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Hi guys,
I have a question about updating to Froyo once it is available with a rooted phone. Will I have to unroot in order to take advatage of an OTA update or will I be able to upgrade along with the unrooted users?
Does the same thing apply to a phone that is flashed with a custom ROM and Kernal?
I've just rooted my phone and installed wifi tether which was the main reason for me to root.
The appeal extra battery life and the ability to over/underclock is the reason I want to flash a custom rom.
I ask this because although I've succeeded in rooting my Epic I can't seem to boot into the clockworkmod recovery screen and thus not been able to flash a custom rom or kernal. I have yet to try unrooting and starting over from scratch but with Froyo seemingly on the horizon, I don't want to go through all the hassle of trying to get a custom ROM only to have to undo it when Froyo arrives.
Thanks
This has been covered multiple times in this forum.
Devs will likely be coming out with ROMs based on Froyo very soon after the Froyo update.
But if you can't wait till then, you'll have to go back to stock everything (kernel+ROM) to get your phone updated via OTA.
Still not sure about root, but if our phones get de-rooted during the update, someone will also come up with a rooting method quickly.
tonysohn said:
Still not sure about root, but if our phones get de-rooted during the update, someone will also come up with a rooting method quickly.
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My guess is yes, you will lose root as it will flash a new kernel that won't have the rooted initramfs. You will most likely need to re-root using a new method once 2.2 is available. I could be wrong though, nobody knows for sure yet.
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So i was following those announcements about the froyo official update leak, so I went ahead and downloaded it to my Epic 4G, now they are saying that Sprint announced that the leaked update is not approved and therefore shoukd not be downloaded, I want to unroot my phone, but will it unroot it back to the Eclair version successfully or am I going to have problems with the phone?. I've read about the one click rooting and unrooting, but is it really safe to do so?
Whoa... too much here to cover in a small space. Since this appears to be your first post I suggest you start reading. You have many options and with just about as many pitfalls.
Is your phone working ok? If so, why worry now. Wait for a future update.
tsp
monnie27 said:
So i was following those announcements about the froyo official update leak, so I went ahead and downloaded it to my Epic 4G, now they are saying that Sprint announced that the leaked update is not approved and therefore shoukd not be downloaded, I want to unroot my phone, but will it unroot it back to the Eclair version successfully or am I going to have problems with the phone?. I've read about the one click rooting and unrooting, but is it really safe to do so?
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Yeah it's my first post here, but i've been reading instructions on how to root and unroot. My phone is working perfectly fine with the leaked update. However, when Sprint releases the official update, will the rooted phones receive the announcememnt and will we be able to update it? lol
tsperez said:
Whoa... too much here to cover in a small space. Since this appears to be your first post I suggest you start reading. You have many options and with just about as many pitfalls.
Is your phone working ok? If so, why worry now. Wait for a future update.
tsp
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rooting your phone does not block official ota updates, flashing custom kernels and roms will. also if you do not delete any sprint apps (nascar, telenav) you should not have any problems upgrading to new updates ota.
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
TorelliB said:
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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dk28 would be considered a non stock (ie custom) rom
no you will not get the update ota.
TorelliB said:
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
hardrock121 said:
I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
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Lots of super fun havoc
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I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
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so i did the same thing, downloaded the update.zip file, put it in my memory card and updated the phone using the recovery mode, so i'm not rooted just flashed, and wont be able to get the OTA update from Google?, btw im having a bit of troble with the GPS, when i enable it it say im abot 20 blocks away from my actual location, however, when i connect to a wireless network, per say my home network the location is right 0.o
other than that, the phone is working just fine
So the gingerbread update is supposed to come out tonight, and one of the suggestions from moto. Was if your rooted to flash back to to stock software, im on the stock rom and stock everything but with a few rooted apps installed. So should I flash back, or can I just unroot with z4root unroot button. Thanks for the quick reply
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If you care about root, I wouldn't accept the update until they root it. No one knows for sure what exactly will keep the update from working on your phone. If you want the update, Froyo stock unrooted is the safest bet.
There is a thread on what you need in this forum
Thanks for the reply I do want the update, im on the stock froyo with stock kernals. with some rooted apps installed, so I can just hit unroot on z4root and it will uninstall rooted stuff?
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Yes, did you ever flash clockworkmod or bootstrap?
If all you did was root, use z4 to unroot.
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Yeah never flashed with clockwork or anything, the most I did was change the boot animation using root tools but I put it back to the stock one, been waiting for gibgerbread for awhile lol
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Cool thanks for advice, unrooted my phone and will wait for update
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You may not be able to get it rooted however. Be careful
Still telling me update not available .. I'm guessing its due to me deleting the bloat wares.. I've not flashed or cloaked worked anything.. Just root. Delete wares..
