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Has anyone noticed lately that the G1 section has been moving quite slow?

It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)

The lack of anything besides Vanilla 2.X roms here lately is a sign of the G1's retirement setting in fully. We all knew this was coming. As soon as they said 2.X would never be given to non rooted users, it was a big blow dealt. Now that we hardly see any new roms and the recent news of the G1 Blaze being very near to release, I think people are just waiting for the right upgrade to come along. Then the G1 will go to the great phone graveyard.

Blackman778g said:
It seems as though the most hackable phone, the Grandfather of Android has been lacking much attention, I think all the developers have left us! The forums have not had any new ROMs or tiny hacks .
I think it is time to let the G1 and all the other 1.6 or below Android phones lay to rest... (the dump!)
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Yeah, ditto, I've noticed the same thing for months now. We G1 users have not been forgotten though, we still have lots of developers who are still working hard for us. I mean, remember a few months ago when we didn't even have fully working eclair roms? Each of which had different broken features, back when OE, CE, and kings AOSP were the best 2.1 roms yet they all lacked camcorder, 3D, etc. Now we have fully functional hardware on froyo roms, We can load custom boot partitions, we can OC way past 528 Mhz, etc.
I have a few ideas to try to implement myself, but I am definately still learning. I just recently installed ubuntu on my main computer (windows sucks lol) and I'm working on building from CM source. Some of my (and other people's) ideas include a reverse ram hack and an OC OV kernel to overclock higher. Wish me luck
Besides, try not to thing about it as how much we have left, but how far we've come. (lol I linked to a song by the same name... listen to it the lyrics are powerful)

Yea. I own a g1 and a mytouch 3g both 32b.. i think i installed mostly every rom for the g1.. now rooting just got boring w. The g1.. i love the phone nd all.. i just dont want to see it go.. after every hack that came out for it.. i have to wait 2 year to get a new android device.. but i kno my g1 will hold up.. still best keyboard/touch screen phone too me..
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Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.

Binary100100 said:
Yeah I said that this was going to happen back in February when the MyTouch LE and Nexus were coming out. Nobody believed me and in fact I was getting hate mail because of it. Some people were so persistent that the G1 was still going to be developed on for years to come because they had some older WinMo phones that were still being kept up to date. My argument is that Android is growing much faster than WinMo system and has become increasingly popular. To be honest I was caught a little off guard by the MyTouch 1.2/LE devices being outdated so quickly but again, it only backed up my theory that the G1 and MyTouch devices would be obsolete by years end. Most devices out there are made to support the future of Android. Some are even rumored to be dual processor! There would be no way that roms or even apps that can run on 1ghz dual processor devices with 16gb of internal storage can compete with the devices that ran RC-17, RC-19, RC-30, RC-33, etc. A year from now people will be looking at the G1 in awe that we've come so far with Android and more devices will be released. Devices with much better specifications and that can receive upgrades for a least a couple years to come. It pains me to say that HTC wasn't thinking very far ahead when they released the Dream with such limitations but who would have thought that we would have Android systems like Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread? Hell, I remember back when you couldn't even have widgets on your Android homescreen other than the clock. Now look at your screen. That wasn't too long ago either.
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Bam, You nailed.. it!

I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.

r3s-rt said:
I saw it. I knew this hardware was going to be outdated very quickly. That's the number one thing that drives me to a phone is hardware, and G1 never had enough. MT3G caught my attention, and now I feel buyers remorse for buying so early. Damn good phone, but now its nothing compared to anything else.
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All the original MyTouch was a G1 without a keyboard unless you happen to have a 32a device. The 1.2 was a nice step up, but quickly outdated.

I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.

jamesd86 said:
I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?

jamesd86 said:
I still believe the G1 could stick around in my household for a year or two more as a VOIP/PMP/HTPC remote. but not as a daily phone, let alone one I'd be willing to pay for service on.
Wish I could be bothered to put together a linux box and learn how to make a ROM/kernel with telephone services completely disabled...find out whether or not the wifis are tied to the celluar radio(ie can we free up 92 mb of RAM if we don't need that cell radio active and still keep wifi enabled/gps enabled(i know no to aGPS))...if any of this sounds strange, its 0545 and i'm tired.
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Im going to jump in and say YES! Why? Because I am deaf (read hearing impaired, profoundly deaf -- dont call me, nobody will answer, I cant hear you")
I got my first Dream in November 2009. It was because I was sick of the Sidekick and its baked-ness.
December 2009, I rooted the G1 because I quickly got sucked into the rooting forums and wanted to see what it could do.
I have been trying to figure out how to run this phone without phone.apk com.android.phone and Dialer. Its impossible since the telephony part is still tied into the SMS/MMS portions.
My point is...... the telephone part for a hearing user must use about...... say 1GHZ of space. What can this Dream do without all that phone?
I now own 6 Dreams, (1 bought, 5 rescued from the graveyard, all are working beautifully and I have big hopes for them one day) This is not just a phone. Its a beautiful piece of clocked machinery. I believe I will use a G1 until the day I die which will be within 6 decades.
So, instead of sending the G1's to the graveyard how about it

Binary100100 said:
So basically you want your G1 phone for strictly a linux based computer system and not for a phone at all, that about it?
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No, I want it to run Android(yes, i know its a linux kernel). I want it to play media, navigate/have maps on sd card so i can replace a standalone gps on long trips, I want it utilize any and all apps that it can, games too. And I want it to do all this w/o the telephone parts taking up precious space. I can put google voice/sipdroid on it for voip capabilities.
yeah. I also want to know if the 64 mb of ram that would be wasted on the baseband radio can be recovered.

