i have a unlocked hd2 using AT&T i know they say it wont get 3g unless i bought the australian version but every once a and a while it will get 3g for 20 sec to a minute or so am i the only one experiencing this
That sucks, I was hoping to be able to move this to AT&T eventually. There's no point if there's no 3G though.
AT&T and T-Mobile uses different 3G bands. There is no way you will ever get AT&T 3G on a T-Mobile 3G phone.
to get a hd2 that can get at&ts 3g you have to buy hd2 t9193 thats an australian phone
OHHH NOOO!
CRAP! This is what I get for not doing my research properly. I have been absolutely HATING T-Mobiles network, I can go anywhere with my Tilt 2 and HD2 and the Tilt 2 ALWAYS has better reception and better G connections. T-Mobile is rolling out this new "Ultra G" but even if the speed hype is true, I seriously doubt that the COVERAGE will improve. And their coverage SUCKS! Ahh, but I love the HD2... Plan was, as others said, to move back to AT&T eventually, using this phone. NOW what do I do. Find an Aussie that wants to Trade?
no one will want to trade i recommend you sell yours craigslist or how ever then jump to eBay buy one from Australia cause if you bid on one of those t9193's that are here in the us expect to pay close to 800 if you buy from Australia you'll spend a little under 700
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i have a unlocked hd2 using AT&T i know they say it wont get 3g unless i bought the australian version but every once a and a while it will get 3g for 20 sec to a minute or so am i the only one experiencing this
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I too have noticed this. Especially on the northern side of the DC area. I've driven through and each time I get the 3G symbol for a little bit and then it drops out. So you're not crazy or anything else. I'm glad you shared this because I was wondering also.
makes me think that some type for software would enable AT&Ts 3g on the US hd2
I wonder also if they have the 850 mghz one in their supply chain and don't know it or don't care and have released them. I'm heading back the same way again this week, so I'll keep my eyes on my phone. I wish there was a way to tell what chip it is and what bands it will pick up.
They couldn't "just release" or enable cross-band functionality like that without clearing with the FCC first, and that hasn't happened. When the HD2 first received it's license it was certified to exclusively work on the bands specified, and AT&T's were not among those. And, even if you were able to "hack" it to work, you'd likely be violating the law.
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They couldn't "just release" or enable cross-band functionality like that without clearing with the FCC first, and that hasn't happened. When the HD2 first received it's license it was certified to exclusively work on the bands specified, and AT&T's were not among those. And, even if you were able to "hack" it to work, you'd likely be violating the law.
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and apple say jailbreaking there devices is violating the law too right. thats never stopped people from using there talent before
memphis550 said:
and apple say jailbreaking there devices is violating the law too right. thats never stopped people from using there talent before
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I guess but it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison because you don't have to defy the laws of physics to jailbreak an iphone...but you would have to do just that to get the HD2 to work on AT&T's 3G bands.
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I guess but it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison because you don't have to defy the laws of physics to jailbreak an iphone...but you would have to do just that to get the HD2 to work on AT&T's 3G bands.
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well if you remember the first iphone jailbreak hats off to GEOHOT was a hardware and software jailbreak. i my search how to make my hd2 get 3g on AT&T i want to know what do you think if i'm to buy a 3g antenna from htc.au and replace that with my 3g antenna what do you think
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I have a magic (from rogers, so it works on At&t 3g) but I really really wanna get on board with the Nexus.
I am in NJ so TMo says 3g coverage is good, but i am just skeptical.
plus i have a family plan on at&t, wife uses iphone, doubt i could talk her into giving it up...
anyone gonna use the nexus on at&t and go without 3g???
I will be replacing my iphone with the nexus tomorrow when the n1 arrives. Because of how awful 3g is in my area (live in seattle work in redmond) I have been using edge almost exclusively. Funnily enough, my dropped calls have ceased after the 3g=>edge move. Go figure
I plan to keep my iphone handy and see just how painful the n1 is without the ability to attempt 3g if I really want it or need it (maps come to mind and so does pandora though both have been acceptable on edge thus far).
