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Sprint ROM laggier than Eris?

Has anyone noticed that the 2.1 roms based on the Sprint leak are slower and laggier than the ones based on the Eris leak? I notice this especially in the keyboard, even with a fresh wipe.
Am I doing something wrong?

my new rom coming out is around 82mb optimized WITH sense and all that good stuff.

Some of the sprint roms that have been made have the new xda keyboard with voice function. I noticed that lags way more thann the stock one without voice.

radxcoresteven said:
Some of the sprint roms that have been made have the new xda keyboard with voice function. I noticed that lags way more thann the stock one without voice.
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where can i get the one with no voice feature???

rogerbean101 said:
where can i get the one with no voice feature???
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push to /system/app

regaw_leinad said:
push to /system/app
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thanx but lol idk how to do that kinda noob...any flashable one?

rogerbean101 said:
thanx but lol idk how to do that kinda noob...any flashable one?
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just made it.
Here you go.

regaw_leinad said:
just made it.
Here you go.
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thanx!! lol

The IME helped the keyboard lag, but not the overall lag.
The Sprint-based ROMs are slower than the Eris-based 2.1 ROMs and perhaps even slower than the optimized 1.5 ROMs.
Am I the only person noticing this? I can't be, can I?

One can only hope that this is the reason Sprint is holding out on our official update

jonnythan said:
The IME helped the keyboard lag, but not the overall lag.
The Sprint-based ROMs are slower than the Eris-based 2.1 ROMs and perhaps even slower than the optimized 1.5 ROMs.
Am I the only person noticing this? I can't be, can I?
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I believe they're slower (at least slower than the 1.5's) because they haven't had as much time to optimize them, or make custom kernels for the 2.1 ROM's. I'm not so sure that the sprint ones are any slower than the eris ones though
Just my theory.

jonnythan said:
The IME helped the keyboard lag, but not the overall lag.
The Sprint-based ROMs are slower than the Eris-based 2.1 ROMs and perhaps even slower than the optimized 1.5 ROMs.
Am I the only person noticing this? I can't be, can I?
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I notice it too

regaw_leinad said:
my new rom coming out is around 82mb optimized WITH sense and all that good stuff.
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i started noticing lately thats its not all about how big the rom's zip file is in terms of it's output speed. other factors play in it.
jonnythan said:
The IME helped the keyboard lag, but not the overall lag.
The Sprint-based ROMs are slower than the Eris-based 2.1 ROMs and perhaps even slower than the optimized 1.5 ROMs.
Am I the only person noticing this? I can't be, can I?
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Yea, it's because it isn't odex'd like the eris leak

jonnythan said:
The IME helped the keyboard lag, but not the overall lag.
The Sprint-based ROMs are slower than the Eris-based 2.1 ROMs and perhaps even slower than the optimized 1.5 ROMs.
Am I the only person noticing this? I can't be, can I?
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ive noticed a lag.for example the handcent pop up.when typing..super slow.keyboard is slow overall.ill sometimes be listeningto music,ill push play or skip a song n it wont respond.ill sometimes try to make a calln it wont call.i could go to my home screen,scroll around n a couple secs later itll call..i have enough memory..dont know what the deal is.

tatonka_hero said:
I believe they're slower (at least slower than the 1.5's) because they haven't had as much time to optimize them, or make custom kernels for the 2.1 ROM's. I'm not so sure that the sprint ones are any slower than the eris ones though
Just my theory.
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My wife is running Damage1.0 (eris) & I'm running Fresh's latest (Sprint leak). The eris is noticably faster. Opening apps is fasters, keyboard is faster....everything I've tested is faster. If I knew of a permanent fix for the gmail login issue, I'd probably be running Damage1 instead of the Sprint leaks. I didn't mind using Youmail for VVM.....

