Looks really easy to take apart. That's good to know.
Also, it has the same Qualcomm MDM6600 3G radio that the iPhone 4 has. That means it's possibly HSPA+ capable?
LINK Enjoy!
Hardware will support up to 15 touch points! That means if Moto capped it to 8 in software, someone can uncap it back to 15!
XDA members with polydactyly syndrome rejoice!
I guess they didn't think anyone would be using both hands and a foot on the screen.
Does the sim card slot take only 4G? Where do I put the sim for 3G network?
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Does the sim card slot take only 4G? Where do I put the sim for 3G network?
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there is no sim for 3g. cdma networks dont use sim cards. The sim card spot is only for lte when the upgrade is ready
So it that xoom differs from the european version and can't be used when imported to germany?!
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So it that xoom differs from the european version and can't be used when imported to germany?!
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correct, verizon has de cdma, as apposed to GMS that is the norm in most of Europe.
I'm curious as to the quality of the camera builds. And also if there is anything indicating the LTE hardware is already present? Meaning we'll just have to update the radio which can be done without sending in.
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I'm curious as to the quality of the camera builds. And also if there is anything indicating the LTE hardware is already present? Meaning we'll just have to update the radio which can be done without sending in.
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You have to ship it to get the 4G upgrade. See:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20036491-64.html?tag=cnetRiver
Camera is good for me although some others are complaining about blurriness. Not sure what that is about as I think mine works fine. See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970108
I understand that rooting or even installing a custom ROM could void your warranty; if so, will they still do the upgrade to 4G? Or they will send it back to you untouched claiming that you voided your warranty.
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I was trying to figure out where the 4G radio goes, too. They don't point it out on the board, and I don't see it. I'm guessing they're just going to take out the 3G and slap a Qualcomm 4G in there.
And, yes, rooting and unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty. When we finally get SD support, there will no doubt be a way to restore everything, and since the bootloader is relockable, you should be good if you put everything back where it was.
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I was trying to figure out where the 4G radio goes, too. They don't point it out on the board, and I don't see it. I'm guessing they're just going to take out the 3G and slap a Qualcomm 4G in there.
And, yes, rooting and unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty. When we finally get SD support, there will no doubt be a way to restore everything, and since the bootloader is relockable, you should be good if you put everything back where it was.
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Really? You mean you didn't see the card with no chips on it with the antennas plugged into it? That is exactly where the 4g modem will go.
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LOL!
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Look at step 8 photos, is it me or could you slap a mini pcie ssd card in for that dummy antenna card? Do you think it would work?
I wonder if motorola would let me trade in my 4G LTE upgrade for a working GSM 3G radio?
Seeing as how I travel, that would be 1000x more meaningful to me. I dont expect much though... as it turns out big companies just so happen to wake up on the "we're blood sucking heartless monster from hell" side of the bed every single day.
I mean for ****s sake an 800$ tablet should already be considered a purchase of an "unlocked device" to begin with, and all the hardware you paid for (i.e a world capable data chip) should be fully your property and thus fully enabled without you having to beg.
I read the article the day it was written, and they make a valid point about the radio being simple to upgrade. I don't understand why they couldn't just have some VZW personnel pop in the LTE chip.
Some of them are bright, while others... not so much. You all remember the .002cent video from a while ago?
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Camera is good for me although some others are complaining about blurriness. Not sure what that is about as I think mine works fine. See:
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This might sound silly but maybe they forgot to remove the protective plastic film from the lens before using it? Happened to me in the past!
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I wonder if motorola would let me trade in my 4G LTE upgrade for a working GSM 3G radio?
Seeing as how I travel, that would be 1000x more meaningful to me. I dont expect much though... as it turns out big companies just so happen to wake up on the "we're blood sucking heartless monster from hell" side of the bed every single day.
I mean for ****s sake an 800$ tablet should already be considered a purchase of an "unlocked device" to begin with, and all the hardware you paid for (i.e a world capable data chip) should be fully your property and thus fully enabled without you having to beg.
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It already has a GSM radio in it, the chip can handle both CDMA and GSM. However the antenna design is totally different to get those frequencies, so it's not a simple swap in like you assume.
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It already has a GSM radio in it, the chip can handle both CDMA and GSM. However the antenna design is totally different to get those frequencies, so it's not a simple swap in like you assume.
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So what does this mean essentially? I am a laymen so i have to ask, is the different antenna design you are speaking about ultimately a hardware issue or is it a firmware/software issue that can, at least in theory, be hacked?
Thank you for your response by the way. I look forward to any info, even if it is bad news.
