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Eugene OR TeamWhiskey 2.2

So it looks like they both have working 2.2 builds out in the wild now. My question is which one is better, or which one are YOU going to use? Let's try and keep the comparison here, that way we don't clog up both of these wonderful dev's threads.

I have never used either since I'm still stock. What was the general consensus before their new 2.2 builds?

I wouldn't know. They both have a huge following though. What I have noticed is that each one has very loyal followers. It almost seems as if its "either one or the other". But since it is now 2.2, it is a completely different ball game.

jzero88 said:
I wouldn't know. They both have a huge following though. What I have noticed is that each one has very loyal followers. It almost seems as if its "either one or the other". But since it is now 2.2, it is a completely different ball game.
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I thinks it's really your preference no two vibrants are the same so whatever works best for your phone and for you is what matters try them both try them all you'll figure out what's best for you I'm running bionix final with jacs oc/uv kernel but I've tried the froyo roms they are cool but for me this works best have fun and for the love of god stay drunk
Times never wasted when your getting waisted

I thinks it's really your preference no two vibrants are the same so whatever works best for your phone and for you is what matters try them both try them all you'll figure out what's best for you I'm running bionix final with jacs oc/uv kernel but I've tried the froyo roms they are cool but for me this works best have fun and for the love of god stay drunk
Times never wasted when your getting waisted
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lol +1
I love you man. nohomo

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My question is which one is better?
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Fair question, but somewhat irrelevant in my opinion. My experience with stock vs cooked ROMs (MT3G CM6) is that the only real advantage is better speed. Sure, a few different user-experience changes, but that's all. An the stock ROMs are far more stable.
My stock Vibrant is already plenty fast. I'm rooted and can use root-only apps. My Dolphin browser already displays Flash. JIT will make it technically faster, but will I actually notice..? What would Eugene or TeamWhiskey add to that...?

Have not tried either but am running fusion by team wiskey with there kernel. Phone runs to good to worry about 2.2.
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argie said:
Fair question, but somewhat irrelevant in my opinion. My experience with stock vs cooked ROMs (MT3G CM6) is that the only real advantage is better speed. Sure, a few different user-experience changes, but that's all. An the stock ROMs are far more stable.
My stock Vibrant is already plenty fast. I'm rooted and can use root-only apps. My Dolphin browser already displays Flash. JIT will make it technically faster, but will I actually notice..? What would Eugene or TeamWhiskey add to that...?
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What flash are you running on stock?
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jonwilly said:
Have not tried either but am running fusion by team wiskey with there kernel. Phone runs to good to worry about 2.2.
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I like this post cause so many people wanna be on 2.2 for a lot of
Reasons but I only want the flash player lol
Times never wasted when your getting waisted

Team whiskey roms are far too buggy to rely on
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snorge said:
Team whiskey roms are far too buggy to rely on
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This statement is very inaccurate. When was the last time you installed a bionix rom?
I'm running the 2.2 and it is flawless. 2.2 offers a lot of improvements over 2.1 besides flash. If you don't know what those are then you really shouldn't be giving uninformed information.
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Which one looks like stock? Both? I really despise the all black theme I see on the 2.1 Bionix roms. It just looks tacky in some places like the notifications pull down and it's too black. I see Macnut looks kind of like stock.. no screenshots included with either tho. Either way I've downloaded Macnut and I will be installing it ASAP. I'll try the other 2.2 rom next..

willsnews said:
I like this post cause so many people wanna be on 2.2 for a lot of
Reasons but I only want the flash player lol
Times never wasted when your getting waisted
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2.2 is A VERY BIG update. I dont know about Vibrant, but it should improve battery, it should run faster due to JIT, it has MANY extra features, and its compatible with 2.2 apps (new Gmail, Chrome-to-phone, youtube, flash...etc). move to 2.3 is not that big
that said, i trust TW more then Eugene.

Personally I think it's too soon to be worried about which one is better for general use. I'd give it a little time for each to get some additional polish unless you just enjoy flashing roms all the time every time a new one comes out. Chances are there'll be bug-fixes and tweaks to both in the next few days. Wait for that and more feedback from the early adopters and then decide...

