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Knowing what you know now about the Epic....
My upgrade time is Monday and I need to replace my old Touch Pro (can you imagine I am still using it). I would like the Epic becuase of the keyboard, and the hardware does look more impressive. However the EVO fanboys are a bit much and you cannot get a good review of Epic from them.
So I am asking you all what do you think... Should I take the Epic and be happy? I have to extend my contract 2 years and I want to be happy with my decision. The angst here over GPS and Froyo has me thinking it might be safer to go to Evo w/o the keyboard... even though I can't stand the attitutudes of the Evo users.
Let me know what you think. Any comments I would appreciate.
For a good unbiased review see engadget. They did a thorough workup of the epic. Also I reccomend using the search function, there are multiple threads just like this and should answer ur questions.
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ravizzle said:
For a good unbiased review see engadget. They did a thorough workup of the epic. Also I reccomend using the search function, there are multiple threads just like this and should answer ur questions.
Sent from my Epic 4G
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I've read COUNTLESS posts. I am just looking for something a bit updated. It seems things change as the wind blows.
Well the ppl on the froyo leak say gps is fixed so if that and froyo are ur only 2 probs with epic, they will be solved soon with the ota (the leak is kinda buggy) which hopefully will come in the next few weeks.
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I like them both. The keyboard sold the epic to me, along with the display.
I love my Epic. I play a lot of games too, so the choice was obvious to me.
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I'm upgrading on thursday. I finally decided upon the epic because of the hardware keyboard, the awesome screen and the fact that I don't like sense. I went into the sprint store to get a feel for them. That definitely helped me. There have been a few moments here and there where I think "man, maybe I should get the evo." Especially after seeing how large the user community is. But I always come back to the epic. P.s. If you're the primary line then you should be eligible for yearly upgrades with the everything data plan. So you're only stuck with this phone for a year. Or give it thirty days ad switch to the evo if you're not satisfied.
I just got my epic and love it.
The only other phone I think I would consider is the G2 by T-mobile.
I wish we had froyo already but it should be out in a few weeks.
The epic's display is awesome.
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I'm upgrading on thursday. I finally decided upon the epic because of the hardware keyboard, the awesome screen and the fact that I don't like sense. I went into the sprint store to get a feel for them. That definitely helped me. There have been a few moments here and there where I think "man, maybe I should get the evo." Especially after seeing how large the user community is. But I always come back to the epic. P.s. If you're the primary line then you should be eligible for yearly upgrades with the everything data plan. So you're only stuck with this phone for a year. Or give it thirty days ad switch to the evo if you're not satisfied.
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Same here. I originally wanted Evo (didn't we all)... then I investigated Epic and found out its a whole lot more than just a keyboard for $50. The added hardware (processor, display, gpu, etc, etc, etc) make me think its plumb silly to buy an Evo... but man those Evo owners are very loud. No one is saying their phone is bad... obviously its great, but boy do they like to cut down the Epic.
In regards to primary line stuff... its currently set to my wife's line. She is on blackberry, but I will probably upgrade her to an Epic later this year so that we are on the same phone (unless a dual core 3.0 phone comes out... then I get it and she gets the Epic ).
I just jumped from an Evo to the Epic and this is my honest advice. If you are here for roms go with the Evo by far. The support for the Evo on this site and the lack there of for the Epic is like night and day.
If you don't plan on Rooting your phone and wanting everything stock go with the Epic. I don't see how anyone can argue differently.
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I just jumped from an Evo to the Epic and this is my honest advice. If you are here for roms go with the Evo by far. The support for the Evo on this site and the lack there of for the Epic is like night and day.
If you don't plan on Rooting your phone and wanting everything stock go with the Epic. I don't see how anyone can argue differently.
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Thanks. Good advice. I like that there is a support community for Evo... but I would only root/flash if I really had to. I am not a power user... couldn't care less about overclocking (at least for now - a year from now who knows).. that being said my Touch Pro is currently unlocked/flashed to MightyROM, so it's not out of the question. I certainly will not be planning to root/flash anytime before official Froyo is released on Epic.
Epic obviously doesn't have same dev community as evo, but we do have a good growing dev community. We have 4 or 5 solid roms out right now and even if that number doesn't grow I'm happy, its about quality not quantity.
