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Hi Guys,
just wondering, does anyone have a desire Z on orange UK? I was wondering if the phones are sent out with orange software etc rather than plain android operating system? I know the older phones orange used to brand them by not just the sticker but also their software...
Also are the phones normally simlocked?
One more thing - how has your experiance been in orange network? I have seen some complaints as to getting internet can be slow etc... Not sure if this is the right place to ask but would like to know...
I am planning to move to a desire z on orange - currently got a htc touch hd on O2.
Thanks for your help!
Orange as a network are not too bad, and are getting slowly better again.
Their phones will be sim locked, and also while locked you won't be able to install any new radio firmware on your phone (they just won't work).
They have been known to use their own launcher lately, however sense will still be installed so you can swap to htc's stock launcher, not sure on what they are doing with the Z though.
I have an unbranded unlocked z and running on orange, the signal is fantastic.
I got mine from Mobiles.co.uk and all their handsets are supposed to be unlocked and unbranded. Mine is definately unbranded but haven't tested if it's unlocked.
Do Orange even sell the DZ ? I can see the DHD on their website, so I guess there's a good chance the DZ is following behind.
Remember that coverage can vary greatly, depending on where you are. See if you can borrow a phone from someone you know who has Orange, to test the signal out in your area. Or get a free pay-as-you-go SIM from Orange to test out the signal before you commit. Orange and T-Mobile are merging, so their coverage should improve through that.
Orange is terrible where I am and Vodafone is good, but if I moved somewhere else it could easily be the other way round.
Well Orange and T-Mobile have/are merging so they will have the best coverage in the country come March.
Lennyuk said:
Well Orange and T-Mobile have/are merging so they will have the best coverage in the country come March.
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Well, if they both had dodgy coverage in a particular area, then with the merger they'll still have dodgy coverage there. So I'm not sure it's that simple ?
steviewevie said:
Well, if they both had dodgy coverage in a particular area, then with the merger they'll still have dodgy coverage there. So I'm not sure it's that simple ?
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how many places in the country don't get either signal though? only places right in the sticks would fail to get a signal.
Lennyuk said:
how many places in the country don't get either signal though? only places right in the sticks would fail to get a signal.
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You'd be suprised. For example, in my house the Orange and T-Mobile signals are bad (had them before), but Vodafone is fine. Similarly a friend's house in a different part of the country has the same issue (Vodafone isn't that great there, but a lot better than the Orange/T-Mobile signals).
Orange vs T-Mobile
Thanks guys... well I was planning to get the phone from CPW - like mentioned it is not offered directly from orange.
T mobile has good offers for the phone as well... but have read that when getting the phone from places like CPW, they cap the speed of data which has me concerned. Otherwise their 1GB allowance is definitely more attractive to try out.
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?
Audette said:
Thanks guys... well I was planning to get the phone from CPW - like mentioned it is not offered directly from orange.
T mobile has good offers for the phone as well... but have read that when getting the phone from places like CPW, they cap the speed of data which has me concerned. Otherwise their 1GB allowance is definitely more attractive to try out.
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?
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I am currently on ORange in Dundee with a Pro2, data and voice been fine almost anywhere in the city (3G loses a bit when I'm in the middle of my house but it IS a new build so the attic is extra thick for insulation. However I noticed that when I set up the T-Mobile/Orange roaming a few weeks ago, it picks up a strong T-Mobile signal in the places it couldn't before. Now I have taken out a Desire Z via MobilePhonesDirect.co.uk on T-Mobile and I'm still using the Orange SIM in the Desire until my contract runs out come February and it's given me no problems. Simply roams to T-Mobile in several consistent blackspots... Once the T-Mobile 3G can be used on Orange it'll be even better!
Audette said:
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?
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Multiple tests using speedtest.net app.
Down - Up
766 - 493
1455 - 503
1867 - 485
1872 - 470
1891 - 441
Wifi
Down - Up
9363 - 545
Am I getting what I should be getting?
