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[Q] Upgrade/April 1st

Im sorry to start another thread on this subject but i've never seen the message that tells you when you are available for an upgrade and was curious to know if this is the message you get for a yearly upgrade(pic posted)
I bought my Evo Outright last year...But January 8th 2010 i used an upgrade to the HTC Hero..Im going to lose it April 1st arent I?

I wouldn't think so if you are already eligible BUT why not just call Sprint instead of posting here? Seriously.

sdc177 said:
I wouldn't think so if you are already eligible BUT why not just call Sprint instead of posting here? Seriously.
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because i have called Sprint and I told them about this message(picture posted) and they didn't know what the hell I was talking about and said I will lose my upgrade April 1st..I also went to my local sprint store and the manager there said I would be eligable for my upgrade when the Evo3D comes out this summer..So that is why I am here because i've gotten 2 different answers from Sprint Reps.

I would edit that photo to get rid of your phone number. There are alot of pranksters here on XDA.

Yea sprint is doing away with the yearly upgrades unless you are a premium member or whatever it's call. Basically if your not spending a certain amount you lost it

Well that sucks...Will they let me use my fiances upgrade thats due in about 60 days(her actual 2 year upgrade,hasnt gotten a new phone in 2 years) for my number?...And I will just go ahead and use my current upgrade to get her a new phone.Does Sprint let you do that?

Bigjim1488 said:
Yea sprint is doing away with the yearly upgrades unless you are a premium member or whatever it's call. Basically if your not spending a certain amount you lost it
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It's always been like that, the price just went up on qualifications. They're not "doing away" with anything.

My line qualified for an upgrade on 10/10, and I just asked tonight, and they said since I have already earned it, it will remain until I choose to use it. Sounds ideal to me, those that earned the privilege during the terms of the offer should be entitled to keep it, and for everyone else the terms just got stretched out longer.

If you already have the upgrade sitting there it will stay

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If you already have the upgrade sitting there it will stay
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Man,right when I was coming to terms with the fact I was going to lose my upgrade you throw another sway in the other direction...Arrrrg,i dont know whats going to happen.

Look like you WILL lose your upgrade.
I just found this page on Sprint's website.
http://premier.sprint.com/premierupdate/faq.html
Here's the part that confirms you will lose your upgrade.
If the line qualifying for an annual upgrade is 12-21 months from the last upgrade, the upgrade must be used by March, 31, 2011. Otherwise, effective April 1, 2011, the upgrade eligibility on that line will be changed to 22 months.
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BrianBaker said:
Im sorry to start another thread on this subject but i've never seen the message that tells you when you are available for an upgrade and was curious to know if this is the message you get for a yearly upgrade(pic posted)
I bought my Evo Outright last year...But January 8th 2010 i used an upgrade to the HTC Hero..Im going to lose it April 1st arent I?
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you don't lose it, I don't know why everyone is saying that. you just get a $75 subsidy instead of a $150 after one year. no big deal.
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So I text upgrade to 1311 and it says I get the 75 off on 4/1/11 and I get the 150 off in February of next year...but there are also 4 other lines on this plan, I guess I'm gonna be calling sprint because the family is gonna be pissed if their upgrade goes away. Anyone have any advice? I guess I need to remain calm for the **** storm that's brewin
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frontay said:
So I text upgrade to 1311 and it says I get the 75 off on 4/1/11 and I get the 150 off in February of next year...but there are also 4 other lines on this plan, I guess I'm gonna be calling sprint because the family is gonna be pissed if their upgrade goes away. Anyone have any advice? I guess I need to remain calm for the **** storm that's brewin
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you could raise your plan, but that will most likely cost more then the $75 you'd be saving.
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OneStepAhead said:
you don't lose it, I don't know why everyone is saying that. you just get a $75 subsidy instead of a $150 after one year. no big deal.
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This is a bit misleading. Yes, you get the $75 upgrade after 12 months, but this is simply $75 off the full retail price of the phone. When you get the "$150" upgrade, you actually get the same pricing that a new customer does, including rebates. So, this ends up being more like a $300 discount.
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kd0axs said:
This is a bit misleading. Yes, you get the $75 upgrade after 12 months, but this is simply $75 off the full retail price of the phone. When you get the "$150" upgrade, you actually get the same pricing that a new customer does, including rebates. So, this ends up being more like a $300 discount.
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Well that's just gay. Good thing I have an Evo and not a hero. I came from a G1 when I got the evo. I'm sure I can hold out one more year. The upside is the development will be mature in a year..
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Atrix 4G for $29.99

