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Just wanted to say - I got my Xoom, and yes, I do see some freezes and weird behavior every once in a while.
It doesn't bother me though.
We're all early adopters helping to push Honeycomb forward. Since Xoom is the only tablet atm that uses honeycomb, and it's a pure "Google Experience Device", I'm sure we'll have updates from ElGoog soon and often. Plus, this device is a heaven for developmental though and experimentation, so I'm sure we'll see great things from our local genuises at XDA.
So everyone chill and enjoy a rare opportunity to be there when it all starts =)
DarkDvr said:
Just wanted to say - I got my Xoom, and yes, I do see some freezes and weird behavior every once in a while.
It doesn't bother me though.
We're all early adopters helping to push Honeycomb forward. Since Xoom is the only tablet atm that uses honeycomb, and it's a pure "Google Experience Device", I'm sure we'll have updates from ElGoog soon and often. Plus, this device is a heaven for developmental though and experimentation, so I'm sure we'll see great things from our local genuises at XDA.
So everyone chill and enjoy a rare opportunity to be there when it all starts =)
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I have had mine since the doors opened at Costco here in South Florida and I have not had one freeze or force close. I think people may be loading up apps that are not designed for Honeycomb causing issues. For the most part, I am sticking to Honeycomb apps only with a few exceptions. I am also not loading alternate launchers like ADW. I suspect loading things like this will cause problems.
Yea I couldn't agree more.just be patient.we'll have a flash update coming within two weeks also.I love my Xoom
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keitht said:
I have had mine since the doors opened at Costco here in South Florida and I have not had one freeze or force close. I think people may be loading up apps that are not designed for Honeycomb causing issues. For the most part, I am sticking to Honeycomb apps only with a few exceptions. I am also not loading alternate launchers like ADW. I suspect loading things like this will cause problems.
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+1 mines never froze, fc'd or lagged either. Its a little slow rotating sometimes but its not an issue.
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I read a post yesterday, I can't remember by who, saying that this "Early Adopter" argument is invalid. I believe it was because it would be easy for all tech-companies to take advantage of this and release crappy products that they know consumers will eat up and look past the issues because they know they are "early adopters". As much as I don't like to repeatedly mention Apple, it doesn't seem that they release products riddled with bugs and expect their consumers to shrug it off and say "Oh yea, we're just early adopters, these bugs don't matter!".
Nothing can be perfect obviously, but things can be more perfect than others. Why release something so unfinished when you can release it later in a more complete state? I don't have a Xoom yet, but it seems that Honeycomb was rushed out the door much too quickly. Did Google do this to beat the iPad 2 in the market race? We all know it will still easily sale millions.. they could've waited.
Apple doesn't release products before they are ready? Really? Have you used an iPhone 4 and tried to make a phone call? Did you used an Ipad when it first came out? It had no software for it. Once competition comes and millions of people buy android tablets, the developers will come.
While I agree I would of prefered and more polished Honeycomb, there are ALWAYS growing pains with new technology...especially with brand a new OS. My xoom, like wine, will only get better with age.
Just give it time. It isn't a half assed product....it just needs some software updates. Lets all be happy that soon the mod community is going to do things with it that won't be possible with other devices.
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Yeah. It's not halfassed. Only about 5% assed.
I think the update will work wonders.
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I read a post yesterday, I can't remember by who, saying that this "Early Adopter" argument is invalid. I believe it was because it would be easy for all tech-companies to take advantage of this and release crappy products that they know consumers will eat up and look past the issues because they know they are "early adopters". As much as I don't like to repeatedly mention Apple, it doesn't seem that they release products riddled with bugs and expect their consumers to shrug it off and say "Oh yea, we're just early adopters, these bugs don't matter!".
Nothing can be perfect obviously, but things can be more perfect than others. Why release something so unfinished when you can release it later in a more complete state? I don't have a Xoom yet, but it seems that Honeycomb was rushed out the door much too quickly. Did Google do this to beat the iPad 2 in the market race? We all know it will still easily sale millions.. they could've waited.
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I just wonder how you can give a valid opinion about something you don't own. It would be like me giving an opinion on a ferrari italia.
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I read a post yesterday, I can't remember by who, saying that this "Early Adopter" argument is invalid. I believe it was because it would be easy for all tech-companies to take advantage of this and release crappy products that they know consumers will eat up and look past the issues because they know they are "early adopters". As much as I don't like to repeatedly mention Apple, it doesn't seem that they release products riddled with bugs and expect their consumers to shrug it off and say "Oh yea, we're just early adopters, these bugs don't matter!".
Nothing can be perfect obviously, but things can be more perfect than others. Why release something so unfinished when you can release it later in a more complete state? I don't have a Xoom yet, but it seems that Honeycomb was rushed out the door much too quickly. Did Google do this to beat the iPad 2 in the market race? We all know it will still easily sale millions.. they could've waited.
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i am using my bt keyboard on the xoom. honeycomb is quite e finished product in terms of its normal use. ive not had one freeze or rrreboot. i had one force close becasue i tried to run a rdp/vnc app. it force closed and i move to next app which did work for controlling my pc. you have people on here either talking without owning the product or loading things not designed or updated for this hardware OR software. such as flashlight apps, launchers, etc. ive used all the apps designed for tablets in the market and ive had no issues. ive played the couple of free games (which performed quite well) and used things as simple as the weather app. smooth sailing. i WOULD like to see more apps (like dish networks sling app) but thats not moto or googles fault.
the bugs ive read about in most topics dont happen to me. im gonna be testing the 720 rip playback later as i havent moved much media to mine yet.
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I have had mine since the doors opened at Costco here in South Florida and I have not had one freeze or force close. I think people may be loading up apps that are not designed for Honeycomb causing issues. For the most part, I am sticking to Honeycomb apps only with a few exceptions. I am also not loading alternate launchers like ADW. I suspect loading things like this will cause problems.
