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[HTC Magic 32A] Different rooting methods are NOT working

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Android Phone Info
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.07.29
Background
I bought my HTC Magic in Singapore (through SingTel) about 6 months ago. About a month ago I used the HTC software ROM update to update my HTC Android 1.5 to HTC Sense UI 1.5 (NB: the android firmware version remained the same but I am now using HTCs Sense UI).
I finally decided to root yesterday and since then the problems have begun!
Just so things were "clean" I restored my phone to factory settings. However, I cannot figure out how to go back to the stock 1.5 (ie. the one that DOES NOT use Sense UI). So, now I am on a basic (without any modifications) version of Sense UI.
One-Click Method
I then tried this to root my phone with the 1-click method
When I click on “Backup recovery image” I got the “Failed” message. So, I clicked on the hidden asterix and tried to flash the image but I got the same message again. Essentially, this did not work for me. I posted on the comment thread (just yesterday) but have not gotten a response on it yet.
Method on XDA Forum
Then I looked around and found this more "complicated" method and found an HTC Sapphire Hacking wiki post which seemed easy enough to follow.
I generally use linux but just to be sure I followed the guide to the letter I booted up XP.
Everything worked fine until I got to this command: C:\AndroidSDK> fastboot boot recovery-rom.img
I got the following error message: fastboot failed, remote: not allow
Solutions?
I have looked all over this forum and a few others and have found this can be because of the "perfected SPL", however, as far as I know my SPL is 1.76.0007 and NOT the 1.33 "problem" SPLs.
I have NO idea what I should do now. I really want to root my phone but I am completely stuck as the simple method does not work, nor does the "complex" method
Any help on this matter would be very much appreciated

HTC Magic 32A
The same issues with me, i am currently stuck with the Sense UI with no way to root my magic and i have tried everything possible.
If you find a solution please do let me know

Is yours singtel? I think the updated Sense UI rom may have blocked it. I can't find a way of getting back to the stock rom.

I am not sure if it is singtel, but when I first got it before installing the sense rom, the boot screen says AirTel. I am not sure if this is the same but that's what I see.
There is nothing wrong with the Sense UI rom but I just need to have root.
Anyway I will keep looking for solution because I am sure that one of these developers will eventually find a way to root but till then I might just get the nexus one. From what am hearing and reading the phone is pretty simple to unlock and root.

Don't really want to buy a new phone just to root!
Airtel may be from India

Yeh, I think it is from there because I few forums I have visited mentioned India.
Well am not only getting the nexus one for the root capabilities, is just that the performance of the phone is amazing and I am a loyal fan/customer to HTC and Android and I cant wait to have one of that bad boy for myself.

perfected spl me thinks

Do you think? But, I thought it was only certain 1.33 builds?

Can no-one help with rooting my phone?
I have the weekend and I'd be willing to try something complicated.
Actually Singtel has given 12gb free data per month which means that wifi tethering is a really reasonable option and I want to set this up. Hence, I would really like the ability to root my phone.

There's (as for now) no way to root that SPL.

yeah same here,im also from singapore and having problems rooting.
could one of you technology gurus help us out?
seems like a waste if we cant root this phone =(

Wouldn't say it's a waste haha. But, I would like to use 1.6 (and then later 2.1) and also perhaps use tethering and other cool features!

PurpleFries said:
This is how i got mine working from perfected spl->custom rom
If you want a different rom, dont follow the last 2 links, and find whatever you want to flash, after the first 2 links you will have a non-perfected spl and be able to flash whatever your heart desires.
There are easier ways to do this if you are not running windows 7. Apparently theres a way using htc sync, but i cant get it working, even with all of the fixes that people have claimed work for them
PurpleFries said:
u can have a sense ui running on 1.5, if you are only concerned with how it looks. Just flash the cursorsence rom, if u have 32a phone. ensure u dont have a perfect spl. If you did the rogers dream->magic switch, likely you have a 32a phone with 1.33.0010 perfect spl. you must get rid of this first.
here's some links to help you out as i did this process yesterday. took me a helluva long time.
Goldcard Method
Fix perfected spl using this goldcard
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RADIO AND SPL!!!!!.
Radio and spl upgrade
Cursorsence
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For the video in that link, watch up until the point where he tests the goldcard by putting it back into his computer to see if it opens. You don't need to follow his instructions past there
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This is a direct copypasta of one of my other posts, so sorry if some of it doesnt have anythign to do with you.
Just follow the guide in the second link after making a goldcard using the video in the first link.
MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW EVERYTHING EXACTLY!!!!!

