touchscreen is better in the G2, both better multitouch and better responsiveness.
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If you like the keypad,then g2.
I had the hd2 since july 10 ..in that time frame the phone was replaced a total of 11 times..i had flashed android on it but somethings didnt work..but it was ok running android..it would be great if android came stock on it.as for the g2 i finally got t-mobile to upgrade me for free to the g2..i love it!!it is running stock rom 2.2 and will be getting update to 2.3..very fast and stable..has wifi hotspot,tethering and wifi calling..
Get the g2 .it is so worth it:d
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Apologies for slightly off-topic...
I've been a WinMo follower for years, and never switched off to iPhone. I tried Nexus One when it just came out, but that lasted 3 days - mostly because of its (sense-less) UI. In the last two weeks I've been playing with Android on my HD2, and have to admit I've been converted! This is a great blend of the smooth and fluid UI of an OS that is built for mobile to begin with, and the flexibility of an open development platform, which resulted in many great apps.
In any case, I wasn't exactly happy with my T-Mobile service, which tends to be somewhat spotty for me in terms of 3G coverage (I'm in Seattle), so I decided to check out the other major networks and see if I would find another Android phone that would be appealing to me. I wanted a fast one from HTC - essentially, as close or better than HD2.
Sprint EVO would have been nice, but it's too thick. End of story. Doesn't pass the pocket test.
I thought that Verizon's Incredible would be just what I wanted with its smaller form factor and similar specs. And that was a bit of a disappointment to be honest. It actually felt too small!
A visit to AT&T store wasn't much better. Aria is underpowered, and Xperia looks nice, but Android 1.6 is a joke and makes it very sluggish, aside from the dated UI they've put on it.
Finally, a stop at T-Mobile, where the only decent one is the Galaxy. Similar specs, but no Sense. Felt somewhat slower, but perhaps the closest contender to HD2 with Android on top of WinMo.
So I have to say, there is no better hardware to run Froyo on the US market today. Or am I missing anything?
P.S. I don't think there's anything outside of the US either. Desire HD is promising to be amazing though.
Droid X, Droid 2? EVO?
although i'd pick htc over samsung, moto, etc., i'd say go check out the galaxy s line. those are the big time powerhouses right now. htc's got the incredible, evo, hd2, n1, etc. for not, so if none of those are floating your boat, wait a bit until the htc dual core monsters get released.
I agree with the dude above. As far as I know, the new Samsung is the highest spec'd t-mob android phone at the moment but I just don't want to mess around with Samsung. Desire was supposed to be an amazing phone but for some reason w/ similar hardware its benchmarks such. HTC is just spewing out phones so its hard to keep track. Unfortunately, the 1ghz processors on the Droids outperform the HD2, esp. in regards to 3d performance. So yeah, fingers crossed for dual core snapdragon (which has been around for a while actually in some form).
Its sort of odd that you find the hd2 acceptable and not the evo. I played with my friends evo and its the most responsive android phone i've seen. I played with an original Droid and hated it for a lot of reasons besides performance. I don't know how reliable this is, but the benchmarks I ran on mattc's 1.5 beat out every phone besides droid (fairly sure the first droid, EVO was not included in list). Darkstone's page has his build beating out every phone except for Nexus with 2.2. Although its looking like the hd2 is a serious contender, its def not at the top. If I had the choice, I would prob get a native android phone.
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I agree with the dude above. As far as I know, the new Samsung is the highest spec'd t-mob android phone at the moment but I just don't want to mess around with Samsung. Desire was supposed to be an amazing phone but for some reason w/ similar hardware its benchmarks such. HTC is just spewing out phones so its hard to keep track. Unfortunately, the 1ghz processors on the Droids outperform the HD2, esp. in regards to 3d performance. So yeah, fingers crossed for dual core snapdragon (which has been around for a while actually in some form).
Its sort of odd that you find the hd2 acceptable and not the evo. I played with my friends evo and its the most responsive android phone i've seen. I played with an original Droid and hated it for a lot of reasons besides performance. I don't know how reliable this is, but the benchmarks I ran on mattc's 1.5 beat out every phone besides droid (fairly sure the first droid, EVO was not included in list). Darkstone's page has his build beating out every phone except for Nexus with 2.2. Although its looking like the hd2 is a serious contender, its def not at the top. If I had the choice, I would prob get a native android phone.
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the processors dont out perform the snapdragon the gpus do
Eco is indeed nice except for a couple of things: it's thick and it has WiMax, which is sunsetting in favor of LTE.