When I got my phone used it had Eugenes rom on it, but I felt Bionix and team Whiskeys roms have been the best roms besides CM.
Put it this way I have only donated to 2 developers, #1 CM and #2 Team Whiskey.

kangxi said:
This statement is very inaccurate. When was the last time you installed a bionix rom?
I'm running the 2.2 and it is flawless. 2.2 offers a lot of improvements over 2.1 besides flash. If you don't know what those are then you really shouldn't be giving uninformed information.
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It isn't flawless. Calendar doesn't sync. Holding back results in a FC (new screenshot feature not implemented properly). I've had inconsistency in the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm using it and I like it, but don't throw the word 'flawless' around so easily.

If you remove screencapture.apk that fixes the back button long press fc and you need to install calendar(something).apk to fix sync issues..

It all comes down to personal preference. My experience with Eugene's 2.1 ROMs are that they're TOO skinned. I personally prefer Team Whiskey.
To answer your question about which looks more stock, Team Whiskey hasn't really skinned the Obsidian ROM all that much, so it basically looks like Stock TouchWiz.

bullale said:
It isn't flawless. Calendar doesn't sync. Holding back results in a FC (new screenshot feature not implemented properly). I've had inconsistency in the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm using it and I like it, but don't throw the word 'flawless' around so easily.
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there is a fix already for both

I was using Macnut R7 and was about to flash R9 but Team Whiskeys downloaded faster. The major difference between R9 and 7 is, wi fi calling, modem and working gps with some minor tweeks.
If that is true then my comparison won't be too far off.
The biggest difference between the too is that Team W is a near perfect leak of the official 2.2 rom and Eugene's has some mods like built lag fix and a modified version of T.W. which for the most part is better than stock (not perfect but better; in my opinion)
That should really be what makes you choose which one you want.
Secondary things to think about is that, whiskey roms are known for getting official ota's which is nice if you want to get the official with little work, but its still kinda glitchy and slower than Eugenes, but not in a bad way. If you are running stock without a lag fix then you won't notice much. Eugene's rom is highly modded and some stock things won't work like if you still have avatar on your sdcard, and since his is a port there are some remnants of I9000 and cappy things floating around that can throw you off. But it is less glitchy atm and too me looks better. It has a lightly themed Modified TW. But you can get and install that yourself if you want there is a link in the macnut thread.
Hope that helps. I'm Running tw's rom now but I'm going to check out R9.

[Q] New Epic, what to do?

Ok, So I just switched from the Evo over to my Samsung Epic and Not sure if i made the right move. Not a fan of Eclair(android 2.1) and I have not heard good news about the leaked 2.2 for the epic. I'm wondering whats an ideal setup on the epics. Do I upgrade to the leaked 2.2 and get a nice rom?(viperrom looks pretty decent) or do i stick with 2.1 and get a nice rom on that end?those who have a favorite tell me why and let me know some of the pros n cons.
P.S Hi new to forum

I would pick a nice 2.1 rom and wait for official Froyo to launch. There are some bugs with DK28 that are annoying as hell when they occur. None of the things that DK28 fixes are absolutely necessary, such as the much improved GPS. GPS still functions on 2.1, just not nearly as well as on Froyo.

You're kidding, right? GPS sucks on Froyo.
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muyoso said:
I would pick a nice 2.1 rom and wait for official Froyo to launch. There are some bugs with DK28 that are annoying as hell when they occur. None of the things that DK28 fixes are absolutely necessary, such as the much improved GPS. GPS still functions on 2.1, just not nearly as well as on Froyo.
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Just sucessfully rooted my phone and now I'm thinking on which ROM to flash to. Probably going to take your advice and stick with 2.1 for now also. Have you tried SyndicateROM? I didn't see very many options for Roms in 2.1 and found this to be only plausible option was wondering if you have tried it and what did you think?(if you have)

anon20 said:
You're kidding, right? GPS sucks on Froyo.
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Works pretty damn well for me.

coke32 said:
Just sucessfully rooted my phone and now I'm thinking on which ROM to flash to. Probably going to take your advice and stick with 2.1 for now also. Have you tried SyndicateROM? I didn't see very many options for Roms in 2.1 and found this to be only plausible option was wondering if you have tried it and what did you think?(if you have)
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I ran syndicaterom for a while. It was very stable and nice. You can also pick a kernel to use in conjunction with whatever rom you use. Stock kernel is very stable obviously, but if you have concerns about battery life or something like that, or feel a need to overclock, there are kernels available that offer that. SyndiateRom comes with the Xtreme kernel if you flash the "Full" release, if I am remembering correctly. It is a very good all around kernel, although Phoenix 1.43 was always the best with regards to battery life for me.

coke32 said:
Ok, So I just switched from the Evo over to my Samsung Epic and Not sure if i made the right move. Not a fan of Eclair(android 2.1) and I have not heard good news about the leaked 2.2 for the epic. I'm wondering whats an ideal setup on the epics. Do I upgrade to the leaked 2.2 and get a nice rom?(viperrom looks pretty decent) or do i stick with 2.1 and get a nice rom on that end?those who have a favorite tell me why and let me know some of the pros n cons.
P.S Hi new to forum
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Odin to dk28, one click root, then install bonsai rom and optionally install a theme.
With this setup my GPS works better than it has for any other phone (lock in 5-10 seconds). Flash works, and the system flies. Not many cons that I'm aware of.