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i have a unlocked hd2 using AT&T i know they say it wont get 3g unless i bought the australian version but every once a and a while it will get 3g for 20 sec to a minute or so am i the only one experiencing this
That sucks, I was hoping to be able to move this to AT&T eventually. There's no point if there's no 3G though.
AT&T and T-Mobile uses different 3G bands. There is no way you will ever get AT&T 3G on a T-Mobile 3G phone.
to get a hd2 that can get at&ts 3g you have to buy hd2 t9193 thats an australian phone
OHHH NOOO!
CRAP! This is what I get for not doing my research properly. I have been absolutely HATING T-Mobiles network, I can go anywhere with my Tilt 2 and HD2 and the Tilt 2 ALWAYS has better reception and better G connections. T-Mobile is rolling out this new "Ultra G" but even if the speed hype is true, I seriously doubt that the COVERAGE will improve. And their coverage SUCKS! Ahh, but I love the HD2... Plan was, as others said, to move back to AT&T eventually, using this phone. NOW what do I do. Find an Aussie that wants to Trade?
no one will want to trade i recommend you sell yours craigslist or how ever then jump to eBay buy one from Australia cause if you bid on one of those t9193's that are here in the us expect to pay close to 800 if you buy from Australia you'll spend a little under 700
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i have a unlocked hd2 using AT&T i know they say it wont get 3g unless i bought the australian version but every once a and a while it will get 3g for 20 sec to a minute or so am i the only one experiencing this
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I too have noticed this. Especially on the northern side of the DC area. I've driven through and each time I get the 3G symbol for a little bit and then it drops out. So you're not crazy or anything else. I'm glad you shared this because I was wondering also.
makes me think that some type for software would enable AT&Ts 3g on the US hd2
I wonder also if they have the 850 mghz one in their supply chain and don't know it or don't care and have released them. I'm heading back the same way again this week, so I'll keep my eyes on my phone. I wish there was a way to tell what chip it is and what bands it will pick up.
They couldn't "just release" or enable cross-band functionality like that without clearing with the FCC first, and that hasn't happened. When the HD2 first received it's license it was certified to exclusively work on the bands specified, and AT&T's were not among those. And, even if you were able to "hack" it to work, you'd likely be violating the law.
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They couldn't "just release" or enable cross-band functionality like that without clearing with the FCC first, and that hasn't happened. When the HD2 first received it's license it was certified to exclusively work on the bands specified, and AT&T's were not among those. And, even if you were able to "hack" it to work, you'd likely be violating the law.
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and apple say jailbreaking there devices is violating the law too right. thats never stopped people from using there talent before
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and apple say jailbreaking there devices is violating the law too right. thats never stopped people from using there talent before
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I guess but it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison because you don't have to defy the laws of physics to jailbreak an iphone...but you would have to do just that to get the HD2 to work on AT&T's 3G bands.
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I guess but it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison because you don't have to defy the laws of physics to jailbreak an iphone...but you would have to do just that to get the HD2 to work on AT&T's 3G bands.
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well if you remember the first iphone jailbreak hats off to GEOHOT was a hardware and software jailbreak. i my search how to make my hd2 get 3g on AT&T i want to know what do you think if i'm to buy a 3g antenna from htc.au and replace that with my 3g antenna what do you think
I was speaking to a Tmobile rep on the phone who couldn't go into details because of a recorded line, but mentioned that the HD2 can run on the 4G network. He said there are "ways that will not void warranty". He said to just search and I will find it. It was not a hardware limitation, but a software one. Anyone have an idea on this?
Cmon bro, you have over 1300 posts and you think the HD2 is capable of 4G and that it's a software limitation? Secondly, even Tmobile themselves dont even know what 4G is with their subliminal ads, what make you think any of their reps know any better?
HD2 doesn't run on 4G and it's a hardware limitation period
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Cmon bro, you have over 1300 posts and you think the HD2 is capable of 4G and that it's a software limitation? Secondly, even Tmobile themselves dont even know what 4G is with their subliminal ads, what make you think any of their reps know any better?
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What does my post count have to do with what a t-mobile rep says? I merely posted what I was told via a chat with a rep when I questioned him about their 4G service.
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Yes the hd2 is hardware limited to 7.2 Mbs but since hspa+ is backwards compatible T-Mobile's "4g" network will make a difference to you connection... Idk what the Rep you talked to was talking about but frankly he's f.o.s (full of $#!+).. the hardware radio is limitation!!!
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Yes the hd2 is hardware limited to 7.2 Mbs but since hspa+ is backwards compatible T-Mobile's "4g" network will make a difference to you connection... Idk what the Rep you talked to was talking about but frankly he's f.o.s (full of $#!+).. the hardware radio is limitation!!!