I would never give up my G1 even though I said that in the first post but... the G1 is just to amazing to me. The current G1 I own has a screen cable issue so the screen constantly turns black when ever you touch the bottom certainly, now I have to use a P.O.S. Sidekick LX 2007 Brown temporarily until Project Emerald or the G1 Blaze. If I could fix the cable I would gladly use this G1 until it dies before I replace it.

Or you could buy a used g1 on craigslist for 75 bucks. hell, if you got friends with android that have upgraded you might be able to score a free one.

I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!

jhunterb18 said:
I still use my G1... but i've had some hard times with it in the past... First time rooting I had a problem with the SPL and bricked the phone, it would stay on the G1 screen and not let me do anything else. So, I called Tmo and told them my phone stopped working so they sent me a new one and I returned the bricked one. Got lucky with that. cracked my digitizer once replaced that one from a friends G1 which became a part out. Gonna need to replace the menu button above the trackball later today, something is really wrong with it. Replaced the motherboard because the wifi stopped working never found out how to fix that... Then the HD2 was released... didn't know about it till 2 months later when I started seeing commercials for it so I picked one of those up. wondered what the 1ghz processor was like and HTC sense, this was all before they started putting Android on the HD2's. Just after 2 weeks of owning the phone I leave it on my windshield after a few hours of working on my car and take the car out for a test drive... all the while forgetting my phone... Cracked the screen and made a few scratches on the case but was still fully operational. Few more weeks later and I forget my phone on the roof of my car this time, and am driving about 70mph and hear a thunk and a thud and was asking myself wtf was that?... then I realized I don't have my phone in my lap and I started shaking and freak out a little bit and desperatly try to find it. Luckly I do... however this time I wasn't so lucky. Digitizer is not responsive and since it doesn't have a trackball the phone becomes totally useless. Slide my SIM card in my G1 once again and have been using it for awhile (I took my G1 everywhere my car would go just in case I had some bad luck or needed to use an app off of it.) I'm impressed with the speed of the G1, yes its already outdated but look its running Froyo and to me I figured it would be like putting windows 7 on a computer made in the 90's, but its nothing like that at all, its running it just fine, and sure its not as fast as the EVO 4 but its working good enough to be functional for a daily use phone and show off to my friend who just bought the vibrant and is anticipating the september OTA update to Froyo he was a little upset/jealous that I got it on my phone, and to be honest I had a big smirk on my face when I showed him everything it has.
Boring story I know... haha!
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Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "

Blackman778g said:
Don't worry I show off my G1 to everyone who owns an Android phone that is newer with better specs. I say "Hey what phone is that?" "Guess what this is?" "a G1!!!!" "What can your phone do?" Mine can do that and this!" ""Why can your G1 do that and my newer phone can't?"" "G1 is to great of a phone... should have kept it "
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HAHAHA nice I need to try that with some people. Hopefully some Dev's can get Gingerbread on the G1 and then I can make my friend more jealous because he'll probably have to wait till next year to get it on his phone.

It feels so good to have this G1. A device with out dated specs, but with capabilty of anything out there. Hmmmmm maybe if we just swap in a gpu.... we should build G1s.. just like they build computers
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Woooooowwww....the VIBRANT is really an awesome phone!!!

When I first got this phone I was happy initially but wasn't all that satisfied with its bugs, lag and wack GPS. I don't know exactly what bugs you may have encountered but mine on 2.1 went as follows
- Some live wallpapers caused my phone to crash and reboot if I tried to set it. One of them (Pano-planet) always forced closed on me
- I couldn't play Fruit Ninja's and Flick Kick Field Goal because half the time I tried to, it would crash my phone.
- Ever since the update to make the google maps have that 3d came out, every single time I launched the app it would crash my phone.
- Lag, Lag and more lag
- My gallery app when launched always crashed on me
- When on the phone and I'd get another call on the other line, my screen would stay black for like 5-7 sec before it showed me who was trying to call me
- Battery life sucked.
Despite all of these issues, I got used to them and patiently waited for the Froyo update. Finally it came out and from what I've read, its a total mixed bag. A lot of people on hear said it wasn't worth it. So I personally was disappointed and didnt want to get the official update, afraid it may make my phone worse. Until I found out about custom roms. I'm a total noob but did research on custom roms and long story short flashed my phone to the Bionix-V by teamwhiskey. I should've done this a loooooooooooooong time ago. Not only is every bug that I mentioned fixed, but something that I thought was a hardware issue apparently isn't. The GPS on my phone is the best its ever been since I got the Vibrant. And the battery life on this phone is beautiful.
For the first time since I've had the phone, it functions and runs the way I expected it to run when I got it. I was thinking about getting another phone that I thought would be supported better but changed my mind cuz my work runs so well now. It functions so well, that I'm afraid to try out other roms because I don't want to mess up things. Which brings me to my next point.....SAMSUNG!! Its soooooooooooo sad that they have a line of phones that are capable of running so well get backed up/supported or lack thereof with TERRIBLE software. Thats like Sony backing and putting ps2 like quality games out on the ps3....makes no sense.
Anyway for those of you who are still running 2.1 software and are on the fence about which way to go (official or custom), take it from a noob like myself, who a week ago didn't know nothing about flashing a phone and custom this and that. FLASH FLASH FLASH....SCREW THE OFFICIAL UPDATE. ONCE YOU FLASH YOU WON'T GO BACK.

