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Has anyone noticed lately that the G1 section has been moving quite slow?

It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)

The lack of anything besides Vanilla 2.X roms here lately is a sign of the G1's retirement setting in fully. We all knew this was coming. As soon as they said 2.X would never be given to non rooted users, it was a big blow dealt. Now that we hardly see any new roms and the recent news of the G1 Blaze being very near to release, I think people are just waiting for the right upgrade to come along. Then the G1 will go to the great phone graveyard.

Blackman778g said:
It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)
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Yeah, ditto, I've noticed the same thing for months now. We G1 users have not been forgotten though, we still have lots of developers who are still working hard for us. I mean, remember a few months ago when we didn't even have fully working eclair roms? Each of which had different broken features, back when OE, CE, and kings AOSP were the best 2.1 roms yet they all lacked camcorder, 3D, etc. Now we have fully functional hardware on froyo roms, We can load custom boot partitions, we can OC way past 528 Mhz, etc.
I have a few ideas to try to implement myself, but I am definately still learning. I just recently installed ubuntu on my main computer (windows sucks lol) and I'm working on building from CM source. Some of my (and other people's) ideas include a reverse ram hack and an OC OV kernel to overclock higher. Wish me luck
Besides, try not to thing about it as how much we have left, but how far we've come. (lol I linked to a song by the same name... listen to it the lyrics are powerful)

Yea. I own a g1 and a mytouch 3g both 32b.. i think i installed mostly every rom for the g1.. now rooting just got boring w. The g1.. i love the phone nd all.. i just dont want to see it go.. after every hack that came out for it.. i have to wait 2 year to get a new android device.. but i kno my g1 will hold up.. still best keyboard/touch screen phone too me..
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Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.

Binary100100 said:
Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.
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Bam, You nailed.. it!

I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.

r3s-rt said:
I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.
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All the original MyTouch was a G1 without a keyboard unless you happen to have a 32a device. The 1.2 was a nice step up, but quickly outdated.

I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.

jamesd86 said:
I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?

jamesd86 said:
I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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Im going to jump in and say YES! Why? Because I am deaf (read hearing impaired, profoundly deaf -- dont call me, nobody will answer, I cant hear you")
I got my first Dream in November 2009. It was because I was sick of the Sidekick and its baked-ness.
December 2009, I rooted the G1 because I quickly got sucked into the rooting forums and wanted to see what it could do.
I have been trying to figure out how to run this phone without phone.apk com.android.phone and Dialer. Its impossible since the telephony part is still tied into the SMS/MMS portions.
My point is...... the telephone part for a hearing user must use about...... say 1GHZ of space. What can this Dream do without all that phone?
I now own 6 Dreams, (1 bought, 5 rescued from the graveyard, all are working beautifully and I have big hopes for them one day) This is not just a phone. Its a beautiful piece of clocked machinery. I believe I will use a G1 until the day I die which will be within 6 decades.
So, instead of sending the G1's to the graveyard how about it

Binary100100 said:
So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?
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No, I want it to run Android(yes, i know its a linux kernel). I want it to play media, navigate/have maps on sd card so i can replace a standalone gps on long trips, I want it utilize any and all apps that it can, games too. And I want it to do all this w/o the telephone parts taking up precious space. I can put google voice/sipdroid on it for voip capabilities.
yeah. I also want to know if the 64 mb of ram that would be wasted on the baseband radio can be recovered.

I would never give up my G1 even though I said that in the first post but... the G1 is just to amazing to me. The current G1 I own has a screen cable issue so the screen constantly turns black when ever you touch the bottom certainly, now I have to use a P.O.S. Sidekick LX 2007 Brown temporarily until Project Emerald or the G1 Blaze. If I could fix the cable I would gladly use this G1 until it dies before I replace it.

Or you could buy a used g1 on craigslist for 75 bucks. hell, if you got friends with android that have upgraded you might be able to score a free one.

I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!

jhunterb18 said:
I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!
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Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "

Blackman778g said:
Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "
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HAHAHA nice I need to try that with some people. Hopefully some Dev's can get Gingerbread on the G1 and then I can make my friend more jealous because he'll probably have to wait till next year to get it on his phone.

It feels so good to have this G1. A device with out dated specs, but with capabilty of anything out there. Hmmmmm maybe if we just swap in a gpu.... we should build G1s.. just like they build computers
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[Q] Soliciting advice so I can make an informed decision.