Hello
I just happen to have upgraded to desireZ with cpw, and im on orange uk. Internet speed is fine (when u get H connection). In london though its pretty much everywhere
Whats best with orange is fact that they joined with t_mob and now the coverage is even better, although 3G will only start after Xmas :S...
Otherwise, phone is brill, but Im still getting used to android (used to be winmo for past 3 years...)
Hope this helps
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I also upgraded via CPW, it's worth pointing out that 90% of their phones are sim unlocked and unbranded
Am currently on TMob and with the recent merge Tmob/orange you have the option to jump network when reception is crap, at the moment it's only 2g tho
Stea1thmode said:
I also upgraded via CPW, it's worth pointing out that 90% of their phones are sim unlocked and unbranded
Am currently on TMob and with the recent merge Tmob/orange you have the option to jump network when reception is crap, at the moment it's only 2g tho
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What do you think of the data speeds on T-mobile network? Do you experiance it to be slow??
wolek76 said:
Hello
I just happen to have upgraded to desireZ with cpw, and im on orange uk. Internet speed is fine (when u get H connection). In london though its pretty much everywhere
Whats best with orange is fact that they joined with t_mob and now the coverage is even better, although 3G will only start after Xmas :S...
Otherwise, phone is brill, but Im still getting used to android (used to be winmo for past 3 years...)
Hope this helps
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Am gonna be moving from Win Mo as well... so not even sure how much data usage I might need per month on android!!!!
Do you find that 500MB is sufficient for your use?
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What do you think of the data speeds on T-mobile network? Do you experiance it to be slow??
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I've not done a speed test yet nor experienced any slowness, only when there's bad reception.
Audette said:
Am gonna be moving from Win Mo as well... so not even sure how much data usage I might need per month on android!!!!
Do you find that 500MB is sufficient for your use?
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To be honest I'm not sure, am on unlimited web n talk (internet) which works out to be 3gig for an extra fiver a month. I think with these types of phones you'd be better off with unlimited if you can get it
Is 500mb enough?
Well, I used to be on 500 for 18 months, and only once went over when my landline i-net was down due to BT. But now with the upgrade Ive gone for 1gig, and Im glad I did. This market thing is so much bigger than msofts winmo! Also, fone seems so much snappier with inet, utube,msn... I will deffo go over 500/month.
Just realized I havent installed skype yet...
Is 1gig gonna be enough...???
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wolek76 said:
Is 500mb enough?
Well, I used to be on 500 for 18 months, and only once went over when my landline i-net was down due to BT. But now with the upgrade Ive gone for 1gig, and Im glad I did. This market thing is so much bigger than msofts winmo! Also, fone seems so much snappier with inet, utube,msn... I will deffo go over 500/month.
Just realized I havent installed skype yet...
Is 1gig gonna be enough...???
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There's an app on market called NetCounter which shows your data usage, might be worth using that to help monitor data.
Im currently on Orange (contract now expired) and also looking to upgrade to a Desire Z with Orange (currently using HTC Touch HD).
I'm going to call Orange direct first and see what I can get. If they still don't do the Z then I might get it through Phones4U, on Orange, as they are offering the Z for free on a 24 month contract @ £25 pm which seems quite good.
Phones4U can also do upgrades so I have sent them a request to see if they can offer anything better than the £25 pm contract.
Hey guys, currently have a gingerbreak stock N1 that's been getting really low upload speeds. Averages about 200kb/s over 3g, even with really good signal. 2-3mb/s download speeds with 125 ping and I still get such low upload speeds.
I wouldn't be making such a fuss over this if it wasn't for the fact that I had 1+mb/s upload speeds just a month ago. The last time I used speedtest.net app I had over 1mb/s upload speed, but now it won't go over 200kb/s.
Anyone else experiencing this? I think I have a reasoning, but not sure if there's much merit behind it.
