please help me stop the fair usage policy - Galaxy S I9000 General

I know this isnt galaxy related as such but please take a moment to sign the petition:
http://www.petition.co.uk/unlimited-data-fair-use-policy-removal
please please sign this and pass it on to as many people as possible.
This is to petition Ofcom to get communication providers to remove the word unlimited from their product descriptions where a fair use policy exists.
The oxford dictionary describes the word unlimited as:
1 not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent:
If you are sold a product as unlimited that is what it should be, companies should no longer be able to use unfair practices enforcing restrictions when their product contains the word unlimited.
I urge everyone in the UK to sign this petition and stop companies falsifying their advertisements to sell their products.
As an example:
BT option 3 broadband unlimited has a fair usage policy of 100GB per month, logic dictates then that option 3 is 100GB and not unlimited.
Let’s stop ISP's from doing this no matter if it's home broadband or a mobile data plan.
Let’s get clarity in what we pay for and not allow companies to get away with it anymore!

Hi mate,
We have the same thing in Australia. I believe the difference between unlimited with fair use and actually giving you the quota is that with fair use they cannot charge you more if you go over.
I think they have to actually discuss it with you and find solution. If the same thing happened with normal quota they actually will charge you on top which is quite expensive here.
K.
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Your link is broken mate.

Should be fixed now thanks mate
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I have signed it i hope many many others do
I F**KING HATE FALSE ADVERTISEMENT..... MONEY GRABBING B*S*ARDS !!!!

I would gladly and eagerly sign but I do not want my email added to the petitioners list and it will not allow me to sign without doing so.

Tehpriest said:
I would gladly and eagerly sign but I do not want my email added to the petitioners list and it will not allow me to sign without doing so.
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+1 on the above comment

Signed! Let's declare "war" on those moneygrabbing ****** ...

Nobody can see your email not even me but why not sign up for a free email account somewhere and use that. We need as many people as possible to sign a little effort can go a long way
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waz000000 said:
Nobody can see your email not even me but why not sign up for a free email account somewhere and use that. We need as many people as possible to sign a little effort can go a long way
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If that is the case then just switch the option in your control panel to allow the NO option to be used. Much easier.

Its not my site I'm not affilaited with it in any way its just there's no no 10 petition available any more and this site looked the best option.
I have no control other than start and stop.
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Same thing in India, but with even WORSE limits like 6GB, 10GB, 15GB etc
http://afup.broadbandforum.in

Those companies do the same all around the world. In Brazil, "unlimited" plans cut you out as soon as you reach 2GB.

This is why I got my SGS on contract from 3.
data is "all you can eat" and they mean it... unlike orange etc 3 have their own infrastructure, towers, etc.

I'm actually okay with "fair usage policies"... Just read the actual contract before you sign it. I have unlimited same network calls which is not really unlimited- but 3000 mins per month.. which for a reasonable person is pretty unlimited.

Likewise as long as the FUP is clear before i buy and it usually is if you bother to look .
Agree with the word Unlimited is bad but that goes for ISPs as well as networks .
I see no way a campaign like this can work spread across multiple networks and countries . Who you going to appeal to United Nations .
jje

you should never under estimate the power of speech

you should never under estimate the power of speech
But the right people have to be hearing it .
A single target with a massive feedback/complaints would be more effective as the effort is not diluted . If the single target then decides to adopt what is required rest assured that they will make publicity out of it forcing others to go that way .
One thing is for sure all you can eat internet over the networks will mean hefty price rises .
jje

JJEgan said:
you should never under estimate the power of speech
But the right people have to be hearing it .
A single target with a massive feedback/complaints would be more effective as the effort is not diluted . If the single target then decides to adopt what is required rest assured that they will make publicity out of it forcing others to go that way .
One thing is for sure all you can eat internet over the networks will mean hefty price rises .
jje
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Yea, true in that sense,
It could happen however, but it would need a lot more than the people on XDA to sign it, needs every person that has signed it to get their friends and family to sign it, and then their friends and family...... and so on....
But all i meant was power of speech can do good things. But TBH unless this gets millions of signatures, i think it will end up in the recycle bin.