Cough cough.. bakedsnackshack.com
cd's or tapes?

Yeah I was running baked snack for a while with his kernal. Very very smooth and great battery. In the end I flashed froyo and I don't have any issues at all I would realy recommend trying it if you aren't a fan of 2.1.
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anon20 said:
You're kidding, right? GPS sucks on Froyo.
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Mine is spot on....running EXT4 and custom ROM

If you want working GPS and Flash support in the browser go with a leaked DK28 ROM (ViperROM w/ EXT4 is my personal favorite). GPS is better than ever on Froyo - it actually works now! Extremely well at that... There is a process for going to DK28 and making the GPS happy, as long as you follow that process you'll be in great shape. I really can't think of a reason to be on DI18, unless you need to go into a Sprint store for some reason.

schnowdapowda said:
Cough cough.. bakedsnackshack.com
cd's or tapes?
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Still overwhelmed, but I like your site's instructions, very thorough, thumbs up for that tip, I still am on stock rooted, but one of these days....at least this site is thorough...

I agree 2.2 is the way to go. The most of the problems on froyo can be pinpointed to a problem installing it. I've flashed froyo plenty of times and if you can get the gps steps down everything should be just fine. if your staying on eclair the overclocked syndicate rom is a beast.
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I vote 2.2, I have it and haven't looked back. Its luck of the draw. Some get more bugs then others. I lucked out I guess.

Another vote for 2.2 here. My ROM recommendation is Quantum, it's well-supported and its developer is on top of his game. Some other ROMs include a lot of... gimmicks. Yeah, we'll go with gimmicks. (It slices, it dices, it automagically makes your internets faster!)
In any case, there's no real reason for Android 2.1. The leaked FroYo is stable at this point. If you're getting force closes then it probably means something went wrong during flash. If you can follow instructions then it's not difficult.

ROM Suggestion plz!

Hey XDA,
Its been a long time since I last did anything with my phone. Used to run Baked Snack and some other ROMs that were on here. Got a replacement phone and have just been running stock froyo for the past 6 months or so. I can't believe how many roms there are now for the Epic! None of them look familiar either.
I've been getting an itch to start flashing again. I was hoping to get some suggestions for what I should try next. Are there any good ones that you might recommend? I've been following MIUI for a while but am worried about reliability. As you might guess, a stable rom is most important to me. Battery life, and clean looks are also important. I don't need fancy backgrounds or startup animations. Just something as close to barebones as possible.
Any suggestions will be appreciated--TIA!

Srf 1.2 then flash the genocide 2.0 kernel in the same flash session. I'm sure many will give you this suggestion
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SRF 1.2 I use Revolted kernel w/it Sleek...clean...fast...no FCs. Many out there, but I'm stuck on this one. I think they're working on 1.3.
I like Go Green too, just the select menu was hard to read. But it's nice nonetheless. I think I ran that on EH17. SRF is EC05 based.
Anyhow...qbking77 has some great vids on youtube...there you can see how some of them look and work before trying them.
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.OmEgA said:
Srf 1.2 then flash the genocide 2.0 kernel in the same flash session. I'm sure many will give you this suggestion
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One more thing the journalon.zip too
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I like aosp rom
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I agree, Simply AOSP v4, and v4.1 will be out this weekend. It has journaling on by default and will flash the kernel automatically
But in all fairness, there really isn't a bad ROM in the Epic forum.