The Atrix 4G is on sale for $29.99 at Best Buy
http://www.droidmatters.com/phones/deal-alert-motorola-atrix-4g-29-99-at-best-buy/

Mother.f***er.
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lol....it is a sale, this happens with everything, people buy it, it goes on sale, more people buy it, rinse repeat until item is discontinued. Sales are nice to have. Maybe more people will buy it, more people will dev for it.

is it possible for att to price match this? i see no point in having paid 250 for this phone when i could ahve got it for 30

It's $29.99 only for new customers.

nomisunrider said:
It's $29.99 only for new customers.
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I am pretty sure that if you go to an AT&T store you can get them to price-match it if you don't tell them that it is for new customers

DITTO DITTO DITTO!!!!!!
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Mother.f***er.
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zizo79 said:
The Atrix 4G is on sale for $29.99 at Best Buy
http://www.droidmatters.com/phones/deal-alert-motorola-atrix-4g-29-99-at-best-buy/
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It's $99 if you upgrade which is still awesome!

lost2030 said:
It's $99 if you upgrade which is still awesome!
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If you are planning on getting it, you should try your local AT&T store and they will look it up on BB's site. they PM it if they don't investigate lol

Just ordered two Now the long wait and refreshing of order status

Why did I spend so much money on this phone again? I remember with my iPhones they retained their value, this is a HUGE degradation in a matter of months? I guess I won't be able to sell this phone when I'm ready to upgrade.

mpalatsi said:
Why did I spend so much money on this phone again? I remember with my iPhones they retained their value, this is a HUGE degradation in a matter of months? I guess I won't be able to sell this phone when I'm ready to upgrade.
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You do realise there's a HUGE difference between an iPhone and... well... any other phone, right? People flock to iPhones like gnats to a sweaty forehead. And not even just the US. Hell, i sold my iPhone 4 that i had since they came out to someone in Russia for $450. That was enough to cover the cost of the iPhone when i originally bought it, PLUS the Atrix. I've only ever seen one person NOT in an AT&T store that had an Atrix. Just about every smartphone you see on the street is some version of the iPhone. And with the 3GS now being $49.... I'd imagine that ratio will be even higher. People don't know how to find a good phone. They know what is crammed down their throat no matter where they turn... and that just happens to be any Apple product, really.
Hell... look on TV. You see at least 5 iPhone commercials for every single Atrix commercial... and they advertise the lapdock more than the phone itself it seems.

mpalatsi said:
Why did I spend so much money on this phone again? I remember with my iPhones they retained their value, this is a HUGE degradation in a matter of months? I guess I won't be able to sell this phone when I'm ready to upgrade.
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It ($29.99) is not a regular price. Its just a one day Easter Day sale at BestBuy. Soon it price will be back to $99.99 like everywhere else

Very jealous....

