I was just informed by a motorola Rep that the wifi only version will not have an sdcard slot. I looked on costco website (yes I know but only thing I can access at work) and it does not list one. Can anyone confirm this???
Several sources are saying it has one....so glad.
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Very interesting. Doesn't say anything on the website about MicroSD. I don't see why it wouldn't though?
Amazon says there is MicroSD support, however.
Maybe he meant sim card slot.
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Maybe he meant sim card slot.
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Hopefully! But in the 3G/4G Xoom the SIM and microSD card share the same slot.
He said the sdcard would not work until the 4g update and since the wifi only didn't have the 4g slot, it also doesn't have a sdcard slot.
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bwcorvus said:
He said the sdcard would not work until the 4g update and since the wifi only didn't have the 4g slot, it also doesn't have a sdcard slot.
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Wow... guess we'll find out in a few days.
Does Xoom have GPS? Haven't even looked at the specs really. Preordered my wifi only 2 days ago.
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Does Xoom have GPS? Haven't even looked at the specs really. Preordered my wifi only 2 days ago.
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it has agps.
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the Canadian future shop site also lists an SD slot....
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He said the sdcard would not work until the 4g update and since the wifi only didn't have the 4g slot, it also doesn't have a sdcard slot.
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Everything I have read to date leads me to believe this is a falsehood. The SD slot is completely dependent on a Honeycomb update, not the 4g.
We get them in tomorrow, hoping the boss man will let me look at a box/read it...maybe open the display
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it has agps.
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So you will have to be connected to a network?
agps is a normal gps that can be assisted by other sources. no agps is soley dependent on radio, they will all work with just satellite signals.
This from the Amazon site.
Memory
* 32 GB internal memory
* Memory expansion via microSD card slot with support for optional cards up to 32 GB (functionality requires future software upgrade).
If it doesn't.. I'd said it's false advertising. Plus, it really doesn't make sense for it 'not' to have it. I just imagine the 'sim card' door will say microSD instead. If it says anything on it at all now. If I were Moto, I wouldn't change the design between 3g/non-3g. Having the same door for both is pretty smart. Just means the Wifi version is microSD only.
My 2cents.
hmm yeah that WOULD be false advertisement.
Also, aGPS ... I never get that. Just say GPS Chip with aGPS support. Less confusing. GPS Chip = no need for data to get signal.
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agps is a normal gps that can be assisted by other sources. no agps is soley dependent on radio, they will all work with just satellite signals.
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agps means it will connect without a network, but to get directions you will need a signal. Once you have them you can drop your wifi.
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http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U.../Tablets/ci.MOTOROLA-XOOM-with-WiFi-US-EN.alt
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http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U.../Tablets/ci.MOTOROLA-XOOM-with-WiFi-US-EN.alt
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Yeah.. I don't see a MicroSD spec on there...
BUT.. their 3G model doesn't say it either and it's got the hardware for it. So it's anybody's guess at this point. Interested to see what we see in the next few days (or tomorrow if you get to crack open that box).
Here is the 3G page: http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Tablets/ci.MOTOROLA-XOOM-US-EN.alt
Lastly.. I can't imagine Amazon came up with the description text on their site all on their own. Motorola had to supply that.. you would think at least.
The fact the 3g model doesn't show it gives me hope...
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Matt on the official forums says it's not true. It has an SD slot.
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Looks really easy to take apart. That's good to know.
Also, it has the same Qualcomm MDM6600 3G radio that the iPhone 4 has. That means it's possibly HSPA+ capable?
LINK Enjoy!
Hardware will support up to 15 touch points! That means if Moto capped it to 8 in software, someone can uncap it back to 15!
XDA members with polydactyly syndrome rejoice!
I guess they didn't think anyone would be using both hands and a foot on the screen.
Does the sim card slot take only 4G? Where do I put the sim for 3G network?
Polarfuchs said:
Does the sim card slot take only 4G? Where do I put the sim for 3G network?
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there is no sim for 3g. cdma networks dont use sim cards. The sim card spot is only for lte when the upgrade is ready
So it that xoom differs from the european version and can't be used when imported to germany?!