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skywalkr2, I worked at Sprint for over 8 years (great place to work, left for an amazing opportunity elsewhere) and as a Pre owner, I was RABIDLY anticipating a new device this year to replace my Pre (greatest software on the market, worst hardware). I'm at work now and took a short break to look at my phone and happened to see this thread in the XDA app. As such, I don't have time at this moment to give my full opinion, but I can tell you that NOBODY did more research on this exact question than I did... and I ended up choosing the EVO AFTER I talked my own father into getting an Epic. I'll post the full list of reasons tonight, I just wanted to get in my two cents since obviously everyone in this forum is likely to tell you the Epic is the best. I was afraid you might see an overwhelming number of people telling you to grab an Epic and then you'd stop checking this thread.
I suggest you at least listen to my reasoning before jumping ship.
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Well the ppl on the froyo leak say gps is fixed so if that and froyo are ur only 2 probs with epic, they will be solved soon with the ota (the leak is kinda buggy) which hopefully will come in the next few weeks.
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Not so fast. The reports I have seen about the GPS are mixed. For example, see this.
It does sound like one of the GPS bugs -- the bogus estimated accuracy of 30.0 meters that we see now on the Epic-- is fixed in the beta release. But to test the most serious bug -- the failure to achieve satellite lock over time because of a time-sensitive cache problem -- it will take more time and effort than these early anecdotal reports can boast. So far I have not seen any Froyo-release beta tester who seems to know how to test the GPS rigorously, and I am not risking my own phone to flash this leaked ROM.
So the overall status of the GPS is unknown, as far as I'm concerned.
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I was afraid you might see an overwhelming number of people telling you to grab an Epic and then you'd stop checking this thread.
I suggest you at least listen to my reasoning before jumping ship.
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Great. I will definetely listen. It's exactly why I posted over here.
Dear OP,
If I were in your shoe, I'd wait at least till Epic gets Froyo update. Then you can make apples to apples comparison between Epic and EVO (assuming Evo doesn't get 2.3 update).
Or better yet, if you are a bit more patient, wait till january, when HTC Knight (Speedy?) becomes available. If Knights come with 2.2, it's more likely to get updated to 2.3 than current EVO or EPIC. The general consensus here is that neither EVO or Epic will officially get updated to Gingerbread. If you don't want to be stock with TP till January, get a refurb HTC Hero from ebay for about $100.
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Dear OP,
If I were in your shoe, I'd wait at least till Epic gets Froyo update. Then you can make apples to apples comparison between Epic and EVO (assuming Evo doesn't get 2.3 update).
Or better yet, if you are a bit more patient, wait till january, when HTC Knight (Speedy?) becomes available. If Knights come with 2.2, it's more likely to get updated to 2.3 than current EVO or EPIC. The general consensus here is that neither EVO or Epic will officially get updated to Gingerbread.
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Isn't the Knight 3g only?
Just upgraded from my trusty HTC Hero, about an hour ago. I have a lot to get used to, touch wiz is a lot different than sence. Definitely faster an nicer. Next thing to do is root and get rid out the bloat!
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Just upgraded from my trusty HTC Hero, about an hour ago. I have a lot to get used to, touch wiz is a lot different than sence. Definitely faster an nicer. Next thing to do is root and get rid out the bloat!
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Get launcher po. Its like sense on steroids, and the tw notification bar with toggles is so awesome. I came from hero too.
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I might have some perspective on this question. I had a Touch Pro 2 prior to my Epic. I thought the TP2 was a great phone. Now I don't know how I ever managed with it. So point one is, EITHER the Epic or the Evo will seem like a HUGE step up.
One of the other phones on our plan is an Evo, so I've had a fair chance to experience that phone and my Epic.
I would give both very high marks, and I think that the recent rating (can't remember from what publication) that gave them number one and number two of all phones was correct.
I waited for the Epic because I was used to the keyboard on the TP2, and thought it was very necessary. However, Once I got the Epic, with Swype, I find I almost never use the keyboard. It's still handy once in a while, but now I could live without it, as long as I have Swype.
For a short while we were successful in getting Swype to work on the Evo. When it did, the Evo really would have worked for me as well as the Epic. Alas, it has not proven possible to get the program to work reliably on there.
So oddly, the phone with the keyboard doesn't really need it because it has Swype, and the phone without a keyboard doesn't have Swype, and can't seem to have it.
That comes down to the sole "real" issue for me. Both have been nearly trouble free, and Android just annihilates Windows Mobile.