same here, once I got fed up with the waiting and the bugs, I rooted, then eventually popped a custom ROM on my phone and it has been great seeing how well the phone can work with proper software

I love the developers here. It's amazing what they can do, especially considering samsung doesn't really seem to care.
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Dont u just love the porn on super amoled screen? Isnt it like their right there?!?
Jk
Yeah its a great phone

It really is a great phone once the right software is pushing it.
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Thanks again xriderx66, your review on the roms helped a great deal
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This is a great phone and when the Vibrant 4G comes out we will be able to kite off what we need from them to make this phone even better

I just switched from an at&t x10 to the vibrant. Couldn't be more happier, i'm in love with this device!

Was hesitant to root for a while. Had a rooted G1 and loved it but I figured I would just let this one pan out. The T-Mobile OTA bricked my phone... So after learning how to use ODIN I decided to root it and see what I could get going on this and wow what a difference it has been. Still on Nero V3 and my phone runs smooth as butter. Amazing development community around here.

i'm new to this phone and someone recomend me to buy it. this rly is a surprise for me all this android stuff and the devs here are rly cool. i love my vibrant phone, won't change it even for an apple 4.

Ever since upgrading to stock 2.2 this phone has been the epitome of unreliable. It's like a pretty bad winmo phone running an android skin. Have to soft reset it (hole power down) like 5 times a day because the screen doesn't turn on. Pretty bad because you can think the phone is fine when you're really missing phone calls emails and notifications. Have tried factory reset switch batteries etc. Nothing works. It worked fine before the update but right now this phone is utterly unreliable and robust is not a term to describe it...
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xriderx66 said:
Dont u just love the porn on super amoled screen? Isnt it like their right there?!?
Jk
Yeah its a great phone
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LOL yes it's great to have Adobe Flash 10.1 too! xD xD xD

N8ter said:
Ever since upgrading to stock 2.2 this phone has been the epitome of unreliable. It's like a pretty bad winmo phone running an android skin. Have to soft reset it (hole power down) like 5 times a day because the screen doesn't turn on. Pretty bad because you can think the phone is fine when you're really missing phone calls emails and notifications. Have tried factory reset switch batteries etc. Nothing works. It worked fine before the update but right now this phone is utterly unreliable and robust is not a term to describe it...
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This is true. When the 2.2 official update came out I reverted back to stock so that I could update and see how well Samsung did. When I did, I saw the horrible ****tiness everywhere... slow and unstable... only had it running for 10 minutes before I just went back to custom software
It surprises me how Samsung ****ed up the official Froyo update when all the leaks we've been getting for our ROMs have been stable and acceptably fast.
Right now I'm using Bionix-v 1.2 and Dragon kernel 3.2 (a well optimized Voodoo-supported kernel that allows a maximum overclock of 1.4 Ghz and many more improvements!!)

im using bionix-v 1.2 by team whiskey myself and can't wait for stable froyo 2.2.1. im especially excited for voodoo sound that will bring our phones the highest quality sound output through headphones (thanks supercurio) and will soon be available to us without sacrificing battery life. i truly appreciate all the efforts devs here put into all these things.
anyone who hasn't been around here for long, please think twice before asking questions in dev threads.. i started flashing just about a month ago, flashed a number of kernels, roms, modems, custom frameworks, etc., and never had to ask a single question and never had any troubles just by researching, reading op and following instructions prior to flashing anything to get a sense of whatever i was doing. i understand a noob doesn't mean to be a noob. but seriously if you try, you can avoid getting problems unless there really is a bug. good questions encourage devs for sure, but a majority of noob questions don't and make serious devs leave us. i just really hope the devs who are working day and night trying to bring us good stuff without any rewards stick around and continue to produce quality creations as we've seen so far as long as my vibrant is still working and usable.. im so thankful.