Samsung uses Hummingbird and not Snapdragon - I assume those are similar in performance?
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Droid X, Droid 2? EVO?
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X is way too big, Droid 2 isn't much different from the original Droid - both lack the polish of HTC Sense and additional software. EVO is perfect, but too thick.
What is with the constant need to make these threads comparing the HD2 and other Android devices? In fact, why is there the need to compare any device with similar hardware specs? They all have obvious pros and cons.
The HD2 does have its benefits... for one there is no real 4.3" Android device on GSM, if you're outside the US you can't buy either the EVO or the Droid X so Android on the HD2 is your best best for a big screen Android (discounting the Dell Streak, way too big).
Even if you can purchase the EVO or the Droid X the HD2 still has something going for it. There are a few 4.3" phones on the market now but the HD2 is by far the sexiest and least ridiculous looking, even compared to its brother the EVO the HD2 is noticeably less bulky looking and more svelte.
But then again the EVO 4G and Droid X both have specs the HD2 doesn't, like a slightly higher resolution screen on the Droid X and 4G/HDMI out on the EVO 4G. They also both run Android natively which the HD2 doesn't. I have every confidence in the guys working on Android for the HD2 but I think being realistic the HD2 can come very close but not be perfect at running Android because it wasn't designed for it initially.
So yeah, I don't see the need to get all fanboy-ish and start shouting how awesome the HD2 is. It depends on the situation... I don't live in the US so I didn't have access to the other big screen Android devices, and I also wasn't sure I would love Android or just like it so I wanted the ability to revert back to WM if I wanted to. That coupled with the cheap price of the HD2 compared to other Snapdragon devices running Android natively made the HD2 the best choice for me.
But I'm not going to claim the HD2 is perfect at running Android or even the best of all the current phones... they all have pros and cons. If the HD2 had native Android with every last function working then I probably would say it was the perfect Android device. Some have slightly higher specs and some have fancy screen technologies the HD2 misses out on, but I really love the 4.3" screen and the HD2 seems like the nicest hardware package offering that size screen.
Hi dear, I'm a possible buyer of T-Mobile HTC HD2 since I heard T-Mobile one is faster than International one in terms of a size of rom and ram memory.
By the way, I'm still wondering if HD2 works perfectly and smoothly with the custom roms in this forum like true android phones(galaxy s, desire, evo etc...)
I'm currently using galaxy s but I'm planning to sell it.
Is it good decision to get hd2 instead of galaxy s?
Please give me any advice...
I like to handle or play with the phone
I think I will not be bored with hd2 that's why I try to sell Galaxy s and get hd2 although galaxy s is newer and android based phone.
Many questions are here! Please come and give me the answer.
Galaxy S vs HD2... is a close tossup.
I'd only do it if you 1) were extremely tech savvy... if you aren't to the point where compiling your own kernel object doesn't seem like like an insurmountable hurdle, the HD2 will be painful for you. 2) really want the extra screen size and 3) need the difference in money that you'd net from selling the galaxy s properly.
Right now, unless you are lucky enough to have an sd card that doesnt cause sleep of death issues (which, I've noticed, is more likely amongst those using non-SDHC cards), the phone is 'not ready for prime-time' imo. Maybe NAND will change that, maybe not.
I went from a Cliq to the HD2, and do not regret the decision at all, even though I have half the storage space that I had before, as I am forced to use a 2gb card to avoid SOD. But the Cliq was a really terrible phone, and I've heard nothing but good things about the Galaxy S.
just my 2 cents.
I'm not extremely tech savvy, but number 2) and 3) are suitable for me. I want hd2 since it has better design and big screen(even though the resolution and the color expression are not as fantastic as galaxy s.)
I already ordered T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 16 gb sd memory card. Is it okay to use?
It's sandisk. it is good?
I'd go with an actual Android as oppose to and HD2, unless price is a concern. A port is a port after all...
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Better. I swear. Better.
My cousin that's staying with me has the Vibrant, and I swear, it isn't as good as the HD2.
Advantages of the Vibrant over the HD2:
-HD video recording
-AMOLED screen
-Better battery life
-1Ghz A4 Cortex Hummingbird CPU
Yup. That's all I can think of.
Advantages of HD2 over Vibrant (in my opinion):
-Heavier, more solid feeling (not just plastic)
-Larger screen (4.3" vs 4.0")
-Glass screen, nearly unscratchable.
-Flexibility (many different Android builds)
-Froyo (U.S. Vibrants are stuck with Eclair until the update rolls out later this month)
-Gingerbread (we will probably have it on before the Vibrant, if it gets it at all)
-Faster (unless you root the Vibrant and change the file system, which my cousin does not want to do)
I can probably go on and on, and I also wasn't comparing to other smartphones on the market as I haven't used them much.