Will that goldcard method work? I mean I know there are never any guarantees but I'd like a general idea if you can manage it of whether it'll work or not. Don't really want to waste hours on it as it seems REALLY complicated!

abhiroopb said:
Will that goldcard method work? I mean I know there are never any guarantees but I'd like a general idea if you can manage it of whether it'll work or not. Don't really want to waste hours on it as it seems REALLY complicated!
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It doesn't work so don't waste your time. I've tried

Is there NO method to root this at all?

my touch 3g fender need root
hello over the past couple of days I seen many ways to root the 32a but I tried and still no luck.Does anyone have a guaranteed way of getting this working.I thought the process was going to be simple.To jailbreak a Iphone all you all to do is donwload the software and click on the file that simple why can't teh android platform be the same

ermm same as me ... using same version but mine is Malaysia unit

So, I purchased a MT4G. Now what?

Just purchased (again if you will, lol) a MT4G...if you read my other thread, you'd know I'm a total noob to Android, having had an iphone since the first one was able to get unlocked. So, I'm behind the times on these.
What do I do first? What are the things I need to do? Download? What are some other sites I should/need to know about? Enlighten me, please

bballcat03 said:
Just purchased (again if you will, lol) a MT4G...if you read my other thread, you'd know I'm a total noob to Android, having had an iphone since the first one was able to get unlocked. So, I'm behind the times on these.
What do I do first? What are the things I need to do? Download? What are some other sites I should/need to know about? Enlighten me, please
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First of all welcome!
well the number one site for all things android is XDA Developers so you are in the right place
if you want full customization ability, the first thing you need to do is root your phone. This will let you uninstall "uninstallable apps", and change almost every aspect of your phone. after doing this, you can install a custom recovery letting you do full backups (aka, nandroid). also rooting your phone with a custom recovery will let you flash new roms, which will let you change the complete android experience. flashing will also let you upgrade to the new 2.3 Gingerbread version of android.
Everything you need can be found here (the "everything" link i keep mentioning):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866175
Rooting:
There are many ways to root. check the "everything" link for guides:
1. True Permroot and S-Off is the fullest root (what most people prefer, and also unlocks your phone to use with other companies sim cards.
2. Guide to permroot...the lighter version of the true permroot
3. visionary+, this is the easiest way to obtain permroot (identical to number 2 but is an app for easy accomplishment)
check out the guide in the "everything" link under the "rooting and s-off section" if you have trouble
Recovery 2.x.x.x (you will need 3.0.0.x if you want to use a gingerbread rom see further details):
To flash Clockwork Recoery (aka custom recovery), root your phone and download rom manager from the market, then click flash recovery. if this doesnt work, check the "everything" you need link for installing clockwork recovery through adb (adb is the command prompt delvelopment for android, the link on how to set that up is also in the "everything" link
Installing Recovery 3.0.0.x (for gingerbread/ CM7)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919834
Rom Explanation: (not every rom is explained here, but the major ones are)
Iced Glacier: Same basic rom you have without the junk files and it is deodexed (optimized)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
MIUI: A chinese rom ported to the mytouch 4g (two versions available, Gr8Gorilla and eVilD's, but both are the same basic thing)
evilD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874257
Gr8Gorilla - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924610
CM6: Android without mySense or anyother manufacturer customizations, but has many user-demanded cusomizations. This is FROYO, aka android 2.2
DesireHD/Gorilla Sens port: This a froyo, Sense UI Port, this is pretty much the rom that comes on the HTC Evo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841036
G2 Port: this is just like CM6, but without any customizations
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877620
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903295
CM7/Gingerbread: This is CM6, but on gingerbread. (my favorite )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916930

I'm gonna follow this thread because I will be buying a MT4G soon as well... or the Vibrant...

@VibrantOwnr
THANKS! That will give me plenty to read about and go over on the train tomorrow!