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Thats what i figured. I know when HSPA came out, it was "labeled as 4G speed" but called HSPA. Maybe that is what he was confused about since now Tmobile is trying to actually have a true 4G network. Who knows. HSPA is good for me now anyway.
after the 3.14 update they'll release one that's 4.0 meaning 4g and the hd2 will then have 4g ....lol
What a douchebag, I hate phoneshops, most of them would tell you everything you want to here, just to let you buy one. When I went for my hd2, I had to buy a display model because there were none left, and the guy behind the desk had one too, an hd2. With a cooked rom. I asked to run the phones init process before taking it home, and it got stuck at sim recognising, we tried multiple simcards, everything failed, that guy was also a douche, he said immediatly, sold is sold. Maybe he tried to customise his hd2 and when it failed, he swapped it with the store display model. Luckely for my another employee overthere said he couldn't make it, if it was up to the first seller, I had to send it to repair,that dumb prick. The other one gave me a cheque to buy it in another store, where I asked the same thing, point is, always try before you buy, and insist, you are customer, and king.
Im not too familiar with all this phone junk... I mean when you guys are saying its a hardware issue, to me it sounds like you guys are saying a Dell c600 oldschool laptop only being able to run on dial up... DSL outta the question... hahaha...
i do believe it is probably a software issue, but i havent researched it much...
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Im not too familiar with all this phone junk... I mean when you guys are saying its a hardware issue, to me it sounds like you guys are saying a Dell c600 oldschool laptop only being able to run on dial up... DSL outta the question... hahaha...
i do believe it is probably a software issue, but i havent researched it much...
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It is not a software issue. If it were, there would be no need for advertising "4G" phones, would there?
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Im not too familiar with all this phone junk... I mean when you guys are saying its a hardware issue, to me it sounds like you guys are saying a Dell c600 oldschool laptop only being able to run on dial up... DSL outta the question... hahaha...
i do believe it is probably a software issue, but i havent researched it much...
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You have to research that a phone isn't like a laptop, lol...
Even in a smartest of smartphones you can not change the radio module, like adding a modem in the cheapest laptop, different class of gadgets.
HSPA+
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Yes the hd2 is hardware limited to 7.2 Mbs but since hspa+ is backwards compatible T-Mobile's "4g" network will make a difference to you connection... Idk what the Rep you talked to was talking about but frankly he's f.o.s (full of $#!+).. the hardware radio is limitation!!!
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so did your statement about hspa+ mean that the phone takes full advantage of the bandwidth available in hspa without any software mods?
T-Mobile doesn't even have real 4G. Hell, they don't even hardly have 3G where they say they do, let alone the "largest 4G network in America"
What a load of crap.
No, our totally awesome HD2's will not run 4G speeds, unless you know some sort of black magic or voodoo.
HSPA + uses the same frequency as the 3G one.. so even though its the same AWS band the hardware must be able to reach the Max speed avaible... it would be like having a 1Gig/s line but it only reaching 100mbs since that's the hardware limit... Now in some cases hardware is capable of more but limited by the firmware.. take for instance wimax modules, there capable of LTE but don't have the supported software...
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It is very likely they were referring to 3.5G (H) instead of 4G.
Actually T-Mobile does not really have 4G yet that could be comparable to Verizon for instance... yes, it is fast on Galaxy phones but overall it is just fast fast connection... 3.75G I guess ... however, my HD2 works on 3.5G (H) connection just fine and I am subscribed to 4G 200MB plan for $10...
Will HD2 work on real 4G... cmon man don't make me loose calories by typing what 1300 threads already state... NOT HAPPENING!
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It is not a software issue. If it were, there would be no need for advertising "4G" phones, would there?
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I'm not commenting on whether 4G is possible or not on the HD2, but rather on your comment above.
They advertise Android phones don't they, yet that's possible on the HD2. They advertise WM7 phones, yet the HD2 can do that too. I know a lot of things on the HD2 were said to be impossible and later it was proved possible either through software changes or even just enabling a registry setting. Cell companies limit features of phones all the time by not including certain software or not enabling certain features as a way of differentiating phones. So as far as your comment goes, it means absolutely nothing.
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I'm not commenting on whether 4G is possible or not on the HD2, but rather on your comment above.
They advertise Android phones don't they, yet that's possible on the HD2. They advertise WM7 phones, yet the HD2 can do that too. I know a lot of things on the HD2 were said to be impossible and later it was proved possible either through software changes or even just enabling a registry setting. Cell companies limit features of phones all the time by not including certain software or not enabling certain features as a way of differentiating phones. So as far as your comment goes, it means absolutely nothing.