Anyway, most of the HD2's advantages are due to the developers here. It can't get any better than XDA.
(it is my opinion stated above, some people might think differently)
Oh, how come?
I read one comment that actually hd2 is faster than actual android phones.
I am a Samsung Vibrant user and picked up a HD2 to tinker on with Android since updates for the samsung are painfully slow for me coming from a Nexus.
I am now in love with the HD2 and use it daily running android. My Vibrant is sitting on the counter with a dead battery collecting dust. If you love to tinker and like to try a nice huge variety of roms you will love the HD2.
Dont get me wrong the Samsung is a wonderful phone but the HD2 is a tinkers dream.
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Fantastic!
psykick5 said:
Better. I swear. Better.
My cousin that's staying with me has the Vibrant, and I swear, it isn't as good as the HD2.
Advantages of the Vibrant over the HD2:
-HD video recording
-AMOLED screen
-Better battery life
-1Ghz A4 Cortex Hummingbird CPU
Yup. That's all I can think of.
Advantages of HD2 over Vibrant (in my opinion):
-Heavier, more solid feeling (not just plastic)
-Larger screen (4.3" vs 4.0")
-Glass screen, nearly unscratchable.
-Flexibility (many different Android builds)
-Froyo (U.S. Vibrants are stuck with Eclair until the update rolls out later this month)
-Gingerbread (we will probably have it on before the Vibrant, if it gets it at all)
-Faster (unless you root the Vibrant and change the file system, which my cousin does not want to do)
I can probably go on and on, and I also wasn't comparing to other smartphones on the market as I haven't used them much.
Anyway, most of the HD2's advantages are due to the developers here. It can't get any better than XDA.
(it is my opinion stated above, some people might think differently)
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Haha Great Information psykick5, I must go with HD2 then!
By the way,
What is the most stable combination roms for android, psykick5??
18.4009 said:
I am a Samsung Vibrant user and picked up a HD2 to tinker on with Android since updates for the samsung are painfully slow for me coming from a Nexus.
I am now in love with the HD2 and use it daily running android. My Vibrant is sitting on the counter with a dead battery collecting dust. If you love to tinker and like to try a nice huge variety of roms you will love the HD2.
Dont get me wrong the Samsung is a wonderful phone but the HD2 is a tinkers dream.
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That's what I want to be. Could you give me the best combination for HD2(Most stable and smooth)?
im using elegancia for winmo, froyostone for android
works like a charm with minimal issues..
radio rom 2.14 and 2.15 are most stable with battery usage fixed
there are many other combinations though
enneract said:
I'd only do it if you 1) were extremely tech savvy... if you aren't to the point where compiling your own kernel object doesn't seem like like an insurmountable hurdle, the HD2 will be painful for you. 2) really want the extra screen size and 3) need the difference in money that you'd net from selling the galaxy s properly.
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I disagree that you have to be super duper tech savvy to do this kind of stuff. A little bit of linux background doesn't hurt, but if you're comfortable with with tinkering and willing to learn and mess around some, Android on the HD2 isn't that big of a project. On the other hand, there is a fair amount trial/error and therefore a fair amount of time needs to be invested into getting your perfect Android build.
The hd2 will probably never run android as well as a galaxy s. It will always be a hacked on version of android on the hd2. A rooted galaxy with all the hacks you will find here on xda will make the galaxy run much smoother and better than the hd2. And i'm sure you will get gingerbread rom as quick as the hd2 does here on xda. It may not be official, but neither is any of hd2s builds. If you want to run android full time, stick with a native android phone. If you want to also have winmo on your phone, then the hd2 is a good choice... but don't expect to run android better on a hd2. The galaxy has a better CPU and gpu ... when you root it and apply fixes found here on xda, it will run android better than any current phone out there... except maybe the desire HD.
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I'm using 2.15 ROM with ChunkyDroidROM and random Mdeejay builds.
One thing to remember with an HD2 with Android, if anything goes wrong, don't be angry, it wasn't supposed to have this anyway.
Cheers.
Enjoy the HD2
(above post is quite true, but I enjoy the flexibility. Oh, don't forget WP7 could be in the pipeline )
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Oh, how come?
I read one comment that actually hd2 is faster than actual android phones.
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I wouldn't say faster than all of the Android phones... one of the fastest two maybe - then yea...