So when the Motorola Atrix came out, I bought it on contract, used it for a bit, and returned it since I was unsatisfied. When I returned the phone, the sales associate asked me what phone I was using now, after I returned the Atrix. I told him it was the N1 and that was it. Previous to signing the contract for the Atrix, AT&T had no idea what phone I had. But now that they do, I'm afraid they might be doing something on their end to affect my upload speeds like they do to all of their Android phones.
So that just leaves me to ask you guys, is anyone else experiencing this? Do you think AT&T is behind this garbage? Or do you think this is a hardware problem? Thanks guys.
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Hey guys, currently have a gingerbreak stock N1 that's been getting really low upload speeds. Averages about 200kb/s over 3g, even with really good signal. 2-3mb/s download speeds with 125 ping and I still get such low upload speeds.
I wouldn't be making such a fuss over this if it wasn't for the fact that I had 1+mb/s upload speeds just a month ago. The last time I used speedtest.net app I had over 1mb/s upload speed, but now it won't go over 200kb/s.
Anyone else experiencing this? I think I have a reasoning, but not sure if there's much merit behind it.
So when the Motorola Atrix came out, I bought it on contract, used it for a bit, and returned it since I was unsatisfied. When I returned the phone, the sales associate asked me what phone I was using now, after I returned the Atrix. I told him it was the N1 and that was it. Previous to signing the contract for the Atrix, AT&T had no idea what phone I had. But now that they do, I'm afraid they might be doing something on their end to affect my upload speeds like they do to all of their Android phones.
So that just leaves me to ask you guys, is anyone else experiencing this? Do you think AT&T is behind this garbage? Or do you think this is a hardware problem? Thanks guys.
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Didnt they just get caught limiting the upload on the atrix and others just recently? They said they were gonna put out "patches" to fix the problems. Sounds like they are just limiting it all-around
What ROM are you using? Cause sometimes the ROM will change your build.prop from hsxpa=3 back to 2. Check your build prop and make sure that line is correct, cause if not upload will be capped at 384kbps.
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What ROM are you using? Cause sometimes the ROM will change your build.prop from hsxpa=3 back to 2. Check your build prop and make sure that line is correct, cause if not upload will be capped at 384kbps.
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He's using "gingerbreak stock N1"
hello everyone, just got my sgs2, its totally awesome. im using my sgs2 and sgs1 side by side, first i did a speedtest.net test, my sgs1 got 6.5mbps, my sgs2 got 300kb. then i was like ew speedtest.net is being weird, lemme try the app, similar results, so i was like speedtest server is whack, lemme download a 1080p video from youtube.. and thats where i started to realize, side by side the two phones downloading the exact same 164mb video, the sgs1 finished 2 minutes ago, but the sgs2 is still at 41% ... the speed they downloaded the video was sgs1: 9300kbps sgs2: 1200kbps..
why is my sgs2 downloads so much slower than my sgs1?
Does having a EU phone in USA might be part of the problem?
both my sgs1 and sgs2 are from europe, and both have the same bands
this is interesting, and hopefully not characteristic
did you try upgrading to latest fw via kies?
did you try swapping the SIM cards between sgs1 and sgs2 and testing that way?
Ok...
If I was in this kind of situation, I would probably do the following (out of desperation) and see, if any help:
1) Swap sim cards between phones and see if it makes a difference,
2) Hard reset the phone,
3) Flash newer/same firmware using ODIN...
If this does not help, I (out of even bigger desperation) would start swearing and wait for others to come up with better ideas
You are on ATT and not TMO, right? You don't mention anything about signal strength or whether you're getting H on the S2. Are they both set to Auto? Try setting the S2 to WCDMA only. I hope the signal strength on the S2 isn't so much lower that it's kicking down to GSM, with the S1 running 3G.
(sorry, just saw your ATT logo. ignore first ?)
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You are on ATT and not TMO, right? You don't mention anything about signal strength or whether you're getting H on the S2. Are they both set to Auto? Try setting the S2 to WCDMA only. I hope the signal strength on the S2 isn't so much lower that it's kicking down to GSM, with the S1 running 3G.