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This is true. When the 2.2 official update came out I reverted back to stock so that I could update and see how well Samsung did. When I did, I saw the horrible ****tiness everywhere... slow and unstable... only had it running for 10 minutes before I just went back to custom software
It surprises me how Samsung ****ed up the official Froyo update when all the leaks we've been getting for our ROMs have been stable and acceptably fast.
Right now I'm using Bionix-v 1.2 and Dragon kernel 3.2 (a well optimized Voodoo-supported kernel that allows a maximum overclock of 1.4 Ghz and many more improvements!!)
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Honestly it didn't surprise me one bit. Samsung probably made an exceptionally buggy release on purpose, part of their way of trying to shut people up and convince us that they weren't ready. I gave up on samsung support a long time ago and probably wont get another phone until the N2 comes out (I'm through with manufacturer support).
I switched to custom roms after 1 month of having this phone and i have to say i absolutely love it. I personally favor Master's roms. But all in all the devs here are absolutely amazing. They allow this phone to reach its potential in ways samsung never did. I'm excited to see what comes out of Eugene's source kernel.
Thank god for all the devs who do all this stuff for free.

shreddintyres said:
Honestly it didn't surprise me one bit. Samsung probably made an exceptionally buggy release on purpose, part of their way of trying to shut people up and convince us that they weren't ready.
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Samsung software engineers dont know what they are doing. Period.

it is a good phone...the Bionix upgrade definitely made my phone run better but it gives me some slight problems on the vibrant that i have to work out

I had a Behold 2 and upgraded to the vibrant a month ago. I told my sister she have 10 minutes to play with the stock rom before I dismantle the POS rom and rooted it. 10 MINUTES guys!! that's how long the stock rom lived on my phone. i never even consider running stock.. currently running Eugene froyo 2.2 final r2 build with gingerbread theme.
I had a battery life hiccup for a bit. The A2SD caused the sd card mount to get hot and burns battery life. So i took all apps off SD and into internal storage and i'm now back to 24+ hours battery life.

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Was hesitant to root for a while. Had a rooted G1 and loved it but I figured I would just let this one pan out.
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It's funny because I said the same thing when I came from G1. "This time i'm gonna wait before I root". I ended up rooting it 3 hours later. Lol.
And yes as much as we ***** and complain about this phone, it's still a wonderful device. It's still 2nd best in terms of raw CPU/GPU power, with the best now being dual core tegras.

Atrix, here I come

Just ordered an Atrix yesterday.
It should arrive next tuesday.
I'm using a Samsung Captivate right now. Having an unlocked bootloader is great, but it seems if the phone is s*it, then It will remain s*it no matter what rom you flash to it. I can't understand why a phone with a 1ghz cpu needs a patch to avoid lags. GPS never worked well, and with latest roms it never worked. Last time I had good gps was with JI6, but for some reason, it doesn't work anymore, no matter what rom I flash to it.
Then we have the Inspire 4g. I had that phone in mind before ordering the Atrix, but seeing how s*itty the battery was I decided in favor of the Atrix. Why in the world they put a 1230 mAh battery in a device with a huge 4.3" screen?. What were they thinking?. Also, why only 4gb of internal storage?. These two points were the ones that made me decide against the Inspire. It may have lots of roms avalaible, but it doesn't have good autonomy. So I may have total control of my phone, but It won't stay alive a whole day.
Then we'll have the Galaxy S 2 in a few months. I will never buy a Samsung phone again. Samsung proved to be s*it with my Captivate and almost with all the SGS series.
So I ended buying an Atrix. I really hope it doesn't disapoint me like the Captivate did. I don't care if I can't flash a different rom every week. If everythings work fine out of the box, then I don't see the point to flash it everyday.
What do you guys think?. I've seen lots of threads hating this phone. Threads like "I returned my Atrix for an Inspire". Is the Atrix a good phone?.
I hope I have taken the right decision.

welcome i still have a captivate as backup but there is nothing to compere between these two phones....maybe amoled screen is lil better than atrix one but i got used to it already.

yokopol said:
welcome i still have a captivate as backup but there is nothing to compere between these two phones....maybe amoled screen is lil better than atrix one but i got used to it already.
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I see. I realized the Atrix should be a beast compared to the Captivate ^^.

Whipon said:
Just ordered an Atrix yesterday.
It should arrive next tuesday.
I'm using a Samsung Captivate right now. Having an unlocked bootloader is great, but it seems if the phone is ****, then It will remain **** no matter what rom you flash to it. I can't understand why a phone with a 1ghz cpu needs a patch to avoid lags. GPS never worked well, and with latest roms it never worked. Last time I had good gps was with JI6, but for some reason, it doesn't work anymore, no matter what rom I flash to it.
Then we have the Inspire 4g. I had that phone in mind before ordering the Atrix, but seeing how ****ty the battery was I decided in favor of the Atrix. Why in the world they put a 1230 mAh battery in a device with a huge 4.3" screen?. What were they thinking?. Also, why only 4gb of internal storage?. These two points were the ones that made me decide against the Inspire. It may have lots of roms avalaible, but it doesn't have good autonomy. So I may have total control of my phone, but It won't stay alive a whole day.
Then we'll have the Galaxy S 2 in a few months. I will never buy a Samsung phone again. Samsung proved to be **** with my Captivate and almost with all the SGS series.
So I ended buying an Atrix. I really hope it doesn't disapoint me like the Captivate did. I don't care if I can't flash a different rom every week. If everythings work fine out of the box, then I don't see the point to flash it everyday.
What do you guys think?. I've seen lots of threads hating this phone. Threads like "I returned my Atrix for an Inspire". Is the Atrix a good phone?.
I hope I have taken the right decision.
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I think you are right. Don't forget the Inspire is a full ounce heavier. I tried handling the Inspire and it was very uncomfortable. Not only that it looked like and felt like a clunker. I really did not like that silver thing at the top or the weight. Definitely not sleek and fashionable. One reason I left the iPhone was the big, square mini computer shape which is kind of like the Inspire. I had a Captivate and was flashing the roms to correct all the difficulties it had. Atrix works out of the box and works very well. It is fast and handles both phone calls and e mail well. It is light years ahead of where the Captivate is at even if you do use all the custom roms. No battery problems with the Atrix. No overheating. No lag. The only way I was able to even come close with the Captivate was when I used Cyanogen Mod 6.1 or Gingerbread. I have a Galaxy S II on order but I may cancel. Atrix is that good.