Are any AT&T stores even open today (Easter?) None of them answer the phone...

nomisunrider said:
Are any AT&T stores even open today (Easter?) None of them answer the phone...
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It doesn't have to be a holiday for them not to answer the phone

Gvndeb60 said:
It doesn't have to be a holiday for them not to answer the phone
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ain't that the truth!
But yea... even if you did go elsewhere and tried to get them to price match, they'd probably see that it's for new customers only. I mean... they usually say that right around the price somewhere.... somewhere that's not easy to miss.

mpalatsi said:
Why did I spend so much money on this phone again? I remember with my iPhones they retained their value, this is a HUGE degradation in a matter of months? I guess I won't be able to sell this phone when I'm ready to upgrade.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Like-New-Motoro...ell_Phones&hash=item3f094ea310#ht_2507wt_1139
Dunno, they still seem to go for a fairly nice sum of money. I'd imagine it would still be rather nice a bit from now, especially being a dual core.

yeah store was closed here. I tried calling att to see if they would price match the 100 bucks at bestbuy and they told me nope and if i wanted bestbuy's price i should cancel and goto bestbuy. does att charge a restocking fee for canceling a plan within the 30 days?

Monterograves said:
yeah store was closed here. I tried calling att to see if they would price match the 100 bucks at bestbuy and they told me nope and if i wanted bestbuy's price i should cancel and goto bestbuy. does att charge a restocking fee for canceling a plan within the 30 days?
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Yes. Check their website for the exact amount.
BTW, they give this phone for free in Europe with contract.

Evo 3D is $469 off contract.

Soo I found that the evo would be $469 no contract. Now idk if its just me but imo id buy that over a 2yr anyday. No matter how u look at it. You'll be able to upgrade and sell the phone anytime u wish.
I'm getting the sgs2. But I was wondering hat everyone else thought about my opinion.
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I dont get what is so bad about renewing contract?
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
If you are going to be on Sprint anyway, why not renew the contract?
****I am only responding because I want to know what the people who dont want to renew contracts think****

shiftr182 said:
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
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I was wondering the same thing, as it seems cheaper to go the route above...

The way I look at it renewing the contract is no big deal, Sprint has the best prices when you look at the unlimited data.
If down the road they do jack the prices then you can terminate your contract with no early termination fee anyways since it's considered a change in contract terms and conditions.
What are you going to do, go to Verizon and be capped or AT&T and really get hamstrung?
My wife alone blows through at least 3gb a month in data streaming Pandora at work since their computers are locked down.

Well the whole idea is about what phone u have. Regardless of our plans.
As for early termination, are u allowed to keep the phone if u terminate it early? (Signed new 2yr when buying a phone?)
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Contract
If you search u can find deals if you are patient. I got the epic on a deal for 58 bucks (including shipping) with a 2 year contract. At that I could sell the phone and make a profit with the penalty for the contract.

Shoulon said:
Well the whole idea is about what phone u have. Regardless of our plans.
As for early termination, are u allowed to keep the phone if u terminate it early? (Signed new 2yr when buying a phone?)
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Yes. That's what the ETF is for.

NM - nmnmnmnm

This... Original evo is or was not sure right now but original price 499 so no proof?
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And no proof? What the hell man.. This thread is pointless unless you have a source for what you are saying
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just saw this on SD and preorderd the phone.. 469 is not that bad off contract..

I actually just bought two Epics newly referb'd for $200 a pop because I didn't want to renew my contract.
I did this for two reasons:
1.) Didn't want to give up my upgrade because of the SG2 or another phone that hasn't been released or announced yet.
2.) Concerned about Sprint's future between the big changes in the coverage map that occurred after March and the 20 billion dollar possible investment with Lightsquared that has "supposed" GPS interference issues--I'm not signing a 2 year until I get that warm fuzzy feeling again.
Besides, I feel that the beginning of the summer isn't when you renew the contract/phone, the fall is after knowing what's left for the end of the year, not much gets released in Q1 so IMO early Q4 is the sweet spot, so you can compare what's out there to what's left to be released.
The Evo and Epic had plenty of bugs in the beginning that I don't mind waiting a month after or so release to see what gets fixed and how long it takes.