(sorry, just saw your ATT logo. ignore first ?)
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yes both phones are AT&T
both phones are full bars of H, i live 8 houses down from the AT&T so my signal is as ideal as it could possibly be, normally my mobile ap is faster than my DSL, so signal isnt the problem..
ive set my S2 to WCDMA only, im going to do some speed tests now, will post updates in a few minutes
thank you all for helping me, i really hope this can be easily fixed <3 xda members
edit: well my speedtest.net results say 1.73 dl speed .21 upload, and 514 ping..
i passed my s1 down to my roommate, who has taken it off to work with her, so i cant switch sims..
im on the original firmware, do you think this matters?
soraxd said:
yes both phones are AT&T
both phones are full bars of H, i live 8 houses down from the AT&T so my signal is as ideal as it could possibly be, normally my mobile ap is faster than my DSL, so signal isnt the problem..
ive set my S2 to WCDMA only, im going to do some speed tests now, will post updates in a few minutes
thank you all for helping me, i really hope this can be easily fixed <3 xda members
edit: well my speedtest.net results say 1.73 dl speed .21 upload, and 514 ping..
i passed my s1 down to my roommate, who has taken it off to work with her, so i cant switch sims..
im on the original firmware, do you think this matters?
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Wait, you got 6.5mb on your SGS1? Is this the original SGS, or the new SGS 4G? I don't believe the SGS1 could actually go that fast - at least, mine never did...
I'm getting about 4-5mb on H+ (not H) on my SGS2 now, so there is no 1mb limit on the SGS2 or anything.
soraxd said:
yes both phones are AT&T
both phones are full bars of H, i live 8 houses down from the AT&T so my signal is as ideal as it could possibly be, normally my mobile ap is faster than my DSL, so signal isnt the problem..
ive set my S2 to WCDMA only, im going to do some speed tests now, will post updates in a few minutes
thank you all for helping me, i really hope this can be easily fixed <3 xda members
edit: well my speedtest.net results say 1.73 dl speed .21 upload, and 514 ping..
i passed my s1 down to my roommate, who has taken it off to work with her, so i cant switch sims..
im on the original firmware, do you think this matters?
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That ping time is absurd. Try changing speedtest servers. You may have been accessing two diff speedtest servers on the two phones. But the movie DL speeds are so different that's not likely the whole story.
(In Speedtest you can choose "Settings" then "Change Server" to select one near you. Can make a big difference.)
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That ping time is absurd. Try changing speedtest servers. You may have been accessing two diff speedtest servers on the two phones. But the movie DL speeds are so different that's not likely the whole story.
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that is a good point! did you enable GPS? Maybe the phone and speedtest app still think you are in the UK and speedtest is pulling data from there
RyanZA said:
Wait, you got 6.5mb on your SGS1? Is this the original SGS, or the new SGS 4G? I don't believe the SGS1 could actually go that fast - at least, mine never did...
I'm getting about 4-5mb on H+ (not H) on my SGS2 now, so there is no 1mb limit on the SGS2 or anything.
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yes with the sg1 hehe, the i9000 one, i live in a really prime location, i mean i could take a picture from my porch and you would see a big AT&T sign, with 5 dozen AT&T vans parked out in front. as far as 3g in the US, my speeds will beat anyones, just not on my s2 =[
and i love this firmware, it has so many languages built into the keyboard, vietnamese, AND japanese, two languages ive previously had to download additional keyboards for. will these still exist in the newer firmware?
RyanZA said:
Wait, you got 6.5mb on your SGS1? Is this the original SGS, or the new SGS 4G? I don't believe the SGS1 could actually go that fast - at least, mine never did...
I'm getting about 4-5mb on H+ (not H) on my SGS2 now, so there is no 1mb limit on the SGS2 or anything.