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College Student Goes To Cancun For A Week, Comes Back To $11,667 Sprint Bill

http://con.st/10009371 with an evo
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Well seeing how they're supposed to shut the account down if you go over a spending limit, I call bull****.
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backdown said:
Well seeing how they're supposed to shut the account down if you go over a spending limit, I call bull****.
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not everyone gets that spending limit. people on iffy credit get put on it. if you have awesome credit then theres no spending limit so they can catch you with a 11k phone bill. my friend has a 600 dollar overdue bill meanwhile i have a 150 limit
I have heard of this on Verizon as well I believe it. If ur going out of the country turn off everything or leave ur phone at home...
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Well seeing how they're supposed to shut the account down if you go over a spending limit, I call bull****.
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manooti said:
not everyone gets that spending limit. people on iffy credit get put on it. if you have awesome credit then theres no spending limit so they can catch you with a 11k phone bill. my friend has a 600 dollar overdue bill meanwhile i have a 150 limit
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This is insane, ridiculous unbelievable.. Good luck to Stacey and her Family...
what she probably failed to realize is that the evo background syncs a whole lot. so while she may have only been on facebook for a couple of minutes, htc sense was on it all day. plus sense weather was collecting data for location and weather etc etc..
While I feel sympathy for how outrageous the bill is, she should have known international data roaming is $$$
When I was in Cancun last month, I was in airplane mode the entire time. What an idiot!
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i want to feel sorry for her but her numbers dont eve match up she listed both 600 mb and 4.7 gb as how much data she used. 5 mintues of face book pushing emails background data from weather etc wont run either of those ina week. now if she was using qik or something to broadcast her vacation to the world for a few hours maybe.
while its easy to feel sorry for her and blame sprint the question is who is on the account? it sounds like it was a shared plan and that her parents had enabled international roaming and were told the charges when they did however they didnt tell their daughter.
with the discrepency in the amount of data used in her story, the fact she said she wasnt internationally set up but still thought to get on facebook and the fact sprint has confirmed the phone esn wasnt duplicated etc i tend to think she is giving a partial story, and is upset as anyone would be with the bill.
My guess she knew she was going to get charged but didnt realize exactly how much it would cost her and used it anyway. Then came home to a big bill and so downplays her usage to try to get it reduced and is upset as anyone would be with the extreme charges.
thats at least what i would bet the case is.
facebook sync loop for the loss!
Sorry, seems iffy to me. Only using FB 5 times a day and text messages? There is no way that is even close to that sort of data usage.
Screenshots or it didn't happen.
I don't really curse much but; That is a REALLY STUPID *****. I am sorry to say. After reading what happened from the orignal thread starter and the other posters in the sprint user forum, she is at fault because like a majority of consumers, she doesn't read the documents provided to her and expects the company to clean up the mess she started and made.
I really hate when consumers get away with things like this. They are purposely clueless too take advantage of companies. I am no company lobbyist, but I guess I should be dumb too if it will get me a freebie.
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It's her fault and sprints. Sprint should have shut off service after $1k or 2k of charges and got verbal confirmation before restoring service. If they can protect themselves from users who abuse their service with large data usages then why not with excessive charges.
thisguyinoc said:
When I was in Cancun last month, I was in airplane mode the entire time. What an idiot!
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Same here, went on a cruise to the Bahamas and left the phone turned off. My buddy had his on airplane mode and just used it for taking pics. Whether or not the rates are correct, its pretty stupid to use the phone for anything other than emergencies when you're in another country. Even with international calling, I don't think that applies to data. I could be wrong though. Seriously, you couldn't stay off Facebook for a frickin week?!?
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IceCreaMan said:
It's her fault and sprints. Sprint should have shut off service after $1k or 2k of charges and got verbal confirmation before restoring service. If they can protect themselves from users who abuse their service with large data usages then why not with excessive charges.
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Because in one instance they would be limiting access to their equipment from heavy users who were previously promised "unlimited" service (if this was indeed the case with Sprint); but in the other instance they have no incentive to do so - they are simply counting money.
I agree, however, that it would be ethical to:
1. Put an end to ridiculous international roaming charges somehow
2. Provide adequate warning to customers where #1 is not possible (due to politics, etc.); if one can get a free text message when the monthly bill is due, there's no reason something like that can't be set up for roaming:
"Hey customer, as a courtesy notice, as of mm/dd/yyyy you have accumulated $X in roaming charges. You can turn off your phone, or keep using it according to your roaming agreement - link here."
where X can be 300, 500, 1000, etc. or several of the above.
Stupid.
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"College student does something stupid that costs them a lot of money"
This isn't news... hell, it's an everyday occurrence!!
i used to be a escalation supervisor for a sprint call center and i can tell you that this is valid charge. at most they'll probably meet her half way...those intl charges can suck but that what she gets for being a dumb *****! btw i seen higher!
Decided to use my ip hone instead of my evo last month in cancun. Even with all international features enabled, I still ran up a 1400 dollar bill . Was my fault I paid it. Just my experience.