I would join you and almost did. But i hate locked down phones. Its kinda like leasing a car. But the atrix is still sick. And im sure its great... I do still want one lol.
And please watch the swearing.... We have alot of young users.

Atrix is very fast phone,but camera picture quality is suck

5 days into my switch from the iphone 4 and im still extremely satisfied. Welcome and good luck!!!
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I liked the atrix a lot but admit I sold it and am going to give the inspire a try. The battery on the atrix was great.
If you keep the atrix check my signature for a cheap hd entertainment kit. My buyer took just the phone.
Good luck with the atrix.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback guys. This is very encouraging . I'm not nervous anymore about having bought the phone.
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I liked the atrix a lot but admit I sold it and am going to give the inspire a try. The battery on the atrix was great.
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I would join you and almost did. But i hate locked down phones. Its kinda like leasing a car. But the atrix is still sick. And im sure its great... I do still want one lol.
And please watch the swearing.... We have alot of young users.
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I'm sorry. Are you talking about the s*it word?. Couldn't help it.

Welcome! You may see some Atrix Hater Threads on here but believe me this phone is a beast.

Whipon said:
Just ordered an Atrix yesterday.
It should arrive next tuesday.
I'm using a Samsung Captivate right now. Having an unlocked bootloader is great, but it seems if the phone is ****, then It will remain **** no matter what rom you flash to it. I can't understand why a phone with a 1ghz cpu needs a patch to avoid lags. GPS never worked well, and with latest roms it never worked. Last time I had good gps was with JI6, but for some reason, it doesn't work anymore, no matter what rom I flash to it.
Then we have the Inspire 4g. I had that phone in mind before ordering the Atrix, but seeing how ****ty the battery was I decided in favor of the Atrix. Why in the world they put a 1230 mAh battery in a device with a huge 4.3" screen?. What were they thinking?. Also, why only 4gb of internal storage?. These two points were the ones that made me decide against the Inspire. It may have lots of roms avalaible, but it doesn't have good autonomy. So I may have total control of my phone, but It won't stay alive a whole day.
Then we'll have the Galaxy S 2 in a few months. I will never buy a Samsung phone again. Samsung proved to be **** with my Captivate and almost with all the SGS series.
So I ended buying an Atrix. I really hope it doesn't disapoint me like the Captivate did. I don't care if I can't flash a different rom every week. If everythings work fine out of the box, then I don't see the point to flash it everyday.
What do you guys think?. I've seen lots of threads hating this phone. Threads like "I returned my Atrix for an Inspire". Is the Atrix a good phone?.
I hope I have taken the right decision.
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I had mine since the first batch of pre-orders went out...at first I did not like the colors on the Atrix got use to the Captivate OLED..but then I started to really test the phone..movies, calls, web, texting,GPS with Copilot, voice commands..running apps in the background and foreground..I tried by best to find something wrong with the Atrix as it was out of the box..it never glitched..ever.... I was shocked..Captivate would have croaked...and rebooted itself.
Then I said man..the battery on this is runs out really quick..well there is a dual core processor in the thing running at 1Ghz..so I rooted it then applied SetCPU..under clocked...then tried to crash it again...I failed..yes I got some lag after trying to run 5-6 apps in the background and playing a movie with the CPU set to 600hz...but I can tell you it never crashed or rebooted on me...so I say..I can deal with the extra high res screen with natural skin colors and locked boot loader..now I enjoy an average of 80-90hrs on one charge..with normal phone use..and about 45-55 hrs under heavy use...and yes I turn off data mode when not used..now if someone can figure out to switch between 4G/3G down to Edge mode..I think I can increase battery life even more and still have very good performance..with the ability to go full throttle as needed.
One day one of our master developers on this forum or other..will find a way to unlock it..then it will be really game on..
That's my story on the Atrix vs Captivate..

Whipon said:
Just ordered an Atrix yesterday.
It should arrive next tuesday.
I'm using a Samsung Captivate right now. Having an unlocked bootloader is great, but it seems if the phone is ****, then It will remain **** no matter what rom you flash to it. I can't understand why a phone with a 1ghz cpu needs a patch to avoid lags. GPS never worked well, and with latest roms it never worked. Last time I had good gps was with JI6, but for some reason, it doesn't work anymore, no matter what rom I flash to it.
Then we have the Inspire 4g. I had that phone in mind before ordering the Atrix, but seeing how ****ty the battery was I decided in favor of the Atrix. Why in the world they put a 1230 mAh battery in a device with a huge 4.3" screen?. What were they thinking?. Also, why only 4gb of internal storage?. These two points were the ones that made me decide against the Inspire. It may have lots of roms avalaible, but it doesn't have good autonomy. So I may have total control of my phone, but It won't stay alive a whole day.
Then we'll have the Galaxy S 2 in a few months. I will never buy a Samsung phone again. Samsung proved to be **** with my Captivate and almost with all the SGS series.
So I ended buying an Atrix. I really hope it doesn't disapoint me like the Captivate did. I don't care if I can't flash a different rom every week. If everythings work fine out of the box, then I don't see the point to flash it everyday.
What do you guys think?. I've seen lots of threads hating this phone. Threads like "I returned my Atrix for an Inspire". Is the Atrix a good phone?.
I hope I have taken the right decision.
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I love the Atrix, u made a great decision