Perhaps I can call ATT and have them remove 3g from my account saving me some money each month.
I'm going to try it out on AT&T to see if/(how much) I miss 3g. If I can't get along without it, I'll just switch to T-Mobile. I live in Dallas so both AT&T and T-Mobile have full coverage.
For me, the people I talk to the most are on ATT and it would cost me more to continue my phone habits on a different provider than to just stick with ATT. Moving back to T-Mobile is not an option at this point. I really do wish I had kept my G1 when I made that move
yeah, i was thinking the same thing, just try my non-3g life out and go from there.....at least i'm not alone!
like you said, i have a family / friends all on att, so i might cost more if i were on tmo now...
thakns for input, good luck to us!
I have a g1 & mytouch on at&t just unlocked it. i dont mind having 2G only cuz my battery life is increased and when i get home i have wifi so i just attach to it to get better speeds.. i plan on getting the nexus one when i have the money for it. i didnt know the rogers phones are at&T compatible. anyone wanna sell or trade devices? PM ME
thanks
I hated having my iPhone on Tmobile, no 3G kinda killed the use of an iPhone, the call quality wasn't that great, and though it was handy, it was a bit annoying knowing that I had no 3G. I sold it for $370, used that money to buy a N1 :]
I have an xperia X1a.... and am probably going to buy a nexus.. I"m tired of people w/ cheap, crappy phones having way better internet speed than me.
BUT.. I will make sure that X10 really isn't tmo 3g compatible.
WHy won't the n1 get 3G- any idea when they might change that?
well, the n1 doesn't have the 850 mhz frequency that att runs there 3g on.
the n1 is coming to verizon in the spring and will have 3g......i honestly don't think n1 will ever get to att, especially since google is obviously battling with iphone.....
i really would love the n1, but i honestly don't know i could give up my magic with 3g on ATT......i was just downloading at 1600 kb/sec....pretty damn fast.
the 2g speed is only like 180 kb/sec.
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well, the n1 doesn't have the 850 mhz frequency that att runs there 3g on.
the n1 is coming to verizon in the spring and will have 3g......i honestly don't think n1 will ever get to att, especially since google is obviously battling with iphone.....
i really would love the n1, but i honestly don't know i could give up my magic with 3g on ATT......i was just downloading at 1600 kb/sec....pretty damn fast.
the 2g speed is only like 180 kb/sec.
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I was just downloading at over 4100kbps on T-mobile.
I just ordered my Nexus One Superphone. Im planning on selling my HTC Magic unlocked A6161 32A with Hero Sense UI.
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wow! really?? OK....well, my decision is pretty easy then....bye bye ATT......
hello N1!
No AT&T 3G means no Nexus One for me. So my only hope now is that HTC releases their own branded version with Sense (which I would have wanted anyway) shortly after the hype blows over.
If the Acer A1 hits in the meantime, I'm going to get that I guess. No way in hell I'm switching to T-Mobile for any reason. They have zero coverage where I live and no roaming agreements with AT&T (I live in a Chicago suburb). But in areas where they do work, friends aren't getting 3G and 1/2 the time they aren't even getting EDGE!
Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
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wow! really?? OK....well, my decision is pretty easy then....bye bye ATT......
hello N1!
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T-mo flipped the switch on their 7.2mbps 3G today. I'm sure it was planned to coincide with the N1 release, lol... anyway, T-mo is now the fastest GSM 3G in the U.S., right?
Edit: Just came across this article: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/atandt-kicks-it-into-overdrive-rolls-out-7-2mbps-everywhere-bu/
Seems that AT&T now has a fire under its ass to follow suit. They too are speeding up their upgrade to 7.2mbps, but they won't have the backbone up to speed for a while apparently.