People seem to be skipping over my post in which i clearly outlined the reason why it's not as fast

darchstar said:
Yea, it's because it isn't odex'd like the eris leak
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What does that mean, exactly, and why hasn't it been done? Why was it done to the Eris leak?

jonnythan said:
What does that mean, exactly, and why hasn't it been done? Why was it done to the Eris leak?
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It's because it's a testing release. It's easier for people to pick away at the code, etc if its not odex'd. The testers don't need to take time to deodex the whole rom.

darchstar said:
It's because it's a testing release. It's easier for people to pick away at the code, etc if its not odex'd. The testers don't need to take time to deodex the whole rom.
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i see what your talking about now... i noticed it a long time ago but i didnt know what it meant, and due to the entire damgeless/flipz/RUU fiasco we will not get another leak...

(Q) what is the best rom to go with?

I'm on the quantum rom and i like it. but it seems like my battery is suckish. what is the best rom do you guys have in mind.

i gotta say the only thing holding me backfrom upgrading to DK28 is the lack of 4g tethering, im using syndicate rom 1.0.2 with setcpu installed and i can 4g tether (usb) and i get all day battery life (unless of course im watchin a movie or downloading on 4g). syndicate is DI18 based.

Currently, all the dk28 roms are varients on the same flavor (a theme or boot animation here, a custom script there).
[Edit] - damn cough made me hit submit :-|
You really won't see great differences in performance until the kernels are modified for oc/uv, and that won't really commence till the official release.
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SwimDrewid said:
Currently, all the dk28 roms are varients on the same flavor (a theme or boot animation here, a custom script there).
[Edit] - damn cough made me hit submit :-|
You really won't see great differences in performance until the kernels are modified for oc/uv, and that won't really commence till the official release.
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+1
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Viper is the best. I been trying all of them.
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Im almost set to release frankenstein, might wait to see what official froyo brings...And want to find a good hosting site.
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Tested out both releases of Quantum and latest two Bonsai for 2.2/DK28, and was on Andromeda Galaxy for 2.1/DI18.
I too felt my battery was suckish on Quantum. Liked Andromeda for battery life the most, Quantum has been most stable. However, I have now settled on Nebula Rom 1.0.5 as (IMO) it has the best features of all three sweet roms mentioned.

so when will we be seeing gingerbread

cbwhat said:
so when will we be seeing gingerbread
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Knowing Samsung, not for a while. Since the nexus s is pretty much the same as a Galaxy S, however, there may be luck of an update or porting of Gingerbread to our Epics around...March, is my guess.
For the best rom...it's very difficult to say. They're all pretty simple with the DK28 variants. I prefer the Nebula Rom, but there are a lot of other styles.
If you liked the old 2.1 style, try out the SyndicateRom.
Hope this helps!

antpila33 said:
i gotta say the only thing holding me backfrom upgrading to DK28 is the lack of 4g tethering...
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I'm using Vipers DK28 and can USB tether with 4G just fine using PDANET. DL it from the market and try it out.

antpila33 said:
i gotta say the only thing holding me backfrom upgrading to DK28 is the lack of 4g tethering, im using syndicate rom 1.0.2 with setcpu installed and i can 4g tether (usb) and i get all day battery life (unless of course im watchin a movie or downloading on 4g). syndicate is DI18 based.
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Dont even upgrade to any froyo roms.I had Syndicate on my phone for almost two months and it was the fastest rom then I decided to swith to froyo DK28 and tried all the froyo roms and I gotta say it wasnt worth it,Syndicate rom murders any froyo rom available right now.
But if you still wanna jump to 2.2 then Mammon's Bonsai 1.0.4 is the fastest but is nowhere near Syndicate,you will notice lag especially when browsing internet,and rom will keep geting slower and slower after a week or two.
Bottom line:Use Syndicate until better froyo updates come out.

[Q] New Epic, what to do?