please help me stop the fair usage policy

I know this isnt galaxy related as such but please take a moment to sign the petition:
http://www.petition.co.uk/unlimited-data-fair-use-policy-removal
please please sign this and pass it on to as many people as possible.
This is to petition Ofcom to get communication providers to remove the word unlimited from their product descriptions where a fair use policy exists.
The oxford dictionary describes the word unlimited as:
1 not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent:
If you are sold a product as unlimited that is what it should be, companies should no longer be able to use unfair practices enforcing restrictions when their product contains the word unlimited.
I urge everyone in the UK to sign this petition and stop companies falsifying their advertisements to sell their products.
As an example:
BT option 3 broadband unlimited has a fair usage policy of 100GB per month, logic dictates then that option 3 is 100GB and not unlimited.
Let’s stop ISP's from doing this no matter if it's home broadband or a mobile data plan.
Let’s get clarity in what we pay for and not allow companies to get away with it anymore!
Good luck! I want the same thing here in the US, but of course the whole "smaller government" crowd calls this more, bad government regulation--when in fact it is allowing corporations to change the English language ... which too many of us don't properly use anyway.
Way to get active and get involved!
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Well hopefully this will kick start the whole world stopping this from happening
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A little shunt to make sure everyone gets a chance to sign cone on people make your voice heard
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Well its not exactly black and white when it comes to this issue and you dont seem to understand what they are saying is "unlimited".
For example if they say the "browsing" is unlimited then thats ok as you have unlimited browsing, if you use 100GB a month then you are not simply just browsing you are also downloading data like apps/music etc which is where the fair usage comes into play.
Another scenario is when you have it advertised as "unlimited" data, but after a fair usage your speed gets capped, now you can still download as much as you want but just at a lower speed, so your data is "unlimited" its just your speed isnt.
Now another example is when they say "unlimited" data but after a fair use they cut you off, then that IS wrong and its that, that needs to be chnaged in regards to advertising.
If you are silly enough not to look into things before buying then its as much your fault as its the companies, however advertising laws do need to be looked at as some are quite misleading in the way they are advertised.
Which particular advertisement cheesed you off so much as to make this topic?
To be fair, when it comes to cellular data, it seems that the industry has already stopped this practice to a large degree.
Look at the websites for Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile and O2, none of them say "unlimited data" any more - I'm sure there are places on the websites where it does say it, but if you look at their monthly plans they all talk about data allowances.
Three was a champion for honesty in their data allowances, but of course since they now offer truly unlimited data, they can honestly say unlimited data!
As far as BT Broadband Option 3 is concerned - well, they are dropping their FUP limits from next month too! (See here).
Seems to me that there is little point now, since the industry is clearly self-regulating wisely here.
Regards,
Dave