I moved from the Captivate to the Atrix too.
At first I was worried, reading about MotoBlur...screen...etc...
Of course the best way to evaluate a product is to daily-use, at least for me. There's only so much I can read without trying it out the way I would use it.
Got my Atrix on Monday lunch, and I'm getting used to the screen, the power/fingerprint location, MotoBlur stuff...
Wouldn't say it's a perfect phone, but it's enough for my needs

How about the dock kit?
How was the resolution of the atrix?. How was the entertaining kit? -useful or boring?. I have a Nexus one with Gingerbread, runs pretty fast, very good at calls and battery, internet is fast, it have tether. Soo i'm looking for the Atrix for the video out features, HDMI and it's "speed".

reddog said:
.now if someone can figure out to switch between 4G/3G down to Edge mode..I think I can increase battery life even more and still have very good performance..with the ability to go full throttle as needed.
One day one of our master developers on this forum or other..will find a way to unlock it..then it will be really game on..
That's my story on the Atrix vs Captivate..
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bioert said:
How was the resolution of the atrix?. How was the entertaining kit? -useful or boring?. I have a Nexus one with Gingerbread, runs pretty fast, very good at calls and battery, internet is fast, it have tether. Soo i'm looking for the Atrix for the video out features, HDMI and it's "speed".
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I would think speed would be pretty much the same. Just replace Motoblur with a ASOP Gingerbread launcher and use SetCPU, then the Atrix will match the Nexus S for speed.

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I'm sorry. Are you talking about the s*it word?. Couldn't help it.
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Yes i mean that. So please edit your post? Its not really bad. But bad enough...

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smokestack76 said:
Yes i mean that. So please edit your post? Its not really bad. But bad enough...
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Well, I did it. Censored the word.
But It seems its pointless, since lots of users quoted me.

Downgrade from G2 to CLIQ

I thought I would share this with those of you on here who are nerdy enough to appreciate.
I got the g2 shortly after it came out, upgrading from the horrendous motorola cliq, which was an upgrade from the original G1 that I had lost in cab. The CLIQ was an experience that convinced me never to get a motorola phone again. For those of you not in the loop (consider yourself very lucky/smart) - the cliq launched with android 1.5 and motorola promised an update to 1.6 - then they said they were working on 2.0 - then 2.1. After literally 9 months of delays and promises and delays they still hadn't released 2.1 and we were still on 1.5 missing out on all the new apps. The dev community was tiny with HandlerExploit and TravisJames doing the rom work and a few sharp guys who rooted the phone and moved on to greener pastures. So i naturally jumped at the chance to get a new device on t-mobile - and the g2 with its "stock android" (and therefore easy updates and potentially more devs) pulled me in more than the vibrant/galaxy s. In retrospect, the only reason time to get a new handset is when cyanogen himself gets it.
Since getting the G2 I've devoted hours to scouring the forums, trying the latest patches and hacks before we had root, installing roms, increasing performance, comparing quadrants with my colleagues with nexus ones and droids, modding, modding, hacking, my g2 was hacked to shreds and put back together by this community into something more than just a phone - it was a powerhouse of AWESOMENESS. in between bouts of g2, i had rooted, hijacked and installed Liberty on my girlfriends droid x. Then I did it again - at my friends bar during a 30 minutes chat about how slow some random guy's droid x. I was officially addicted to the root.
Its worth noting that when I got the g2 I thought about going Office Space on the cliq. Taking it out back and beating the **** out of its evil motorola guts - but I was too happy with the g2 to care about how awful motorola and the cliq had been. In fact I had largely forgotten about my cliq until a few weeks ago when I found it push way back in a shelf. While doing some spring cleaning in my apartment I found the cliq hidden away behind a keyboard and my dreaded tax files. As I was cleaning, I avoided my girl friends death stare and kept that old hateful piece of **** cliq - there was something telling me that it had a place - that despite its evil of motoblur and bootloader bull**** there was redemption to be had for that briq of a phone. I was not ready to say goodbye to the CLIQ - no matter how evil its maker was, it was still a droid at heart.
Then my G2 broke last Sunday. The screen just wigged out and started showing black and white lines. I could still receive phone calls due to turning on the "trackbutton to accept" option in cm7 but that was it. So there I was, with a broken G2 - no ball and chain to the office email, no constant facebook messages, no calls from my girl asking me to pick up a bottle of wine when i'm a block from her place, no text messages interrupting my dinners, but most of all, no phone to flash nightlies and mod - I was understandably a total mess.
I went to the t-mobile store first thing on Monday - they said it was manufacturing defect and accepted the phone without issue. However, they wouldn't give me a new one on the spot - i would have to wait till corporate mailed me a new one.
I went home, dejected, wanted to throw on my headset and listen to pandora - but with no g2 to pair it to. But in the midst of sorrow, I saw the CLIQ. The path to redemption had begun. I went to work - scouring the old forums and Handler Exploits simply-android site. By the end of the evening I was running Cyanogen Mod 6 and had that thing overclocked to a gut wrenching 768 mghz - about half of what my g2 was running at. I stripped down the system/app and system/lib getting rid of every unnecessary app to get the sluggish system to go faster. Finally i was surfing, texting, checking facebook - without wanting to break the damn phone in half.
I ran a quadrant on it today: 362. Not 3620 tegra zone scores - not the 2800 i was pulling on the g2 - no this was 362 MOTO BRIQ scores. My colleague here at the office whose OG Droid is running CM thanks to me is running angry birds and I can barely get Maps to run without lag. I feel like i've gone from a Ferrari to a Model T - but hey, I can still make phone calls and post to FB. I just hope that and my girl's droid x will be enough android to get by till Monday.