Ok, So I just switched from the Evo over to my Samsung Epic and Not sure if i made the right move. Not a fan of Eclair(android 2.1) and I have not heard good news about the leaked 2.2 for the epic. I'm wondering whats an ideal setup on the epics. Do I upgrade to the leaked 2.2 and get a nice rom?(viperrom looks pretty decent) or do i stick with 2.1 and get a nice rom on that end?those who have a favorite tell me why and let me know some of the pros n cons.
P.S Hi new to forum

I would pick a nice 2.1 rom and wait for official Froyo to launch. There are some bugs with DK28 that are annoying as hell when they occur. None of the things that DK28 fixes are absolutely necessary, such as the much improved GPS. GPS still functions on 2.1, just not nearly as well as on Froyo.

You're kidding, right? GPS sucks on Froyo.
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muyoso said:
I would pick a nice 2.1 rom and wait for official Froyo to launch. There are some bugs with DK28 that are annoying as hell when they occur. None of the things that DK28 fixes are absolutely necessary, such as the much improved GPS. GPS still functions on 2.1, just not nearly as well as on Froyo.
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Just sucessfully rooted my phone and now I'm thinking on which ROM to flash to. Probably going to take your advice and stick with 2.1 for now also. Have you tried SyndicateROM? I didn't see very many options for Roms in 2.1 and found this to be only plausible option was wondering if you have tried it and what did you think?(if you have)

anon20 said:
You're kidding, right? GPS sucks on Froyo.
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Works pretty damn well for me.

coke32 said:
Just sucessfully rooted my phone and now I'm thinking on which ROM to flash to. Probably going to take your advice and stick with 2.1 for now also. Have you tried SyndicateROM? I didn't see very many options for Roms in 2.1 and found this to be only plausible option was wondering if you have tried it and what did you think?(if you have)
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I ran syndicaterom for a while. It was very stable and nice. You can also pick a kernel to use in conjunction with whatever rom you use. Stock kernel is very stable obviously, but if you have concerns about battery life or something like that, or feel a need to overclock, there are kernels available that offer that. SyndiateRom comes with the Xtreme kernel if you flash the "Full" release, if I am remembering correctly. It is a very good all around kernel, although Phoenix 1.43 was always the best with regards to battery life for me.

coke32 said:
Ok, So I just switched from the Evo over to my Samsung Epic and Not sure if i made the right move. Not a fan of Eclair(android 2.1) and I have not heard good news about the leaked 2.2 for the epic. I'm wondering whats an ideal setup on the epics. Do I upgrade to the leaked 2.2 and get a nice rom?(viperrom looks pretty decent) or do i stick with 2.1 and get a nice rom on that end?those who have a favorite tell me why and let me know some of the pros n cons.
P.S Hi new to forum
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Odin to dk28, one click root, then install bonsai rom and optionally install a theme.
With this setup my GPS works better than it has for any other phone (lock in 5-10 seconds). Flash works, and the system flies. Not many cons that I'm aware of.

Cough cough.. bakedsnackshack.com
cd's or tapes?

Yeah I was running baked snack for a while with his kernal. Very very smooth and great battery. In the end I flashed froyo and I don't have any issues at all I would realy recommend trying it if you aren't a fan of 2.1.
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anon20 said:
You're kidding, right? GPS sucks on Froyo.
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Mine is spot on....running EXT4 and custom ROM

If you want working GPS and Flash support in the browser go with a leaked DK28 ROM (ViperROM w/ EXT4 is my personal favorite). GPS is better than ever on Froyo - it actually works now! Extremely well at that... There is a process for going to DK28 and making the GPS happy, as long as you follow that process you'll be in great shape. I really can't think of a reason to be on DI18, unless you need to go into a Sprint store for some reason.

schnowdapowda said:
Cough cough.. bakedsnackshack.com
cd's or tapes?
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Still overwhelmed, but I like your site's instructions, very thorough, thumbs up for that tip, I still am on stock rooted, but one of these days....at least this site is thorough...