I will be switching carriers shortly from T-mobile to Verizon and need some input from experienced users. I currently have a Cliq XT it is my is my first and only Android phone and even though it is a nice phone it is severely limited. I want to get something more powerful and up to date. I have decided to either buy a Samsung Fascinate or a Droid X. Can you guys give me some pros and cons from your points of view. I have seen multiple comparisons online but I wanted the opinion of XDA forum members. Thanks! (pardon if this is in the wrong section or has already been asked, its my first post)

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I will be switching carriers shortly from T-mobile to Verizon and need some input from experienced users. I currently have a Cliq XT it is my is my first and only Android phone and even though it is a nice phone it is severely limited. I want to get something more powerful and up to date. I have decided to either buy a Samsung Fascinate or a Droid X. Can you guys give me some pros and cons from your points of view. I have seen multiple comparisons online but I wanted the opinion of XDA forum members. Thanks! (pardon if this is in the wrong section or has already been asked, its my first post)
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I just left T-mo, and I miss my Nexus terribly.
I went with the Fascinate hands down. Better processor, better GPU, better display, easier root, better camera.

I was on the horns of the same dilemma, Droid X or Fascinate.
Background: I figured out that, except for a brief flirtation with a BlackBerry Storm, the last six phones I've had were all made by Motorola. The term "Motorola Fanboy" sounds really, really strange, but I guess that's what I was... I pre-ordered the Droid 1, and got it on release day, had it rooted the day the root process broke. There's more, but you see where this is going.
When the Droid X was announced, I asked "Where do I put my money?" Then I heard a frightening term: "E-fuse". Of course, that turned out to be something of an exaggeration, but the idea was troubling. This was followed by "Locked Bootloader".
With all this, I still wanted one, but I wanted to actually hold one before I plunked down my cash. I'm still waiting. My local VZW store, Best Buy, Costco, you name it, gets a couple in once or twice a month, and they're gone by lunchtime. I just looked at the VZW site, and right now they're saying the estimated ship date if you order today is the 24th.
So between being locked up and unavailable (okay, I'm being impatient here), I decided to go a different direction.
I pre-ordered my Fascinate, got it on release day, and had it rooted within 90 minutes (20 of which were confirming that the root was persistent). Less than two weeks later, we're on the verge of a custom recovery
This thing is SUPER light, and WAFER thin! It doesn't have that bulge on the back like the DX does. I also agree with the description that the SF is "Just the right size". My neighbor has an EVO, and I think phones of that size are actually a little too bulky.
Don't listen to much about the things people are complaining about with the Fascinate. Every new handset gets some of that, and it all gets worked out in the first few weeks.
The ideal thing, of course, would be to hold them both, one after the other, and see which one gives you the bigger smile. I tried to do that, but wasn't able to. It's hard to imagine the DX would make me happier than the Fascinate though...
And, of course, the universal disclaimer, YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY!
You're not going to go wrong either way, btw...
-Z

watch this: http://vodpod.com/watch/4468715-episode-18-samsung-fascinate-galaxy-s-vs-motorola-droid-x
yes, its 14 or 15 min but worth the watch if your considering the fascinate or the X.

Fascinate. End of discussion.
-Via Fascinate Courtesy Of Tapatalk

Thanks guys
Thanx for all of your responses! From what I have seen and what you guys are saying the Fascinate sounds like the better device. I just have a few doubts... Mainly the GPS issues, Bing, and the fact that I don't trust Samsung when it comes to updates.

This thread has also helped push me towards the fascinate... I always thought the droid x was too big anyway.
But now I'm mostly concerned about the GPS just like the OP... The update thing is unsettling too... I would hope they plan on putting gingerbread on these phones :O
Sent from my Droid Incredible running SkyRaider Vanilla 3.0

Dude get the Fascinate. I went from a Nexus, to the Evo and just came from a D2. I'm completely impressed. The battery has barely moved 1.5 hrs into my 1st day of use. The Evo gave me HELL had every ROM and could never get the out of box comfort and ease I've had so far.
Only things are the bottom buttons, I have 1 bar less of service in my house..haven't tested gps yet but these are all things I can live with and we're only on 2.1. Get it.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App & yes I'm a chick.

from what i have read it seems the GPS issue is hit or miss. thats not going to stop me from getting one. if the GPS doesnt work i will just keep exchanging them till i get one that does. of course it could just be a software issue but i think its to early to tell just yet.

Motorola + eFuse is the only issue you need to think about
Currently it hasn't been cracked, so if you want to install custom kernels, bootloaders, etc, I suggest you run far away from anything with the name Motorola
Not to mention the Hummingbird cpu/gpu blows TI's OMAP out of the water, as well as the SAMOLED screen
The only plus you get out of the X is .3" larger screen and HDMI out, which I'm sure we will get in a few months

"& yes I'm a chick"
LMAO, I love it!

My only qualm with the Fascinate is the bloat-ware. It's chocked full of it. I think it's to differentiate it from their Droid line.
You can easily circumvent it by starting with a launcher like ADW or LauncherPro and starting there.
Once you root, there's many more options. I would recommend staying away from the lagfix. You'll read more about it, but stay away from that one. It makes your phone act a little jerky which my phone actually has yet to recover from.
Other than that, it's awesome. You'll prefer it over the Droid X when the custom roms start coming out for it!
And it's super light, slim, and pretty sleek for a 4" screen phone.

