I know there is 1.5GB of internal memory on the device, but since some is used for OS, how much usable memory is there in the stock OS. I am trying to think of if I should get the Desire HD or Inspire 4g (I recently found out that even though the Inspire has 4GB of ROM, only about 1GB is usable)
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Its about 1gb but i think most of them are shipped with an 8gb sd card, mine came with the card so not really worried.
dortok said:
I know there is 1.5GB of internal memory on the device, but since some is used for OS, how much usable memory is there in the stock OS. I am trying to think of if I should get the Desire HD or Inspire 4g (I recently found out that even though the Inspire has 4GB of ROM, only about 1GB is usable)
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That's approximately 1.1GB ( I forgot the exact number closest to megabytes) out of the box.
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rumours say the ram is 512mb, others say 256mb, some say 192mb, tmobile.com doesnt say anything..
does anyone have an answer for me? this is a perfect phone, the htc magic with a flashlight, 3.5mm jack, and a keyboard plus it works with wind mobile in canada..
but i dont want a slow device, 32b magic boards are terribly slow with just 192mb and my 32a magic is pretty decent with 256..if this device has 600mhz processor with 512mb ram then it should be flying..
Thats part of the mystery. The phone supposedly has 512 internal, but a lot of it is used up by the Sense bloat, and by a lot of the TMobile stuff here in the States. Mine out of the box had roughly 150mb internally available , and I am down to about 100mb free with some apps installed.
With that said, this thing is still pretty darn snappy. And when 2.2/Froyo comes along, it will have apps2sd available, which will help increase your internally available memory too. I'd say to go to a store and check it out, you'll be surprised how fast it is.
Reviews are claiming this phone runs faster then all the other android phones out there right now. Even with all the crap you can't uninstall from t-mobile its still very fast. I have yet to experiance any noticable lag.
No regrets here, I am glad my mytouch 3g died
145 m available for programs after hard reset....at least that's what mine had!
Android System Info on mine says 419MB of RAM. In the Slide's owner's manual it says 512MB of RAM.
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rumours say the ram is 512mb, others say 256mb, some say 192mb, tmobile.com doesnt say anything..
does anyone have an answer for me? this is a perfect phone, the htc magic with a flashlight, 3.5mm jack, and a keyboard plus it works with wind mobile in canada..
but i dont want a slow device, 32b magic boards are terribly slow with just 192mb and my 32a magic is pretty decent with 256..if this device has 600mhz processor with 512mb ram then it should be flying..
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Well the 145mb is how much internal storage you have for apps. It does have 512 for RAM. If I kill all my apps that are running I would have 250+ of RAM free. And this phone flies. I might kill all apps once a day and the phone stays fast at even 60mb of RAM free. No worries.
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i think the rom is colossal at 300MB + causing us to only have 150 free
im at 0 free no more apps unless i uninstall. and the phone still flys
The phone is snappy.
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i think the rom is colossal at 300MB + causing us to only have 150 free
im at 0 free no more apps unless i uninstall. and the phone still flys
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Yes i'm outta internal storage as well.need an apps2sd solution or root to remove all this bloatware.
RAM and storage are two completely different things. It has 512MB of both. Mine is showing 418MB of system ram, the rest presumably used for video, and the storage is partitioned into /system, /cache, and /data which is all that is usable for apps.
My tw taskmanager shows only 340mb ram instead of 512mb, after some research I found that the rest of the ram is used for ramdisk,is that true?
If so,is there a way to use all of 512mb for ram?And does this make Epic inferior to Vibrant,Captivate and Fascinate or better?
All Galaxy S phones have 512 MBs of RAM. And I do believe all are the same. At least the i9000 and the Epic are.
The phone has a physical 512MB of RAM, but I don't believe that the stock kernel currently supports more than 340MB.
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All Galaxy S phones have 512 MBs of RAM. And I do believe all are the same. At least the i9000 and the Epic are.
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Check your built in taskmanager(by holding home button),it only shows 324mb total ram,so no they not all the same.Yes we do have 512mb but only 324mb(give or take few mb) is used for actual ram,the rest is used as ramdisk(cache).Vibrant and Captivate uses whole 512mb as ram and internal rom(hd) for cache,im not sure about original Galaxy or Fascinate.
Believe me extra ram not being available has huge impact on performance,i owned MT3gs with 512mb ram and 600mhz cpu and it felt just as fast as my Epic if not faster even with Sense.