If you want no problems and basic rooted stock then you want either ReRFS ROM or odin in EC05plus.

volcomssj48 said:
Hey XDA,
Its been a long time since I last did anything with my phone. Used to run Baked Snack and some other ROMs that were on here. Got a replacement phone and have just been running stock froyo for the past 6 months or so. I can't believe how many roms there are now for the Epic! None of them look familiar either.
I've been getting an itch to start flashing again. I was hoping to get some suggestions for what I should try next. Are there any good ones that you might recommend? I've been following MIUI for a while but am worried about reliability. As you might guess, a stable rom is most important to me. Battery life, and clean looks are also important. I don't need fancy backgrounds or startup animations. Just something as close to barebones as possible.
Any suggestions will be appreciated--TIA!
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Gotta say..EC05 with SFR 1.2 and genocide.....i've flashed them all and for me this is the most stable

Whichever you decide, please read through the entire thread for that ROM in Development so you can see what issues might pop up and what was done to resolve them.

Bonsai 4.1.3 has been my go-to ROM. It's as close to perfect as I could imagine, really really stable, great battery life, and overall just reliable. It also does this without replacing your sounds with stupid robot noises, heavy metal guitars, or putting some ridiculous theme on your phone.
You'll have to google "epic 4g bonsai" to find the site, it's not available in the dev forums here.

I like stock for the most part, EH17
Though I have updated to EH17plus kernel

Best Rom for Epic

Hey there, getting an Epic very shortly and looking for what you folks find is the best ROM out there for it?

None and All. This is like the 30th thread in the last month exactly like this. Is search broken again?
For your answser..they are all good. Read the 1st post in each one to see if it has what you want because many have themes. Find what you like then read the whole thread so you know what issues you may encounter.
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Also I'm curious if you don't mind answering why are you getting the Epic?
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My money is on him getting the Epic Touch and he just didnt know there was a difference. Any takers?
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lancelane said:
My money is on him getting the Epic Touch and he just didnt know there was a difference. Any takers?
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I'll go $5! Epic is only $49 with new contract and with the slide out keyboard makes it real tempting for new customers.
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kennyglass123 said:
I'll go $5! Epic is only $49 with new contract and with the slide out keyboard makes it real tempting for new customers.
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This is what I'm thinking lol
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I think sams club has it for like $26..

xTmDarren said:
I think sams club has it for like $26..
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$0.97 at walmart

Tumpster said:
Hey there, getting an Epic very shortly and looking for what you folks find is the best ROM out there for it?
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There are lots of roms, and neither are the best. I beleive roms are NEVER stable. They always need to be modified, they always need to meet standards. No best ROM.. Period. But if I were to choose, MIUI would be the best LOOKING but not the best that's working.

its free on amazon..

I always try any rom thats put up because i like new things but im have been sticking with stuff from ERA on EC05 for stability
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So far I have used SRF, Reborn, ACS Bambozzled, ERA Viper, and I am currently using Simply AOSP. I have loved each Rom I have used, each have their quirks. Usually the GB runs give me a few headaches... like restoring with titanium screws up my app space, GPS is up and down, etc. I would recommend using an EC05 Rom until things are fully stable with GB (especially CM7 Selfkang), just to save yourself a few headaches.

Try Everything!
Tumpster said:
Hey there, getting an Epic very shortly and looking for what you folks find is the best ROM out there for it?
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I've only used a few. Stock, Viper (apocalypse, frozen, and synergy), and urban legend (fury and regen). I'm currently using Urban Regen 1.1.1, with Rodericks genocide 2.0 kernel. Lately, I try to stick with EC05 based ROMs and kernels for their stability and the number of options out there for EC05. I'm relatively new to rooting and flashing so i don't know everything there is to know about it, but I'm learning fast. I'm definitely not new to tech, holding a few IT certifications, a degree in CNT and presently in school working on another degree, so my knowledge of operating systems (especialy linux ) is helping me learn much faster. The best advice i can give you, is to read the forums, ask questions when you can't find an answer (no matter how stupid you think the question is) and to try a little of everything until you find what you like or learn how to do it yourself, lol. There are tons of guides, wikis, and awesome developers who are willing to help you as long as you try your best to help yourself as well. You'll get the occasional put down, or get called a noob, you'll make mistakes and feel dumb, but everyone does so don't worry about it. Just try to remember that pretty much any question you can think of, any problem you run into, and disaster you cause, has probably happened to someone else before and has probably been addressed more than twice on these forums, so do some searching before you just start posting "HELLLLLLP MEEEEEEE!!!" Another piece of advice i can give you, that i did with my first phone, is get a decent size and class sd, read a guide on how to dual boot ROMs (i think theres even an app now that does most of it for you!), root your phone, leave the stock ROM on your phone, flash a good kernel that supports dual booting (check out genocide 2.0). That way, you can try out new ROMs as much as you like and always be able to revert back to stock when you need some stability or if you run into bugs.
Good Luck!
Genocide 2.0 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961614
SRF (seems to be pretty popular, ive never tried it): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091680
ViperROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=999894
Urban regen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013065
a list of ROMs that will most likely link you right back to XDA, lol: http://theunlockr.com/category/roms-2/android-roms-2/samsung-epic-4g-roms/