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So it that xoom differs from the european version and can't be used when imported to germany?!
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correct, verizon has de cdma, as apposed to GMS that is the norm in most of Europe.
I'm curious as to the quality of the camera builds. And also if there is anything indicating the LTE hardware is already present? Meaning we'll just have to update the radio which can be done without sending in.
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I'm curious as to the quality of the camera builds. And also if there is anything indicating the LTE hardware is already present? Meaning we'll just have to update the radio which can be done without sending in.
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You have to ship it to get the 4G upgrade. See:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20036491-64.html?tag=cnetRiver
Camera is good for me although some others are complaining about blurriness. Not sure what that is about as I think mine works fine. See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970108
I understand that rooting or even installing a custom ROM could void your warranty; if so, will they still do the upgrade to 4G? Or they will send it back to you untouched claiming that you voided your warranty.
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I was trying to figure out where the 4G radio goes, too. They don't point it out on the board, and I don't see it. I'm guessing they're just going to take out the 3G and slap a Qualcomm 4G in there.
And, yes, rooting and unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty. When we finally get SD support, there will no doubt be a way to restore everything, and since the bootloader is relockable, you should be good if you put everything back where it was.
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I was trying to figure out where the 4G radio goes, too. They don't point it out on the board, and I don't see it. I'm guessing they're just going to take out the 3G and slap a Qualcomm 4G in there.
And, yes, rooting and unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty. When we finally get SD support, there will no doubt be a way to restore everything, and since the bootloader is relockable, you should be good if you put everything back where it was.
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Really? You mean you didn't see the card with no chips on it with the antennas plugged into it? That is exactly where the 4g modem will go.
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I guess they didn't think anyone would be using both hands and a foot on the screen.
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LOL!
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Look at step 8 photos, is it me or could you slap a mini pcie ssd card in for that dummy antenna card? Do you think it would work?
I wonder if motorola would let me trade in my 4G LTE upgrade for a working GSM 3G radio?
Seeing as how I travel, that would be 1000x more meaningful to me. I dont expect much though... as it turns out big companies just so happen to wake up on the "we're blood sucking heartless monster from hell" side of the bed every single day.
I mean for ****s sake an 800$ tablet should already be considered a purchase of an "unlocked device" to begin with, and all the hardware you paid for (i.e a world capable data chip) should be fully your property and thus fully enabled without you having to beg.
I read the article the day it was written, and they make a valid point about the radio being simple to upgrade. I don't understand why they couldn't just have some VZW personnel pop in the LTE chip.
Some of them are bright, while others... not so much. You all remember the .002cent video from a while ago?
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Camera is good for me although some others are complaining about blurriness. Not sure what that is about as I think mine works fine. See:
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This might sound silly but maybe they forgot to remove the protective plastic film from the lens before using it? Happened to me in the past!
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I wonder if motorola would let me trade in my 4G LTE upgrade for a working GSM 3G radio?
Seeing as how I travel, that would be 1000x more meaningful to me. I dont expect much though... as it turns out big companies just so happen to wake up on the "we're blood sucking heartless monster from hell" side of the bed every single day.
I mean for ****s sake an 800$ tablet should already be considered a purchase of an "unlocked device" to begin with, and all the hardware you paid for (i.e a world capable data chip) should be fully your property and thus fully enabled without you having to beg.
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It already has a GSM radio in it, the chip can handle both CDMA and GSM. However the antenna design is totally different to get those frequencies, so it's not a simple swap in like you assume.
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It already has a GSM radio in it, the chip can handle both CDMA and GSM. However the antenna design is totally different to get those frequencies, so it's not a simple swap in like you assume.
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So what does this mean essentially? I am a laymen so i have to ask, is the different antenna design you are speaking about ultimately a hardware issue or is it a firmware/software issue that can, at least in theory, be hacked?
Thank you for your response by the way. I look forward to any info, even if it is bad news.
I have the 3G Xoom from work and I was considering getting the WIFI so I could use it for personal use. In checking the ads I can not find that it has the MicroSD slot installed and working.
Anyone have any information on this?