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Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
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Winmo over Android? Really!?! For Microsoft's sake I hope you're right, but I think it's highly unlikely that WM7 will be enough to make Windows a plausible mobile platform. I've been in the wireless industry for a few years and Windows Mobile has, for just as long, been a last resort for anyone but the most diehard Windows fanatic(you?).
I do however agree that it's a win for those of us on T-Mobile. That make's five Android devices to choose from! And for the record I'll be picking up a Nexus One as soon as they start offering it with the employee discount!
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No AT&T 3G means no Nexus One for me. So my only hope now is that HTC releases their own branded version with Sense (which I would have wanted anyway) shortly after the hype blows over.
If the Acer A1 hits in the meantime, I'm going to get that I guess. No way in hell I'm switching to T-Mobile for any reason. They have zero coverage where I live and no roaming agreements with AT&T (I live in a Chicago suburb). But in areas where they do work, friends aren't getting 3G and 1/2 the time they aren't even getting EDGE!
Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
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Seriously man... blame AT&T and Apple for their internal agreements. It's because of the iPhone that AT&T isn't allowed to bring in any products that would cannibalize sales of the iPhone. Once exclusivity expires... Android devices will storm AT&T as well.
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Seriously man... blame AT&T and Apple for their internal agreements. It's because of the iPhone that AT&T isn't allowed to bring in any products that would cannibalize sales of the iPhone. Once exclusivity expires... Android devices will storm AT&T as well.
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http://gizmodo.com/5441632/atts-first-android-phones-five-from-motorola-dell-and-htc
deprecate said:
http://gizmodo.com/5441632/atts-first-android-phones-five-from-motorola-dell-and-htc
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It feels good to be right.
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It feels good to be right.
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So apparently Google is coming out with a N1.5 with 3G Band I (2100Mhz), II (1900Mz) and V (850Mhz), versus the N1 Bands I (2100Mhz), IV (1700Mhz) and VIII (900Mhz).
I do not understand why Google's flagship HTC handset doesn't support every frequency and they (whomever "they" may be) simply enable/disable in software?!
Anyway, I guess this means N1.5 will work on AT&T 3G.
Any insider tracking the Google release date for the AT&T capable Nexus?
Care to share an actual source?
Refering to this i assume.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/01/nexus_one_on_att_3g/
Yeah, I saw this a long time ago. There was an article on cnet.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-10444986-266.html
lpasq said:
I do not understand why Google's flagship HTC handset doesn't support every frequency and they (whomever "they" may be) simply enable/disable in software?!
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The hardware does not exist for any radio to include all 6 3G frequencies.
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The hardware does not exist for any radio to include all 6 3G frequencies.
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i thought the bb9700 supports all? http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...-blackberrys-3g-bands-are-no-longer-relevant/
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Care to share an actual source?
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no official source. just internet surfing and that's why i am asking here to hear if anyone has update info... like maybe a google or htc spy
I was told by my AT&T representative for the SE region of RS that the phone is ready and is being tested to meet AT&T specs for speed on not only 3G but the upgraded HSPA networks. They however did not specify a date other than 2010 for the AT&T version. Soooo.... we shall see, normally they are right with the products coming to the market, like the Moto backflip which I knew personally was going to AT&T over a year ago.
-Charlie
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I was told by my AT&T representative for the SE region of RS that the phone is ready and is being tested to meet AT&T specs for speed on not only 3G but the upgraded HSPA networks. They however did not specify a date other than 2010 for the AT&T version. Soooo.... we shall see, normally they are right with the products coming to the market, like the Moto backflip which I knew personally was going to AT&T over a year ago.
-Charlie
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Did you know they would cripple the Backflip into a piece of **** a year ago too?
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Did you know they would cripple the Backflip into a piece of **** a year ago too?
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LOL this I didn't, being an avid android lover from day one my AT&T rep got to know me because of the question when we would get an android device.
But AT&T being the best service in my area I can't wait for this!
-Charlie
dahui9: thanks for sharing what you heard
There is no chipset/antenna design that supports all UMTS bands at the same time. The bgr was just wrong, there are two distinct bb9700: one for t-mobile and one for att.