From n1 to g2 and back. Anyone else?

So I've had my n1 (two actually, claimed insurance on first one cuz I accidentally smashed it) since its release. Got the g2 on oct4 (west coast early store sell) and today I've decided to return the g2.
I love the keyboard but I'm faster on my nexus one with smart keyboard pro. Battery life is better on my nexus (I think fixed in ota). The g2 did feel snappier overall even with a stock rom, and browsing was in a different league!
Don't get me wrong the g2 is better in every way but not much better. Not enough to warrant $499+tax. If I was upgrading from g1 with full $200 upgrade yes.
I also kept posting my n1 on Craigslist with the dock and kept blowing off buyers. Somehow I could not part with my nexus. I guess I love this phone TOO much. Anyone else have a similar story?
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I cheated on my Nexus One with an Hd2 when I thought I could use Android on it... Boy was that a huge mistake!
I def learned my lesson, no more non-developer phones... EVER!!!
Nexus One is the perfect phone for me. It does everything I need perfectly:
- Google Maps Navigation
- Free tethering
- Instant Google Voice text msg notifications
- Free unlimited calls through gizmo/google voice
- Emulators + Bluetooth wiimote support
- DolphinHD browser
- Color trackball notifications
- Voice dictation
- Great Tmobile / HTC customer service
- Updates directly from Google
- Beautiful thin design that doesn't make me look like I have an erection in my front pocket due to a unnecessary hardware keyboard

southeastbeast said:
So I've had my n1 (two actually, claimed insurance on first one cuz I accidentally smashed it) since its release. Got the g2 on oct4 (west coast early store sell) and today I've decided to return the g2.
I love the keyboard but I'm faster on my nexus one with smart keyboard pro. Battery life is better on my nexus (I think fixed in ota). The g2 did feel snappier overall even with a stock rom, and browsing was in a different league!
Don't get me wrong the g2 is better in every way but not much better. Not enough to warrant $499+tax. If I was upgrading from g1 with full $200 upgrade yes.
I also kept posting my n1 on Craigslist with the dock and kept blowing off buyers. Somehow I could not part with my nexus. I guess I love this phone TOO much. Anyone else have a similar story?
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I did the exact same thing, paid the full 500 and everything. Had my nexus one from march till now, it's been REAL good to me. Got the G2 Oct 6 and returned it today. Definitely nothing wrong with it but like you said, i feel it's not much better, but it's really a nice phone(build quality and everything), on par with the N1. The lady said they wanted to bring the nexus one in-store since so many people ask for it, but its a no go..definitely luv my Nexus One.

Us n1s are rare now... I got phone jealousy from the vibrant but not anymore. I thought the iphone 4 would give me a little tug seeing as I use to be 3gs user.. But I walked in the store picked it up, laughed, and walked away... Compare a picture on the two lol
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I thought about going to a galaxys, for the gpu jump. But I wasn't convinced (still not), that it was worth the effort.
For me, there's no real upgrade options until dual-core.

Why you'd sell a phone that its software are in the mature stage for something new?
I bought a vibrant just to play around and the phone sucks, i mean hardware is great but when you look at the dev's forum for the phone you hardly find anything. Only fixes and half baked roms, however the fault is not the community but samsung for being slow and asshats about releasing updates for their phones.
From now on i'd get a phone may be 5 or 6 months after its initial release because i can see how the software has matured for the phone as well as a considerable drop in price.
To me android is a worthless operating system fresh from the carriers because is just full of bloat and limitations, without the community android would be just another big FAIL imo.
So going back to the G2 i think is still too early, while n1 owners enjoy the software stability and new releases, the G2 owners still wait for propper root or samsung galaxy s owners are waiting for 2.2 which is sad.

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Why you'd sell a phone that its software are in the mature stage for something new?
I bought a vibrant just to play around and the phone sucks, i mean hardware is great but when you look at the dev's forum for the phone you hardly find anything. Only fixes and half baked roms, however the fault is not the community but samsung for being slow and asshats about releasing updates for their phones.
From now on i'd get a phone may be 5 or 6 months after its initial release because i can see how the software has matured for the phone as well as a considerable drop in price.
To me android is a worthless operating system fresh from the carriers because is just full of bloat and limitations, without the community android would be just another big FAIL imo.
So going back to the G2 i think is still too early, while n1 owners enjoy the software stability and new releases, the G2 owners still wait for propper root or samsung galaxy s owners are waiting for 2.2 which is sad.
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I agree with how people should wait a few months AFTER the phone is released to think about purchasing. Heck, that's true for ALL electronics. Let the other guys discover all the potential problems and then I'll decide if it's worth it. In the case of my N1... 100% worth it.

You lot disappoint me. I would never cheat on my nexus.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.