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Hey, I was first in line at my South Fla Costco...lol. You must have gone to Flagler.
I've had a few FC's but I'll admit they were mainly on the first day. Since then I've been good.
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Apple doesn't release products before they are ready? Really? Have you used an iPhone 4 and tried to make a phone call? Did you used an Ipad when it first came out? It had no software for it. Once competition comes and millions of people buy android tablets, the developers will come.
While I agree I would of prefered and more polished Honeycomb, there are ALWAYS growing pains with new technology...especially with brand a new OS. My xoom, like wine, will only get better with age.
Just give it time. It isn't a half assed product....it just needs some software updates. Lets all be happy that soon the mod community is going to do things with it that won't be possible with other devices.
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The iPhone4 was a design decision. Had they waited 3 more months it still would have had that same problem.
The iPad had over a thousand third party apps at launch, what are you talking about?
And Android isn't going to compete in the tablet world by releasing beta tablets with buggy software. A normal user would have returned the Xoom after seeing 7 apps at launch, no flash at launch, non functional SD card slot, buggy OS and apps force closing. If normal users see this as their first impression of a Google tablet, that will stick with them for a while. The "early adopter" nonsense is absolutely the worst argument that anyone could make.
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Hey, I was first in line at my South Fla Costco...lol. You must have gone to Flagler.
I've had a few FC's but I'll admit they were mainly on the first day. Since then I've been good.
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I went to Pompano Beach Costco. The Verizon guy there gave me trouble with the activation thing. I had to keep pushing him to call more people. Each person he called at Verizon didn't know about the change that activation is not required. Hopefully I helped anyone that came after me
I had two freezes while playing cordy. There was an update for it yesterday that seems to have fixed it. Other than that I have not had any stability issues, just some minor graphical issues.
As far as Apple stability goes am I the only one old enough to remember the axiom "never buy a first Gen apple product."? Apple is somewhat notorious for problems with first Gen products.
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The iPhone4 was a design decision. Had they waited 3 more months it still would have had that same problem.
The iPad had over a thousand third party apps at launch, what are you talking about?
And Android isn't going to compete in the tablet world by releasing beta tablets with buggy software. A normal user would have returned the Xoom after seeing 7 apps at launch, no flash at launch, non functional SD card slot, buggy OS and apps force closing. If normal users see this as their first impression of a Google tablet, that will stick with them for a while. The "early adopter" nonsense is absolutely the worst argument that anyone could make.
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I'm glad you knew this, I was starting to think I had no argument.
JanetPanic said:
I had two freezes while playing cordy. There was an update for it yesterday that seems to have fixed it. Other than that I have not had any stability issues, just some minor graphical issues.
As far as Apple stability goes am I the only one old enough to remember the axiom "never buy a first Gen apple product."? Apple is somewhat notorious for problems with first Gen products.
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I think you can say the same with most companies that release version 1 products.
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I read a post yesterday, I can't remember by who, saying that this "Early Adopter" argument is invalid. I believe it was because it would be easy for all tech-companies to take advantage of this and release crappy products that they know consumers will eat up and look past the issues because they know they are "early adopters". As much as I don't like to repeatedly mention Apple, it doesn't seem that they release products riddled with bugs and expect their consumers to shrug it off and say "Oh yea, we're just early adopters, these bugs don't matter!".
Nothing can be perfect obviously, but things can be more perfect than others. Why release something so unfinished when you can release it later in a more complete state? I don't have a Xoom yet, but it seems that Honeycomb was rushed out the door much too quickly. Did Google do this to beat the iPad 2 in the market race? We all know it will still easily sale millions.. they could've waited.
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Obviously they could have waited, its about supply and demand. The demand was there, so they got it out as fast as they could in working order. It has its problems, software problems, I love it it and didnt want to wait a day longer. They know what they're doing, google isn't Microsoft lol. It works, we want it, were willing to sacrifice a little functionality to be able to have it now, we love it , if you don't like the problems then thats your problem dont cry about i, either don't get one or wait to get one, everyone who bought it knew for the most part what types of problems we might come across, nobody is making you buy it nor keep it! You have no right to speculate on why they should or should not have released it like this, only the right to not buy or use it
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Obviously they could have waited, its about supply and demand. The demand was there, so they got it out as fast as they could in working order. It has its problems, software problems, I love it it and didnt want to wait a day longer. They know what they're doing, google isn't Microsoft lol. It works, we want it, were willing to sacrifice a little functionality to be able to have it now, we love it , if you don't like the problems then thats your problem dont cry about i, either don't get one or wait to get one, everyone who bought it knew for the most part what types of problems we might come across, nobody is making you buy it nor keep it! You have no right to speculate on why they should or should not have released it like this, only the right to not buy or use it
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sorry but a user has every right to gripe about the limitations of the product they purchased.
Google has a history of releasing buggy products, and improving them over time. its just how they do it. (a la google tv, nexus one launch, etc) does that make them a bad company? no. but to a mainstream (non techie) user who uses the product as is, the xoom out of the box is somewhat of a disappointment because of some basic feature limitations at launch. (no software sd support, no flash support, lack of proper video encoding support, which is a surprise as Google is normally great with cross compatibility). I personally feel that the Xoom launch was rushed in order to get as many early adopter sales before the iPad2 hits. I'm verrry sure that had the xoom been released the same time as iPad2 launch date, xoom sales numbers would be much lower.
i was an avid iPad user (gave it away), and currently awaiting for the xoom to arrive in the mail. i'm looking forward to using it.
What you are totally missing is the fact that the majority of apps look and work just fine. None of this "2x" bull crap that apple did with there tablet launch. I ask, did you purchase an Ipad when it first came out? Do you own a Xoom? If no to one or both counts, you lose some credibility with your argument.