[Q] New to Rooting, read guides, still need help :(

Hello all.
I have an original MyTouch 3G with NO headphone jack. I just got it off eBay and it is running 2.2, with an update notification to update to 2.2.1 which i HAVE NOT yet done.
I have read through multiple rooting guides for this phone, but as someone who has never used those programs and never rooted it is still confusing.
This is what my fastboot screen says:
Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT - 1.33.0013 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO- 2.22.27.08
Main thing I want to do is root the phone so I can set the CPU to underclock for battery savings and overclock when in use to the highest stable speed (high 500's?). The phone can't run a game to save it's life right now on stock 2.2 (OTA T-Mobile).
Questions:
1.) Do I need to flash a new ROM to Overclock?
2.) If I do, how does CM 6.1 Stable work for this phone? One big guide says to use 5.08 but I wanted a froyo build (or ideally GB, but I doubt that exists for this phone).
3.) I have yet to understand what a kernel is, which one I would want, and at what point in the process you actually do anything with the kernel file.
Consideration: The phone I received was already activated I guess, considering the first thing I needed to do what put it my SIM and log into google. I was able to do this over WIFI, ***I do NOT have a data plan, nor will I buy one*** Please keep that in mind when responding.
Please help out a new guy. I would love to understand these things so I can someday pay it forward and help someone new like I once was.

Questions: and answers
1.) Do I need to flash a new ROM to Overclock?
not necessarily but yes you do so u can chage your kernal to over clock
2.) If I do, how does CM 6.1 Stable work for this phone? One big guide says to use 5.08 but I wanted a froyo build (or ideally GB, but I doubt that exists for this phone).
its very great im using cm6.1 now
3.) I have yet to understand what a kernel is, which one I would want, and at what point in the process you actually do anything with the kernel file.
it's the lowest level of software before hardware. It's the portion of the OS that handles drivers and hardware control and access for the rest of the OS.

I got him taken care of last week, but thanks for the input, but you don't need a new ROM to overclock, just a new kernel.
Sent from my Optimis T using Tapatalk.

DonJuan692006 said:
I got him taken care of last week, but thanks for the input, but you don't need a new ROM to overclock, just a new kernel.
Sent from my Optimis T using Tapatalk.
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didn't know stock rom would expect the kernel change now im thinking why would they lol idk
btw guess some noobs never learn

[Q] Help a n00b

Well this is my very first post/thread on XDA so hello all
I have been told to visit this site if I need help so, here I am.
Okay so I have just signed up for a contract which includes the HTC Wildfire. I want to update it to 2.2 (comes with 2.1 if I'm not mistaken)
I have read up as much as I can but it all really means mumble jumble to me. Anyway I have been told (by a friend) that I must first root the 2.1 and then download the 2.2 and put it in a recovery file. It this correctt?
If so how do you root a phone? Do you just download a file and run it? Also what is the best one to use because I have been reading up and there seem to be an awful lot of different ones.
Now I need to update it to 2.2, how? Is it a case of downloading a file and running it on the phone or what?
Also does any of this void the warranty on the phone?
What are the advantages of going this whole rout rather than just pushing the update button and letting the phone update it's self to 2.2? (Is it just so you can download paid apps for free or is there more?)
Thanks in advance guys
Mikrouwel

if you don't know which version you get, it's a bit early to ask question, as if its a wildfire froyo with hboot ver. 1.01 you already updated. And can't root it as yet.
If it's a wildfire eclair with hboot ver 0.8 you root it and put on a special ruu img file that doesn't change the hboot 0.8 to 1.01.
But ofcource this you've would already have known if you had searched the forums.
Sorry to say so, this is also my first post on xda, but i've been able to read and search......

Firstly, it seems your basic concepts are all muddled. There's no method which you will use which allows you to install "Paid Apps for Free". I have no idea where you heard it, but, to do that, you don't need 2.2, or any special ROM.
Secondly, there are two methods to get 2.2:
1: The official route: This is the route which you think will allow you to download paid apps for free (i.e. by simply clicking update on the OTA Notification). Although nothing of that sort happens. Anyway, back on point, if you do this, you will officially get froyo 2.2, but, most of the features of froyo will be disabled (eg: JIT), and, you will not be able to root your phone, and, in this process, install root apps, custom ROM's etc.
2: The unofficial way - In this, you will have to root your phone and put a Custom ROM. The advantages are many fold - You can get a ROM to your own liking, which is fast and free of bloat, and, customize it exactly to your liking, apart from many additional features like true Apps2SD, Live Wallpapers, Ability to completely backup, overclock and underclock your phone etc. Further, you can even get Android 2.3.2 Gingerbread, if you wish
Obviously, now, it is upto you which method you take, but, if you want to learn to root and install Custom ROM's, refer this guide, and just read it completely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396