Nice story! I feel your pain. There's a Cliq xt waiting to serve backup duty in the event that my G2 meets an early demise. If I ever need to put it into service, rooting will be a necessary step.
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Nice read, and my condolences on your loss Hopefully they overnight that RMA to you ASAP.
Before the G2, I was using a $20 prepaid phone right off the shelf. I was super frugal and never thought it would be worth it to dish out the extra coin for the data plan. There's no ****ing going back now.

Excellently composed! I believe you have summed up the feelings most of the community here! I hope you get your replacement back as soon as possible! I too had a dreaded briq, divorced it for a MyTouch 1.2 and arrived here at the G2. Unfortunately I have no backup phone.. All my old devices move to greener pastures where less the less tech savvy roam.
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I do feel your pain! I recently traded my Vibrant for my G2, and as I had no previous trade history on XDA, I had to send my phone first. The week with my cliq xt was interesting! First thing I did was rooted it and got 2.1 running on it. It still wouldn't play Angry Birds, but it was enough droid to get me through the week.

Thanks for the story. I have a Cliq too, which I finally got tired of in January and picked up a G2. If it wasn't for the devs like HandlerExploit, Travis James, toxigenicpoem, J_r0dd, adlx, sudoadam, kb7sqi, and others, I would have dumped it long before. Most of the devs were walking away from it, so I figured it was time to move on. Although I follow csolanol, br3ttu, and ngiordano on Twitter and see they are still working hard on it, getting CM ported over (CM4Morrison).
Motorola really screwed up on that device. Worse off though are the international Cliq users and the CliqXT users. They're stuck on 1.5. What a debacle.
I chose the G2 specifically because of the manufacturer and the dev support. Will probably be running this device for some time, love it.

Queue515 said:
Nice story! I feel your pain. There's a Cliq xt waiting to serve backup duty in the event that my G2 meets an early demise.
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If this phone dies, my backup is an old Palm Centro. And if that fails, it's back to the Samsung D407. So, I take *really* good care of this phone.
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I had my N1 stolen a month ago, and now I'm on my old TyTN 2, with android flashed onto it. Can't wait to pick up my new DZ when I go to the states next month. It's already at home waiting for me.

To round out this story...
I just sold that CLIQ for $100.

You're lucky you've even got that. If my G2 ever breaks and I can't send it in, I'm stuck with an old Samsung T349. But that was a pretty good story there.
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As someone who's been looking to get rid of his Cliq XT but never got around to it, you're a more forgiving man than I. haha

my wife and i both have g2s, the spare is the new motorola cliq in the closet lol

Heh, my Cliq is in my night stand collecting dust. I haven't touched it since I got my G2 about four months ago.
I may break it out though as the guys over at Simply Android have ported over CM7 for it. Curious to see how it runs.

Wow. That story almost matches mine. My G1 crapped out on me, the dev community for the Cliq is tiny at best (with Handler and j_r0dd doing all the work), but my G2 still works and I abuse the f--k out of it. I was thinking of getting either the G2x or the Sidekick 4G next.
Oh, I still use the Cliq...just to make sure my laptop can still read Motorola devices.

How many devs/users we got left?

So how many people we really still have using and working on the vibrant? I'm feeling kinda lonely with my love for this phone =P seems like the vibrant is getting left in the dust allot quick then my G1, which is sad =/
Also side note, anyone else feel like with a SGS there really isn't anything good enough to upgrade to yet? Only phone I'd even consider is the original SGS2 or the sprint SGS2. And those are iffy due to crappy audio. Vibrant is the best phone I own period. Beats my nexus S in everything =P even beats out my HP touchpad easily IMO. Thoughts?
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I feel you man, I'm getting bored of this phone. I will probably upgrade to the muiu phone. Since, it's battery lastes so long.
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I just got the Vibrant about 2 months ago, as my wife's Motorola crapped out on her and our carrier swapped it out for the Vib. She wanted to swap with me, so I did and I have to say that once I upgraded it to a custom ROM, I actually like it a lot. It works well for me and what I want.
I think that most of the Jump-ship is because of boredom and not performance. I feel that and understand it. I have been there myself, but I like this phone and it is really easy to handle, breakdown (mean ADB by this) and there have been some really great customizations out on it.
Plus between the 16gb internal and my 32gb external,that is some serious storage for a phone. My old computer from a few years ago only had 30gb hard drive in it.
I am here and plan on staying for awhile.

