I am in need of warranty services so I installed stock vha rom and did a factory reset, etc.
Problem is the phone is still s-on and rooted.
I can remove root in visionary... How do i s-on? I would not like any traces of hacking left over. thanks.
You have to flash a stock RUU
Aamir.Badat said:
You have to flash a stock RUU
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uhm can you explain?
I need that too
thanks in advance
If we hard reset our phone without keeping the backup and untick the option of installing the backup from the options, then i think we loose the root and the S-OFF.
I am interested also too, to remove the s-off
Antonios, no, S-OFF would remain. Also using stock RUU is not enough in most cases, as it would fail at hboot version checking while flashing OR Radio S-OFF would remain in the phone nevertheless. One tried, tested and simple way to S-ON from pretty much any phone state is to:
- Do Radio S-OFF (yes, S-OFF) with my tool if not already (link in sig)
- Follow the instructions in my Radio tool thread to go S-ON
It will remove clockworkmod, eng hboot, custom rom, everything. Your device will be completely stock after the process.
Should be sticky in Desire HD Android Development section. no?
Ok I got my G2 when it first came out. Used the old rage method to get S-OFF and perma root. Now i'm reading people say that they have "real" S-OFF and real permaroot. Do I have to do the "gfree" method now or is my phone good as it is?
I understand that with gfree you can unlock your SIM and you can switch between S-OFF and S-ON.. I'd like to have those functions. How should I go about it? Do I do a factory reset to go back to stock and unroot and then use gfree method or is there a simpler way to do it?
Here's what I have right now:
Stock rom, I NEVER installed any OTA's.
I have Baconbits.
My baseband is: 12.22.60.09bU_26.02.01.15_M2
Kernel: 2.6.32.21-cyanogenmod [email protected]#1
Build #: 1.19.531.1 CL255798 release-keys
Thanks for all the help.
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
dhkr234 said:
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
sent from my V I S I O N.
Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
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PatrickHuey said:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
sent from my V I S I O N.
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See the Wiki for details. Assuming you are running a kernel where gfree works (again, see the Wiki on this), you just need a root shell on your phone, copy gfree to your phone (e.g. via adb push), then run gfree with the appropriate options, e.g. "./gfree -f".
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elracing21 said:
Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
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Using gfree does not get rid of the engineering hboot (or modify your existing hboot in anyway), so it's safe to do. And even if this was not the case, you can still flash the CWM3 recovery without the engineering hboot, only you'll have to use a different method than fastboot.
dhkr234 said:
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
thank you
konoplya said:
thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
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Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
steviewevie said:
Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
konoplya said:
ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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Not just gfree on its own, but you will need to go through the steps of getting temp root then perm root, which does use gfree as part of it. It's all in the Wiki.
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ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
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gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
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Yeah but gfree is often used as part of the rooting process, so I can see why people associate gfree with rooting.
gfree might be run more than once on a phone as part of the process to lock in root, i.e. to defeat the NAND write protection. Even though it's only needed once to unlock the radio etc, you might run it other times if you need to root a stock ROM and updates to that ROM.
gfree can be used to unlock radio security, but it has other options too. Sorry but I think your reply might confuse more people than it helps.
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Help me please! I tried to find my answer, but i'm not sure.
Can be possible use the update.zip without any modification? Or i need change the hboot?
Thank you!
Janaboy
I'm perm rooted! but I lost the ota update cause I was simi-brick how can I get the OTA update? do I have to to a factory reset?
You should get the OTA right away after restarting the phone, I know I did after going back to stock on just Saturday of this week. The first time I connected to the network it said an update was available and it was the OTA.
that hasnt happen and it need to hurry up!! lol
So do a Factory reset?
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
aok680 said:
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Unlock_the_Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF
I'm having trouble with getting a stable Data connection after doing the permanent root with gfree.
Now, I want to keep my sim unlock/S=Off/root, but I want to convert back to the 0.86.0000 Hboot.
Is this possible?
How can I do it?
Do custom roms require the engineering SPL?
Essenar said:
I'm having trouble with getting a stable Data connection after doing the permanent root with gfree.
Now, I want to keep my sim unlock/S=Off/root, but I want to convert back to the 0.86.0000 Hboot.
Is this possible?
How can I do it?
Do custom roms require the engineering SPL?
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If you just do the VISIONary.apk and the root.sh script you can keep root with the Stock Engineering. Once you flash the engineering screen i do not know how to revert back. But i'm sure someone does.
Dear,
Am using Wildfire...I have rooted it and using DK Custom Froyo V4.4
My boot loader shows
BAZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT- 0.80.0007
MI CROP- 0622
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My Noob Ques
1. Is the phone fully rooted..??
2. What I not able to do with S-ON and What with S-Off
3. Any screenshot how to S-off the Wildfire??
please reply...
no need to worry
you want S-off (security-off) only if you have hboot 1.0.xx so you can root.
-ur phone is rooted (with custom recovery installed).
-u can access the ROOT ONLY APPS on ur phone.
-u can enjoy custom roms on ur phone
-dont know whether u can use a custom splash image for boot screen.
coming to the s-off point, it is disabling the nand security. U will get access to additional advanced options on doing this,
u can see the advantages of s-off here on post #3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041530
and regarding how to s-off the wildfire, there are 2 options
-xtc clip (which is expensive, ur phone is already rooted and and no one will recommend u to go with this just for making s-off)
-alpharev2 (a freeware software solution for u which is not yet released, wait for its relese)
check for news on alpharev2 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794421 (also ur screenshot there, but its not how to s-off)
http://alpharev.nl/
and regarding post #2
no need to worry
you want S-off (security-off) only if you have hboot 1.0.xx so you can root.
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if u think of s-off for just rooting a present wildfire, that will be correct.
s-off is not only for rooting a wildfire, but also has several advantages like i gave u in the above link.
s-off by alpharev has additional options like "fastboot extended commands will be enabled".
and for hboot 1.01, even if they are rooted (maybe in future) with s-on, they are not compatible with alpharev2.
and for hboot 1.01 users who made s-off by xtc clip, can use alpharev2 in conjunction to make use of the advantages of alpharev2.
thats all dude, someone correct me if im wrong.
Hi Gents,
Before I get flamed, have been on XDA for with a HD2 for a while so bear with me - I have purchased a Mytouch and it has come with S-off but no root have tried pushing CWR via adb but comes back not reading the img - also came with 2.3.4 update S-off is ther a way I can flash a rom thats rooted to get Su permission ??
I am on H-boot .89
Any help would be great.
Thx
Stickies and INDEX are a great help.
Some basic reading is expected.
Thank Jack_R1 used to say the same myself I think re downgrade and start from scratch ... eeek and this one has a bad chipset -
No need to re-downgrade. If you got S-OFF - you're good.
Now flash engineering bootloader (0.85) by PD15IMG.ZIP way (search the guides for it) and use fastboot for flashing recovery.
This should guide you enough.
Thanks mate appreciate the help
Edit: have done your suggested but i am getting a Cid error ??
Means you probably don't have MT4G, but HTC Panache.
Look up a thread named "Videotron/Mobilicity Panache thread". There are instructions for making goldcard.
Actually, what it could also mean is that your phone was S-OFF-ed by XTC Clip and not by gfree, which means you're still not SuperCID. You might want to downgrade to Froyo and run gfree for SuperCID only.