Quadrant so far has been the benchmarking tool for lots of phones... Galaxy kills with points over 2000 but that's only it scores high on 3D Open GL which is not utilized by the Android OS at all - therefore, yea - HD2 is one of two fastest Android phones - and it runs it from the SD Card ... I can't wait for NAND version just to get rid of this WinMo junk
Well I sold my galaxy s and bought an hd2 almost brand new and a used psp handheld with the money, I will never look back.
The galaxy s at first I loved that bright vibrant screen and the devices light weight, but soon even both of these points annoyed, the screen brightness could never be adjusted low enough for nighttime reading, the galaxy s had no flash for the camera, which I use a lot on the hd2 also this is such a powerful torch a well, but probably the biggest problem I found with my galaxy s was the unreliable gps and mine was better than some.
With the hd2 you get extreme flexibility the ability to try many many android builds you can mix and match your windows mobile roms with your android builds and play about with all kind of radios, you can try sense builds, standard builds to highly customised builds, one day on the horizon hd2 will get its chance to be a stand along android with the nand development, it might even get windows 7, my preferred choice of build is now mdeejays, evo warm with kernel 7.6, with a few tweaks and set cpui have this running all the time occasionally visiting windows mobile for the odd application that android doesn't have.
A lot of people will give you different combinations that work, it's all a case of "your mileage may vary".
I for instance run Chuckys Tabtastic GTX rom for WinMo and MDeeJey's Froyo HD 3.6 and everything is smooth as butter, so long as you don't mind the camera not working. (That's because the actual rom it's built from doesn't have the camera code available yet, but it will come soonish).
So long as you are willing to do a lot of initial reading and have patience before you start flashing anything you should love the capabilities and flexibility of the HD2. After all, pretty soon you should also be able to run MeeGo on it as well (and who knows, maybe even Windows Phone 7??)
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I'm using 2.15 ROM with ChunkyDroidROM and random Mdeejay builds.
One thing to remember with an HD2 with Android, if anything goes wrong, don't be angry, it wasn't supposed to have this anyway.
Cheers.
Enjoy the HD2
(above post is quite true, but I enjoy the flexibility. Oh, don't forget WP7 could be in the pipeline )
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That's what I expect from HD2.
I know it has more flexible than any other phones.
I bet I would like my HD2 more than galaxy s.
Nothing interest on my galaxy s actually... especially UI... hu
Cool!
THUDUK said:
Well I sold my galaxy s and bought an hd2 almost brand new and a used psp handheld with the money, I will never look back.
The galaxy s at first I loved that bright vibrant screen and the devices light weight, but soon even both of these points annoyed, the screen brightness could never be adjusted low enough for nighttime reading, the galaxy s had no flash for the camera, which I use a lot on the hd2 also this is such a powerful torch a well, but probably the biggest problem I found with my galaxy s was the unreliable gps and mine was better than some.
With the hd2 you get extreme flexibility the ability to try many many android builds you can mix and match your windows mobile roms with your android builds and play about with all kind of radios, you can try sense builds, standard builds to highly customised builds, one day on the horizon hd2 will get its chance to be a stand along android with the nand development, it might even get windows 7, my preferred choice of build is now mdeejays, evo warm with kernel 7.6, with a few tweaks and set cpui have this running all the time occasionally visiting windows mobile for the odd application that android doesn't have.
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Cool answer thanks, THUDUK. I'm on the same way as you.
I like to play with my phone but galaxy s is not really customizable..
I mean it can't available to use HTC phone's roms! haha
I love sense UI and I expect hd2 to will get windows 7 rom.
I won't look back like you THUDUK.
Meego?
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A lot of people will give you different combinations that work, it's all a case of "your mileage may vary".
I for instance run Chuckys Tabtastic GTX rom for WinMo and MDeeJey's Froyo HD 3.6 and everything is smooth as butter, so long as you don't mind the camera not working. (That's because the actual rom it's built from doesn't have the camera code available yet, but it will come soonish).
So long as you are willing to do a lot of initial reading and have patience before you start flashing anything you should love the capabilities and flexibility of the HD2. After all, pretty soon you should also be able to run MeeGo on it as well (and who knows, maybe even Windows Phone 7??)
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Thanks for answer Reno,
I used to use N900 which has Meego OS. But I don't think it's as good as other OS... So slow on N900 (I think due to resistive touch screen and bad CPU)..
I'm expecting HD2 will get WM7 OS..
By the way, my new HD2 is T-Mobile version..
what do I have to install in order to install the roms on my phone?
the only issue i face with android on hd2 is light sensor i can't get it t work good
Going to purchase a hd2 solely to run andriod, how does andriod run on it? How responsive is it? Does it lag? Are there any issues?