I have thought about switching the G2 countless times, but in the end, I just couldnt justify the 500+ for the G2 or leaving my N1.
The G2 is really an updated N1, but the added bulk of the physical keyboard really turned me off. I am going to wait til there is something like the N1 with a 4 inch+ screen.

No point in a G2 unless you want the keyboard.
I tested it out in store and was massively disappointed. I'm faster with Swype.
Not only that but with people reporting hinge problems... Blech. Even if you don't have hinge problems, the added mechanism as opposed to a slate device means more room for hardware issues/failure 6+ months into owning the phone. A slate phone means as long as you don't drop it, no hardware will break.
Also I tested an embedded Flash video in the browser and it stuttered just like my N1. I guess I'll have to wait until the 3rd gen Adreno GPUs (220) to make an upgrade on that front.

Returned mine in 2days

Can someone post experience on hd2 running android? I'm thinking of doing this because I want the 4.3 screen. I have friend that use hd2 with android but couldn't compare to n1 since he doesn't have it.

zizoty said:
Can someone post experience on hd2 running android? I'm thinking of doing this because I want the 4.3 screen. I have friend that use hd2 with android but couldn't compare to n1 since he doesn't have it.
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http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/...uld-i-have-ever-cheated-my-nexus-one-hd2.html
My opinion... DONT do it. After using a Nexus One for so long I can honestly tell you the Hd2 runs android like crap.

ChongoDroid said:
Us n1s are rare now... I got phone jealousy from the vibrant but not anymore. I thought the iphone 4 would give me a little tug seeing as I use to be 3gs user.. But I walked in the store picked it up, laughed, and walked away... Compare a picture on the two lol
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I too was shockingly unimpressed by the iPhone 4....good phone, sure...but sea of icons? nah...I need my widgets and uber customization....another reason I can't see myself going WinPho 7 despite the fact that I REALLY like the look of it.

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I too was shockingly unimpressed by the iPhone 4....good phone, sure...but sea of icons? nah...I need my widgets and uber customization....another reason I can't see myself going WinPho 7 despite the fact that I REALLY like the look of it.
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You can not go from an Android to Iphone especially if you've never used an Iphone. You can go from iphone to android though. The reason why is you take things forgranted with Android that Iphone doesn't do, simple things such as ring tones and alerts sounds.
To original topic the N1 rules, g2 drools

I have my Nexus One sitting proudly on my desk sitting in it's dock playing music channeled into my boss stereo. It sounds freaken fantastic. I also went out and bought the G2 thinking I was missing out on something new and fresh. The only thing I see that is a major plus is the memory. I rarely use the keyboard, use Vlingo for just about all entries into both devices. I'm going to probably keep the G2 but will never give my Nexus One away.. I honestly have not seen a better looking, quality built phone. The extras that you can buy for it and the endless tinkering that you can do. Yep, I love that damn phone, sorry honey go to bed, the Nexus and I are up doing some tinkering.

You guys just made my day with your comments about the N1 ! I ordered one a few days ago - it is unfortunately B/O and I should get it in a few days.
I was also considering the Samsung Galaxy X and I am glad I chose the N1. Froyo was released for the Galaxy yesterday - after a long wait to get the latest version of Android, the users quickly found that the major GPS and lag problems are still present. Beautiful specs on paper... on paper only !

Wow
I just ordered one that will be here on Monday and I'm gettin really excited reading the posts here have had a backflip (was a bad joke lol) now i have the htc aria, its a decent phone, but will have the N1 Monday. Thanks for all the insight and help from the site.

ap3604 said:
I def learned my lesson, no more non-developer phones... EVER!!!
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Well said, this is my philosophy also.

chaoss1968 said:
I just ordered one that will be here on Monday and I'm gettin really excited reading the posts here have had a backflip (was a bad joke lol) now i have the htc aria, its a decent phone, but will have the N1 Monday. Thanks for all the insight and help from the site.
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Congrats! N1 is pretty sick stock, its almost impossible to replace customized. Google phones ftw
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Let’s count Bravo users on XDA.

I’ll be first
Look's like there is only few people who own this phone, but some threads have 1000+ views, so I wanna know how many off us is waiting for update (or Roms, or sbf to unbrick theirs phones )

Check the other threads, several so far, trying to keep from bricking this one because as soon as my daughter gets to upgrade her phone for free I am giving her this Bravo and I will get something better to play with.
The Bravo platform is a nice phone for your kid, maybe you wife, unless she too is adventurous, but certainly it's not for those who want to mod.

I'm not able to upgrade for a few months but love the bravo. its my first android so prefect but I am not new to modding. really big into jailbreaking and modding iphone and recently my ps3a well but would love to mod the bravo and try new roms. got it rooted debloated and over clocked but it is never enough, right. lol going to keep holding out for an update and for people smarter than me to deliver the tools that will enable us to do so.

I don't have one but my Son does. And I am the guy that roots and enables the goodies on the phones, so I think I count.