Radio Shack now has the Epic for $220.00, and the Evo for $150.00. When I bought the difference was $50.00, and then they lowered it within the first 30 days, so my total difference was only $20.00. For $20.00 more, I'd say take the Epic for sure. For $70.00 more, I'd say the scale tips in favor of the Evo.
Again, they're both just great phones. I don't think you can go "wrong" with either.
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So, I have had both phones Epic & Evo. Here is my opinion about both.
Evo had a bigger screen and kickstand that I love and miss till this day. I loved the build qualitiy of the Evo, it just felt so much more durable. The evo is truly a great phone and i miss the heck outta it!
The Epic.... I love it! I love the keyboard, I tried so hard to get use to the on-screen keyboard on the EVO (even tried swype on it) and couldn't use it.. As I am a heavy texter (about 3000+ a month) the keyboard is a must for me. The screen on the Epic is well..... just EPIC! Its amazing! but then again the Evo had the bigger screen....
Both are awesome phones! If I could have both I would use the EVO to watch movies (kickstand) and to customize a lot. But I would def use the Epic as my daily phone. I strongly believe once we receive froyo there will be bigger & better things stored for us.
If you think you can live without a keyboard go for the EVO, but since your use to keyboards like the tp had then I would get the Epic.. (That is if you used it a lot?)
Like I stated both phones are great but I'd have to say Epic with the screen, keyboard & I personally think the camera quality is better on both the front and back. Defiantly the video quality is better on the Epic. 720p on the EVO looked like crap and didn't even look like 720p, the Epic is much crisp & clear IMO.
However I did miss HTC Sense (i loved the animations & clock) but with a couple apps from the market, you can make your phone feel like your using an HTC phone! Good luck on whatever you may choose, I'm sure you will be satisfied with either phone!
Just wanted to say hi................traded my Epic for an Evo today, seems like better days should be ahead now
A wise decision you have made, my friend. Wise indeed.
thats what I am hoping for. Epic had some really nice features but in the end the lack of OTA support and me never once sliding out the keyboard to use we enough to lure me to the Evo
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cool.. I hope you find happiness and fulfillment with the evo.
Funny... Me and the wife went from blackberry’s to EVO at the same time, and it took her about 2 weeks and she was done with the EVO. She wanted a new phone or a divorce. So down to the store we went and she walked away with the Epic. I'll say this much now that I've completely rooted, Rom'ed, battery tweaked, and spend about a month learning everything about the phone, it's the s*i*.... So out of the box the epic might win, but in the long haul I'm glad i stuck with the evo... The divorce, however it did cross my mind...
there will always be other new phones, they are much cheaper than divorces
but sometimes..
all you have is...
cut your losses and move on...
about the phone...
yes.. out of the box..
the epic is nice... same box
evo.. you can change that box.. with so many updates and ROMs and Sense 2.x
so what are the popular Roms here?
Im on Myn's Warm and its pretty good so far............hows CMod, is it fully functional yet???
I've been on MIUI since November. I tried going back to sense about a month ago, stuck with it for all of 10 minutes and restored my MIUI nandroid. MIUI is the perfect marriage of form and function.
are there any bugs with it. I loved CMod on my Epic but the Camera didnt work, nor did 4g or http streaming among others
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are there any bugs with it. I loved CMod on my Epic but the Camera didnt work, nor did 4g or http streaming among others
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Well pretty much all custom ROMs have bugs and MIUI is no exception. Thankfully, I have yet to encounter any with the build that I am on (1.1.28). I know some people have had [minor] gps issues, and some camera issues but I haven't experienced any. Since flashing this build I have not had one reboot, FC or any type of hiccup. It runs beautifully.
4G doesn't work (yet) but that's not really a bug. They are saying we will have it in the coming weeks.
have you compared it to Cmod?
There is cyanogenmod 7 wich is android gingerbread. Works very good i have used it and there is already a beta build of cyanogenmod 7 with wimax but like i said its in the beta process not yet ready to become stable but it works. I really like mikfroyos rom v4.5 its the fastest rom i ever used thats including myns and freshs rom and i like the theme it comes already installed. So if you wants sense give mikfroyo a try and if you want aosp go with cyanogenmod 7 nightlys very stable very fast and it has wimax hope this helps
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have you compared it to Cmod?