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Did you know they would cripple the Backflip into a piece of **** a year ago too?
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Yeah, that is a sad excuse of an Android phone. ATT is going the way of the big V. No open access to an open source project.
Just stupid if you ask me.
ryan22158 said:
Yeah, that is a sad excuse of an Android phone. ATT is going the way of the big V. No open access to an open source project.
Just stupid if you ask me.
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I wonder what they are going to do to the nexus..remove the unlockable bootloader perhaps? I also wonder if Verizon is going to do the same...
Being on ATT with a nexus one, I really do want to be excited by this news as I am tired of being on edge (thankfully I have wifi available most of the time), but I am concerned about the lengths ATT will go to after seeing what they pulled with the backflip.
I will just sit and wait and watch. Worst case scenario, my cell contract will run dry next year and if ATT buggers up the nexus I can always migrate to TMO with a new contract...best case scenario...I can sell my current nexus to offset the cost of a new one that will take advantage of ATT's 3g...hopefully by then all those dreaded iphones will have moved on reducing the dropped call rate and slow 3g found in my area (seattle).
Two changes needed to support different 3G bands:
1. Antenna
2. Baseband firmware
Volker1 said:
There is no chipset/antenna design that supports all UMTS bands at the same time. The bgr was just wrong, there are two distinct bb9700: one for t-mobile and one for att.
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oh. i get it know. thanks volker1
deprecate said:
I wonder what they are going to do to the nexus..remove the unlockable bootloader perhaps? I also wonder if Verizon is going to do the same...
Being on ATT with a nexus one, I really do want to be excited by this news as I am tired of being on edge (thankfully I have wifi available most of the time), but I am concerned about the lengths ATT will go to after seeing what they pulled with the backflip.
I will just sit and wait and watch. Worst case scenario, my cell contract will run dry next year and if ATT buggers up the nexus I can always migrate to TMO with a new contract...best case scenario...I can sell my current nexus to offset the cost of a new one that will take advantage of ATT's 3g...hopefully by then all those dreaded iphones will have moved on reducing the dropped call rate and slow 3g found in my area (seattle).
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deprecate: i feel your pain. i wore out my tilt waiting for tilt2...got tired of waiting after device released on other carriers first...and ordered a rogers magic in frustration. now i wonder if google saves us all by selling a google nexus unlocked running att 3g band(s). anyway, i'm an android convert and glad to be. though you lack 3g, you have an awesome device
lpasq said:
oh. i get it know. thanks volker1
deprecate: i feel your pain. i wore out my tilt waiting for tilt2...got tired of waiting after device released on other carriers first...and ordered a rogers magic in frustration. now i wonder if google saves us all by selling a google nexus unlocked running att 3g band(s). anyway, i'm an android convert and glad to be. though you lack 3g, you have an awesome device
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Oh I know it. The moment I got rid of my G1 in favour of an iphone when I swtiched from tmo -> att I knew I made a mistake...
I have zero regrets about having the nexus; here's hoping ATT doesn't get a bug up its arse and handicap an amazing device because they seem to run their company as though they have pants on their heads.
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I just noticed that an AT&T "compatible" phone is now listed in the Google phone page. It looks like a new offering.
"Compatible with 3G on AT&T (U.S.) and Rogers Wireless (Canada) Supports three 3G/UMTS bands (850/1900/2100 MHz) and four GSM radio frequencies (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)"
https://www.google.com/phone/choose?hl=en&gl=US&s7e=
tamanaco said:
I just noticed that an AT&T "compatible" phone is now listed in the Google phone page. It looks like a new offering.
"Compatible with 3G on AT&T (U.S.) and Rogers Wireless (Canada) Supports three 3G/UMTS bands (850/1900/2100 MHz) and four GSM radio frequencies (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)"
https://www.google.com/phone/choose?hl=en&gl=US&s7e=
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yes go get it!
that was a surprise
mmh no more ip check from Switzerland.. nevertheless, the shipping address is refused..