I just bought a Bravo and I'm excited to start modifications.
This is my first Android, I've spent a lot of time with WinMo.

I am waiting for 2.2 indeed.
For the madness to begin!
lol

Had mine for a month and love it. Only downside it the camera, but that's why I have a canon. Just saw on the Motorola support forum that they are getting voluteers to test 2.2 before they roll it out.

I AM WAITING FOR 2.2. It's so annoying not being able to do anything with this phone.

I use a Bravo. I want 2.2. Mostly just for flash.

I bought a Bravo, and i stayed exciting when i saw that it has similiar hardware that the Defy.
I hope that came one Good ROM for Bravo like i am seeing ROM's for Defy

I had an iphone 3g for a while, modded the bajesus out of it...fell out of the car one night when my girlfriend wanted to make a late night walmart run...then used my cingular 8125 till I finally broke down and got my bravo in an at&t store....i like it so far...just want to upgrade!!
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Impatiently waiting for 2.2 because I like open doors...
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Bravo User
I love the Bravo; it's an overlooked awesome phone. Here is some inside info Motorola and AT&T had to drop the Bravo from marketing because of conflicts with other phones with lesser power and features and the iPhone 4 had just dropped. The Bravo is no iPhone 4 but it is better than a 3GS and all around it was a better deal, I got mine for free. There are a couple of hardware guys at work that have modified the back of the phone to hold 4 32 GB MicroSD (128 GB) cards crazy! They keep tons of music and movies on the phones. It's a pretty cool setup and should be out soon for the Bravo and the Atrix and other phones. Even a micro SSD 300GB backing for the 4 core Nvidia Phone.
The Future is Bright for the Bravo and Motorola.

Aight...
Okay, so 2.2.1 just got pushed to Bravo. I know Bandroidx is throwing one down. Pretty stoked on this development. Can't wait to see what ya' got Bando!!!

Have one. It's a great little phone!

I've got one, my first smart phone, finally brokedown and replaced my Plam TX

i own a bravo too.
its compact, nice little phone. not too big, not too small. just about right. one major thing i hate about bravo is the atypical shape. :?

I've had my bravo since january. Couldn't stand using my old iPhone 3G anymore. Finally got my phone rooted, overclocked, and rommed two weeks ago. Loving the phone even though I've been having a fair bit of lag if I don't restart my phone once/twice daily, which didn't start at all until after the 2.2 update.

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I've had my bravo since january. Couldn't stand using my old iPhone 3G anymore. Finally got my phone rooted, overclocked, and rommed two weeks ago. Loving the phone even though I've been having a fair bit of lag if I don't restart my phone once/twice daily, which didn't start at all until after the 2.2 update.
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1-2 times a day? Damn. I usually don't have to reboot unless I do something that requires it, but I usually reboot every few days just to keep the phone running fast and smooth.

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1-2 times a day? Damn. I usually don't have to reboot unless I do something that requires it, but I usually reboot every few days just to keep the phone running fast and smooth.
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Same here, I used to reboot nightly, but now I'm doing it every three nights or so. I also don't really notice much difference between pre-reboot and post-reboot.

Atrix Owners! Introduce yourself :D

Hi Everyone!!!
I'm not sure if this kind of thread is well received here in XDA, but I enjoy them in some of the other Android forums I'm a member of (to those who recognize my name ). Hopefully it's well received, lol Else I'd feel really lonely in here
Introduce yourself; say as much or as little as you want. Just some basic stuff you should cover like when you discovered Android and your phone history. Also, when you got the Atrix and what model you have (AT&T or Bell). If you've got the Bell version, what carrier you're on. If you live overseas and got the AT&T Atrix shipped to you, state that too! If you're a member in any other Android forums, then tell us which ones they are! I've made a poll for thos that don't want to post in my thread (please do) and I included 'Europe Atrix' (don't know if it's to a specific carrier) so those that buy it can also vote when it's release (gotta have all of my base cover ) If you got any of the docks, please state which one.
I'll start off first!
The name is Roze...but someone took it...so it's -Roze- here I joined XDA last year, but I've been mostly a lurker. I only come here for technical support that I couldn't get in the Android Forums or they direct me to a thread here XD
I got into Android end of 2009 and got my first Android phone in March 2010 I wanted my first Android experience to be the best experience ever, so I got the AT&T Nexus One! Love that little fellow until I lost it in December 2010. I've been waiting for an AT&T Nexus S but when Moto announced the Atrix at the MWC, I knew this was the phone for me. I felt the Atrix is what the Nexus S should have been. I just got the Bell's Atrix a couple of days it was released (last week). I have it unlocked and rocking it on Rogers (ewww). One thing the Atrix doesn't give me is vanilla Android out of the box, so I will be rooting my dear Artie. Yes...my Atrix has a name Since I'm going to root, I have become a bit more active here. I’ve joined an array of Android forums but the two that I frequent are Android Forums and this one. I only got the Atrix sans docks since I have no need/use for them. And by my posting style, you can guess if I’m an XX or an XY
Oh I forgot to say: I LOVE MY ATRIX! I LOVE MY ATRIX! I LOVE MY ATRIX! I LOVE MY ATRIX! I LOVE MY ATRIX!
Don't mind me if I ask a lot of silly questions. I usually do a lot of research before I post but I have a memory of a gold fish, so it sucks. lol. Just direct me to the threads if it's already been answered
Phone history:
Lg Vu (8 months-Lost)
Sony Erricson something (4 months - temp)
Nexus One (8 months - Lost)
Black Berry something (4 months - temp)
Atrix (now - hopefully I won't lose it...)
^--Notice my little trend in phones
*thinks* I think that's all I have to say
Can't wait to hear everyone's introductions!
Cheers,
-Roze-