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Oh really? Look up the details on the QSD8250.
QSD8250: GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA, MBMS
MSM7230 (the FIRST 4G capable processor/radio): GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+, MBMS
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Sweet. I think on my HTC g2 never hit that
HTC HD2 updated .zip rom EVO 4G (not working. no problem...)
Doesn't matter if 4G network not works onto HTC HD2,because when more people buying a 4G phone than they are using 4G network and after few months (maybe) year than 3G is also faster as before. 3G networks can used and functionally better onto internet whitout changed when 3G is full than you automatically down to almost historic G networks. When time is there i sell a new smartphone with 4G,but my old HTC HD2 is ever working (when it rains and not rains). I like this crazy phone. Unbeleaveble
HD2 doesn't run on 4G
I know I know, "CDMA is not for international use" etc, etc. I am aware.
Still, although it isnt probable - it is not necessarily imposible! And thats what I am banking on
Long story short, I need to travel soon and I dropped my xoom the morning I was going to return it (no need to remind how stupid that was, i havent forgotten yet...) Anyway everything is fine with the tablet except the aluminum body got two minor marks on the edge. Now best buy wont accept it back.
I love everything about the tablet except that I wont be able to get mobile data overseas. The country I am going to has CDMA networks but how can i get verizon to release me from their clutches? I didnt register a data plan with Vz but as i understand I am still at their disposal in terms of wireless service. Anyone have any experience getting any CDMA device unlocked (particularly with Vz)? Can you point me in any direction?
I am willing to do it "legally" through them (if they will even allow it), or through a hack, or any other method. Just let me know whats possible.
I wasnt sure about my travel plans and my Grandmother had been asking to get me gift - end result is I have a perfectly good Xoom I cant return and cant use overseas.
(Just for the record I HATE THE IDEA OF BUYING A DEVICE LOCKED TO A PARTICULAR COMPANY. I never bought a CDMA device for this reason, first time I did and it bit me in the @$$ immediately)
It isn't that it's locked to a company, it's to a technology. Europe uses a different standard. It's like trying to plug a US power socket into a European power socket, it ain't gonna happen! There aren't any "converters" for this. You would be better off getting a mobile hotspot once you're there and connecting via WiFi.
If it was with at&t or tmobile it would be a different story, though I'm not sure the data would work on 3g, it would be 1g (I think).
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It isn't that it's locked to a company, it's to a technology. Europe uses a different standard. It's like trying to plug a US power socket into a European power socket, it ain't gonna happen! There aren't any "converters" for this. You would be better off getting a mobile hotspot once you're there and connecting via WiFi.
If it was with at&t or tmobile it would be a different story, though I'm not sure the data would work on 3g, it would be 1g (I think).
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Thats true, i didnt think about a mobile hotspot. Although I had remembered that I can tether to my cell phone (then I entirely forgot again in the frustration of not being able to return the Xoom )
Anyway I am aware that GSM and CDMA are different standards, but the country I am going to has at least two CDMA carriers that I am aware of. Admittedly I dont know much about CDMA networks but I know my friend had a phone from Sprint that he was able to use overseas after they permitted it.
I still got my fingers crossed...
Phones typically have an unlock code that enables you to use them on other networks. It works for att and tmobile since you don't have to activate the device (just swap sim cards) but getting Verizon to activate a sprint device is nearly impossible.
That said, I don't even know if the Xoom is completely locked to Verizon in the same way. The issue will be provisioning the device for another network with cdma. Either way it's probably not worth the effort.
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The radio is a plug and play Module, if you get your hands on the right one and flash the right ROM, could work, but first thing first .. wait for the release
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The radio is a plug and play Module, if you get your hands on the right one and flash the right ROM, could work, but first thing first .. wait for the release
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Sorry for being such a layman and a noob but what exactly are you referring to the release of?
I feel kind of bad having to do all this ranting and not knowing entirely what I am talking about, so I hope you'll excuse me.
Technology, you can use xoom and connect cdma EvDO network outsea.
You need change ESN、IMSI、AKEY、SID、NID to register xoom on the other CDMA network and make phone call. You also need change AN、AAA to using EvDO service then you can get 3G network link。
The most difficult thing you need to do is getting the AKEY and AAA，which is controled by service provider that you want to connect.
To write ESN、IMSI、AKEY、SID、NID、AN、AAA， you also need some CDMA crack tools，such as CDMA Workshop、QXDM、QMAT etc.
when you google for "AKEY AAA"， you will get more technical detail.