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Yeah, I tried CM but it's way too bland for me. MIUI is more stable, performs at least as fast, and looks a heck of a lot better. In fact, I get higher quad scores on MIUI than I did on CM.
hope u all enjoy this read.
im going to post my experiences and thoughts with both phones.
not hating on either one, just a clear cut opinion.
I personally first came to android after the Evo came out, i was lucky to get one July 27th. I had the G1 for a couple weeks on Tmo (a long time ago) and i was not impressed.
before that i was a blackberry guy for the longest.
I switched from Tmo to sprint because tmos service went to crap. i drive for a living and i do about 200 miles a day. Tmos service would drop during the drive in the same exact spots where i knew i would lose service. 7 different places to be exact with crappy reception in between.
i figured id try sprint. anyways i stuck with them with a awesome phone the Evo 4g.
The Dev area for the evo is un-real, roms galore, kernel galore, everything is flashable and seems to be very easy to do.
A plus for the evo for sure.
With the right rom/kernel combo along with the seido 3500 battery, it was a incredible phone. Doing anything i needed it to when i needed it. Never having to worry about battery life.
i had no issues with the evo, but i did have to return it due to it overheating and shutting off until cooled (kernel issue and something i did im sure), i got it replaced and was happy as a clam.
As for samsung, i critized them and hated on them every chance i got.
the support for them always seemed to be crap and doing things on them seemed to be not as easy.
well some things happened id rather not discuss and i had to get rid of the evo, i found a Epic on craigslist(may 1st) and it was listed as a "galaxy pro" The guy didnt know what it was, but the pics showed it was a epic. i verified the ESN was clean and picked it up for $65.00!!
Couldn't pass that up at all, besides all that i needed another android, for a couple weeks i was using a beat up blackberry curve 8530 and seemed to be having withdraws lol.
Anyways i fell in love with the sammy as soon as i started playing with it. The screen is just poppy and incredible. it blows the evo screen away easy.
im not fond of slide out keyboards, but i figured with the screen being 4 inchs, id have no issue with adjusting from the evo and its 4.3 inch.
Touchwiz isnt all that bad either, i thought it would be worse, but its not bad at all. Can become adjusted to TWiz or Sense very quickly.
it fits well in my hand, but im too interested in the power button on the side, seems out of place. Really im used to the button up top along with the charger port on the bottom instead of the top, but love the little "door" on the charger port.
Dev area for the Epic is smaller, and a little more "intermediate" then the simple flash and go of the evo.
i miss the evo dev section, but have become used to the epic area and getting the hang of things quickly.
To be honest.
both phones are great, id be happy with either or. With the evo its all in the dev section, with the epic its all in the screen.
i wont be slamming samsung anymore because im just as happy as i was with the evo. i may go back to HTC for the ease of things after the evo 3d or something else comes out.
but im very comfortable with the epic and its a great choice in the android world right along side the evo.
the screen really is amazing. i like the camera better too. sometimes i wish i had a snapdragon phone just for roms, but this whole nexus S thing could change everything. sounds like a fair review to me. just flashed the ACS rom and its pretty damn good. will deffinitly tide me over till GB
I picked up an evo on launch day, broke it and jumped ship to the epic when it launched. While the evo had a better dev community imo, I still enjoy my epic. The screen is really what takes the cake. I could care less about the keyboard so next time I'm in the market for a phone I'm gonna sit back, observe the dev communtiy for a while when the new flagships launch and see what happens. I do love my epic but when it comes down to it, its all about development which I feel the epic lacks compared to the evo. The devs here are amazing, I just feel that things are much slower around here than the evo section. Still though this is a great phone. I've been running the ACS rom for a few days and its flawless. Not to mention I was able to get a day and a halfs worth of battery on it
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Both suck. Att tilt ftw
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Both suck. Att tilt ftw
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i second that, ill even buy your little epics and evos for $25, each. ill even help you out and show you a gently used awesome tilt.
http://www.craytonelectronics.com/8925a.html
I really like Touchwiz, I avoid roms that don't support it.
I first got my epic over the Evo because I knew the battery life was going to be much better. I'm not sure if it's really any different or not, I haven't used an Evo many times other than at work (I work with phones). I think the epic is better because of the AMOLED screen. Plain and simple, everything just looks better.