This could explain big lag im getting with 4-5 apps open,i could have 10 apps open on Mytouch slide with no lag.
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Check your built in taskmanager(by holding home button),it only shows 324mb total ram,so no they not all the same.Yes we do have 512mb but only 324mb(give or take few mb) is used for actual ram,the rest is used as ramdisk(cache).Vibrant and Captivate uses whole 512mb as ram and internal rom(hd) for cache,im not sure about original Galaxy or Fascinate.
Believe me extra ram not being available has huge impact on performance,i owned MT3gs with 512mb ram and 600mhz cpu and it felt just as fast as my Epic if not faster even with Sense.
This could explain big lag im getting with 4-5 apps open,i could have 10 apps open on Mytouch slide with no lag.
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There is a reason why. There is no dalvik cache push to sd for our devices yet. If we could get an ext2 or ext3 or ext 4 for our sd cards and move the cache there, it would be a whole new ball game. But it's no availible for us yet
Maybe to balance the phones out because epic has 2 cameras and keyboard
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I wonder if other models have same ram or they have full 512mb of usable ram without ramdisk,and does that makes epic faster or slower?
I know my MT3gs was way faster with stock sense 600mhz cpu and 512 ram(without sd cache),sounds like this phone needs that extra 128+ram because extra ram makes more difference than faster cpu,324mb ram I dont think is sufficient for 2.1 to run smoothly.Hope someone comes up with something so we can use whole 512mb as ram and internal rom or sd for cache.
The reason why we have only 320 showing is because samsung moved the cache there to prevent the lag some people here talkming about the galaxy s having.
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EPIC FAIL ...325 for me :-(
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supposedly the GPU uses 128mb of the ram
All 5 galaxy s phones have 512mb but the epic and fascinate are limited to the 300 and something because our phones are the only ones that don't have a massive amount of internal sd like the others. We ours uses the more typical smaller amount of rom and the missing ram is used to stop touchwiz from lagging! Why do manufacturers and carriers keep ****ing up android!? Love this device but I can customize it myself just fine without the extra tw layer eating my resources and slowing my upgrade releases!
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We have 512mb rom which can be used for cache,i have all the apps I need installed in /system/app folder and still have 400mb free,how much should be dedicated to android swap 128,256?So there is plenty of room and for those people that have about 100 apps on they phone they need to wait for a2sd.
Still no one has answered if its possible to use whole 512mb for ram,this phone really neads it,most of the time I have 3-4 apps open and about 80mb ram free-thats not good.Epic has fastets rom out of any model,now if we could use it for cache and a2sd for apps,plus whole 512mb as ram,than this thing would fly.128 for swap is a waste,plus I think that this 128mb actualy takes away from GPU's vram.
I agree that we need more RAM. There has to be a way to edit the kernel and get more out of our hardware.
Note that beside the Internal Memory Specs of 1.5 GB for the HTC Desire Z you will notice a number 1. This refers you down to the bottom of the specs page where it states: "1. The actual available internal phone storage may differ depending on the software configuration of your phone." Link
I believe the there is no difference in the internal phone storage of the G2 and the Desire Z. I concur that the new HTC Sense 3.0 on the Desire Z probably takes up a lot more space than the stock Android 2.2. Hence the difference in software configuration.
Did you mean to start a new thread? Anyway my reply again
Does that mean you could provide more ram to the OS (as in instead of the 512MB the Z has while the HD has 768MB) you could up both to say 1GB with a software hack?
I really am clueless when it comes to how these modern phone devices allocate memory internally.
Did you mean to start a new thread? Anyway my reply again
Does that mean you could provide more ram to the OS (as in instead of the 512MB the Z has while the HD has 768MB) you could up both to say 1GB with a software hack?
I really am clueless when it comes to how these modern phone devices allocate memory internally.
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Internal phone storage is ROM. RAM is not changeable. I am talking about the Internal phone storage not RAM. I am also talking about the Desire Z and G2 and not the Desire HD.
I think that there's a bit of confusion.
Probably the Desire Z has got two internal NANDs like my good old HTC Diamond...
In HTCDiamond there was a NAND for the OS itself and a...umh...can't remember the capacity, but there was another NAND, on WiMo called "Internal storage" (that wasn't recognized as SDCard but as INTERNAL STORAGE) for other data storage like CABs, music etc, used like an SDCard.