No one is giving Motorola or Google a pass, but there is some kind of understanding with new gear. That is not an excuse, but something to take into account. I personally love xoom, both for what is and what it can and will be. You want a completely bug free and flawless piece of equipment, make it yourself. If you have ever ran your own company, you would know that every prouduct and system goes through some level of growing pains.
Too many people think the xoom is supposed to magically outsell the I pad...which will never happen. Apple, if nothing else has done an AMAZING job at marketing and creating demand for their sometimes sub par, at least technologcally, products. That being said, android is picking up steam and offering a solid competition to the ios system. Does it still have a ways to go...sure. But it is heading that way and things are only going to get better from here.
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sorry but a user has every right to gripe about the limitations of the product they purchased.
Google has a history of releasing buggy products, and improving them over time. its just how they do it. (a la google tv, nexus one launch, etc) does that make them a bad company? no. but to a mainstream (non techie) user who uses the product as is, the xoom out of the box is somewhat of a disappointment because of some basic feature limitations at launch. (no software sd support, no flash support, lack of proper video encoding support, which is a surprise as Google is normally great with cross compatibility). I personally feel that the Xoom launch was rushed in order to get as many early adopter sales before the iPad2 hits. I'm verrry sure that had the xoom been released the same time as iPad2 launch date, xoom sales numbers would be much lower.
i was an avid iPad user (gave it away), and currently awaiting for the xoom to arrive in the mail. i'm looking forward to using it.
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You just contradicted yourself, you said
1. They have the right to complain about the product being released too early
2. Google has a history of releasing buggy products
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They have no right to complain, they knew in advance or they don't possess the ability to think
Also, you can just return it.... but no *****ing about the obvious is a better idea
Well, the no software argument is pointless, you'll have to wait here. Phone Android didn't start with that much apps either, same for iPhone, Windows, any OS.
Are there really that many of you out there happy with your Xoom purchase? I am an Android fanatic through and through but I can't even get the most basic built in widgets to launch, I am already 3 minutes deep into typing this because buttons on the keyboard randomly stop registering at all. I have no idea what Honeycomb is even like as everything I try to open FC's before it even launches. I am literally in awe of how big of a piece of **** this thing is. Less than 24 hours and this thing is going back to best buy. **** my galaxy tab ran froyo flawless and I am now really bummed I sold it to get this worthless pos. I hate apple with every inch of my being but I know the ipad will function exactly how it is supposed to our of the box instead of this less than half baked **** I am attempting to use now.
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I've had my Xoom since Wednesday and I'm 100% happy. I have experienced only a few FC's. The only widget I have found that doesn't work is Facebook. The only time I have experienced keyboard lag is in the browser.
Have you tried a factory reset? Maybe that will clear things up?
Do yourself a favor and return it for another one because something is wrong with the one you got. The xoom is my first android device and i'm amazed. Everything runs great. The odd time it will take a few minutes for my CNN and accuweather widget to load. Get another so you can give it a real chance. That's all I'm try'n to say
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Has anyone got the facebook widget to work? Most the people I told about widget problems said the same thing as you. Only the FB doesn't work. Weird no one seems to have a problem with that either on a $800 device.
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I love android but my xoom is going back to costco..its just not living up to the hype
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I am extremely happy with mine as well, just can't wait for all the mods to start rolling!
100% love my xoom. So much better than my galaxy tab.
I have a galaxy tab and I feel that the xoom screen is a downgrade when compared to my tab. It's a deal breaker.
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I love mine. Only reason I hate it is because it has taken over my life. On the facebook widge thing. Really? You expect an app widget foe a phone to run one day one. And that is really the only one I have had problems with. The update will come. Do us all a favor return your xoom.
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It's amazing to me that people knowingly assume the role of early adoptor, and don't expect issues. It's part of the process. You can gather from these boards what the general experience is: a pleasant work in progress that needs some apps and a little polish. If your experience is wildly different, it's either a faulty Xoom or you shouldn't buy the flagship device for a very new OS. You also might not know how to get the most out of this thing.
Nobody makes an issue out of the Facebook widget because.... it's a Facebook widget. If you that falls into "things you can't live without it until 3.01", then take the Xoom back.
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Has anyone got the facebook widget to work? Most the people I told about widget problems said the same thing as you. Only the FB doesn't work. Weird no one seems to have a problem with that either on a $800 device.
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the price of the device has nothing to do with whether a third party widget designed for a phone should work or not. if this is your only problem, i'd say the xoom's a winner.
To the OP, my biggest problems are FC's of the browser. It used to crash every 5 minutes. I rebooted, and for me, that solved the problem. knock on wood, but no FC of the browser in a day.
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Are there really that many of you out there happy with your Xoom purchase? I am an Android fanatic through and through but I can't even get the most basic built in widgets to launch, I am already 3 minutes deep into typing this because buttons on the keyboard randomly stop registering at all. I have no idea what Honeycomb is even like as everything I try to open FC's before it even launches. I am literally in awe of how big of a piece of **** this thing is. Less than 24 hours and this thing is going back to best buy. **** my galaxy tab ran froyo flawless and I am now really bummed I sold it to get this worthless pos. I hate apple with every inch of my being but I know the ipad will function exactly how it is supposed to our of the box instead of this less than half baked **** I am attempting to use now.
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I have to say...I'm surprised at how much I like my xoom. I think you just got a bad model perhaps.
theahlenius said:
It's amazing to me that people knowingly assume the role of early adoptor, and don't expect issues. It's part of the process. You can gather from these boards what the general experience is: a pleasant work in progress that needs some apps and a little polish. If your experience is wildly different, it's either a faulty Xoom or you shouldn't buy the flagship device for a very new OS. You also might not know how to get the most out of this thing.