Just need overall feedback on the andriod experience runnin on the hd2...
y dont u just buy an android phone if u wan android?
It would be stupid to buy and HD2 solely for Android. The port is still not perfect, the battery drain high, and there are still many things not working.
If you want solely Android, do yourself a favor, and buy a Desire HD.
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It would be stupid to buy and HD2 solely for Android. The port is still not perfect, the battery drain high, and there are still many things not working.
If you want solely Android, do yourself a favor, and buy a Desire HD.
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I would love to buy a desire hd but I'm in ny and it doesn't work here... and I'm on t-mobile so buying a evo is out of the question also...
omnia1994 said:
y dont u just buy an android phone if u wan android?
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I'm using a nexus one I just want a bigger screen
For bigger Screen, with out any other thought you can simply buy a Desire HD, which is far more better than HD2 in all aspects
Using Android as every day system on my HD2, didn't boot in WM last 2-3 weeks.
Battery drain isn't high, for me it's equals or less then in WM. It does lag sometimes, but my friend's native android motorola does lag too.
I would say that Evo 4G or Desire HD would be a better option for android, but for me Evo wasn't an options as Iam not on CDMA, and Desire HD costs 300$ more then HD2 for almost same hardware.
I would love to buy the desire hd but it doesn't work in the US, more specifically new york, an I'm on tmo so evo is a no go...
i'm using android on my hd2 since august, never booted winmo again cause android works perfect for me. no need for winmo for me anymore.
battery drain is high, but when you have the possibility to recharge every evening it's no problem at all.
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and there are still many things not working.
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Uh, I've ran three Android builds (Desire base, CM6.1 base, HD base), and I barely see any problems with any of them. Worst yet is just some lag on the HD build and MMS refusing to work on the 6.1 build.
I got my HD2 solely for Android for $200 w/o contract. In all honesty, it's a super good "budget" Android phone, but like others said get a Desire HD/G2/native Android phone if money is no worries to you.
The galaxy s line of phone have 4 inch screens... or wait a few weeks and get a nexus s. That is going to be Google's new development phone, so newer apps and games will be built to take better advantage of the better gpu and chipset in the nexus s and the galaxy s line of phones.
Or wait a month or 2 and I'm sure there will be another native android phone with 4.3 inch screen.
You should definitely get a native android phone if you're just going to run android. The hd2 only runs a port, and it will always be a port. In the long run you will be much better with a native android phone. I can understand 4-6 months ago getting the hd2 for the big screen... but now there is many more choices out there for android. Also, I'm sure in a few months our devs will be moving on to new devices, and development will slow down for the hd2... at this point I would go for a newer device instead of a phone that's already 1 1/2 years old.... especially if you're not going to use winmo. If you were going to use winmo, it would be a completely different story, as the hd2 is going to be the last, greatest winmo device probably.... but just for android, go for a newer android device that still has a life ahead of it.
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I think Android runs really well on the HD2, even faster than some "real" Android phones (Like Galaxy S, which btw feels so damn plastic). But you have to be prepared that some functions might not work (like 720p recording). Ive used Android as my main OS since August without any big problems.
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I think Android runs really well on the HD2, even faster than some "real" Android phones (Like Galaxy S, which btw feels so damn plastic). But you have to be prepared that some functions might not work (like 720p recording). Ive used Android as my main OS since August without any big problems.
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I don't mind no 720p minor issues like that are not a problem...
Smygflik said:
I think Android runs really well on the HD2, even faster than some "real" Android phones (Like Galaxy S, which btw feels so damn plastic). But you have to be prepared that some functions might not work (like 720p recording). Ive used Android as my main OS since August without any big problems.
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720p recording does work now.....
I tried Android on my HD2 just 2 months ago and I was totally blown away with the rich application base and customisations that can be done to it. Battery drain wise is manageable with some cpu settings and tweaks. I had a Hero some time ago and I took a peek at the Hero section and was astonished that they are already running froyo roms too! So in that context I think that the HD2 Android development still have a long way to go before developers and chef starts to move on to another device...
Besides, with Nand multiple boot options coming along, you get to choose running various platform on one device like WM7 with Android and to me, that is soooooo amazing!!!
wait for gingerbread and buy nexus1,desire hd is another option but running android on HD2 has its own fun.you will become flasher after few days of buying HD2.
I bought a HD2 a few months back purely to run Android and I haven't regretted it for a second. I've got friends with Galaxy S's and other Android phones, and I wouldn't swap mine for any of them.