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I regularly got 4 mbps on Vodafone in the UK with my SGS 1, the phone was supposedly capable of 14.4 Mbps, but that was network dependant and UK networks did not support that speed.
soraxd said:
hello everyone, just got my sgs2, its totally awesome. im using my sgs2 and sgs1 side by side, first i did a speedtest.net test, my sgs1 got 6.5mbps, my sgs2 got 300kb. then i was like ew speedtest.net is being weird, lemme try the app, similar results, so i was like speedtest server is whack, lemme download a 1080p video from youtube.. and thats where i started to realize, side by side the two phones downloading the exact same 164mb video, the sgs1 finished 2 minutes ago, but the sgs2 is still at 41% ... the speed they downloaded the video was sgs1: 9300kbps sgs2: 1200kbps..
why is my sgs2 downloads so much slower than my sgs1?
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If swapping the sim cards does not help, try calling ATT see if they can help you trouble shoot it, maybe it needs some provisioning tweaks to get just right.
Congrats by the way, I am holding onto my iPhone 3GS waiting on this phone. I might pick up the infuse see if I like it.
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Wait, you got 6.5mb on your SGS1? Is this the original SGS, or the new SGS 4G? I don't believe the SGS1 could actually go that fast - at least, mine never did...
I'm getting about 4-5mb on H+ (not H) on my SGS2 now, so there is no 1mb limit on the SGS2 or anything.
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my vibrant just about hits that.
as far as i know, the US versions of the SGS max out at 7.2mbps.
definitely check the server. My SGS2 was running the speed test from a kansas server and i'm in nyc.
In terms of speed, it's very similar to my sgs1 except i've hit 4mbps+ a few times with sgs1 and i haven't with sgs2
guys, I think switching sims may have done the trick!
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I've actually been noticing faster downloads on my SGSII compared to my first (both unlocked, same network and SIM).
This includes via WiFi too.
I got really happy today when I discovered XDA developers through Google. There seems to be a wealth of information on this forum.
I recently purchased the Samsung Galaxy S2 in India and I have to say, the quality exceeded my expectations, seriously.
I also signed up for Airtel's 3G service, and the service was working fine for the first 2-3 days with speeds exceeding ~3mbps (>3000kbps).
However, here is where my problem started:
Just a couple of days back I was simultaneously downloading a bunch of free Apps from the Marketplace and somewhere in the middle my 3G speeds dropped. I seriously don't know what happened. I have the flexible package from Airtel which gives 1.25 gigabytes, and according to my phone, I've used only 550 megabytes at that time.
Now, my speeds are locked at 40kbps (according to Speedtest and web browsing experience) and I don't if it is my phone having the issue or if it is my SIM or Airtel Prepaid account (I am 99.9% percent I have not exceeded the balance or else talktime would have already been deducted by now), or a technical glitch on Airtel's server-end.
I have tried disabling / enabling fast dormancy, disabling / enabling HSPDA, configuring WCDMA Only, and manually configuring the Airtel settings. Yet, none of that worked.
I am feeling very frustrated and would appreciate any help in addressing this matter. Thanks in advance.
There are a couple of Indian specific threads that you'd be better off getting help in. This is the biggest one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995752
I would like to read feedback from folks around the world as well.
I've already gone through the mentioned Indian thread and I have to say, it requires a moderator.
Help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
same problem on t-mobile
i bought the sgs2 2 months ago , i live in the us now and i bought it unloked from amazon. i put my simcard from tmobile in it , previously was using a nexus one. i have unlimited data plan but only get edge speeds on it which is very frustrating. on the nexus i was getting 3g speeds. one time while i was driving (i live in florida) i managed to get a 3g signal but the speeds were still in the edge range. most of the time i`m using wifi, but since i`m paying for the data plan, id like for my phone to be able to use it.
if anybody would be able to enlighten me about how to go about my problem i would appreciated it.