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the screen really is amazing. i like the camera better too. sometimes i wish i had a snapdragon phone just for roms, but this whole nexus S thing could change everything. sounds like a fair review to me. just flashed the ACS rom and its pretty damn good. will deffinitly tide me over till GB
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You know i forgot to say anything about the camera itself.
we all know the evo and HTC make ****ty camera drivers , constant complaint even though its a 8mp on the evo.
samsung on the other hand knows what they are doing in this regard.
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I picked up an evo on launch day, broke it and jumped ship to the epic when it launched. While the evo had a better dev community imo, I still enjoy my epic. The screen is really what takes the cake. I could care less about the keyboard so next time I'm in the market for a phone I'm gonna sit back, observe the dev communtiy for a while when the new flagships launch and see what happens. I do love my epic but when it comes down to it, its all about development which I feel the epic lacks compared to the evo. The devs here are amazing, I just feel that things are much slower around here than the evo section. Still though this is a great phone. I've been running the ACS rom for a few days and its flawless. Not to mention I was able to get a day and a halfs worth of battery on it
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i completely agree, same thing i was basically saying.
im running syndicate fully loaded myself.
having crappy battery but im trying to address all that as of right now.
My wife has an evo and I have the epic so I do have the luxury of flashing both. Yes the evo development section s is bigger buy there are so many roms they all copy each other. I like the roms hear as they all offer something unique. I also love the Amoled screen and the camera. The epic is faster in both cpu and gpu. They are both awesome phones I just prefer the epic. It is if u like to flash stuff to have an evo though. I can flash all day lol
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This is what I like to see..a lot of people never give things a fair chance and go off baseless rumors....
For example:
1) Samsung does not support their phones:
This was kind samsungs fault as they promised an 2.0 update to the Behold and then never delivered..said it wasn't possible and only updated to 1.6...from then on everyone made the assumption that Samsung would NEVER update their phones...other manufacturers havent updated their phones either on plenty of occasions..sure its Samsungs fault for not delivering but you can't base everything on 1 occasion...Also a lot of people group "support" and "updating"...Samsung is know for its good support actually..
2) Touchwiz is the devil that lags up the phone and brings nothing
While all UIs add bloat..TouchWiz is not as bad as people make it out to be..most hate TouchWiz received was in the winmo days...and the old Touchwiz was junk..plus the new TouchWiz looks similar to the iphone in the app launcher thus mustering more hate...I wont say TouchWiz is the best UI..but its one of the cleanest UIs I've seen..
I find it Ironic how an HTC device has like 5 issues and people just go oh well..while if samsung has 1 issue people scream how Samsung sucks and they shouldnt have bought it...my only request is that people look at all manufacturers equally without bias and judge based on the overall product fairly..
So its not about who is better HTC or Samsung..its about who is it acceptable to buy from...and at this moment both HTC and Samsung are my options for buying...this gives me more choice...in the future I hope to add LG and maybe Motorola to my "acceptable" list if they meet my standards..and the more manufacturers that meet my standards the more "CHOICE" I have...I expect by the SGS 2 becoming mainstream the community will rival HTC devices in development..
What I really liked about the evo is that EVERYTHING Is flashable.
From radio updates,to pri, to anything you can think of.
You just download it and flash it, so simple.
Kernel support its also great.
thats what I miss most.
Not saying that the epic devs are bad, im loving avs.
But the evo area is def more popular.
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What I really liked about the evo is that EVERYTHING Is flashable.
From radio updates,to pri, to anything you can think of.
You just download it and flash it, so simple.
Kernel support its also great.
thats what I miss most.
Not saying that the epic devs are bad, im loving avs.
But the evo area is def more popular.
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can you reiterate? we can flash anything on the Epic as well...
But obviously they have a larger dev base due to:
1) Evo coming out first
2) People choosing HTC just because its HTC
3) Sprint spent their entire budget advertising the EVO while spent nothing to advertise the Epic until it won the pcworld #1 phone award..then they spent a little..
4) Nexus One giving a lot of grounds
5) Devs more used to how HTC does things
Well Odin has to be used for radios and stuff.
We cant simply flash a rom without checking what file system it is, things like that.
They are non existent on the evo.
Along with the whole rfs/ext system thing we don't need to worry about on the evo.
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What I really liked about the evo is that EVERYTHING Is flashable.
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Everything is flashable on the Epic, too - see Odin.
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Well Odin has to be used for radios and stuff.
We cant simply flash a rom without checking what file system it is, things like that.
They are non existent on the evo.