YO what's up, i like the idea of creating this thread, sorta brings some type of fun to the forum(not saying that their's not any already), well everybody calls me "Giz" short for Giizmo(yea i spell it with 2 I's lol), but i've bee with android since the G1 first came out, before that i had the Rokr(i loved that phone), blackberry pearl, blackjack, sidekick id, sidekick 3, sidekick LX(yea i was a sidekick fan), the W550i Walkman(that phone was sick!), the Touch Pro 2(great device, horrible software), the HTC Aria(still have it, great stable device), and now THE ATRIX(love it!), i had a few other devices just don't remember the exact names of them.
I been on this forum for a long time, i've tried a few others with different devices but this one seem to have the largest functioning community, i love xda they've helped me when i first started learning about android and continue to this day. I've learned so much to where i've helped out so many friends with their devices, and we've had so many great times on this site, a lot of hilarious moments and i'm sure more are to come. but i'm proud to be a long time member of xda, and once i learn to make themes i'll definitly start contributing to the site, then i'll start learning how to make roms(which may take some time, but it'll be worth it)
ummmmm idk what else to say lol, if there's something i missed let me kno haha........have a great day!

Jsut wanted to take the time to say hi. I've been using android since the g1.
There was a time where I had jumped ship to the iphone. I ditched my iphone 4 the atrix. Its unbelievable how much android has changed. I love the phone and I can't wait to get invoked worth the community again!
MDK666 aka MurderDeathKill
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Hey Hey!
I want to say hey and hope this community continues to get stronger! I jumped from the iPhone 4 to the Atrix. The Atrix is my first Android phone. I'm loving the immense amount of customization I can do on it. I just wish AT&T would open up non-market sources (I know they're planning to allow Amazon Appstore, but I want to install APKs via email, etc).
I look forward to more in-depth forum activity for the Atrix and wish to thank all the developers making things easy for us (rooting, ROMs, etc).

Well guess since I voted I should say Hi as well.
I have been on XDA for almost 5 years now. History of phones is as follows: Treo 700wx, HTC Touch, HTC Legend, Blackberry Tourch, and now my Atrix.
The last 3 I had all at once for a week. Really liked my Legend, hated the Torch and now loving my Atrix.

Hello, name is Shawn but friends call me stumpy(lost a foot to a train when I was a kid) I just joined xda today and I bought my bell Atrix a few days ago to replace the IPhone 3GS that I was beginning to loathe . Looking forward to going through here and finding some fun stuff to do with my Atrix.
Last few phones were Blackberry pearl, Samsung Instinct, iPhone 3GS, ATRIX!