Email sent to Dan Hesse

I sent an email to Dan Hesse (no im not gullable enough to think he is actually going to read it) asking why they took away the tethering feature with this update. I konw most of you are rooted here and this doesn't affect you but this was a big deal. I bought this phone for this reason and now it is gone, how is that legal? Anyone else want to get a class action lawsuit going?
cardsfan01 said:
I sent an email to Dan Hesse (no im not gullable enough to think he is actually going to read it) asking why they took away the tethering feature with this update. I konw most of you are rooted here and this doesn't affect you but this was a big deal. I bought this phone for this reason and now it is gone, how is that legal? Anyone else want to get a class action lawsuit going?
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Free tethering wasn't a feature you signed onto when you signed your contract. It was a nice little extra that Android provided which is clearly not what the carriers wanted and for which they now took away.
Did you see that Sprint just had a net loss of almost 850 million dollars... Despite a GAIN of 1 million subscribers. They have to do something lol.
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I was pissed about that as well, mostly because when I bought the phone the rep said it was a feature of the phone and since google was in charge of updates that sprint couldn't take it away. However, in another thread someone pointed out to me that tethering is an explicit violation of the terms of service agreement and the phone is subsidized by sprint so they are not really doing anything that you could sue them about. It is disappointing, but at least getting it back is easy through rooting.
Is this thread serious?
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the tethering app itself is there and still works, it does what the app is supposed to do. sprint how ever just disabled the connection on their end to accounts that dont have the add on........which is totally their right to do. while the app comes with the phone is free no one ever said the service was included
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Did you see that Sprint just had a net loss of almost 850 million dollars... Despite a GAIN of 1 million subscribers. They have to do something lol.
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More than 600,000 of those were in the prepaid sector. They actually had a net loss of more than 100,000 in the post paid sector.
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With Sprint I sort of understand the legitimacy of wanting to charge extra for tethering, since they have true unlimited data and people who tether regularly can use an assload of bandwidth. But the other carriers all cap their data plans and charge extra for tethering. That is bullcrap.
Just root your phone and install tether and stop complaining... it takes 5 seconds.
i dont use the tether and dont have any plans to, i agree that using the rooted one is all too easy (its what 99% of teh rest of the android population have to do).
BUT
i do believe its rather annoying that the nexus 1 came and went with free tethering, the nexus s is on so many different carriers domestic and international.. yet sprint is the first one to throw up a fit about tethering. not saying that its wrong for them to, just feeling like a red headed stepchild of the nexus s family.
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I sent an email to Dan Hesse (no im not gullable enough to think he is actually going to read it) asking why they took away the tethering feature with this update. I konw most of you are rooted here and this doesn't affect you but this was a big deal. I bought this phone for this reason and now it is gone, how is that legal? Anyone else want to get a class action lawsuit going?
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The free tether was not advertised as being free it was never writter or expressed. You just got a free bonus. IMO. Also the free tether was supposed to be remove on the update that occurred right after the phone was launched and it wasn't. I suggest rooting your phone its easy with an untold amount of benefits.
Does the removal of free tethering constitute as change in contract ? I would love to get out of my contract without penalty.
wow I love how people get up on a soapbox and complain without research first.
Free tethering was never offically free from sprint. So you want to cancel your contract/send emails/get red in the face over something that most people already knew.
get over it there are ways around these things which for the most part why we are all here to enhance our phones.
teshxx said:
Does the removal of free tethering constitute as change in contract ? I would love to get out of my contract without penalty.
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Read your contract and let me know if you see free tethering in there
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hellcatt said:
the tethering app itself is there and still works, it does what the app is supposed to do. sprint how ever just disabled the connection on their end to accounts that dont have the add on........which is totally their right to do. while the app comes with the phone is free no one ever said the service was included
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I thought the 2.3.5 update is what disable it? If so, that is hardly "on their end." It's on our end, inside our own hardware which we purchased.
Unless I am mistaken and they rolled out a network change at the exact same moment as a software change. But if they were magically blocking tethering from their end... then wouldn't it block our rooted tethering too?
I agree it's not the end of the world and rooted tether is easy. But I think it might be inaccurate to say an update to our phones is happening on their end.
DirtyShroomz said:
Read your contract and let me know if you see free tethering in there
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If the purchase contract to my car said I couldn't drive it while chewing gum, I'd walk out of the dealer. If the purchase contracts for ALL cars said that, I'd buy one of them and then go home and break the terms.
Just because it's in the contract doesn't mean it is right. We pay for a DATA service to a piece of hardware. What we do with data that has been fed into that device is our own decision, morally and logically. Sprint does not govern the airwaves in my own house that originate from a piece of hardware I own.
In reality it's not a big deal, but in principle it is 100% wrong.
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If the purchase contract to my car said I couldn't drive it while chewing gum, I'd walk out of the dealer. If the purchase contracts for ALL cars said that, I'd buy one of them and then go home and break the terms.
Just because it's in the contract doesn't mean it is right. We pay for a DATA service to a piece of hardware. What we do with data that has been fed into that device is our own decision, morally and logically. Sprint does not govern the airwaves in my own house that originate from a piece of hardware I own.
In reality it's not a big deal, but in principle it is 100% wrong.
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The DATA service to use the phone as a wireless hotspot/tether is an extra $29.99, whether we agree with that or not. If you don't think a contract is right then you don't sign it/use the service.
The111 said:
If the purchase contract to my car said I couldn't drive it while chewing gum, I'd walk out of the dealer. If the purchase contracts for ALL cars said that, I'd buy one of them and then go home and break the terms.
Just because it's in the contract doesn't mean it is right. We pay for a DATA service to a piece of hardware. What we do with data that has been fed into that device is our own decision, morally and logically. Sprint does not govern the airwaves in my own house that originate from a piece of hardware I own.
In reality it's not a big deal, but in principle it is 100% wrong.
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Your fight is with congress. Verizon/at&t/comcast/etc they lobbied pretty hard so that net neutrality not be on wireless lines. So the government has allowed from now and out what can be defined as a data over wireless. So what if sprint wants to charge you extra on your contract for a smartphone when you want to use their network for serving up data for laptops/some use for Xbox live and stuff if it is needed so badly on the users end to have mobile data well.
So think about if sprint were to allow free tethering on all phones, well businesses would flock to them for company plans to cut costs, and the flocks of data whores out there that love to rack up data on their phones. Our network would blow, congestion please.
Sprint and wireless telcos don't govern all the airwaves in your own house just the frequencies they use to provide you with a service which at signing is for that piece of hardware you bought from them, then activated that hardware on their network.
This by no means is me getting angry with you but hopefully more people will read this and look this up and let the information flow out. Our government is to blame allowing this to happen. By allowing them to define mobile data is why we have to pay the most expensive data rates for texting and such.
Now imagine this verizon which is new kinda to home tv and high speed fiber to the home. Perhaps they use some of the lte network to start providing tv and home internet. Now they would have complete control over how you watch and your internet. Maybe they have to throttle your HD channels cause you've been watching to much HBO movies. Why not they will all tell you Netflix kills their backend but watching vod has no strain on the network.....I've been ranting for too long sorry
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BrianDigital said:
So think about if sprint were to allow free tethering on all phones, well businesses would flock to them for company plans to cut costs, and the flocks of data whores out there that love to rack up data on their phones. Our network would blow, congestion please.
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Agreed 100%, but the issue is traffic, not tethering. If they want to limit traffic or introduce a tiered plan, that is fine (it might piss me off, but it is a rational right they have). It is rational to expect to pay per amount of data streamed to my device. But it is not rational to tell me what to do with data received on my end.
Replace DATA with WATER. If I pay the city for x amount of water per month, once it arrives on my doorstep, can they charge me more if I add plumbing in my house that transports it to the backyard, or my basement? Or install an extra faucet in a guest bedroom?
seezar said:
The DATA service to use the phone as a wireless hotspot/tether is an extra $29.99, whether we agree with that or not. If you don't think a contract is right then you don't sign it/use the service.
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Please see my example above about water.
If every single water company in town told you it was $50 per month to get 200 gallons of water piped to your house, but there would be a $30 surcharge (for the same amount) if you had more than 2 faucets in your house, would you:
(a) Tell them about all 4 of your faucets and pay $80
(b) Tell them you have 2 faucets and pay $50
If (a), then I question your thought processes. Common wisdom (in my mind at least) is that it is a citizen's duty to disobey unjust rules. Yes, I am being overdramatic here, and no a contract from Sprint is not a law. But it leans on the law (as the post above mentions), and ALL providers lean on that same unjust law...