I agree 2.2 is the way to go. The most of the problems on froyo can be pinpointed to a problem installing it. I've flashed froyo plenty of times and if you can get the gps steps down everything should be just fine. if your staying on eclair the overclocked syndicate rom is a beast.
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I vote 2.2, I have it and haven't looked back. Its luck of the draw. Some get more bugs then others. I lucked out I guess.

Another vote for 2.2 here. My ROM recommendation is Quantum, it's well-supported and its developer is on top of his game. Some other ROMs include a lot of... gimmicks. Yeah, we'll go with gimmicks. (It slices, it dices, it automagically makes your internets faster!)
In any case, there's no real reason for Android 2.1. The leaked FroYo is stable at this point. If you're getting force closes then it probably means something went wrong during flash. If you can follow instructions then it's not difficult.

Any Updates On A Skype Fix?

Because it's not working for me! any updates on this? or is there just nothing happening?

Well considering there's no official 2.2.. I'm sure its a low priority. Sorry
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Install dk28 and enjoy
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Most of the custom dk28 roms should run skype. There was a mod of skype floating around here a while ago that had 3g and wifi capabilites, which is supposed to be exclusive to vz, but skype still didn't have vid for the phone so I wasn't interested. Good luck! Its back down the ladder of posts many many rungs, to be exactly how many no one really knows....
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Top Nurse said:
Install dk28 and enjoy
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what is that dk28? i haven't rooted my phone yet, is this something that i can do without rooting it?

Check out the wiki, sounds like you've got a lot to learn, my friend.
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RE: SWYPE
So, I was previously running MidNight and I coulnd't figure out how to get Swype to work. I'm now running Bonzia4All and it works great ... I loved Midnight - and it was probably just me ...
BTW - I didn't know that Swype was broken in stock rom. Is it?
Settings -> local and text -> make sure it has Swype in there ... toggle it back and forth .. I dunno.
Like I said, I just thought it was broken after I rooted and Custom Rom the phone.
-G

meh i got the leaked 2.2 and it works.

@Randy_T
Thanks for the tip about Tasker! It's the bomb for geeks like me.
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Top Nurse said:
@Randy_T
Thanks for the tip about Tasker! It's the bomb for geeks like me.
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who the hell is randy_t

Skype is going to h.264 for video to work on apple and other platforms. It will come in time

jrjpoohscell said:
Because it's not working for me! any updates on this? or is there just nothing happening?
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I'm sure you probably already heard this, but Skype is still in the development stages of there video application for the android.

SamsungJohn said:
I'm sure you probably already heard this, but Skype is still in the development stages of there video application for the android.
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Possibly, but where did I get the app from?
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Skype is appears to not have log in issues on EB13 now. Haven't tried a test call just yet.

latinmaxima said:
Skype is appears to not have log in issues on EB13 now. Haven't tried a test call just yet.
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My wife used it to phone Korea last night and this morning. No problems at all. (She was on wifi; we haven't tested it on 4g/3g yet.)
Chatting, of course, works fine on any network.

Syndicate vs Bonsai

There's been a lot of complaining over people arguing the differences of this topic under the development section, which is understandable. Being that this is the "general" section, let the smack-down begin!
I haven't tried the new syndicate 1.0.1 yet, but I am on Bonsai 3.0.1 with GO launcher EX, and I must say it is mighty smooth and fast. I like the convenience factor of not having to wipe and reinstall all the apps too.

They are both Awesome and amazing in every way possible.

Does Pandora Radio work on either of them?