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Phones typically have an unlock code that enables you to use them on other networks. It works for att and tmobile since you don't have to activate the device (just swap sim cards) but getting Verizon to activate a sprint device is nearly impossible.
That said, I don't even know if the Xoom is completely locked to Verizon in the same way. The issue will be provisioning the device for another network with cdma. Either way it's probably not worth the effort.
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That’s all correct.
I had the same experience with a CDMA device in Germany. That is another reason that I am waiting for the GMS version of the xoom.
Well, I'll admit that I haven't done any research on this, and it's a rumor I heard today.. that the wifi xoom is going to have the sim card slot activated in a future update.. meaning those of us who have the wifi version will be able to drop in a sim card and get 3G data.. anyone able to disprove this? I'm not counting on this, but it would be sweet if it was true.. lol
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Well, I'll admit that I haven't done any research on this, and it's a rumor I heard today.. that the wifi xoom is going to have the sim card slot activated in a future update.. meaning those of us who have the wifi version will be able to drop in a sim card and get 3G data.. anyone able to disprove this? I'm not counting on this, but it would be sweet if it was true.. lol
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1. There would be a lot of pissed off people who paid the extra buck.
2. The hardware isn't there so it'll never happen.
3. Proof? Search for XOOM WIFI tear down.
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
Just because the it has a slot doesn't mean it has the hardware.
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1. There would be a lot of pissed off people who paid the extra buck.
2. The hardware isn't there so it'll never happen.
3. Proof? Search for XOOM WIFI tear down.
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
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I believe someone on this forum found the sim card is functional? just no drivers to use it.
I've never held a doom before but I plan on getting one.
They have similar card slots? And if this is really true... wow Verizon customers got ripped off badly.
Hopefully the sim card slot won't be restricted to any carrier
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I never said I had proof or anything.. It was just a thought.. plus when I look in the slot, I can see contacts in there.. so atleast the socket is there...
Look at the tear down and you will see what we are talking about. There is no connectors on the motherboard for the 4g module, if you are really good you could solder something in and figure out where to get the hardware to connect.
Might as well by the 3g version!
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They have similar card slots? And if this is really true... wow Verizon customers got ripped off badly.
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Christ, the misinformation in this thread ...!
LTE requires a SIM for authentication (whose socket is installed on the board but otherwise unused), and is UNRELATED to the CDMA that the Verizon 3G versions use, which authenticate via the MEID of the 3G radio, which is NOT installed on the WiFi versions.
i read somewhere (maybe here) that whats missing is the radio so without it there is no use
theres a mini pci-e slot maybe we can install 3g radio just like laptops
False info.... do some research before you post a whole thread dedicated to a rumour.
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So anybody heard about the new evo update allowing them to talk and be on the internet at the same time?
Haven't heard anything about that, have been able to do that if using 4G or WiFi.
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It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.
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It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.
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Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
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Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
+1 i hope sprint comes out with this kinda phone
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You could probably do that with groove ip and ur Google number, u would just chew up data opposed u minutes, I have only used this over WiFi, but it should work over 3g also
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bring it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol
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I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol
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I am moderately surprised this hasn't happened yet. Given that we have a wifi chip, an FM receiver, bluetooth, 3G, 4G...some phones have had FM transceivers as well, NFC, etc....
I am not surprised, however, because bandwidth is very limited...we're not talking back-haul, we're talking actual radio wave space....I'm dying to know what breakthrough will come along to alleviate that.
If anyone wonders why your mobile internet sucks it's oversaturation....not of the back-haul line that connects the cells to the backbone but of the very air itself as allocated. There's only so much physical space in them airs. Too may people, not enough frequencies, bands are too narrow, too many things need their own band.
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755.
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HAHA no you didn't. It's a limitation with cdma, you CANNOT use 3g and phone at the same time.
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It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.
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I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.
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Exactly why WiMaxx 4G was established, to enable that capability.
GSM is only able to achieve this because they have HSPA for the data side if i'm not mistaken.
Sprints already in the works on switching to LTE 4G, I wonder if they can just make it a hybrid WiMaxx/LTE network and have a radio capable of using either...
So when Sprint switches to LTE, will the current 4G phones work still?
There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.
bkrodgers said:
There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.
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Yeah I heard about this on Verizon side
And about 4G working after LTE deploy most likely unless they upgrade you for a free LTE device or a lawsuit lol
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runcool said:
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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No, it is a huge limitation with cdma. Sprint isn't the only one with this limitation.
The tbolt is the only Verizon phone to offer it. It has svdo (?.) Technology. We wont be able to do it with an update.