None of the specs on the Moto site for either 3G or WiFi list SD capabilities. I doubt that the card would be enabled on the WiFi and not on the 3G yet. From the pics it looks like the slot is still there but they are renders so we won't know until the units start shipping.
Well I work for a large office retail store (staples) and we are getting the wifi only version in store this week. The pre orders are currently going on now so I know that there is at least wifi built in.
Rastlin
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confirmed by Moto Rep, SD Hardware is in the WIFI, but no support in Honey Comb YET....
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confirmed by Moto Rep, SD Hardware is in the WIFI, but no support in Honey Comb YET....
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Correct, its there just doesn't work.
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Well, I'll admit that I haven't done any research on this, and it's a rumor I heard today.. that the wifi xoom is going to have the sim card slot activated in a future update.. meaning those of us who have the wifi version will be able to drop in a sim card and get 3G data.. anyone able to disprove this? I'm not counting on this, but it would be sweet if it was true.. lol
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Well, I'll admit that I haven't done any research on this, and it's a rumor I heard today.. that the wifi xoom is going to have the sim card slot activated in a future update.. meaning those of us who have the wifi version will be able to drop in a sim card and get 3G data.. anyone able to disprove this? I'm not counting on this, but it would be sweet if it was true.. lol
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1. There would be a lot of pissed off people who paid the extra buck.
2. The hardware isn't there so it'll never happen.
3. Proof? Search for XOOM WIFI tear down.
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
Just because the it has a slot doesn't mean it has the hardware.
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1. There would be a lot of pissed off people who paid the extra buck.
2. The hardware isn't there so it'll never happen.
3. Proof? Search for XOOM WIFI tear down.
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
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I believe someone on this forum found the sim card is functional? just no drivers to use it.
I've never held a doom before but I plan on getting one.
They have similar card slots? And if this is really true... wow Verizon customers got ripped off badly.
Hopefully the sim card slot won't be restricted to any carrier
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I never said I had proof or anything.. It was just a thought.. plus when I look in the slot, I can see contacts in there.. so atleast the socket is there...
Look at the tear down and you will see what we are talking about. There is no connectors on the motherboard for the 4g module, if you are really good you could solder something in and figure out where to get the hardware to connect.
Might as well by the 3g version!
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They have similar card slots? And if this is really true... wow Verizon customers got ripped off badly.
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Christ, the misinformation in this thread ...!
LTE requires a SIM for authentication (whose socket is installed on the board but otherwise unused), and is UNRELATED to the CDMA that the Verizon 3G versions use, which authenticate via the MEID of the 3G radio, which is NOT installed on the WiFi versions.
i read somewhere (maybe here) that whats missing is the radio so without it there is no use
theres a mini pci-e slot maybe we can install 3g radio just like laptops
False info.... do some research before you post a whole thread dedicated to a rumour.
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I can't decide if I want a 3g or just wifi. The difference in price is quite substantial £579 vs £479 I believe. I wonder if it will be possible to use a dongle or mobile phone as a hot spot. Any comments?
I tried out the Mobile WiFi Hotspot app on my HTC this evening and the WiFi Tab connected to it easily, I was on a reasonably quick 3G connection at the time and everything worked really well. I was sat in my car (waiting) and I suppose the downside to this is that I was draining battery on 2 devices at the same time.
If you're indoors then you could have one or both devices on charge and battery would'nt be an issue.
Lot of 3G users feel there is no love for them on the forums since most dev's create Wifi only ROMs. Wifi only Tabs are more common here in the US and have been out a lot longer, so development happens more frequently.
I went for wifi only because everywhere I go, generally has free wifi available. I tether with my Captivate if I can not find a wifi signal.
3G IMO.
Tethering just ends up draining the battery on two devices at the same time and a lot of networks charge extra for it (thankfully I have it included in my tariff).
Also, the 3G Tab has a memory card slot whereas the wi-fi only model does not.
If you do go for the 3G Tab, Three have a SIM-only data tariff aimed at iPads which gives you 10GB for £15 on a 30-day rolling contract.
One of the best value data tariffs in the UK and better yet no fixed term.