There is only one other phone with a 4.3" screen, the Desire HD, but that costs twice (or more) what you can pick up a HD2 for. And with other phones, how many of them have fully unlocked bootloaders? We know that when 2.3 and 3.0 come out the HD2 will get them within a day or so, you can't say that about most Android phones coming out now as they lock them up tighter and tighter. My mate is still waiting for 2.2 on his Galaxy.
I get no lag at all running CM6.1, my only remaining problems are that I'll occasionally get high current draw that needs a reboot to clear, and that if you use the SD card mount thing within the phone sooner or later you'll get data corruption (a consequence of running Android off the SD card and then trying to mount it elsewhere). I wouldn't complain if the battery life was better, but I'm happy to stick it on the charger each night. There's people complaining of battery life on the Desire HD too, that big screen takes some juice to run.
Frankly I don't care at all that we don't install to NAND, it adds a few seconds to the boot time and then you don't notice it. In return you can make a 1 or 2G data img and never have to worry about running out of app space like native android phones do.
a Desire HD if in euro or a Evo if in US would be the best solution for you if you are a simple person and wanted a android phone on a 4.3" screen and wanted it rooted (you would not be on XDA if you were average Joe/Jane)
This is the most obvious solution for the OP.
In my case I owned a G1,G2 (MAGIC,Before the real G2) and an N1 before exchanging the N1 for a HD2.... originally I found the HD2 + WM + Android a chore and flashing this radio, formatting my sdcard this and that way to make android perform the same as my N1.... then I found I could settle for a problem here and there to get the ability to have multi roms and not worry about nandroiding...
I switched from a nexus one and I solely run android. Windows sucks and I have been very happy with my decision. If you know how to use adb then you will be fine
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HD2 is a tinkerers phone,if you like tinkering around with different builds and roms then its ideal,solely as an android phone it ok,performance is good,even a bit faster than my girlfriends Desire but dont expect it to be perfect like native android phones and yes it simular Hardware to the desire HD but acording the guys on here in that section of the section of this forum,our beloved sister phone has a phew issues so im gonna say,down to personal preffrance,if it was me and was over there ide get a unlocked Evo 4g but as im in the U.K im happy sticking with my HD2.its still has a thew up on the Desire HD suprisingly
I also bought my HD2 a few months ago solely to run Android. It works brilliantly and gets higher quadrant scores than the equivalent pure Android phones. It also lasts me a good 24 hours with moderate use.
With new clean builds like cedesmith's Desire Spot I really can't see any difference in everyday usage to a dedicated Android phone.
I've just been offered a new phone from work, and to be honest even though that could be a Desire HD, I can't really see any benefits to upgrading, I can use the same sense build on my HD2 if I want and the only other plus is that it has a few extra megapixels in the camera sensor. It's also heavier and a has an annoying little ridge around the edge of the screen.
I think I'm sticking with the HD2 until there is something similar with a tegra inside.
So everything is in the title!! Without the money issue of course.. just wondering if i have to change what 's interesting out there?? Please do forget to say why..
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There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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I agree with everything you said here.
My replacement will have to have at least a 4.3 inch screen, dual core, more ram, and no frikkin 3D crap.
There is no way I'm changing my HD2 right now, but if I had to I'd pick the Evo 3D, not because of its specification nor of its supposed 3D. But because of it's design . It's so sexy
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There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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Lol totally agree with you but.. still the atrix looks good.. or even the lg optimus whatever the name is..
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sumthing dual core, but specifically qualcomm snapdragon.. not a big fan of the dual core tegra
reason - QC chips kick ass
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Lol totally agree with you but.. still the atrix looks good.. or even the lg optimus whatever the name is..
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Idk why but the Atrix... Something about it throws me off... The Optimus X2 looks good
I can't leave my hd2...
I could not live without my HD2.
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I will never get rid of my HD2, even after it completely dies one day it will go into my go into my archieves as atestamony to it's greatness lol. But I am looking forward to tbe release of the HTC Pyramid. It is a dual core Snapdragon. Hell yeah!!!
Guys come on! I know we all love our HD2's but if you had the opportunity to switch to a native android device which didn't have any bugs and had the new snapdragon processor you'd definitely change. Also wake up lag is a *****.
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I think this would make me wanna leave my HD2...
http://wwalczyszyn.deviantart.com/art/HTC-quot-Eerie-quot-HD3-159409776
A phone with multi-os
Whilst I love my HD2 I have temporarily traded it for my cousin's captivate. Main reason so as to try out a native android phone.