I'm still here, kinda. My G2x is my main driver, but i still got my Vibrant and still build kernels when i have time. You're not alone

Mr. Apocalypse said:
I'm still here, kinda. My G2x is my main driver, but i still got my Vibrant and still build kernels when i have time. You're not alone
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But this phones death is due from no updates.from tmobile. it just makes it way harder to develop for....

Go to the galaxy s2 forums ;-) .
You will find most of the great devs from many of the different forums there.
It seems as though Samsung shipped out yet another phone with outdated filmware lol....imagine that,
They are promising to send ics thru kies lmao ....I believe we have been thru this BS before

There are 3 vibrants in my home. My wife upgraded to the sensation and after a week gave it to my son and took her vibrant out of the drawer. I personally love this phone. Thanks to all the devs who still work on it. I have stockpiled my fave roms and kernels....just in case the remaining devs leave
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I just got my Vibrant 2 mth ago from my fren who sold to me. Im not chasing the technology so i tink this phone is great for me. I like it a lot n planning to stay with it for a while longer cos i dont have the 2yrs contract matter. Btw cos im frm Singapore and we dont have Vibrant here so that makes my phone unique than the original SGS..lol. But i really dissapointed on Samsung on the firmware case and yeah this phone if rooted fly high. So i have to say i love my vibrant. Also thanks to all the devs here, appreciated what u guys have done for us n for staying with us making us great customs roms/kernels.

Mr. Apocalypse said:
I'm still here, kinda. My G2x is my main driver, but i still got my Vibrant and still build kernels when i have time. You're not alone
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Any plans for IcS? I'm gonna start working on it today
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ICS for Vibrant? Looking foward to this.lol

this is a great phone and when rooted does everything i've ever wanted a phone to do. although the experience with ICS will more than likely be better I'm still content with what we have so far. there are no hardcore 3d games that have pushed the hardware to the limit so I don't see any real hardware upgrade necessary. I stopped buying games on my vibrant any way cause I wasn't finishing the ones I had bought before and realized I was wasting my money. So i'm simply using it for media apps, social apps etc. These don't really need a dual core processor with 1gig of ram. The only thing I could want is an identical ICS theme and I'd be set at least for another year on this phone even if we don't ever get ICS.

Yeah, I could maybe see myself moving over to the Nexus S simply because it's got a bigger dev community and the T-Mobile version can be found for pretty cheap, but otherwise I just can't justify moving on from the Vibrant. If I don't go for the Nexus S I'll probably ride out with this until more ICS phones come out.

Hey ECOTOX, I've been quietly learning some stuff about Android and whatnot, I wouldn't consider myself a dev, not even close to one, but I'm learning and I catch on quickly, if you need any help, or have any tips, I'm here. I love this phone, and I won't be moving on to any other phone anytime soon.

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Hey ECOTOX, I've been quietly learning some stuff about Android and whatnot, I wouldn't consider myself a dev, not even close to one, but I'm learning and I catch on quickly, if you need any help, or have any tips, I'm here. I love this phone, and I won't be moving on to any other phone anytime soon.
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Pm me and give me the DL on what you can do
=)
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Still here till July 15th of next year. Then I'm off of T-Mobile. In the meantime I put miui on my phone for the first time and it really renewed my love for what this phone can do. Still ready for a new one though.
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If Devs are here im still here just waiting till we get no support at all but i love this phone! best ive ever owned an it was ahead of its time

Jasonhunterx said:
If Devs are here im still here just waiting till we get no support at all but i love this phone! best ive ever owned an it was ahead of its time
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I'll support it as long add a decent amount of people still got it lol
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ECOTOX said:
I'll support it as long add a decent amount of people still got it lol
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Glad to here cant wait for the journey of ics

manlisten said:
Yeah, I could maybe see myself moving over to the Nexus S simply because it's got a bigger dev community and the T-Mobile version can be found for pretty cheap, but otherwise I just can't justify moving on from the Vibrant. If I don't go for the Nexus S I'll probably ride out with this until more ICS phones come out.
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I feel the same. I just don't see a lot of end user support with the Samsung products such as the Vibrant, and many other iterations. Updates seems to either take forever or it'll may never see the light of day. As for developer community? I can't really complain about their support for this device, since they are bringing out the goodies out of their own time with no expectations of donations, etc. And I'm grateful that they are cooking up roms, etc. In the future? I will be purchasing a Google branded phone: prompt updates, and great end user support. I just can't live with a dead end product, just feels like I got cheated out.

Well I just went to T-Mobile store and played with the sgs2 and I must say I'm completely impressed.
With a quadrant score of 2748 stock I'm blown away.
With my shattered screen and assurion's choice of replacement I'm sticking with my broken vibrant with miui ...I'm hoping sgs2 gets miui soon ...but I'm getting antsy and just might go out next week and buy the sgs2 outright