I mean, probably in Desire Z the Android OS, system apps and kernel are stored on a low capacity but fast NAND, while installed market apps (and it seems even some parts of HTCSense) and other things are stored in the high capacity (absolutely not slow..surely faster than a Class6 MicroSD) 1.5GB NAND, mantaining the possibility to extend its storage inserting a MicroSD that will be recognized as mmcblk (SD/MMC) normally.
But hey, see the HTC HD2, EU and TMOUS versions: NAND was different but not RAM (SW limited in EU radios)!
After all, we'll never know if there's anything limited/locked, at least if we won't get a device in our hands. The only method to have some things clear in our mind is getting a Desire Z and examinating it, SW and HW parts (HW disassemble for seeing what's written on RAM / NAND chips for a better knowledge?).
Well, I highly doubt your thesis, as the difference between the G2 and the Desire Z is 2.5 GB of storage.
There's simply no way of Sense taking up that much space.
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May I point everyone to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8390877&postcount=11
I know its not concrete proof of both devices having 1.5GB but its interesting??
T-Mobile appears to be shipping G2's with the Desire Z NAND unintentionally... If you would like to see how they make it work I posted /proc/partitions in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8396242&postcount=25
Not sure why in the world they chunk a phone int 28 partitions, but there you have it.
I suspect this is similar, if not identical to the Desire Z NAND layout as system has plenty of room for Sense in this case...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8396306&postcount=26 for the /proc/mounts.
I still I'm wondering where is the 4GB internal memory the G2 suposely has, and yes tmobile did say froyo doesn't allow more than 2GBs of internal mem for the phone to use so we had 1.2 gb out of the box the other .8 was probably used up by the OS so ok that's good. However after playing with the G2x I notice it has 5gb internal mem! So really froyo does not allow more than 2gbs? Or is tmo BS-ing us!!!
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The G2 does indeed have 4GB of internal storage, but not all of it is visible to the operating system. The internal memory (/dev/block/mmcblk0) shows up as 2256 MB which place it solidly in the this-is-4GB-of-memory camp.
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/2062/t-mobile-g2-memory-2gb-or-4gb
Hi,
I bought a Lenovo Thinkpad tabled with memory specifications of 1GB RAM and 16GB HDD. All nice, until I go in Settings and check at settings/applications/storage use/running and all which show a disappointing values of total memory ~550MB RAM (almost half...) and ~12GB (almost 25% less...).
For HDD, I can not accept that the rest of 4GB are hidden because are used by Android 3.1 or used by file system format. Even so, Lenovo should be honest and declare total memory against available memory even is "eaten" by various reasons.
For RAM, I can not find any explanation why I see only half.
Q1-Can somebody explain me if tablet is faulty or has a kind of manufacturing issue ?
Q2-Can somebody to check if his tablet has the same memory discrepancies versus manufacturer specifications ?
Thanks!
All tablet's have this "cheaty" way of listing specs. But if you buy a laptop and it says 200gb. You can be pretty sure that windows 7 or what ever is installed is taking up space. The same applies to RAM. While the system may come with 4gb ram, the system has "eaten" som of it.
So, I don't really see the complaint here?
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All tablet's have this "cheaty" way of listing specs. But if you buy a laptop and it says 200gb. You can be pretty sure that windows 7 or what ever is installed is taking up space. The same applies to RAM. While the system may come with 4gb ram, the system has "eaten" som of it.
So, I don't really see the complaint here?
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The specs will never match the actual available memory since there is always space allocated to system whether it be ram or hdd
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For RAM, I can not find any explanation why I see only half.
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It's likely that the other half is being reserved as video memory.
Hi,
Thanks for reply. I've done a check on other tablets and they show the same lower memory than spec, except Asus 501 I think with ICS 4.
However, I think it should be specified total phisical memory and available memory.
sorinutzu said:
Hi,
Thanks for reply. I've done a check on other tablets and they show the same lower memory than spec, except Asus 501 I think with ICS 4.
However, I think it should be specified total phisical memory and available memory.
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Total available ram will be different and much less than the specs on any Android or mobile device. The system uses memory to load OS and for graphics.
Also the memory space will be less formatted and with all the system apps.
Just like a formatted hard drive or ssd is less than spec.
I do not know why people still complain about these things it is pretty ignorant. Have you ever owned a computer, tablet or cell phone before?
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