I'm not switching from Sprint anytime soon, so I imagine that my renewal of contracts wont go in vain.

testacon said:
Besides, I feel that the beginning of the summer isn't when you renew the contract/phone, the fall is after knowing what's left for the end of the year, not much gets released in Q1 so IMO early Q4 is the sweet spot, so you can compare what's out there to what's left to be released.
The Evo and Epic had plenty of bugs in the beginning that I don't mind waiting a month after or so release to see what gets fixed and how long it takes.
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But if you think about it, the Evo and Epic came out within two months or so of each other, and they were the two biggest phones that sprint had all year. I will almost bet that they dont have any drastic changes after the sgs2 until next summer, and I will have another upgrade then. Heck, even if they do have another change, I will sell me epic, and my sgs2 if need be, and upgrade.

So the real issue is those of us that have the Epic that haven't passed our 1 year mark yet. Will Sprint let us renew a 2year to get the cheaper price? no way am i gonna fork out almost $500 for a phone just to have the newest.
JD

I'm actually quite with my Epic. Its probably going to take a 4.3" S-amoled screen with a keyboard to get me to replace it.

BigOnes69 said:
If you search u can find deals if you are patient. I got the epic on a deal for 58 bucks (including shipping) with a 2 year contract. At that I could sell the phone and make a profit with the penalty for the contract.
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You can sell your used epic for more than the $300 ETF plus $58 (plus sellers fees if you go to ebay)? Maybe you can net $5 if you're lucky. You'll more likely lose $50-100.

Poryhack said:
You can sell your used epic for more than the $300 ETF plus $58 (plus sellers fees if you go to ebay)? Maybe you can net $5 if you're lucky. You'll more likely lose $50-100.
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ETF isn't $300 I think it's 200 or 150.
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viper786 said:
ETF isn't $300 I think it's 200 or 150.
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Your're right, appears I was thinking AT&T/Verizon ETF. Sprint is a lot more reasonable.
Still though, used epics are only selling for avg $200...

shiftr182 said:
I dont get what is so bad about renewing contract?
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
If you are going to be on Sprint anyway, why not renew the contract?
****I am only responding because I want to know what the people who dont want to renew contracts think****
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You actually make a valid point... I have it preordered for 469 but reconsidering.
I am one year into contract. Wirefly/sprint is saying im not eligible for upgrade though
Sprint has determined that you are not eligible for an upgrade at this time

shiftr182 said:
I dont get what is so bad about renewing contract?
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
If you are going to be on Sprint anyway, why not renew the contract?
****I am only responding because I want to know what the people who dont want to renew contracts think****
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But that's not including the monthly payments for service
I would just buy it straight up 460$ and use the hotspot from the epic to run the evo3d
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Early upgrade for only 75$

I just talked to a sprint rep about trying to push my upgrade because of the changeover of the premier status from 1yr to 2yrs. I got denied, but I did find out about this buy back (or buy up, I can't remember for sure) program.
If you are within 10 months of your two year upgrade you can pay 75$ and they will reset your eligibility. So granted I can't get a phone now as i'm still 12 months out from 2 yrs, in Oct I can call back and tell them I would like to do this and they charge 75$ to your account and reset your eligibility so you get a full upgrade. It's better than nothing. I hope this helps some people that are looking for a new phone.
I called this number I think it's been posted in other threads to go right to a rep.
877-775-4886
From the sounds of it you should be able to call just normal customer care as well though.
Easy math for the upgrade:
The math is you have to be 10 months from your actual two year upgrade. So if you hit one year aug 1st you can't use this until oct 1.
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after 14 months this will work.

so how does the math work.. if you were to get a say the nexus s? would it be that much cheaper?

omair2005 said:
so how does the math work.. if you were to get a say the nexus s? would it be that much cheaper?
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if u get it at best buy today
it would cost 75 bucks

Hold up so on Aug 1st I hit a yr so am eligible for the partial upgrade.. meaning I can call and have them reset the upgrade for 75 and get the 2yr price ..