Okay thanks very much
Mikrouwel

[Q] Wildfire Questions

Hello everybody, this is my first post on this forum although I am following it for a long time (WinMO and also happy owner of an HTC Desire).
I recently bought a second phone, a Wildfire (new with the stock 2.1 ROM on it) and have few questions about it that I could not figure out in the last few days by reading the forum.
Ok so everybody knows that the stock 2.1 ROM is kind of bad, but
1)how is the 2.2.1 official release?
If I upgrade it then hboot will upgrade as well to ver.1.01 and bye bye S-Off.
2)Is it possible to first root it plus S-Off and then put the 2.2.1 official release on it?
3) will this change the hboot and block it again?
I ask all of this because I like the sense interface in htc phones. I know Jokerdroid ROM exists and uses sense and is really good.
4) In this case is it worth even trying official 2.2.1?
5) What other ROMs using Sense are there available?
Thank you everybody for help!
And sorry but I could not find the answers anywhere, but hope this thread will help others as well.

1) No difference, except updated HBoot with increased security, WiFi hotspot and Froyo Apps2SD
2) Probably, but I dunno why would you want to do that. Safe Flash ZIPs are much better, since they are the same as the official 2.2.1 release, with just the updated bootloader removed.
3) If you root and put official 2.2.1, it will be blocked. But, if you get S-OFF (Using an XTC Clip, presumably), it wont be blocked, since that S-OFF is permenant.
4) Absolutely not. There are more complaints than benefits, on this forum itself.
5) Too many to list. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318

Allex_master said:
1)how is the 2.2.1 official release?
If I upgrade it then hboot will upgrade as well to ver.1.01 and bye bye S-Off.
2)Is it possible to first root it plus S-Off and then put the 2.2.1 official release on it?
3) will this change the hboot and block it again?
I ask all of this because I like the sense interface in htc phones. I know Jokerdroid ROM exists and uses sense and is really good.
4) In this case is it worth even trying official 2.2.1?
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1). Even if u won't upgrade to 2.2.1 , there is no free S-OFF solution for wildfire yet (even for the 2.1 wildfire). Alpharev for wildfire is yet to be released. Almost all the wildfires u see S-OFF are done with paid xtc clip. And there is no software root solution yet for hboot 1.01 with S-ON.
2). Again how is S-OFF possible. If u mean it by xtc clip, u don't need to worry at all. Once done with xtc clip, u can do anything u want.
3). Again when done S-OFF with xtc clip, no blocking at all.
4). My suggestion was don't ever try upgrading to official froyo. And if u want to S-OFF by xtc clip, u can try. But personally i won't recommend u to upgrade to official froyo, and certainly i wont recommend u to go with xtc clip in a situation like this. Having a new 2.1 wildfire at the moment is really lucky. Just root with unrevoked and enjoy custom roms. Everyone of us will soon have S-OFF by alpharev.
And u know what, regarding free S-OFF solutions , the ones with hboot 1.01 have only alpharev x option (its also the root solution for these) but the ones with hboot 0.80 have both alpharev 2 and alpharev x option. Suppose, if alpharev x is released earlier (may not be), those with hboot 0.80 can upgrade to 1.01 and use it.

So practically in my case there is no need to change it to S-Off. I thought Unrevoked does this anyway.
So then why is it necessary to have S-off?
if you can root on hboot 0.80 without having S-off?
Sorry I am really confused now.

Allex_master said:
So practically in my case there is no need to change it to S-Off. I thought Unrevoked does this anyway.
So then why is it necessary to have S-off?
if you can root on hboot 0.80 without having S-off?
Sorry I am really confused now.
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Actually the point that S-OFF is highlighted for wildfire these days is just to have custom roms on hboot 1.01 (because it is hightly protected and not yet rootable)
The unrevoked for previous hboot 0.80 uses an exploit to push the custom recovery and also push the required root files (like su binary) into the system folders so that they will be re-locked in the system folders giving su permissions to the user. But this kind of exploit is not yet made for hboot 1.01 . So it is unrootable with software methods. The only present way to root it is to disable the nand protection by xtc clip (thus making the system folders writable).
And of course s-off has lot advantages over just rooting. S-OFF skips the signature check of files to be updated. Can change the splash screen. Enables the fastboot extended commands. etc..,
edit: And no. Unrevoked forever is not present for wildfire to make it S-OFF (even for hboot 0.80)

OK Thanks! That is clear for me now. I will give a try to few custom ROMs in the next few days.