Sweet! People responded!
G1-8701 said:
i've bee with android since the G1 first came out, before that i had the Rokr(i loved that phone), blackberry pearl, blackjack, sidekick id, sidekick 3, sidekick LX(yea i was a sidekick fan), the W550i Walkman(that phone was sick!), the Touch Pro 2(great device, horrible software), the HTC Aria(still have it, great stable device), and now THE ATRIX(love it!), i had a few other devices just don't remember the exact names of them.
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looks like you've been through a couple of Android phones
G1-8701 said:
I been on this forum for a long time, i've tried a few others with different devices but this one seem to have the largest functioning community, i love xda they've helped me when i first started learning about android and continue to this day. I've learned so much to where i've helped out so many friends with their devices, and we've had so many great times on this site, a lot of hilarious moments and i'm sure more are to come. but i'm proud to be a long time member of xda, and once i learn to make themes i'll definitly start contributing to the site, then i'll start learning how to make roms(which may take some time, but it'll be worth it)
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Seems like XDA also has its 'playful' side, something that I haven't seen a lot of, lol. That's good I was fearing that this thread is too out there for most people and noone would respond to it.
Good luck with creating themes! If you make 'em good, you'll see me sporting 'em on my Atrix
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Jsut wanted to take the time to say hi. I've been using android since the g1.
There was a time where I had jumped ship to the iphone. I ditched my iphone 4 the atrix. Its unbelievable how much android has changed. I love the phone and I can't wait to get invoked worth the community again!
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Welcome back to team Android! Android sure has come a long way from the G1!
ulkesh said:
I want to say hey and hope this community continues to get stronger! I jumped from the iPhone 4 to the Atrix. The Atrix is my first Android phone. I'm loving the immense amount of customization I can do on it. I just wish AT&T would open up non-market sources (I know they're planning to allow Amazon Appstore, but I want to install APKs via email, etc).
I look forward to more in-depth forum activity for the Atrix and wish to thank all the developers making things easy for us (rooting, ROMs, etc).
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Great to hear that you're loving both Android and the Atrix. I've notice that a few iPhone users find it quite hard to transition to Android and eventually return to their beloved iPhones. The developers here are AWSOME!!! Best place to find the best developers!! And it looks like you're planning to root?
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Well guess since I voted I should say Hi as well.
I have been on XDA for almost 5 years now. History of phones is as follows: Treo 700wx, HTC Touch, HTC Legend, Blackberry Tourch, and now my Atrix.
The last 3 I had all at once for a week. Really liked my Legend, hated the Torch and now loving my Atrix.
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Wow! You've been a member here for a really long time!!! I thought the Torch was an improvement over the Bold/Curve! lol
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Hello, name is Shawn but friends call me stumpy(lost a foot to a train when I was a kid) I just joined xda today and I bought my bell Atrix a few days ago to replace the IPhone 3GS that I was beginning to loathe . Looking forward to going through here and finding some fun stuff to do with my Atrix.
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Welcome to XDA!!! I hope you love your Atrix as I love mine! There's a lot that you can do with it that you can't with an iPhone!
>_< @ the train comment :< Sorry to hear about the foot.

What the heck, I'll bite. They call me dOc, I'm from Philadelphia and have been on xda I guess 2 years or so. I came here for the ROMs and mods for my AT&T Fuze (HTC Touch Pro) which was a great device that I just grew out of. (Now it kinda makes for a decent wireless touchpad/keyboard for the webtop, for the time being)
This is my first proper Android phone, having used XDAndroid on my Fuze and two pandigital e-readers that I put full android packages onto to get my feet wet. I must say that I am very glad I made the move but that it was only because of Windoze Phone 7 being so locked down that I went with the OS at all.
Loving the Atrix and I will be around for the duration. I am also interested in learning some Android development so I'll be learning that on the side and hopefully able to contribute at some point.
I usually don't post that often (I'm an avid searcher) but will when I really have something to offer or a serious question.
I am also on Androidforums, Atrixforums and Motorola owners forums and have seen you around Roze.

Hey Roze! Congrats on finally getting your Atrix!
I'm Marc, I have been a faithful Android user since the Original Droid came out, however i took a week long break with the Iphone when i started working for AT&T. Lucky for me the Aria came out with in the week so I returned the Iphone for it, then sold that, got the captivate, went to wp7 for a while, and then gave the dell streak a chance....tried the inspire, and here I am with the Atrix.
I'm looking forward for gingerblur RC1 !!!
oh and i work for AT&T, and yes, HSUPA is disabled although some of my superiors will beg to differ

-Roze- said:
Great to hear that you're loving both Android and the Atrix. I've notice that a few iPhone users find it quite hard to transition to Android and eventually return to their beloved iPhones. The developers here are AWSOME!!! Best place to find the best developers!! And it looks like you're planning to root?
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Already rooted Probably going to unroot (and possibly factory reset) for the coming update as I expect having it rooted could cause problems when updating. I'm an Adobe Flex developer and love that I can program for this device with very little effort. I make no promises not to return to the iPhone, but Apple has to come out with a phenomenal update with the iPhone 5 for me to want to switch back anytime soon.

I've only been using Android about a year now. Before I was a longtime WM user ( Early 2008- Late 2010). I'm normally not in these "serious" parts of the forum, I prefer off-topic and all its random, silly, nonsense but i'm taking a short leave of absence from it and my Team Llama empire. Click the pic in my sig to join (although we've been dead since I temporarily left in Jan.)
My device history
]• LG Incite (1 year used, still own)
• HTC Fuze (3 weeks used, sold)
• HTC Tilt 2 (1 month used, sold)
• HTC HD2 (2 weeks used, returned)
• Nexus One (6 months used, sold)
• Nexus S (1 month used, returned)
• Palm Pixi Plus (1 week used, still own)
• HTC Aria (1 month used, still own)
• Motorola Atrix 4G (currently using as main phone)
• HTC Surround (2 weeks used, broke, sold)
• Samsung Captivate (Got today)