Along with the whole rfs/ext system thing we don't need to worry about on the evo.
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If you use cwm on the evo its basically the same as our epics, edify=cwm3 amend=cwm2. The bonus for the evo is amon RA which can go both ways. Just try flashing gb with cwm2 and well your in trouble.
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i mean non Odin wise,
like on the go type stuff.
i dont know how many times ive downloaded different kernels or dif lock screens, radios or pri's on the go and could just go into recovery and flash.
no pc required.
thats what i meant.
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i mean non Odin wise,
like on the go type stuff.
i dont know how many times ive downloaded different kernels or dif lock screens, radios or pri's on the go and could just go into recovery and flash.
no pc required.
thats what i meant.
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Your joking right? I have only used odin once to flash the ec05 modem and I've flashed most of the eb13/ec05 roms, kernels, themes, ect. Actually I've flashed all eb13/ec05 kernels and have been on cm7 a1&a4. I avoid odin at all costs, but its always there just in case I goof. So far so good.
Ya. The epics screen is amazing. Im not buying no other device unless its amoled.
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The Epic is my first Android phone and I picked it over the Evo for two main reasons.
1) Physical keyboard
I thought I needed a physical keyboard and it turns out I do and I don't. For email/sms Swype works great. However for things like working in the terminal the virtual keyboard just doesn't work for me.
2) The screen.
Don't have to say much here
Overall I've been very happy w/ my Epic. Still need to test out Syndicate but for now rooted w/ the screen rotation lag fix is good enough.
Currently on an EVO 4g trying to decide if I want the Evo 3d, Moto Photon, NS4G, or stay on my Evo 4g and wait to see if the next Nexus comes in the upcoming months to Sprint.
My question to the members here, what is the NS4G community base like? Man NS4g users and devs out there? My hesitation is that the phone may have been passed up by many for the upcoming "super phones" resulting in less of a community = less community dev work for the device.
Thank you
For the nexus s 4 g we got miui and cm7. There are also some cm7/aosp based roms as well. We also got Trinity kernel and also netarchy. Honestly we got all the big names it just may seem like we have a little amount of roms. As for if you should get it, it's all up to you. I for one will only use a nexus product, I'm too attached to aosp to go use sense or touchwiz. But I heard the sgs2 might be coming out soon, that device is wow.
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Seems like there is a great community here. If you coming from a EVO 4g you might want to stick with another phone like EVO 3D. The Nexus S 4G comes very bland. However you can customize it very easy. You have to be better than a advanced user to stick the NEXUS S 4G. As far as something like touchwiz, there is a mod.. Touchwiz needs alot of work to be done to have it completely ported over. People in this community seem more concerned with other things and have a bad taste for something like touchwiz.
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Currently on an EVO 4g trying to decide if I want the Evo 3d, Moto Photon, NS4G, or stay on my Evo 4g and wait to see if the next Nexus comes in the upcoming months to Sprint.
My question to the members here, what is the NS4G community base like? Man NS4g users and devs out there? My hesitation is that the phone may have been passed up by many for the upcoming "super phones" resulting in less of a community = less community dev work for the device.
Thank you
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Thank you for the replies, they have helped but still not sure which way I am going to go.
Been looking at the benchmarks and see they are fairly even, some say the adreno is better, others say the 540 is better.
I had horrible luck with CM7 on my original Evo, while other AOSP roms ran like a dream. Leads me to wonder how AOSP will be on the 3d. But with Ice cream comes dual core support and I would assume the 3d at that point would pull ahead of the NS4g in performance, making it more future proof for me over the next 2 years.
Anyways, thank you for the responses.
Is the miui bugfree for the nexus s 4g yet? Ive still yet to root my phone lol, been waiting on miui to be stable...
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fraspas said:
Is the miui bugfree for the nexus s 4g yet? Ive still yet to root my phone lol, been waiting on miui to be stable...
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MIUI, Salvage Mod, Ultimate Droid, and VaelPak AOSP preview were the most stable AOSP roms I ran on my Evo.
Now, each have their own issues, but they were stable and responsive. One thing that seems to be a mess across all of them is a less than stellar wifi signal compared to when running Sense, yet another thing that makes me worried about going with eh 3d, it's horribly annoying on the Evo 4g.
How "future proof" would you say the NS4G is? Will hardware acceleration keep the phone capable for another 2 years yet? I also want to check out the 3d screen in sunlight, huge geocacher and the Evo was terrible in sunlight.