[How To] Save your unlimited data plan after tethering notice

I was using about 70-90 Gb data a month for the past few months, mostly because of tethering. I recieved the first warning, and then yesterday the final notice stating i WOULD be changed to 45$ 4Gb tethering plan next bill. Well i spent hours and hours calling back different times with different point. most being legality, and privacy issues. Nothing worked, UNTIL i got a very nice man who was describing tethering to me and how watching netflix on ur phone then attaching hdmi is still condisdered tethering. I told him i have CM7 and that it was a non-stock os, and that all i have been doing is watching netflix or hulu on my tv via the hdmi port and mirroring. he extended my cut off date to right after the conversation, so that as long as i did not tether after that (connect my phone to my tv, lamo!) i would no longer be switched. he gave me a third chance and i am very thankfull. if you do not get the response u want to hear, try, try again..generally with a different rep, but they HAVE HAVE HAVE to be in the tethering watch dept. i believe he said its called "EOS" dept. I also filled a complaint with the better business bureau, but im positive just a bluff would do the trick.
just remember, make sure you are speaking to the right department before you get all down and dirty into why you believe this is unjust, and use the TV excuse and dont ever tether again unless u wanna loose to AT&T
This ****s real, one you get your first notice, be smart, unlike me and stop effing tethering...unless u r on a tiered data plan....then tether away amigo
I have been using 40gb up to 70gb since i got my unlimited data back 2-3 months ago. Never gotten an notice. Been doing the same thing as you, plus using pdanet to use my computer and torrents.
Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!
CaelanT said:
Both of you abusing the system so to speak, and that's why the rest of us also have to pay the price. I can fully understand the OP getting notice, and for once actually agree with AT&T, except that I wouldn't have given you a third chance.
If you are using that much data tethering, I am more than happy to see them cut your data off completely!
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Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
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you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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I am happy when I see threads like this. People complain about AT&T having ****ty service, but it is out of their control when people are hogging 50-100 GB over a wireless connection. Wireless is shared bandwidth, unlike a wired connection, so the network performs worse for other users when somebody it using massive bandwidth.
Unlimited doesn't give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.
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Unlimited does give you the right to abuse the network and make it worse for others. P2P is abuse, per AT&T's terms of use.
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i'm assuming you meant DOESN'T give you the right...?
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People certainly have the right to complain about AT&Ts new practices but 40-90 gb is overkill. Its hard to sympathize with you guys. I got the notice and I've only used 5gb of data.
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mac208x said:
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
If i cant use it as much as i want, what is the point of having unlimited data than?
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Ya well 4G isn't 4G with them either. The point is that everybody else has to suffer by paying more, AND dealing with a more congested network.
Tethering was really meant for emergency purposes, or when the local coffee shop is closed and you need to be online browsing/checking email for a "short period of time"...
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Just saying..
ifalldownalot said:
you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
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Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..
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Now, with that said.. going crazy with it like there is no tomorrow, that is another arguement/story.. ...
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That's the point people are making. I have unlimited also, but I don't abuse it by using my cell phone data plan as I do my high speed internet at home. Tethering isn't the issue, ludicrously high data usage is because it affects every user.
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Unfortunately... when he walked up to the booth, it was occupied, and that person behind the counter sold him the 'unlimited service(products)' plan, we all know ATT doesn't offer free services(products in your analogy).. he's not paying for a limited(tiered) plan... now, if he takes more than the ones who are paying for a 'tiered' plan, he's entitled to it, he's paying for that 'unlimited' plan, not a limited one.. ya know.. just saying...
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And yes.. I do have the unlimited data plan as well.. I just don't go nuts with it..
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ha. yeah you're right in that aspecto. i was just trying to point out the blatant lack of consumer responsibility.
i, too, have unlimited data. i stream music, netflix, google navigation.
and i don't hit 5gb a month. I don't even typically hit 2GB. it's the people who constantly abuse the unlimited data plan so that are causing AT&T to imposed stricter and stricter regulations on their customers. Granted, there's greed thrown in there as well. but until every single one of us customers isn't doing anything irresponsible, then collectively we look like ignorant customers. i'd understand if all customers used 5gb and AT&T was behaving as they are now, then I, too, would be pissed.
your car tops out at 140mph. you don't drive it that fast all the time out of courtesy to others on the road and you just knowing you shouldn't. you can. but you shouldn't.
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..... you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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Sorry to burst your bubble about no data cap on home internet. I was issued a Notice that I exceeded my data usage cap with Cox Communications last month in San Diego (premier 25mbs/sec plan). I have 3 TVs all hooked up to either pandora, Netflix, Hulu +, or Playstation Network. (Normal computer web surfing as well).
But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
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you're abusing it, though.
It's like when you go to events and there's free products and the booth is. unoccupied and there's a sign that says one per person, you're the person who opens up a bag and takes more than their fair share.
it's a lack of courtesy, is what it basically is.
pdanet and torrenting? you're doing completely unnecessary stuff that you could do on your home computer with your home Internet without data cap worries.
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Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
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But back on topic. The unlimited label should be removed as it borders on false advertisement.
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I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
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Well sir im sorry for having something called work if you haven't heard of it yet. I do not have time do nothing else than sleep at home while working 16h shifts. That's why I do everything at work and they don't have wifi. Also if you haven't heard there is actually caps on home internet. Compacts has a 100-150gb cap and AT&T 300gb I think and its easy to go over it also. Trust me I have went over 350gb.
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Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB cap.
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I tottaly agree with you. Plus how would they prove what you do on your phone? If they can that's a privacy issue right there. Its called unlimited for a reason.
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It's not a privacy issue when the data usage is provided by them. You expect them not to know how much data you use? Also, if you are referring to tethering, they don't have to do anything but look at the information you actually agree to providing them to determine packet usage. Without packet usage you can have no data, and TTL (Time To Live) is a timestamp embedded in all data. When you use their service you freely agree to them knowing this in order to provide said service, and thus give them the authority to see what you are doing regarding packet hops.
And I thought I was an ass just for using 6GB. OP, you're ruining it for all of us. But that's bull crap that AT&T considers mirroring and the like "tethering." Is it also considered tethering to use Google Music with your car?
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Trust me, if they did have wifi at your work, and you did that on a company network, you wouldn't be working there for long. Stop downloading illegal content. That's the only reason you are racking up that kind data usage.
If you meant Comcast when you said Compacts, they have a 250GB
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if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
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if they did have wifi, they wouldn't care at all. I know. And comast has a 150gb cap on their base plan, 250gb on their higher plans.
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Get better internet then.
I got the notice using my 5 GB a month tethering. To heck with AT&T! That being said, some of you guys are clearly abusing the system and deserve the consequences!
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EE uk data plans