What's going on everyone. I've been with xda since 2007 (well that's at least when i decided to join) because of the windows mobile devices I had and wanted to tinker with.
I am a mod at CrackBerry.com and have been a mod for Android Central around the time the Nexus One came out for AT&T. I started having lots of multi-touch issues with the Nexus One, so my Android activity went down.
I'm a phone whore and just like having new gadgets all the time. My current phones are:
Atrix 4G, iPhone 4, BlackBerry 9700 (should be getting my Torch back shortly), Samsung Focus and a Palm Pre. I just sold my Nexus One about 2-3 weeks ago and felt I needed a new Android device and the Atrix was the perfect device to do it.
I would name my previous smartphones, but the only ones I probably haven't had were Verizon ones (aside from the Storm 1).
Since I was on AT&T, there weren't many (actually no) android options in the beginning and when I heard about the "Google" phone, I waited and sure enough, the Nexus One was announced. The Atrix is only my second Android device as I've never been interested in many of the Android options from AT&T aside from the Nexus One and now the Atrix.
I do love the Atrix and have since made it my daily driver. Very unexpected and I'm loving it. I ordered an extra battery and media dock and should be here tomorrow (technically, later today... ha). I really don't need the battery as I'm getting 15 hours of usage and my battery is usually around 30%. I have not done any battery saving tricks (lowering the brightness, task managers, etc...) and this is very important to me as I like to use my device as is (the way I fell in love with it) and not having to adjust to less.
I have a son that will be 5 years old in June and realized I was addicted when at 3, he asked me why I had so many phones. Haha.
That's all for now. I'll probably use Tapatalk to post more.

hi, I bought one...and receive it today ...now I need unlock code xD
from portugal

From Sweden as you can figure out by looking a bit to the left. 28 years of age and currently studying logistics. I've been working for some years now at a job that payed very well but got me traveling around 100 days a year. I'm now aiming at settling down and all that crap.
Bought my Atrix two weeks ago and loving it. Owned a Magic, Acer Liquid and a X8 before this one. This kicks all their asses simultaneously!
I've got the AT&T model purchased through Amazon and Bonderlinx.

EclipseX said:
hi, I bought one...and receive it today ...now I need unlock code xD
from portugal
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Lol, nvm.....

Hi.
S1MPD1DDY. For those of you who don't know, my name is a play on P-Diddy (who is now just Diddy, or.. whatever he is now). First time android user. I joined XDA when I got the Atrix last month. Great phone.
Device history:
iPhone 3G (2 of them, 2 years)
iPhone 3GS (1, 1 year)
Atrix (now, one month)
I kind of want to pick up another android phone now... maybe if I can find a cheap old ATT nexus one somewhere. I reaaallllyyy liked that phone. All my buddies had one, and the form factor on it was/is slick.

s1mpd1ddy said:
Hi.
S1MPD1DDY. For those of you who don't know, my name is a play on P-Diddy (who is now just Diddy, or.. whatever he is now). First time android user. I joined XDA when I got the Atrix last month. Great phone.
Device history:
iPhone 3G (2 of them, 2 years)
iPhone 3GS (1, 1 year)
Atrix (now, one month)
I kind of want to pick up another android phone now... maybe if I can find a cheap old ATT nexus one somewhere. I reaaallllyyy liked that phone. All my buddies had one, and the form factor on it was/is slick.
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i just sold n1 for for pretty cheap... $250, but added $20 as it was out of country. i actually got a brand new replacement through HTC and the user got a fresh phone. looking at what people are still selling them for, i know i could have gotten a lot more. a couple of developers had emailed me after the sale and were willing to pay more.

Jayden0606 said:
i just sold n1 for for pretty cheap... $250, but added $20 as it was out of country. i actually got a brand new replacement through HTC and the user got a fresh phone. looking at what people are still selling them for, i know i could have gotten a lot more. a couple of developers had emailed me after the sale and were willing to pay more.
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what website did you use to sell it? Ebay?

First ATRIX in Portugal !?!
Probably. But first of all a big "Hello" to all of you in the xdadevelopers forum. Already before I bought my ATRIX last Friday in FT-Lauderdale, I followed the Android related threads during the last months here in the forum. Very interesting and informative.
When Android came on the stage, I was sure to buy one. I hate everything running Windoz, I like the look & feel of Apple but not the restrictions (iTunes etc.) and I love everything running Linux. Last Christmas I nearly bought a HTC, but when I heard about the Motorola ATRIX I was sure this will be the device which will replace my 8 year old Samsung (still working fine).
The last two months I was in US / Caribbean (for working ;-) so I thought to buy one in Florida. This was really difficult. Only end of February the first ones were available ... ... with a two years contract. The one without plan, you could not get because there was (is) a huge demand for this smartphone and only very few phones in stock. At least last Friday I could get one at Radio Shack in FT-Lauderdale. 599,- USD and of course blocked for AT&T. I took the risk, bought it and ordered the unblock code at CellUnlock.net.
Yesterday I got the code, swapped the Sim card to my Optimus one, rebooted the phone, entered the Unlock code and ...
... everything working perfect !!!

Hi, my name is irus and I am a dualcoreaholic