Nobody makes an issue out of the Facebook widget because.... it's a Facebook widget. If you that falls into "things you can't live without it until 3.01", then take the Xoom back.
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I think some people expect way to much. Everyone on this forum should know the meaning of "early adopter" (**** look at the nexus on and still that is the best phone I have ever owned). Not just that but all I hear is a bunch of *****ing and moaning over the Xoom. It either costs too much or some other whining. I love it and I can't put it down and compared to the hundreds if reviews I read I figured that hneycomb was horrible but it is actually running pretty well on mine. I mean I get the occasional force close but god its a .0 release and its the first of its class. If a widget doesn't work blame Facebook (or any other 3rd party developer) if anyone thinks the samsung 10.1 will be better theyre in for a rude awakening.
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Are there really that many of you out there happy with your Xoom purchase? I am an Android fanatic through and through but I can't even get the most basic built in widgets to launch, I am already 3 minutes deep into typing this because buttons on the keyboard randomly stop registering at all. I have no idea what Honeycomb is even like as everything I try to open FC's before it even launches. I am literally in awe of how big of a piece of **** this thing is. Less than 24 hours and this thing is going back to best buy. **** my galaxy tab ran froyo flawless and I am now really bummed I sold it to get this worthless pos. I hate apple with every inch of my being but I know the ipad will function exactly how it is supposed to our of the box instead of this less than half baked **** I am attempting to use now.
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I have heard that the Xoom works better with a restart after the intitial one. Don't have mine yet to test, but you could always try.
fauxreal said:
Are there really that many of you out there happy with your Xoom purchase? I am an Android fanatic through and through but I can't even get the most basic built in widgets to launch, I am already 3 minutes deep into typing this because buttons on the keyboard randomly stop registering at all. I have no idea what Honeycomb is even like as everything I try to open FC's before it even launches. I am literally in awe of how big of a piece of **** this thing is. Less than 24 hours and this thing is going back to best buy. **** my galaxy tab ran froyo flawless and I am now really bummed I sold it to get this worthless pos. I hate apple with every inch of my being but I know the ipad will function exactly how it is supposed to our of the box instead of this less than half baked **** I am attempting to use now.
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I addressed you in another thread but would like to use this thread since you started it to gather data. Would you kindly provide a list of the apps/widgets that FC when you try to use them? I would like to install one or two here and see if the same results happen. The next step of that process is to contact those developers and ask them if they would be willing to update their software to support the 3.0 Framework.
Agreed, I love my Xoom. It does everything I need it to do and then some. I travel frequently and just the fact that I no longer have to use my laptop while sitting in airports or coffee shops justifies my purchase. I think many people came in with expectations that were waaay too high for this class of device. Excellent battery life, email and web browsing on the go plus all of my ebooks in one place for easy access are all that I asked for. Video could be better but not as bad as ppl are making it out to be. Could Gingerbread and the Xoom both be better? Absolutely, but neither is bad by any stretch of the imagination. I think alot of people were expecting netbook power and functionality in tablet form, but you certainly don't get that with any of the other competing tablets out there so why hold the Xoom to such a high standard? I'll be keeping mine until the quad core processors are out and we see a major jump in screen resolution, but for now, I'm completely satisfied with my purchase. I think the Xoom is amazing considering it has the processing power of full size laptops out only a few short years ago...
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I think some people expect way to much. Everyone on this forum should know the meaning of "early adopter" (**** look at the nexus on and still that is the best phone I have ever owned). Not just that but all I hear is a bunch of *****ing and moaning over the Xoom. It either costs too much or some other whining. I love it and I can't put it down and compared to the hundreds if reviews I read I figured that hneycomb was horrible but it is actually running pretty well on mine. I mean I get the occasional force close but god its a .0 release and its the first of its class. If a widget doesn't work blame Facebook (or any other 3rd party developer) if anyone thinks the samsung 10.1 will be better theyre in for a rude awakening.
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well put sir
@theahlenius I was waiting for someone to say something along these lines. It is fair to say that for the average consumer this device is not fully ready to be put out. The norm is to only put a device on the market after it is fully ready to be released, welcome to the world of beta (the device is further than beta but still just like beta there can be quirks with a new os and lack of app support.) But I do have a few things that I want to say, 1) it was known that there was going to be things not working, ie the sdcard, flash, and that 4g was upgradeable( the lte network is still new they are still running tests on the thing with real world traffic use, give it time. you realize the crap that could go wrong releaseing a device like this on to a new network without testing its capabilities first *shivers*). Then there are people complaining about apps not working, ITS A NEW OS, The sdk that enables dev's to optimize their apps for tablets hasn't been out that long. Again it takes time, and the dev's haven't had time to make changes and fix any issues. I as well am getting the issue with the facebook app, thats about the only one, its expected though as it was built on 2.2 sdk and not 3.0 or 2.3.3. Guys really if you dont expect issues being a early release adopter return your Xoom and go get a controlled experience where Apple will hold your hand iPad.
I love my Xoom & I take it with me everywhere so I can show it off too & people are in awe of it...I know no tablet that can compare to it.too my dell streak 7 back & got this & so glad I did.This thing just works with no lags!! My ipod collects a lot of dust too now.
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the xoom isn't perfect but yes we are early adopters. just like the nexus one and now the nexus s when they first came out, there are sure to be problems.
be patient, keep up to date on these forums, and the fixes and patches should roll out via google/moto or here on xda.
aside from all the problems that my xoom is having (random force closes, lag here and there), i'm enjoying this device. just rooted it and not sure if i want to take the plunge in to overclocking. don't feel as safe in doing it vs. my nexus s and dell streak since i dished out a crapload of money on it lol.
So after about a week or so with my Xoom, I am happy, unlike the fools that don't understand early adopting.