I find it a bit strange that there has been no announcement from AT&T. Is Google introducing this phone without AT&T's blessing?... Is this a continuation of the Google (N1) and Apple (iPhone) battle?... In other words Apple attacks HTC and Google retaliates by attacking the exclusive supplier of iPhones.
I wonder if the at&t nexus one will have any minor differences from the tmobile other than the antenna.
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I find it a bit strange that there has been no announcement from AT&T. Is Google introducing this phone without AT&T's blessing?... Is this a continuation of the Google (N1) and Apple (iPhone) battle?... In other words Apple attacks HTC and Google retaliates by attacking the exclusive supplier of iPhones.
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Google will only help AT&T by doing this.
tamanaco said:
I find it a bit strange that there has been no announcement from AT&T. Is Google introducing this phone without AT&T's blessing?... Is this a continuation of the Google (N1) and Apple (iPhone) battle?... In other words Apple attacks HTC and Google retaliates by attacking the exclusive supplier of iPhones.
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I don't think hardware manufactures need carriers "blessings" to create hardware.
Whether the carriers allow the phones is a different story.
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Google will only help AT&T by doing this.
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Agree... but without an "official" announcement from AT&T it might undermine the iPhone. There is nothing in AT&T's Smartphone offerings that really challenges the iPhone because it is AT&T's cash cow. There is no provision in the page to buy a "subsidized" N1 from AT&T... I also find that a bit odd.
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Agree... but without an "official" announcement from AT&T it might undermine the iPhone. There is nothing in AT&T's Smartphone offerings that really challenges the iPhone because it is AT&T's cash cow. There is no provision in the page to buy a "subsidized" N1 from AT&T... I also find that a bit odd.
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I don't imagine they will offer it subsidized. Like you said, the iPhone is their cash cow, why would they (Apple included) allow a better phone to be sold along side their money maker?
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Whether the carriers allow the phones is a different story.
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Exactly... but if AT&T decides to disable a specific device (N1), then somewhere in the plan contract there has to be an stipulation that no "unlocked" phone from an unauthorized vendor is guaranteed service. To be honest, I have not looked at my AT&T Plan contract to find if such wording is in it.
All I know is that I've placed my order for one, and shall be selling my T-Mobile one in the next few days. I was going to wait it out for the new iPhone, but now I can get the best phone that's 3G works on a better network than T-Mobile.
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All I know is that I've placed my order for one, and shall be selling my T-Mobile one in the next few days. I was going to wait it out for the new iPhone, but now I can get the best phone that's 3G works on a better network than T-Mobile.
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Keep us posted... eager to hear anything you have to say about it... I hope you did not opt for the "optional" engraving... I'd delay your reporting.
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All I know is that I've placed my order for one, and shall be selling my T-Mobile one in the next few days. I was going to wait it out for the new iPhone, but now I can get the best phone that's 3G works on a better network than T-Mobile.
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I guess I am going to join you and buy the att nexus then sell the other one
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Keep us posted... eager to hear anything you have to say about it... I hope you did not opt for the "optional" engraving... I'd delay your reporting.
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Nope, I did not opt for the engraving on either one. I like spotless phones. Besides, it also kills the resale value.
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All I know is that I've placed my order for one, and shall be selling my T-Mobile one in the next few days. I was going to wait it out for the new iPhone, but now I can get the best phone that's 3G works on a better network than T-Mobile.
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plus, more expensive than T-Mobile
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plus, more expensive than T-Mobile
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That it is, but after using T-Mobile for a month and not having signal in a majority of the places I frequent, I went back to AT&T, even though it only works on EDGE.
I think this is great news and I'm also surprised that there hasn't been an official AT&T announcement...
damn!
I just had a friend from the US order one for me and I should be getting it Thursday or Friday this week!
Arg! I'm with Rogers and would love the 3G bands... I wonder if I can somehow do a swap??