Before Froyo, I was rooted and stock everything. (I really just wanted wi-fi tether and titanium backup). the OTA still worked fine, obviously I lost root, but I didn't lose anything else. Assuming you haven't flashed a new rom nor deleted stock apps, you should be fine. I don't think there's a way for the OTA to differentiate phones if they have the same basebands...
Ok this explains a lot...
If people aren't able to update.. this maybe why..
Copy and past this link.. i dont have enough posts to link to it.. ±★★gottabemobile.com/2011/05/27/droid-x-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-tonight-but-not-for-everyone
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Still telling me update not available .. I'm guessing its due to me deleting the bloat wares.. I've not flashed or cloaked worked anything.. Just root. Delete wares..
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Be careful. You won't be able to upgrade if you deleted bloatware as it checks for system integrity before updating.
Thanks for testing it for us! Running nice and stable on apex, going wait and see if the new "bugs" are worth updating to.
i just got my over the air gingerbread question is before i update should i go back to stock rom and also unroot??
will i lose my root if i update?
Yes you should, and yes you will. Good Luck!
if im already on stock rom but rooted should i unroot before update? I dont want to brick it.
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Do not apply the update, you will loose root and would be a while before it would be rerooted. Just watit for the rooted version of the update to be posted here, that will happen way before the update to be rooted if u apply the update. Be patient, wouldnt be surprised if the rooted flashable update is posted today or tomorrow.
^^ Yeah dont make that mistake like i did. LOL
Guys help me ,
I have Motorola Atrix 4g running with froyo 2.2.2 ... Yesterday I receive notice via OTA that gingerbread ready to download ... After download finish I'm install the package but the package failed .. Stuck at android logo with triangle .. Why can someone help me ... I'm running rooted froyo 2.2.2 Asia version ...
Once you root you dont get updates ota anymore, you get them here at XDA.
WiredPirate said:
Once you root you dont get updates ota anymore, you get them here at XDA.
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So i need to unroot isn't? Tq bro for info ...
You can do an OTA update any time you want, you just have to have a stock version running on your phone. When you do an OTA update it checks and verifies your phone to see if everything is there that needs to be there. If you're running a non stock ROM, it'll fail. If you're running a Fruitcake, it'll fail. If you want to OTA, which...there are other ways to upgrade, but...if you WANT to OTA, flash the Froyo .sbf to get back to stock. Since you're on Froyo. Or you can flash the Gingerbread .sbf to upgrade that way, or...do it online at the website.
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You can do an OTA update any time you want, you just have to have a stock version running on your phone. When you do an OTA update it checks and verifies your phone to see if everything is there that needs to be there. If you're running a non stock ROM, it'll fail. If you're running a Fruitcake, it'll fail. If you want to OTA, which...there are other ways to upgrade, but...if you WANT to OTA, flash the Froyo .sbf to get back to stock. Since you're on Froyo. Or you can flash the Gingerbread .sbf to upgrade that way, or...do it online at the website.
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thanks for the info .. but im running stock ROM froyo 2.2.2 just rooted only ...
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thanks for the info .. but im running stock ROM froyo 2.2.2 just rooted only ...
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Then unroot .. Then update should work,, If u used Gringerbreak.apk there was option to unroot in setting of app..
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Then unroot .. Then update should work,, If u used Gringerbreak.apk there was option to unroot in setting of app..
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yup im using Gringerbreak.apk tu root .. can u teach me how to unroot .. i can find the option that yours said ..
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Once you root you dont get updates ota anymore, you get them here at XDA.
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i was rooted and i still got the OTA update for gingerbread... i had no problem installing... just needed to re-root
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i was rooted and i still got the OTA update for gingerbread... i had no problem installing... just needed to re-root
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same like me ..i got the OTA .. but failed to install it .. stuck at andriod robot with triangle ... .. i need tu pull out batt in oder to turn back the phone ... any solution ??
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i was rooted and i still got the OTA update for gingerbread... i had no problem installing... just needed to re-root
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No guarentee you will be able to root again after each ota, its just a general RULE of all custom firmware, once you root/jailbreak/whatever your device, you no longer get updates from official sources, you get them from custom sources same as you got root. Of course you CAN do whatever you want but that doesnt mean you arent gonna f*** something up. For example: the first three updates for the Atrix you would have been f***ed accepting the ota beofre running "retain root" software. Just fyi, you may have only lost root accepting the ota (this time), but you still did it wrong. Read and learn. Follow the rule for all devices, or you WILL without a doubt eventually cause yourself more trouble than if you just did it the right way the first time! And the right way, again, is: Once you root you dont accept ota updates, you get your updates here at XDA.
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i was rooted and i still got the OTA update for gingerbread... i had no problem installing... just needed to re-root
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same here.