Anyway. Today I ran across two glitches that I would like to know if anyone else has encountered. First I put about three or four 720p videos on my xoom and it stopped audio from playing out of my xoom. In videos that were previously on it and the music app didn't work either. Second, I went to take a picture and the picture I snapped stayed in the viewfinder, didn't save, when I closed the camera app and tried to reaccess it I was stopped with a prompt stating "camera could not be found". A simple power off power on technique fixed both issues. But that was twice today I needed to do that after an almost flawless week.
Has anyone expiren ced either of these glitches or any others you'd like to mention?
If you start out calling people fools then you deserve to wallow in your glitches.
Have fun.
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If you start out calling people fools then you deserve to wallow in your glitches.
Have fun.
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Anyone that spends 800 dollars on a device then pops online and complains about the stupidest things that are to be expected is a fool. This forum is filled with people *****ing because their fb widget doesn't work or their favorite app from froyo isn't running properly. Anyone that wastes up space like that on this forum is a fool. Don't spend that much money on something and come here to ***** about things that should be expected.
And you good sir are a fool. Don't comment on this thread if you having nothing of use to say.
I pre ordered it and think its junk. I returned it and lost no money in the transaction. How is that foolish? Whats foolish is $800 for something that a cheaper tablets can do just as well.
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I pre ordered it and think its junk. I returned it and lost no money in the transaction. How is that foolish? Whats foolish is $800 for something that a cheaper tablets can do just as well.
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Maybe I should fix this cause it was really meant to be harmless. I started this thread after reading a post about someone calling the xoom junk because he/she could not run a few apps he had on his phone on his Xoom. And this was the reason for his return.
Now like I said in that post, I can understad why people would be dissapointed with the Xoom. It shipped with aa **** stock player when it is supposedly suppose to be a media powerhouse, just to mention one of the few things wrong.
However if you purchased a Xoom this early into the game, and expect it to be able to run all your apps from Froyo, you are a damn fool.
It was not a burn to people that decided to take theirs back, just to those that don't understsnd what early adopting is, and for all intensive purpses come here to complain about it.
No one cares that your fb widget doesn't work, and if that is your sole purpose for returning this device you are an idiot for having bought it.
RadDudeTommy said:
So after about a week or so with my Xoom, I am happy, unlike the fools that don't understand early adopting.
Anyway. Today I ran across two glitches that I would like to know if anyone else has encountered. First I put about three or four 720p videos on my xoom and it stopped audio from playing out of my xoom. In videos that were previously on it and the music app didn't work either. Second, I went to take a picture and the picture I snapped stayed in the viewfinder, didn't save, when I closed the camera app and tried to reaccess it I was stopped with a prompt stating "camera could not be found". A simple power off power on technique fixed both issues. But that was twice today I needed to do that after an almost flawless week.
Has anyone expiren ced either of these glitches or any others you'd like to mention?
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I haven't experienced either one. Are you rooted or anything fancy? And what are you using to convert/play your video files?
falconeight said:
I pre ordered it and think its junk. I returned it and lost no money in the transaction. How is that foolish? Whats foolish is $800 for something that a cheaper tablets can do just as well.
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The Xoom being junk, and the Xoom not being for you is two different things. The OP's frustration with a certain breed of early adopters is completely justified.
You are a click away from the information that would've saved you time and effort. Instead you chose to buy a brand new product with brand new software, and ***** because it's not seasoned, and because you can't understand what it's capable of.
i haven't rooted yet due to the concerns of not being able to get the upgrade. But I believe its now confirmed that the upgrade will still go to those that have rooted.
I have a video converter I used, but what caused me problems was a youtube streaming saver. I've been using it to convert music videos posted by vevo into 720p. That was the only time it glitched.
The videos all play fine after the reboot.
I also encountered problems trying to transfer 1080p files to my Xoom. For some reason my windows 7 computer stops the transfer well after it starts and is seemingly going fine.
I'm not sure if 1080p is even worth it considering the file size and that 720 looks beautiful but any advice would be gratefully taken.
I did happen to get a 1080 on my Xoom, however it did not play on the stock video player and actually stopped my other videos from playing till I had a chance to take it off.
Again I am sorry for anyone that took offense to my fool comment, unless you are on of the few fools on this forum that just wants to complain your apps aren't working.
I can't imagine all the returns that they are going to have to process for people that don't fully understand what they are buying.
RadDudeTommy said:
Anyone that spends 800 dollars on a device then pops online and complains about the stupidest things that are to be expected is a fool. This forum is filled with people *****ing because their fb widget doesn't work or their favorite app from froyo isn't running properly. Anyone that wastes up space like that on this forum is a fool. Don't spend that much money on something and come here to ***** about things that should be expected.
And you good sir are a fool. Don't comment on this thread if you having nothing of use to say.
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That makes no effing sense. Could you imagine if Apple sold a new Mac Pro and then when people complained that it was glitchy and things werent working that obviously should, their response being "You shouldn't have spent so much money on our device. Don't you know that you are an early adopter? Stop complaining on our forums about your problems." For the premium price Motorola was charging, the tablet should have had next to no bugs.
LOL.
I understand being frustrated by the half of the frontpage of the general section that is people complaining about their Xoom, but realize that the entire "early adopter" excuse is nonsense. Android will never make a dent in the tablet market if every tablet has to be allowed to go through an "early adopter" phase where it is riddled with bugs. No Apple product goes through an "early adopter" phase. Some of their products have flaws, but out of the box you do not see nearly the same amount of issues. For the premium Motorola demanded for their tablet, there should have been much more quality control testing of not only the hardware but also of Honeycomb. I can easily understand why people are pissed when they spend $850+ dollars on a device and they get home and their browser is crashing on them and their widgets arent working, etc, etc, etc.
muyoso said:
That makes no effing sense. Could you imagine if Apple sold a new Mac Pro and then when people complained that it was glitchy and things werent working that obviously should, their response being "You shouldn't have spent so much money on our device. Don't you know that you are an early adopter? Stop complaining on our forums about your problems." For the premium price Motorola was charging, the tablet should have had next to no bugs.