Hay guys not sure if this is the right place to post, But if its not please feel free to let me know on move the post.
As people in the UK are aware as of today EE has just turned on there 4G network. This is fantastic in the fact that we are finally moving forward with the technology in the UK.
The only problem is , is that there data packages are stupidly expansive and you get enough data on the lowest package to last you 3 mins. How stupid is that, that not progression but a step back. So it looks like they are just out to exploit the people of the UK.
In the UK we all communication providers are governed by a governing body called Ofcom (for those of you outside of the UK). Now my point is that EE should not be allowed to exploit people of the UK . By completely over pricing there products. I am trying to rally the people of the UK ( and the world ) to get something done about this. I found that Ofcom are actually on social media sites. ( http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/). My suggestion is that if we can get as many people to comment post and tweet them complaining about this. Then it will force them to do something about it and hopefully force EE to increase data in there packages or drop there prices..
So please join me in hitting them with as many complaints as possible to get something done about this. I have already started Tweeting Ofcom. So feel free to re-tweet. Check my signature for twitter ID.
Thanks for reading guys....
+1
500mb 4G for I think £36 a month!
With potential speeds of 30mbps+ ... I don't want to know how 500mb will last
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After months of criticism for their meagre allowances, EE have just increased the data allowance on all of their 4G plans. For example, EE46 used to get you 3gb, now you'll get 10gb.
However, existing customers won't get the increase. I've asked, and been told no, absolutely no way will they give me the 10gb allowance that a new customer signing up today for the same plan I joined a month ago will get.
The only way for an existing customer to take advantage of the new allowance levels is to increase your plan level, ie I would have to switch the the EE51 plan, which would get me 20gb!
This is awful customer service, a huge f--- you to all of their customers who have been with them from the ropey launch of the service right up to people who joined yesterday, just before the announcement. They want more money from us, to get the same service that a new customer would get. Shocking.
If this effects you, complain loudly to the network, to your friends and colleagues, on twitter and facebook etc, make them give you a fair deal. They need to get bad publicity from this d-ck move, especially now that their competitors are about to roll out their 4g plans.

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