So from my experience, i can conclude that android on this captivate is so much more smoother/faster than any rom from my HD2. In terms of variety of roms, it sucks, its either stock, themed stock, vanilla, themed vanilla. No variety in their roms really...
But that is where all those 3rd party launchers come in, like launcher 7. ;D
Whilst I do not know which device I want next, I do know it won't be another HTC or a motorola device. Reason being for both motorola and HTC, they've locked down their bootloaders now, so that means no more custom kernels, true root, etc. Also for HTC, snapdragon GPUs just suck, period.
I am keeping a keen eye on the galaxy s 2 however.
Definitely plan on getting the Htc Pyramid. Reasins why, 4.3' native android phone, dual core, 8mp camera, 1.3 front camera. 540x960 qhd resolution.
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Whilst I do not know which device I want next, I do know it won't be another HTC or a motorola device. Reason being for both motorola and HTC, they've locked down their bootloaders now, so that means no more custom kernels, true root, etc. Also for HTC, snapdragon GPUs just suck, period.
I am keeping a keen eye on the galaxy s 2 however.
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I don't know if i'm mistaken but i think that the devs are working hard on the locked down bootloaders that you mention.. and with a dual core snapdragon the htc pyramid sounds great.. but like you said just keeping an eye on it..
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i think HD2 is the best right now with no comparing,but the time cpu upgraded the heat come more and more without solving,i think HTC should be ware of designing internal component in the future ,most of common problem related to hd2 comes from heat, stuck.freezing and sometimes i have to put mine in freezer to boot, ,
My contract runs out next month and I like to get the latest technology as soon as possible as then the phone retains its value when you want to sell it.
But what will be the next HD2? I love the fact that I can run WP7, Android etc will any phone in the future be so versitile? Probably not.
I'm really not sure whether to just stick with my HD2 or upgrade to the EVO 3D, just a shame it doesnt have a Tegra 2 processor as that would pursade me.
A Tmous HD2 with 1gb rom
@chars
Yes they are working on it. However since HTC just released the source code for the thunderbolt, by which allows devs to truly root the device, maybe HTC isn't following in line with locking bootloaders. If so I will be keeping a keen eye on the pyramid. However since it's an adreno GPU I'm not sure....
I currently own a G2, and I'm planning on getting the Sensation when it is released, but in the mean time I really want a 4.3 inch screen phone, because I haven't used the keyboard on my G2 since I got Swiftkey. My question today is, does anyone have any valid reasons why I should hold on to the G2? I'm currently the latest MIUI and overclocked to 1.5GHZ, and it's my understanding that MIUI runs pretty smoothly on the HD2. So is it worth it? or should I just stick it out until the Sensation comes out.
I don't think so, HD2 does have a nice big 4.3' screen. But its CPU is kinda old because it uses 65nm tech and it consumes more battery. Performance wise qsd8250 is quite snappy tho.
Maybe try and have a look at samsung galaxy s vibrant? it has 4.0' screen and its spec is pretty good
Except I hate galaxy s phones. -_-
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The HD2 hardware doesn't run Android natively, its just a port. I can't personally say (don't have an HD2) but my gut feeling is that it will never be able to run Android (any ROM) as smoothly as the G2. Even if it was a native Android phone, as already mentioned, it uses an old generation of Snapdragon, which the CPU on the G2 runs circles around. The HD2 is still used by uber-nerds for its ability to run multiple OSes (Windows Mobile, Android, Windows Phone). But to me, its more novelty than actual function. IMO, Android is the only OS of those that is worth anything, anyway.
Nope.
They both had a different purpose and they were both available at different time.
Isn't the sensation supposed to come out in June? That only 20 days away. Max 50 days, if the device comes out on the last day of June. I would just wait.
I know someone that has it on the hd2, and its actually kinda delayed, I wasn't impressed at all actually other than the fact it had android on a windows phone.
Its the screen size that I want more than anything. I would sacrifice my keyboard for a larger screen device.
Nonsense!
Ive got HD2, was running android on it the whole time I was using it. It does run pretty well, occasionally though it will crash and mess the whole system up forcing a reinstall.
Since Ive had my Desire Z the HD2 has been sat in its box.
Id wait for the Sensation or get a Desire HD
ive owned a hd2 and ran android on there, in all fairness the desire z or g2 runs android much better than the hd2... not that there is anything wrong with the hd2... in fact the hd2 is the most versatile device to date... i think you should wait until sensation
I just sold my hd2 last week, picked up an hd7, then traded that for this g2.