I would also hope that some of the folks that bought the t-mobile N1 and that are switching to the AT&T model... wait to get their AT&T N1 before selling/canceling their t-mobile N1 and contract. This way we can get a side by side comparison of the two phones. Specifically, I want to know if covering the lower part of an AT&T N1 affects the signal strength in the same way it does a t-mobile N1.
Hi,
i dont want to use t-Mobile but not sure if HD2 can be used in ATT 3G. Is this possible?
Thanks.
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No.
EDGE for AT&T.
No.
You'll need to buy one from Australia.
Look at at&t's 3G bands, and T-Mobile US 3G bands. Then you will understand why. . .
It may have both chips inside. We need dig it to find out.
Damn it Tito, you broke the trend!
my father is a businessman and he has a extra line open on his t-mobile family plan account that no one uses... it doesn't even have a phone ... he keeps it open just in case one of his clients need to use a phone number when they are on business ventures together.. either way.. i'm ATT and personally i love it.. i think ATT is one of the best phone service providers as far as reception and network speeds... customer service is another issue lol... but either way... as a student i'm spending way too much money on my phone bill.. $130 every month for ATT (I pay for it) My father actually wants me to go over to t-mobile and take that free line that he has open...
now my sister who lives in my apartment with me.. she has t-mobile and the reception at home totally sucks... its about 1-3 bars and the call quality isn't even that great... but if i decide to take that line.. that means i no longer have to pay for my phone bill.. which totally rocks... but i can't get over the fact that i'm gonna lose the ability of having full bars everywhere i went... the only reason why i actually decided to go through with it... is the HD2... if the HD2 was exclusively for ATT or something.. i would've just stuck with my 130 monthly bill... the fact that its exclusively for t-mobile makes my decision not as horrible...
yea.. pointless story... but i felt like sharing.. sorry for hijacking thread...
cellneuron said:
It may have both chips inside. We need dig it to find out.
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Interesting. Have anyone tried this?
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Interesting. Have anyone tried this?
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It doesn't. Supported frequencies on the US HD2 are 1700/2100, Euro & Asia spec one is 900/2100, the Telstra one is 850/2100 so that supports ATT 3G, and your only option.
You gotta pay to play.
Looks like #2 and #4 are going to merge. I guess the talk that Sprint might buyout T-Mobile didn't pan out. Looks like they will discontinue those ads where they make fun of AT&T's network.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fiw-att-deutsche-telecom-20110320,0,1733883.story
What does this mean for us?
This is the worst news I've ever heard lol
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What does this mean for us?
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nothing short term, but this could change the face of the u.s. wireless indusry.
also, already being discussed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12242001#post12242001
I definitely think the FCC will prevent it from happening, it would create a GSM monopoly in the US.
why would it matter if it was a gsm monopoly? there are still other carriers regardless, so i dont see it as being a monopoly. you can still buy gsm devices from anywhere and pop yuour sim card in and go if thats what the big deal about gsm is all about.
The problem with a GSM monopoly (or any monopoly really) is that it prevents competition, for instance people who travel frequently and therefore need a GSM handset are left with only one real option (sure there are Verizon and Sprint world phones but that is besides the point)
I blame T-Mobile Girl.
063_XOBX said:
The problem with a GSM monopoly (or any monopoly really) is that it prevents competition, for instance people who travel frequently and therefore need a GSM handset are left with only one real option (sure there are Verizon and Sprint world phones but that is besides the point)
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how does only having one gsm provider in the us prevent competition? there are still several other cell providers in the u.s. the reason you state one needs a gsm handset would be to be able to use it while traveling (im assuming you mean abroad) where you would use a local sim card any way. if your using att's minutes to talk over seas, you can do that with sprint and verizon too. they all have international roaming. not being able to use a phone overseas is not related at all to being a monopoly.