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so how does the math work.. if you were to get a say the nexus s? would it be that much cheaper?
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The math is you have to be 10 months from your actual two year upgrade. So if you hit one year aug 1st you can't use this until oct 1.
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after 14 months this will work.
That nexus deal was why I tried to get them to push the upgrade , oh well. someday I'll get a good deal like that, just not today.
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Hold up so on Aug 1st I hit a yr so am eligible for the partial upgrade.. meaning I can call and have them reset the upgrade for 75 and get the 2yr price ..
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So short answer is no sorry.

stormglove said:
The math is you have to be 10 months from your actual two year upgrade. So if you hit one year aug 1st you can't use this until oct 1.
or
after 14 months this will work.
That nexus deal was why I tried to get them to push the upgrade , oh well. someday I'll get a good deal like that, just not today.
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Got it .. thanks for the info... I will keep this in mind ..def worth it with all the new phones coming soon ...

And if your within 5 months and absolutly can't wait, it only 45 for a buy up
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I thought you could just get your eligibility reset when you are at least one year into your contract.

Ya shoulda kept pushing to get your 1 year upgrade back so you could get a free (45$ activation) nexus s at best buy today. That's how I got my gf a free epic during their gaga for phones promotion. You can still try just keep saying the contract I signed included yearly upgrades and I want to use it at best buy cause at first they want youto buy it from them at normal price 199.99.
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Sprint used to have a site that you could input your phone number and get your upgrade eligible date. Anyone know if that still exists?

brewdude said:
Sprint used to have a site that you could input your phone number and get your upgrade eligible date. Anyone know if that still exists?
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It is part of Sprint zone on your phone now. Dial *2 and look for upgrade eligibility in the menu.
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brewdude said:
Sprint used to have a site that you could input your phone number and get your upgrade eligible date. Anyone know if that still exists?
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What is the point of buying up? A full 2 year upgrade discount is only $150. So you would still technically pay the same amount for a phone(that isnt free). I was told I could buy up for $45. subtract that from the full discount and my current $75 discount and they are only saving me an extra $30 bucks on a $500+ phone. it would be cheaper to pay an etf then sign a new contract or wait two months after a full upgrade and sign a new contract. This is just my understanding.
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brewdude said:
Sprint used to have a site that you could input your phone number and get your upgrade eligible date. Anyone know if that still exists?
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Yeah. You can txt the word upgrade to 1311.
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darksideauto said:
What is the point of buying up? A full 2 year upgrade discount is only $150. So you would still technically pay the same amount for a phone(that isnt free). I was told I could buy up for $45. subtract that from the full discount and my current $75 discount and they are only saving me an extra $30 bucks on a $500+ phone. it would be cheaper to pay an etf then sign a new contract or wait two months after a full upgrade and sign a new contract. This is just my understanding.
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It's good to get the reset to take advantage of deal prices for upgrading to a new phone. For instance if you had an upgrade best buy was giving away nexus s for free today. think about it when the epic came out with an upgrade it was only 150 or something without it was like 5 hundo +, so I'd pay the 75 to save that much.
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pjy9394 said:
I thought you could just get your eligibility reset when you are at least one year into your contract.
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What he said. Doesn't that still work? Just call the right number...

jirafabo said:
What he said. Doesn't that still work? Just call the right number...
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I tried that and they said they stopped doing that sometime in july.
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i just called the sprint store & my friend that owns the store... said its an extra $75 on top of what the phone costs... so unless the brand newest nexus 4g is free which its not... so its price will be the new contract price + $75 for the early upgrade
if you really really want a discount... did you guys know that the 2yr 1yr contract renewal price for phones is the same... & also the same if you were a random person who never had sprint... sprints "discounts" are a scam... everyone in the world gets the same discount no matter how long youve been or not been with sprint, so that being said call sprint & ***** to em about how youve been a loyal customer for however long & why does some random person get the same discount as me & your going to drop sprint when your contract ends & goto verizion or att or whatever... this is what i do every time i want a new phone & they will gladly give you at least an extra $75 credit toward a new phone or on your bill

greenmuggy said:
i just called the sprint store & my friend that owns the store... said its an extra $75 on top of what the phone costs... so unless the brand newest nexus 4g is free which its not... so its price will be the new contract price + $75 for the early upgrade
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Can confirm best buy has free nexii... lol
Work next door.
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Etrick said:
Can confirm best buy has free nexii... lol
Work next door.
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well damn....lol i was thinkin the newest coolest galaxy s wouldn't be free

NS4G Best Buy Trade?