LOL.
I understand being frustrated by the half of the frontpage of the general section that is people complaining about their Xoom, but realize that the entire "early adopter" excuse is nonsense. Android will never make a dent in the tablet market if every tablet has to be allowed to go through an "early adopter" phase where it is riddled with bugs. No Apple product goes through an "early adopter" phase. Some of their products have flaws, but out of the box you do not see nearly the same amount of issues. For the premium Motorola demanded for their tablet, there should have been much more quality control testing of not only the hardware but also of Honeycomb. I can easily understand why people are pissed when they spend $850+ dollars on a device and they get home and their browser is crashing on them and their widgets arent working, etc, etc, etc.
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I believe anybody who knows anything about android should have expected some issues with apps running on a new version os. If you bought a xoom within the first week of its launch you should expect some bugs to be found. Comparing this to apple products isn't really fair because this is a new platform. This is probably why apple hasn't released a tablet os just because of all the testing that would need to be done. Which im sure they are currently working on. It will just have to be perfect before we see any sign of it. Google on the other hand works entirely differently. Take a look at the first android release on the G1. That system was far from perfect but it was released anyways for people to get their hands on it. It allowed them to start working with it and see what was needed. I understand what your saying but this is nothing new. This is how android has always been. Thays why they release new versions every few months. To fix the code that was wrong in the last and add some new features.
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muyoso said:
That makes no effing sense. Could you imagine if Apple sold a new Mac Pro and then when people complained that it was glitchy and things werent working that obviously should, their response being "You shouldn't have spent so much money on our device. Don't you know that you are an early adopter? Stop complaining on our forums about your problems." For the premium price Motorola was charging, the tablet should have had next to no bugs.
LOL.
I understand being frustrated by the half of the frontpage of the general section that is people complaining about their Xoom, but realize that the entire "early adopter" excuse is nonsense. Android will never make a dent in the tablet market if every tablet has to be allowed to go through an "early adopter" phase where it is riddled with bugs. No Apple product goes through an "early adopter" phase. Some of their products have flaws, but out of the box you do not see nearly the same amount of issues. For the premium Motorola demanded for their tablet, there should have been much more quality control testing of not only the hardware but also of Honeycomb. I can easily understand why people are pissed when they spend $850+ dollars on a device and they get home and their browser is crashing on them and their widgets arent working, etc, etc, etc.
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I stopped reading after your every tablet going thru early adopter phase. You obviously don't know what your talking about. We are early adopted to honeycomb, not so much the Xoom you bafoon. The xoom works fine, the os is what has minor glitches.
muyoso said:
That makes no effing sense. Could you imagine if Apple sold a new Mac Pro and then when people complained that it was glitchy and things werent working that obviously should, their response being "You shouldn't have spent so much money on our device. Don't you know that you are an early adopter? Stop complaining on our forums about your problems." For the premium price Motorola was charging, the tablet should have had next to no bugs.
LOL.
I understand being frustrated by the half of the frontpage of the general section that is people complaining about their Xoom, but realize that the entire "early adopter" excuse is nonsense. Android will never make a dent in the tablet market if every tablet has to be allowed to go through an "early adopter" phase where it is riddled with bugs. No Apple product goes through an "early adopter" phase. Some of their products have flaws, but out of the box you do not see nearly the same amount of issues. For the premium Motorola demanded for their tablet, there should have been much more quality control testing of not only the hardware but also of Honeycomb. I can easily understand why people are pissed when they spend $850+ dollars on a device and they get home and their browser is crashing on them and their widgets arent working, etc, etc, etc.
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The first iPhone had some huge holes in its capabilities. Some would call the lack of flash early on when html5 was nowhere in sight a huge problem. Couldn't send picture messages, pretty sure you couldn't even type in landscape. You just have a short term memory.
We're not asking for it to happen with every tablet. The is the first tablet running 3.0. Where were you when Windows 7 was released? A fantastic OS that was only sort of compatible with things that could run on Vista. Software needed some time to adapt. That's literally all that's happening here.
Welcome to android...
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Didnt Iphone4 have a huge problem with losing signal?
RadDudeTommy said:
Maybe I should fix this cause it was really meant to be harmless. I started this thread after reading a post about someone calling the xoom junk because he/she could not run a few apps he had on his phone on his Xoom. And this was the reason for his return.
Now like I said in that post, I can understad why people would be dissapointed with the Xoom. It shipped with aa **** stock player when it is supposedly suppose to be a media powerhouse, just to mention one of the few things wrong.
However if you purchased a Xoom this early into the game, and expect it to be able to run all your apps from Froyo, you are a damn fool.
It was not a burn to people that decided to take theirs back, just to those that don't understsnd what early adopting is, and for all intensive purpses come here to complain about it.
No one cares that your fb widget doesn't work, and if that is your sole purpose for returning this device you are an idiot for having bought it.
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"for all intensive purposes"???? You mean all intents and purposes....although it is still out of context. And you start your post by calling others fools....pot calling kettle black, innit?
HorsexD said:
Didnt Iphone4 have a huge problem with losing signal?
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Severely blown out of proportion. Don't bring this into this thread lol this is about Xoom glitches...