Jayavarman said:
Does Pandora Radio work on either of them?
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Works great on ACS
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Bonsai, cause i dont have to do anything but flash, no extra apps needed to back up no wiping no nothing, no issues either with the latest 3.0.1 and has the smart ass governer!!
Plus i see a lot issues people are posting with email stuff on syndicate.

davidrules7778 said:
Bonsai, cause i dont have to do anything but flash, no extra apps needed to back up no wiping no nothing, no issues either with the latest 3.0.1 and has the smart ass governer!!
Plus i see a lot issues people are posting with email stuff on syndicate.
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EDIT: Nevermind, found it.

davidrules7778 said:
Bonsai, cause i dont have to do anything but flash, no extra apps needed to back up no wiping no nothing, no issues either with the latest 3.0.1 and has the smart ass governer!!
Plus i see a lot issues people are posting with email stuff on syndicate.
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This.
Also, just flashed from the Deodexed EB13 w/ Genocide. I thought that was nice and smooth - no issues with it. Well... holy ****. Hats of to you guys - both the Bonzai team and the ACS team.

davidrules7778 said:
Bonsai, cause i dont have to do anything but flash, no extra apps needed to back up no wiping no nothing, no issues either with the latest 3.0.1 and has the smart ass governer!!
Plus i see a lot issues people are posting with email stuff on syndicate.
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Just for safe measure, I re flashed stock eb13, re-rooted, and flashed syndicate. The market is crashing in landscape. Going back to Bonsai.

I vote for bonsai mainly because it is very automatic as mentioned above. It backs upfor you and reinstalls your apps. Nothing to do after flashing except enjoy the phone. I have used many roms and I can say bonsai is far and away the best I've used. In all fairness I haven't used syndicate in a while. IMHO you can't go wrong with bonsai
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Just made it 50-50
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Lol they are both great

I tried Bonsai today and missed syndicate too much. I had to go back as soon as K0nane uploaded.

Bonsai is the only one I tried so far and honestly it meets my requirements...

davidrules7778 said:
Bonsai, cause i dont have to do anything but flash, no extra apps needed to back up no wiping no nothing, no issues either with the latest 3.0.1 and has the smart ass governer!!
Plus i see a lot issues people are posting with email stuff on syndicate.
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nicholishen said:
Just for safe measure, I re flashed stock eb13, re-rooted, and flashed syndicate. The market is crashing in landscape. Going back to Bonsai.
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Both bugs fixed in the newest upload.

cberrios said:
Bonsai is the only one I tried so far and honestly it meets my requirements...
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I like to experiment with my phone. I think it's been flashed over 100 times by now. Poor thing. Atleast you can sleep at night knowing it isn't neglected.

Bonsai is FAST!
Installing it is easy.
It turns On and Off fast.
They removed all stuff noone uses.
My battery has increased ALOT.
All my games play smooth.

ae69ae said:
Bonsai is FAST!
Installing it is easy.
It turns On and Off fast.
They removed all stuff noone uses.
My battery has increased ALOT.
All my games play smooth.
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+1 on the installing easy.
I don't know if Bonsai has this, but I really like the 1x icon for 2G, it gives me a good grasp on my network coverage.

Overstew said:
I don't know if Bonsai has this, but I really like the 1x icon for 2G, it gives me a good grasp on my network coverage.
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Nope, no 1x icon on Bonsai.

I haven't tried bonsai, but I'm on syndicate now (1.0.1) and it fc's yelp, movies, flixter, camera, wired tethr, and a bunch other apps, as of this post. Hopefully it gets sorted out. I may switch...

futureprospect said:
I haven't tried bonsai, but I'm on syndicate now (1.0.1) and it fc's yelp, movies, flixter, camera, wired tethr, and a bunch other apps, as of this post. Hopefully it gets sorted out. I may switch...
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Did you flash from full EB13 first? A lot of people miss that and it causes issues like this. Also never restore system data from a di18 or dk28 even, using titanium backup (or other backups) on eb13. I learned the hard way, that causes big problems.
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To many force close problems on acs. I've loved bonsai since dk28. Very easy install too. Benchmarks are just about the same. I ran alot.of benchmarks on acs 1.0.1 and bonsai 3.0.1 and bonsai won by an average of like 10 points on smartbench. Pretty much tied on the other benchmarks
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