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i bought the sgs2 2 months ago , i live in the us now and i bought it unloked from amazon. i put my simcard from tmobile in it , previously was using a nexus one. i have unlimited data plan but only get edge speeds on it which is very frustrating. on the nexus i was getting 3g speeds. one time while i was driving (i live in florida) i managed to get a 3g signal but the speeds were still in the edge range. most of the time i`m using wifi, but since i`m paying for the data plan, id like for my phone to be able to use it.
if anybody would be able to enlighten me about how to go about my problem i would appreciated it.
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You won't get 3g speeds on tmobile because sgs2 doesn't have the necessary tmobile 3g bands. If you want 3g and hspa+ speeds thru sgs2, switch to att.
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dirtydiamond said:
i bought the sgs2 2 months ago , i live in the us now and i bought it unloked from amazon. i put my simcard from tmobile in it , previously was using a nexus one. i have unlimited data plan but only get edge speeds on it which is very frustrating. on the nexus i was getting 3g speeds. one time while i was driving (i live in florida) i managed to get a 3g signal but the speeds were still in the edge range. most of the time i`m using wifi, but since i`m paying for the data plan, id like for my phone to be able to use it.
if anybody would be able to enlighten me about how to go about my problem i would appreciated it.
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Unfortunately for us (My SGS2 will arrive later today) T-mobile uses different 3G/4G bands than most other carriers worldwide.... so we are stuck with EDGE (2G)
On a side note how are the speeds when browsing on EDGE? Is it painfully slow? If so try downloading Opera mini it should help quite a bit since it renders everything server side
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thanks for the prompt answers , after a little research i`ve found out exactelly the same thing, that i have to switch to at&t to get better speeds and i probably will.
yes , surfing on 2g is horribly slow and my 70$ unlimited plan is useless
just did a speedtest 133kbps/down 94k up , ridiculous :'(
Any suggestions or advices for the 3G problems
HI, I am also facing the same problem of 3G of low speeds any updates regarding this?
Any chance your provider might be throttling your speeds based on usage behaviour?
Took mine to service center, having the same simptoms as described by you, the resolution was: faulty motherboard -> replace. Not a firmware issue...a hardware one.
Hey guys,
Firstly, sorry if this is in the wrong place, I'm just not entirely sure where to put it.
I'm at present looking for a new sim-only contract for my new phone (Nokia Lumia 920) and one thing that caught my eye was the T-Mobile Full Monty deal, which although doesn't allow tethering for customers after July(?) this year many seem to be able to still do so and get away with it.
So for anyone who has signed up to this offer in the last few months, are you still able to tether? and are the speeds while tethering ever throttled?
Thanks
Chris
Hi i dont personally do contracts because i get mote than enough for my miney in payg.
But 3 uk may be a better choicw because they dont have any limits or restrictions.
Speeds never get slowed down no matter how much you use and does include tethering.
Im on T-Mobile payg UK myself and more than happy with them.
Hope this helps in some way.
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Nick Fury said:
Hi i dont personally do contracts because i get mote than enough for my miney in payg.
But 3 uk may be a better choicw because they dont have any limits or restrictions.
Speeds never get slowed down no matter how much you use and does include tethering.
Im on T-Mobile payg UK myself and more than happy with them.
Hope this helps in some way.
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Hey, thanks, well, I've got 2 problems with that, first of which is for a few months my phone will be locked until EE's exclusivity period with Nokia is over (Jan/Feb)
Secondly, my house generally has poor reception with the exception of my bedroom (despite being near central Edinburgh -.-) and in my hometown not too far out I don't even get reception in my parents house, which is pretty poor, and I've heard the horror stories before from my mates with their customer service.
I know from being on Orange for the past three years their reception is good, but I've never fully taken advantage of tethering before as my data limits have always been relatively low, however I like the sound of having a data connection for my laptop and so on with me at all times (as a true student I'm constantly out in coffee shops trying to convince myself I'm doing the work)
Do you know if it is still technically possible to tether with the full monty sim-only deal?