You have an SD card slot on your Tab?
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No but I have the wi-fi only version.
they removed the SD card slot even in the 3G version.
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Also, the 3G Tab has a memory card slot whereas the wi-fi only model does not.
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Are you sure about that? Last i heard the 3G model doesnt have a microSD slot.
If you do go for the 3G Tab, Three have a SIM-only data tariff aimed at iPads which gives you 10GB for £15 on a 30-day rolling contract.
One of the best value data tariffs in the UK and better yet no fixed term.
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A regular Three PAYG SIM has unlimited data for £15 - no need for an iPad "plan"!
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they removed the SD card slot even in the 3G version.
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In which case my apologies, everything I'd read so far (even on here) said otherwise.
That's really pretty criminal of Samsung, it's not like the issue of, say, a full-sized HDMI port which wouldn't fit onto a device like the Tab, there's no good reason for them not to have included a microSD slot.
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A regular Three PAYG SIM has unlimited data for £15 - no need for an iPad "plan"!
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Except, doing that is expressly forbidden:
Three said:
When using data, tethering a phone to a laptop for internet use, using the SIM in a Mobile Broadband Device or using hotspot functionality is not included.
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Do you know of it's possible to use a USB dongle with it?
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You couldn't run a dongle directly from the Tab, you wouldn't have the necessary drivers.
You could use one of the mi-fi devices but then you're back to tethering and having to charge two devices etc.
I've got the 3G version and there's definitely no SD card slot...
3G is the way to go if you plan on using it outside, I'm nearly 3 hours a day in the bus and it's really handy
I was thinking about getting WiFi-only version and tether with my HTC Desire, but it's a huge battery drainage for the phone and i'm on public transport 2hrs/day, so i ended up with 3G version (anyway it's pretty hard to get 7510 here in Russia, they are not yet officially distributing it, we have 16Gb 7500 only). As for ROM situation, don't worry Stock ROM is pretty smooth with V6 supercharger script + OC 1.4Ghz Kernel.
TLR version: ask yourself "Do I have free WiFi everywhere i go?", because tethering everyday with your phone is not cool.
I pretty much echo the other 3G users, when I bought my iPad last year, I got all the way to the check out with the wifi version, then changed my mind at the last minute and got the 3G version, it was the best thing I did, so when it came to getting the Tab, I wasn't going for any other version than the 3G version.
In my opinion, it's an accompanying mobile device, if I have to go and find somewhere that had wifi each time I needed access to the net, it wouldn't be very mobile? I just get my SIM cards of Ebay, 3GB of data to use in 3 months, cheap as chips.
So in short "3G version, every time!"
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I pretty much echo the other 3G users, when I bought my iPad last year, I got all the way to the check out with the wifi version, then changed my mind at the last minute and got the 3G version, it was the best thing I did, so when it came to getting the Tab, I wasn't going for any other version than the 3G version.
In my opinion, it's an accompanying mobile device, if I have to go and find somewhere that had wifi each time I needed access to the net, it wouldn't be very mobile? I just get my SIM cards of Ebay, 3GB of data to use in 3 months, cheap as chips.
So in short "3G version, every time!"
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I think the same ! The tablet like ipad, galaxy tab are nothing without 3G , it will become just a Toy . 3G all the way!
RavenY2K3 said:
I pretty much echo the other 3G users, when I bought my iPad last year, I got all the way to the check out with the wifi version, then changed my mind at the last minute and got the 3G version, it was the best thing I did, so when it came to getting the Tab, I wasn't going for any other version than the 3G version.
In my opinion, it's an accompanying mobile device, if I have to go and find somewhere that had wifi each time I needed access to the net, it wouldn't be very mobile? I just get my SIM cards of Ebay, 3GB of data to use in 3 months, cheap as chips.
So in short "3G version, every time!"
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Great post!
Thanks a lot guys! Very helpful. I think that
32GB 3G is what I want. Have to wait until it's available in the UK.
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i always carry my phone with me..and given thats android i can tether to my tablet whilst commuting to and from work.
so really no need for a 3G tablet...dont like paying twice for my data
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...dont like paying twice for my data
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That presumes your network doesn't charge extra for tethering.