Hi. Just wanted to start a thread to counter all those complaint threads about not having everything we want from the xoom. It seems that about half of the Xoom threads on this site degrade after a page or two of posts into complaints about how either motorola or google is failing their customers. I for one am pretty happy with my xoom. I understood when I got it that this is an early adopter situation, and that the kinks are being worked out. I don't mind not having 4g yet; most cities don't have it either and, really, I can't think of anything that I need it for (that 3g isn't sufficiently quick enough to handle). I don't mind not having an SD card since I really don't want to spend the money on one that will significantly increase the 32g that's already in my xoom. I don't mind that motorola missed their deadline; kind of hoping they'll put together some package to thank users, like a free peripheral or some kind of upgrade discount to the xoom 2. I like my xoom, even though I still use my laptop more. I don't think the 3.1 update was that great, so I'm not sure I get all the non-US users freaking out about not having it. I just think we need to calm down, take a deep breath, and enjoy this new tablet experience. This tech stuff moves pretty quick; but our collective ADD is going a bit crazy with expecting a seven-month-old tech to be everything we want and more; getting angry that there's new things out that cost less (really? suprised that the first one cost more? come on now...); flipping out over not having perfected hardware.
If you agree that the Xoom is a great piece of tech, comment below. Please don't comment if all you want to do is complain about motorola or google. There's plenty of other threads for complaining.
Me too!
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I completely agree. There is always a cost for being an early adopter and there will always be something newer, cheaper, etc. on the horizon. I am very happy with my Xoom and am using it more and more each day. I hardly ever turn my laptop on at home anymore.
You post on xda and still don't have a working SD card reader?
well, his nickname suggests he's a slacker. lol. just joking.
but slack, I'm glad you loved your xoom. as do I. but I recommend rooting so that you can at least work around some of the issues.
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Agreed. There is nothing my xoom can't do that I expected it too when I shelled out for it.
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Sure the Xoom has its shortcomings, but doesn't almost every device?
The fact that it's a Google Experience device keeps it at the head of the pack for me, honestly. I just wish we had more correspondence from Motorola updating about the LTE and microSD card updates.
Then again, now with Google Music and Plex, I really don't need that much local storage, so the microSD card affects me less today than it did before Google Music.
I have since sold my MacBook and use my tablet for browsing on the couch or bed. Sure, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 looks great, but it has Touch Wiz, and it came out 4-5 months later.
Thanks for this thread. It's nice to read positive comments with all of the complaining going on. I've been happily surprised by the Xoom...the build quality and hardware potential, the OS and the smoothness of use, the the apps, the wonderful kernels and roms from our developers, all have contributed to a great experience. I do wish that some of the apps that were available for the Xoom before would be available again. The Xoom has replaced my laptop and I use it all the time.
the only things i really want are a bluetooth + keyboard compatability fix, and netflix.
I am quite content with my xoom as well. I agree with pekosROB that Motorola could communicate with their customers better but that is my main criticism. (In reality I can't think of any android manufacturer who communicates with their customers as clearly as I would like. Ah well)
Cheers
Well lets see, 3.1 adds support for a bluetooth mouse and USB host capability. Those two things alone make the update nessescary. Theres rumours of 3.2 coming out within the next few days and the rest of the world doesnt even have 3.1. Since your in the states you have the 3.1 update and soon to have 3.2 so you don't really see the point of everyones argument that doesn't have the update, all we get is a *soon*
I love my Xoom as well and yes I knew what I was buying, the problem I have with Motorola and as many many others have is they announced an update to 3.1 soon , In Canada that was over 2 months ago, then rumors of Xoom 2 start, then 3.2 is mentioned it could be here within days and the world outside the USA doe not even have 3.1 yet, then the 3.1 roll out starts but very slow and it starts in Asia, so yes many people ticked at Motorola, and yes I still love my Xoom, even though it cant do yet what it was promised it would or could do.
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Hi. Just wanted to start a thread to counter all those complaint threads about not having everything we want from the xoom.
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Hail Motorola! You can do no wrong. And even if you do wrong, I'll make believe that it's greatest thing since the invention of breast implants.
By the way, I like my Xoom, I just will never by another Motorola product again, because Motorola's support of their work-in-progress Xoom has been incompetent bordering on negligent.
After releasing their incomplete Xoom 4 and a half months ago, to beat the iPad 2 to market, completing the Xoom should have been Motorola's first support priority.
To me, lack of actions speak louder than excuses.
It's over 4 months now, and all we have to show for our wait is nothing, nada, zilch!
And that's also describes the future relationship between me and Motorola....nothing, nada, zilch!
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I'm also happy with my Xoom 3G.
I am pretty happy with the Xoom as well. I rooted mine minutes after buying and haven't looked back. I have SDCard support and can't recall ever really using it outside of flashing ROMS. I don't see what the big deal is about a SDCard when you have Google Music, Dropbox and Plex. 32GB of storage is more than enough for books, magazines, apps and games. I think when Moto does release the SDcard update, people will realize on a tablet with 32gb of storage, SDcards aren't really needed.
My only gripe is that Google and Moto have not done enough to get app developers on board with Honeycomb. Google has a great platform to build on. We need a bigger selection of Honeycomb apps. I don't think simply dropping the SDK and saying "Here you go guys", in a keynote is going to bring on the Android adoption. Google may want to start adding some financial incentive to some of the really talented iOS devs. Hardware alone won't sell these tablets. Great apps are what draw people from one device to the next.
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I'm very happy with mine. It does everything I need it to do. It has offloaded a great deal of work from my work laptop. I now do personal travel only with my Xoom rather than carrying the laptop and all those peripherals.
I will be happier when I can use my SD cards. I will be happier when we go to 4G. However, I am not going to dis the Xoom or Motorola for my buying a product that many of you consider defective. I did my research and knew what I was getting.