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MIUI, Salvage Mod, Ultimate Droid, and VaelPak AOSP preview were the most stable AOSP roms I ran on my Evo.
Now, each have their own issues, but they were stable and responsive. One thing that seems to be a mess across all of them is a less than stellar wifi signal compared to when running Sense, yet another thing that makes me worried about going with eh 3d, it's horribly annoying on the Evo 4g.
How "future proof" would you say the NS4G is? Will hardware acceleration keep the phone capable for another 2 years yet? I also want to check out the 3d screen in sunlight, huge geocacher and the Evo was terrible in sunlight.
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Can't speak for the Evo 3D but the NS4G is nothing short of fantastic in sunlight... YMMV though.
The NS4G will have more developer support most likely, performance isn't going to leave you hanging, however the Evo3D does win the specs war.
Future proof in what way? The hardware is going to be capable for years to come I imagine... software wise a Nexus phone is the definition of future proof. You will be getting updates directly from Google, likely for a very long time to come.
The Evo3D has more bells and whistles, while the NS is more of a enthusiasts phone for those that want pure Android, the latest updates, a large development scene, etc. Gotta pick your poison from there.
And honastly there alot orf "CUSTOM" sense roms for the evo that have the alot of the same tweaks with just different themes already mixed in. But to not to discredit anyone i cant make hide or hair of software
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I have tried to flash many roms, keep them, and love them. But there is just no ROM that I think does the EVO right like Synergy. Almost a year since its release, too! I remember flashing every one of it's nightly builds.
The EVO's life span is at its end. I feel like because of this well collaborated project, I really have enjoyed and got the most function out of my EVO.
Is anyone else just a die hard fan of this rom?
Thank you DEVs:
DJzager
incubus26JC
Joelz9614
myn
Rafyvitto
siulmagic
WoZZer
Virus
for your amazing ROM.
P.S. EVO 4G LTE, here I come.
i was on rls1 up until a couple of weeks ago, loved it. i'm running express for my daily now, playing with shooter and kornerz. all are working good and i like them all.
the evo still has a good bit of life left.. the devs keep bringing new features to the table. i'll be using it till sprint gets something i like, my contract goes for another 3 months..
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I was a die hard fan at one time and still consider that ROM sort of a high water mark for Sense ROMs for the Evo. (As opposed to quick and dirty ports from other phones, this one showed some real skill and care on the part of the developers.) It piggybacked on the great community of fans that had grown around myn's previous ROMs, so the abundance of themes and mods was a real selling point as well.
But there's no denying it was based on an older stock ROM and older kernel, had CIQ baked in, offered a confusing experimental GodMode option (that turned out to be a developmental dead end and was incompatible with any mods or kernels not explicitly designed for it), and is no longer being updated with key performance enhancements that Sprint, HTC, and the wider XDA community have discovered or developed for almost a year now.
MikG is the logical successor to Synergy. Not that there aren't even newer and more exciting ROMs out there, but MikG really is the closest thing we have to Synergy that is actively maintained.
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Gotta go with mikG also. Even while synergy was still being developed I preferred mikg, miks roms are always great.
i was definitely hyped up for the release, but could never become a die hard fan. tried, and it was very good, just couldn't love it. I've been on Tommy Tomatoes since it was released and find it significantly more stable and useful. I believe Tommy is a Myn disciple, so you would be as happy there
I will admit that I never ran the Synergy Roms but I've flashed a lot of Roms since rooting my phone in Sept of 2011 and Tommy is doing incredible stuff.
His Roms are great! Super stable with a ton of tweaks. Supermagic is probably going to blow everyone's mind!
Just my opinion of course. Although all of the Developers keep the Evo 4G interesting. The amount of roms that are ported over to the Evo are unreal. Lots of variety.
I might give supermagic a try.... Been on mikg forever because I always come back
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I tried synergy mikgg3.11 and supermagoc classic evolution. I keep going back to swagged out stock n with lionfish
what a great rom it is, it was my first custom rom that i used and ended up using it for a few months and consider going back to it regularly when i get fed up with dealing with ics roms that are not stable enough for me to use on a daily basis and i kinda miss having htc sense now that im almost addicted to cm builds
Synergy was my first custom. But too many bugs for me. I did move on to Energy, but once ICS has been ported, there's no looking back.
CM9 all the way.