I hated the hd7, mainly because I didn't dig wp7. The phone itself felt solid. I tried every current android rom (miui, cm7, sense etc..) on the hd2 along with wp7. Android was fairly smooth on it with not many issues. The hardware is outdated though, and playing any sort of games on it was rough. It barely pulled off angry birds, and was choppy with any other game with 3d graphics. Battery was also poor, and gps wasn't very good on any rom.
I like my g2 so far(on cm7) but I'm not in love with it yet. My wifes vibrant is great on stock kb5 with overstock kernel, but there aren't a whole lot of great rom options for it. Gps is hit or miss. I wouldn't get another hd2 unless I got it for super cheap. Its not quite as great as everyone led me to believe.
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I like my g2 so far(on cm7) but I'm not in love with it yet.
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Really? i liked CM7 at one point, but i wasnt in love with it too
U should try UD ROM, it runs great on my G2 and i still use it now
I loved my HD2. Easily the best phone hardware I've ever owned as far as look, feel, and form factor. The G2 feels huge in my pocket compared to my HD2. HD2 does run Android pretty good. But, g2/DZ does run android better. The MSM7x30 is just a more powerful platform than the original snapdragon. I think if you were comming from something like a Moto CLiq or G1 etc you would love the HD2. Comming from a G2 I think you will notice the age of the snapdragon running android.
i've made a video for you my friend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZExKK1irU-s&feature=channel_video_title
I have a hd2 right now and both my parents have g2s. If your planning on playing games that need multitouch don't get an hd2 because multitouch does not work very well. Other than brand new 3d games everything on it works perfectly. Im running cm7 and its very snappy, better than a lot of stock android phones and i havent had any issues at all
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The CPU on the hd2 is 1ghz and the g2 is 800mhz how does that run circles around the hd2, I have the hd2 running nexushd2-gingerbread v2.7 its smooth as butter everything works and its based on nexus 2.3.4 so Netflix works without a prob too
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The CPU on the hd2 is 1ghz and the g2 is 800mhz how does that run circles around the hd2, I have the hd2 running nexushd2-gingerbread v2.7 its smooth as butter everything works and its based on nexus 2.3.4 so Netflix works without a prob too
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Your reading too much into CPU frequency, it doesnt make a difference in this case. The new Snapdragon in the G2 even at 800mhz is faster than the older Snapdragon in the HD2 even at 1ghz. New vs Old technology. Not to mention the G2 also has a better GPU. It will run circles around a HD2, no question.
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Really? i liked CM7 at one point, but i wasnt in love with it too
U should try UD ROM, it runs great on my G2 and i still use it now
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All of you need to try meXdroid V3 rom. You will fall in love with your phones all over again!
HTC-Vision/meXdroid-mexperia V3
marc187 said:
The CPU on the hd2 is 1ghz and the g2 is 800mhz how does that run circles around the hd2, I have the hd2 running nexushd2-gingerbread v2.7 its smooth as butter everything works and its based on nexus 2.3.4 so Netflix works without a prob too
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Seems you're one of those who judge the lower cpu frequency as a bad thing not knowing the G2 being @ 800mhz is faster the the nexus one @ 1ghz let alone the hd2. Don't believe me do your research on the topic, G2 is faster, has better GPU and it beats the hd2 in everyway possible in terms of processor
T-Mobile G2 1.42 GHZ
androidfeen809 said:
Seems you're one of those who judge the lower cpu frequency as a bad thing not knowing the G2 being @ 800mhz is faster the the nexus one @ 1ghz let alone the hd2. Don't believe me do your research on the topic, G2 is faster, has better GPU and it beats the hd2 in everyway possible in terms of processor
T-Mobile G2 1.42 GHZ
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True. The G2 has a 2nd genaration processor
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Well I owned a HD which unfortunately broke. I only had the Android ports booting from the SD card every time, but they were brilliant, especially the butter smooth miui. It would run better than on my friends nexus one.
Now I have the desire z, and although I couldn't tell much of a difference between the two's performance, now the desire z is overclock to 1.5ghz it will beat the HD2 hands down, but I don't think by much.
I know everyone is going to start saying "benchmarks don't reflect true performance/their results are worthless" but this is bs. My HD2 scored around 2000 in quadrant at 1.2 and my desire z scores the same at 1.5ghz on this sense Rom. It does get 2500ish on the miui Rom, and you can tell the performance is better there. Never the less the highly respectable score of the HD2 show what a quality phone it is, and if it wasn't the cracking deal I got on my desire z I would be getting another HD2. It certainly had more dev support anyway.
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