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how does only having one gsm provider in the us prevent competition? there are still several other cell providers in the u.s. the reason you state one needs a gsm handset would be to be able to use it while traveling (im assuming you mean abroad) where you would use a local sim card any way. if your using att's minutes to talk over seas, you can do that with sprint and verizon too. they all have international roaming. not being able to use a phone overseas is not related at all to being a monopoly.
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He's talking about in the broad sense. You had a choice in between AT&T and Tmobile which didn't have the best phones but had fair prices. Now that they're merged people are stuck with the high priced cheap phones without anyother choice for GSM carriers.
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This smells of a monopoly. 3 real major wireless carriers left in the US. It would be like the oil industry. They dont have to buy each other up. They can raise the prices on everyone now and who you going to complain to. They can also slow progress on any new developments in the wireless phone industry. Has anyone given this any thought. Just look at the history of all industry in the United States. There have been monopolies and just a couple of companies left in this country. They always do what they wanted to the consumer.
tmobile had cheap phones? odd and and here i thought half their lineup was android... stupid smartphones...
Alright I think finally there are enough threads on this.
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So who is gonna release Google experience devices now? AT&T? I doubt it.
muyoso said:
So who is gonna release Google experience devices now? AT&T? I doubt it.
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I'm holding out hope Verizon will eventually release even just ONE.
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This is kinda like Intel and AMD. They're the only two major CPU players left. Now if AMD dies off then we'd all be screwed but I doubt it'll ever happen since AMD always have few aces up their sleeve.
Now AT&T bought out T-Mobile will be the only GSM player in this country but this time it's a little different. Far as FCC and SEC are concerned it's not monopoly. We still have choices of different carriers such as AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. I know the latter two don't offer GSM but it doesn't matter much since GSM will eventually be going away and replaced with new standards in a few short years anyway.
Now with so many ticked off T-Mobile users I wouldn't be surprised they will switch to either Verizon or Sprint soon. So basically AT&T just wasted a pileload of cash for nothing. Great business sense they've made. So instead of spending money on improving their network they just buy out the competiton.
AT&T's way of doing things belong in the dinosaurs age and we all know what happened to that.
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So who is gonna release Google experience devices now? AT&T? I doubt it.
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This is where Sprint should step up their game (and many more places) and release a Google dev/experience device.
We are so screwed!!!!
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This is kinda like Intel and AMD. They're the only two major CPU players left. Now if AMD dies off then we'd all be screwed but I doubt it'll ever happen since AMD always have few aces up their sleeve.
Now AT&T bought out T-Mobile will be the only GSM player in this country but this time it's a little different. Far as FCC and SEC are concerned it's not monopoly. We still have choices of different carriers such as AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. I know the latter two don't offer GSM but it doesn't matter much since GSM will eventually be going away and replaced with new standards in a few short years anyway.
Now with so many ticked off T-Mobile users I wouldn't be surprised they will switch to either Verizon or Sprint soon. So basically AT&T just wasted a pileload of cash for nothing. Great business sense they've made. So instead of spending money on improving their network they just buy out the competiton.
AT&T's way of doing things belong in the dinosaurs age and we all know what happened to that.
Darkk
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FCC and SEC won't do anything anyways because our government sold the people out along time ago. I don't think they would even stop a Vezion, Sprint and A.T&T merge however improbable that may seem. They would let it happen. This is really bad news. I was hoping to goto T-mobile if sprint started raising there prices. Maybe that is why A.T&T decided to restrict their internet because if people did decide to change carriers they would be stuck with A.T&T. This is a good move for A.T&T and now they can boost they have the fastest 4G network and Sprint will have the slowest 4G network.
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Now AT&T bought out T-Mobile will be the only GSM player in this country but this time it's a little different. Far as FCC and SEC are concerned it's not monopoly. We still have choices of different carriers such as AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. I know the latter two don't offer GSM but it doesn't matter much since GSM will eventually be going away and replaced with new standards in a few short years anyway.
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Are you sure about that because I was under the impression that non GSM services were the odd ones out?
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