I love my Xoom, nothing is wrong with it. However, Motorola really needs to get in gear. I understand early adopting, but promises shouldn't be broken, whether 4g lte is a necissary upgrade or not, after the 90 day promise we should have been greater not only with a reason for the failure, but also an expected timeframe. We are just left to sit and wonder. Its not even like i feel like sending my xoom in for a business week, but its something they used to advertise the tablet with, which means it should have just happened when it was suppose too. I dont know if it didnt because of 4g radio shortages or because motorola decided to put the time and effort into more money making products, and thats the problem i have, i dont know why i didnt get it. And about the SD card, I think we all know that won't be fixed till icecream sandwich, so whatever.
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agree too. but for me 3.1 was a big improvement.. atleast for speed n browser... no more fc
Me tooo...of all the android tabs out there as far as build quality goes xoom is on par with apple thing is bulletproof. Also that fact that moto hasnt released 100 different verisons of its tablet says a lot about the company Xoom is there main tablet focus until the new stuff comes out. Not like the other that have a 10 7 9 5 inch tablet. I think some folks complain to complain. No device is perfect but xoom is pretty damn close. Only thing missing are a few more local case choices.
my xoom has replaced my laptop for most everything, besides the most power hungry tasks. While I'm in Canada and still don't have an official 3.1 update, lets be honest here..... who hasn't impatienty waited for official android updates in the past? Waited for close to a year for my hero to be upgraded, my liquid e was 8 months, oh and my galaxy s? That took forever too. I think all we can do is thank our lucky stars that sites like xda exist, and that such talented devs work so hard to bring us all the roms and upgrades we need before even the manufacturers can
Personally I couldnt give a rats ass about this update lol all ure gonna get is a few minor graphical changes and performance tweaks. All I want is for the playstation suite stores to open finally in my area.
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psxpetey said:
Personally I couldnt give a rats ass about this update lol all ure gonna get is a few minor graphical changes and performance tweaks. All I want is for the playstation suite stores to open finally in my area.
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I like the part where you clearly have no idea what you're on about.
Call me crazy, but I can't get that worked up about an OS.
The Xperia Play remains the device I've always dreamed of carrying with me, ever since I first saw the PSP and wished it could fit in a pocket and make calls and texts. If you'd have told me that device would one day stop getting official OS updates, I would hardly have been shocked or put off it. If you'd have told me the manufacturer released its latest beta freely and remained supportive of unofficial development (I know part of the thanks to that is Android), I'd have been impressed.
I have friends with Galaxy Notes and S2s and they see my gamepad, and freaking ZELDA on N64oid, and their eyes light up. It's a really, really cool device. Not that I hate their phones or anything, but I wouldn't swap. Hell I wouldn't swap for a Galaxy S3 or HTC One X or whatever the latest is currently. Now they may be the dream devices for some people here, but for me it would be as exciting as swapping a PS3 for an ironing board. If I didn't think that buttons are an essential for making games fun, I'd buy an iPhone, seriously. Much as I prefer the open nature of Android, iOS has many more apps.
90% of Play owners out there do not have root or an unlocked bootloader. They are not as technical as posters on XDA, and would not have been expecting game buttons to go wrong. It would have been a support nightmare for Sony to have let those people upgrade if there were going to be issues. For the rest of us, we can flash the beta / whatever dev roms we want. What I mainly liked about the ICS beta was the hardware accelerated browsing. But if Gingerbread ends up being the way to go, then I'll just use Opera for that. Nothing else on a generic gamepad-less ICS phone would really hold a candle to playing console games with buttons whereever I want.
I'm much more pissed off at EA for not making our optimised exclusives, FIFA and Dead Space, available in the UK for people who were too late for that deal, even to buy.
Its a phone im getting sick of tinkering with it....i just wanna play my games, text my *****es and occasionly call my parents and tell them im alive...ics pfft.
UNP69 said:
I like the part where you clearly have no idea what you're on about.
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I find the part where you say that OP has no idea what hes on about to be worthy of a good ol fashioned facepalm.
ICS is pretty much all OP says it is. Graphical and Performance tweaks. Swipe off notifications (pointless as I have a handy little cross on Gingerbread that removes notifications anyway), Swipe task killer (not as amazing as it sounds as I have a better way...close the app properly) and some browser related stuff like hardware accelerated browsing and swipe off tabs (again, just open up tabs and click the little cross in the corner)
Almost everything on ICS is there to save you a whole, get this, few seconds. More often than not you dont end up swiping a particular notification/app/tab off and end up opening it instead.
abstractbeats said:
Call me crazy, but I can't get that worked up about an OS.
I have friends with Galaxy Notes and S2s and they see my gamepad, and freaking ZELDA on N64oid, and their eyes light up.
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On ICS, with N64oid you can use the gamepad touchpads.
(but atm, N64oid with ICS is still laggy ...)
Its true that we dont need it. But like my self i bought the phone since i have in mind buying an ICS but didnt wanted to spend $600 or more in it.
I own an ICS tablet and its the first android that doesnt need tweeks or that i find no use of a custom rom to make it work the way i like.
Do i need ICS on my xperia play?
Yes, please.
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I like the part where you clearly have no idea what you're on about.
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I love the part where you think you do. Do me a favor, how about you buy a different brand of phone so you can realize that Sony is actually just as good, if not better at supporting their devices than HTC, Motorola, Samsung, [insert name here].
Better yet, skip a step and just buy a ****ing iPhone. It will compliment your douchiness nicely.
I dont need it, and I'm getting a Hayabusa when it launches locally.
I have a Xoom with 4.0.4 ICS and I don't see why everyone is making such a big fuss.
However, I would have liked to see Sony push out one more GB update for the play with updated Qualcomm drivers, updated Sony apps and maybe improved Web browser.
Im just saying its really not worth the fuss lol who cares what I want is what I was promised ps suite isnt this supposed to be a sweet ass gaming phone with a tit load of games ? I LOOOVE my emulators and the small library of optimised games and psxperia emu sony sure did **** the bed with this phone it could have been so much more!!! Still it is a TON of fun
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