In the UK, only one network offers tethering by default on all tariffs but you still get better value paying for one of their mobile broadband tariffs.
nandihno said:
i always carry my phone with me..and given thats android i can tether to my tablet whilst commuting to and from work.
so really no need for a 3G tablet...dont like paying twice for my data
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I don't know which country are you living but why you have to pay twice for your data ? In my country we pay for what we use. Your tablet don't have 3G you still have to pay 3G fee for your phone, your tablet have 3G you don't have to pay 3G for your phone and pay for tablet only.
By the way, 3G tablet was the best choice if you can buy it.
So im thinkning of moding my WIFI only device to add the GSM capabilitys Any one attempt this yet. Anyone know the parts needed to do this?
Thanks in advance
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Anyone know the parts needed to do this?
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Yes, a complete 3G Nexus 7 should do the trick. To install it is easy. Put down the Wifi model, pick up the 3G one, and sign into your existing Google account.
Job Done.
You will have some leftover parts (a complete Nexus 7 Wifi), you can sell this on ebay.
ok, this really made me lol.
he's right though, its easier to get a gsm one...
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So im thinkning of moding my WIFI only device to add the GSM capabilitys Any one attempt this yet. Anyone know the parts needed to do this?
Thanks in advance
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Yeah, get a 3g n7 board off ebay, also a 3g back cover with it, I believe thats all you need.
I'll try and install next week, will let you know how it goes.
Wejgomi
Wow, really? This thread is not a joke attempt?
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Wow, really? This thread is not a joke attempt?
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Eh, it's a legitimate question if OP has never opened him N7. I just fixed my little brothers tablet (not an N7) and it was the same board as the 3G version, just without the sim card slot, antennas, etc. The solder points for everything were still there and ready to go. 3G tablets are ripoffs anyway, just tether your phone and you're good everywhere.
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I thought about doing this as well but I read in a earlier forum whom was trying to fix their 3g with parts from the WiFi and was not having much success can anyone confirm that the points are the same or roughly the same?
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Anyone know how I can make my laptop into a netbook? I need something easier to carry around. Will throwing it in the washing machine shrink it? Please help.
I read that the screws are in different places, the LCD and motherboards of the 3g are not compatible with the WiFi only there's a thread about it somewhere
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Thank you for the response I saw sometime ask earlier and I had not done due diligence to see if this was possible again thank you
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Eh, it's a legitimate question if OP has never opened him N7. I just fixed my little brothers tablet (not an N7) and it was the same board as the 3G version, just without the sim card slot, antennas, etc. The solder points for everything were still there and ready to go.
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I wasn't able to find N7 3G teardown photos with a cursory google search, but I'd assume the wifi model is also missing the XMM6260 3G modem chip.
Procuring this chip and finding a way to solder it down (it looks like a 17x17 BGA package) will probably cost a fair amount more than the $50-100 price difference.
Flippy125 said:
Eh, it's a legitimate question if OP has never opened him N7. I just fixed my little brothers tablet (not an N7) and it was the same board as the 3G version, just without the sim card slot, antennas, etc. The solder points for everything were still there and ready to go. 3G tablets are ripoffs anyway, just tether your phone and you're good everywhere.
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^This^ is how all XDA posts should be. Polite,informative, and all the info is correct.
To add,I'll say that I have a Grouper,and I tether it to a zte avid 4g on metro pcs. The $60 unlimited data LTE plan. Have a good signal where I live so it works great. Any other wireless provider,even a mifi hotspot,would kill me on data overages. So if you can get a good signal where you live its a good idea to check it out.
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I will concur with that statement about how to respond to posts, moving on. If I had read these posts correctly in theory if one has acquired the motherboard of a 3g with the back to match then one could use the funny half of the wifi model then. Expounding on that let's say if one was able to do that then they could in a sense "upgrade" from a wifi to a 3g. If what I had postulated is in fact the then when the price drops due to the next gen being avaliable then one could get themselves a 3g at Semi decent price..... In theory...
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