I like (no bias)
Srf 1.2+Genocide 2.0 kernel+ Supercharger scripts
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I've been rocking SRF 1.2 for about 3 months now with the Twilight Zone 1.1.1 Kernel. Very stable, no force closes or reboots, GPS locks instantly, over a full day of battery life. I'd stick with EC05 ROMs until the official GB ROMs drop. I've tried a few of the leaked GB roms and none of them have been stable enough to be daily drivers.

steveo314 said:
its free on amazon..
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Wow...now that's cheap ;8
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marcusant said:
I like (no bias)
Srf 1.2+Genocide 2.0 kernel+ Supercharger scripts
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Which scripts you running? Just curious, been thinking of flashing back to SRF.
I've been rollin' with IAP Rebirth the past several weeks. Awesome ROM, but I've been getting reboots. Haven't even touched the Supercharger scripts and it's the most responsive ROM I've used.

Good ROM to try out?

hey guys iv been rooted since day 1 and iv been on KINGS ROM since day 1 as well!
but i want to get off of kings rom and try out new stable rom. what are the good ones out there?

If you never use your 4G, then MIUI is the ROM for you. It's fast, stable, and energy-efficient despite all the "bugs" people ramble about. It's also very customizable and updates every Friday to ensure you always get the latest versions and bug fixes.

Lacedaemon said:
If you never use your 4G, then MIUI is the ROM for you. It's fast, stable, and energy-efficient despite all the "bugs" people ramble about. It's also very customizable and updates every Friday to ensure you always get the latest versions and bug fixes.
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+1 Miui isgreat.
idont get 4g where i live, so zero loss there

Lacedaemon said:
If you never use your 4G, then MIUI is the ROM for you. It's fast, stable, and energy-efficient despite all the "bugs" people ramble about. It's also very customizable and updates every Friday to ensure you always get the latest versions and bug fixes.
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iv tried out MIUI. i didnt really like it cause theres TOO much stuff to customize lol.
plus i dont get 4g where i live =(

If you have not tried a Sense 3.5 ROM yet I suggest $PrimeXL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354283

for aosp gingerbread evo deck, and for sense I love $PrimeXL

Xplod is a CM based rom thats very fast and all the profiles are up todate,very customizable and lots of mods. TN's Xplod

Also try sinister it's mix of sense 2.1 and 3.0 . Sense 3.5 roms have one isssue or another.
Decks doesn't have flash working in 4g
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Warrior 3000 said:
hey guys iv been rooted since day 1 and iv been on KINGS ROM since day 1 as well!
but i want to get off of kings rom and try out new stable rom. what are the good ones out there?
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check out the link in my sig, all aosp roms are there

Decks 1.3d with tiatmat 3.3.7 kernal + go launcher + lawsons blue theme + car-o-dope tweak = Cleanest quickest best performing Rom for the Evo
Oh ya throw a bit of a2sd in the mix and you'll never look back
And just a quick +1 for the Cardinals win today

Prime XL!!!!

Go launcher becomes laggy as balls when I put widgets on my home screen.

Hazelfoot said:
Go launcher becomes laggy as balls when I put widgets on my home screen.
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Have u ever used go launcher with v6 or car-o-dope Tweak. No lag just balls
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there should be some fresh ICS based roms shortly.
myself, i come back to CM7 everytime i try to wander away to some other rom.

Roms
Where can I go to download these ROMS? Where can I search for them?

M7XH said:
Where can I go to download these ROMS? Where can I search for them?
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In the development section
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I can't wait to get my hands on a stable ICS rom. It will just give us EVO owners that much more shelf life.
Question, I know there is an Alpha for ICS in the works right now. Do the developers already have everything they need to develop the rom or does a phone like the Galaxy Nexus which will have ICS stock have to come out first?
As for a good current rom, I'm running Mik 2.61, very clean, stable and great battery life. It's a Sense rom, different themes are available.
DraginMagik said:
there should be some fresh ICS based roms shortly.
myself, i come back to CM7 everytime i try to wander away to some other rom.
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I am really enjoying using [ROM]11/22/11 RCMix3d Runny® ☰SENSE 3.5 Blue/Glass