Since I'm not getting any answers in the Nexus forums, and I need an answer quickly, and I figured this community is full of kind people, I need a bit of help.
I have a Nexus S 4G and it hasn't been 30 days, and I wanted to go to best buy and trade it for the Epic 4G Touch.
I want to know if this is actually possible, and if I need to bring it in it's box or just the phone, and if I should use an "I didn't like it" excuse or something.
I'm feeling a bit sketchy about it, considering I got it with an upgrade.

if you got it after sept. 9, the window is only 14 days, not 30, otherwise yeah, you can exchange it and pay any difference owed. Don't know if you need the box and everything but I'd imagine you do

I got it on the 4th. Got it for 49.99.

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I got it on the 4th. Got it for 49.99.
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You should beable to take it back then and exchange it but a 3rd time will cost you I think
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ac16313 said:
You should beable to take it back then and exchange it but a 3rd time will cost you I think
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This would be my first time returning.

But there's just one thing I'm worried about. Would I be charged anything? Since I did upgrade it and only payed 50 dollars I'm worried if they would only take 50 dollars off of the E4GT.

Activation fee is 36 dollars
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Activation fee is 36 dollars
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Damn. I'm completely broke. So basically, I shouldn't even bother right now.

Yes you will pay. Unless the epic touch is 49.99 then it will not cost you. Don't go by the retail price because they won't. Hope that makes sense.
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From what I see, I'm betting this won't go through lol.

Might be a blessing in disguise. Sure, Epic Touch is amazing from a simple specs perspective, but considering the issues with the Epic 4G and updates, you'll probably get ice cream sandwich before epic touch users do.

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From what I see, I'm betting this won't go through lol.
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it's not an even exchange, the NS4g is $49.99 and the E4GT is $199.99 so you would have to pay the difference ($150.00) plus the activation fee

twyster said:
Might be a blessing in disguise. Sure, Epic Touch is amazing from a simple specs perspective, but considering the issues with the Epic 4G and updates, you'll probably get ice cream sandwich before epic touch users do.
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I would put money on the ns4g getting ics before we even get gingerbread for the og epic 4g......
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erikkWTF said:
But there's just one thing I'm worried about. Would I be charged anything? Since I did upgrade it and only payed 50 dollars I'm worried if they would only take 50 dollars off of the E4GT.
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That depends. Sprint recently got a little more hardcore about their $35 restocking fee. I think you can still do one free "customer satisfaction" exchange within the 14 day window (30 day window for you). If they don't charge you the restocking fee, you only have to pay the difference in price between the two phones, which I believe is $50 right now, but Best Buy has different pricing than other stores.
The $36 activation/upgrade fee should have been charged to your account when you got the Nexus. They won't charge you $36 again for a swap.

DiGi760 said:
That depends. Sprint recently got a little more hardcore about their $35 restocking fee. I think you can still do one free "customer satisfaction" exchange within the 14 day window (30 day window for you). If they don't charge you the restocking fee, you only have to pay the difference in price between the two phones, which I believe is $50 right now, but Best Buy has different pricing than other stores.
The $36 activation/upgrade fee should have been charged to your account when you got the Nexus. They won't charge you $36 again for a swap.
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If you return the device and reactivate an older phone you shouldn't be charged a restocking fee or activation. If not you are stuck
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djjroc007 said:
I would put money on the ns4g getting ics before we even get gingerbread for the og epic 4g......
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A few months ago I would have said no way. Now, I am starting to wonder...
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