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Ok i rooted a bunch of android phones but this is my first winmo phone. so i am a noob to this. I just need some clarification on porting android to the hd2. In order to port android i must flash a custom winmo rom and load android as kind of like a "secondary" OS right?
So everytime I reboot my phone I must reboot it into winmo and then load android? And is there currently or is anyone working on a way to boot straight into android?
Sorry for asking so many questions and sounding like a noob but I just want to be 110% clear before I try anything.
I believe there are android roms that boot right into android.
In order to run Android:
1. you need to go through the [BUILD]s in the Android Development section... located in the other HD2 area.
2. Unless otherwise instructed by the build creater, you need to make an Android folder on your SD card, and copy the contents of the build into that folder.
3. If you have an "Android Friendly" ROM, there will be an icon already to start Android, which will auto-run the CLRCAD.exe (for sound to work) & HaRet.exe (which loads Android) If you are on a Stock ROM, or one that does not have the Android loader, then you will either need to run those in order manually (CLRCAD then HaRet) or download the Android loader applet (in the Android Development section)
4. If you want Android to load automatically, there are custom ROMs found in the Android Development section that are setup for this purpose, HOWEVER, you will need to make sure that it's TMOUS HD2 compatible
5. if you experience "issue xyz" be sure to check the Android Development section, as they have probably already addressed it
ok thanks so much im gonna be porting android over as soon as i get home from work today hopefully i do it without screwing anything up lol
Will Android work w/Outlook sync? Also, are you still able to tether with Android? I've searched around but haven't found the answer. If no for either then that will be the deal breaker for me. Thanks in advance
RY35AN said:
Will Android work w/Outlook sync? Also, are you still able to tether with Android? I've searched around but haven't found the answer. If no for either then that will be the deal breaker for me. Thanks in advance
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it does work with ActiveSync, it that's what you're asking?
as for the tethering, look in the build notes.... they give a list of options that do & don't work.
truthkillszz -
nice thing is, if something does get messed up, reboot format the sd, put the build on and try again ;-p since it runs off of the sd and not ROM, there's little chance of doing something a reset can't fix
Ryan79 said:
it does work with ActiveSync, it that's what you're asking?
as for the tethering, look in the build notes.... they give a list of options that do & don't work.
truthkillszz -
nice thing is, if something does get messed up, reboot format the sd, put the build on and try again ;-p since it runs off of the sd and not ROM, there's little chance of doing something a reset can't fix
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Hey, thanks for the info. I appreciate it!
I live in France and have successfully loaded one of the Meejay-froyo sense build on my phone. I can boot Android Ok, but nothing seems to have changed. My home screen and my start menu look the same as on winMo.
1) I cannot installed any applications, I don't have Android Market, when I open the Android Market from any of the 6 browsers I had under winMo (and which are working even with Android), I DO NOT GET THE "SEARCH" option.
2) When I download any non Market application to my sD card, I cannot install it.
One will say that I need the App installer and so on, but this is also in an *.apk format and I could not go further.
So PLEASE, ANY HELP WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED.
If your home screen and start menu look the same as in windows mobile then you're not running Android. Fair enough, it's a Sense build, so there's not a massive difference between Sense on winmo and Android, but the start menu is totally different.
Are you running clrad.exe & haret.exe to boot Android?
Is this your first time trying to use Android, or have you had any other builds running for you?
Thank you John for your reply. That was the first build I've put on the phone. I'm using a Android Loader application to boot Android.
kmessie said:
Thank you John for your reply. That was the first build I've put on the phone. I'm using a Android Loader application to boot Android.
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If you're sure it's booting okay then it sounds like the copy of Android you're using is somehow corrupted. I'd recommend downloading a different one and trying that instead.
I can vouch for the stabililty of this one, as it's what I use...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747492
It's at least worth trying so that you can rule it out, if nothing else.
Okay,
I'll uninstall the previous one and try the one you mentionned. Then I will see. Thanks a lot.
kmessie said:
Okay,
I'll uninstall the previous one and try the one you mentionned. Then I will see. Thanks a lot.
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No problem mate. Good luck, and let us know how you get on.
I understand there's a tips and tricks thread that explains things in more detail but how does somebody go from just getting the phone to installing, or even understanding, things like obsidian, onyx, morphing and learning what the basic functions of such programs are.
The question I currently have is concerning flashing custom roms. In the tips & tricks thread, it talks of froyo builds (ex: bionix & frankin-twiz). What is it exactly? From what I understand, it sounds like a mini os that you install onto your device which helps in applying different functions to it, which makes custom roms possible.
I'm currently trying to get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530 to work on my vibrant. Can anybody help a newbie out?
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I understand there's a tips and tricks thread that explains things in more detail but how does somebody go from just getting the phone to installing, or even understanding, things like obsidian, onyx, morphing and learning what the basic functions of such programs are.
The question I currently have is concerning flashing custom roms. In the tips & tricks thread, it talks of froyo builds (ex: bionix & frankin-twiz). What is it exactly? From what I understand, it sounds like a mini os that you install onto your device which helps in applying different functions to it, which makes custom roms possible.
I'm currently trying to get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530 to work on my vibrant. Can anybody help a newbie out?
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the link you posted is just to a theme.
to get the theme to work you'll need to be running obsidian first.
so lets see, the easiest way to explain the different versions 2.2, 2.1 1.6, 1.5 and so forth is this...
its pretty much like going from windows 95 to 98 to 2000 to xp to vista and so forth.
our vibrants come with android 2.1, 2.2 is the next version of the os to come out (basicaly like moving from vista to windows 7)
the different roms like obsidian and Macnut and such are just names that the developers gave their roms.
what happens is a developer starts out with a version of android (in the case of Macnut and Obsidian this is 2.2)
and then they add their own modified tweaks and such to it.
and so in the end they get Obsidian which is a modified 2.2
or Macnut which is also a modified 2.2
they differ a bit though as Obsidian is based almost totaly on a leaked version of 2.2 for the US vibrant, where Macnut is based alot on the 19000 version of 2.2 for the european phones.
so when choosing a rom just choose the base you want first: 2.1 or 2.2
then look through the tweaks on a few roms and read some of the thread for that rom untill you get a feel for what makes it unique
you can also just experiment by flashing a rom for a day or so and then switching to a new one untill you find one you like.
Morphing is a way to apply a theme to a rom, this does not generaly change functionality at all, it only changes apearance.
alot of themes are either morphs (you install them using metamorph, which is an app from the market)
or they also come in zip format (which are installed by flashing from recovery)
for the theme you posted you will need to flash obsidian, and then flash the zip for the theme afterwards.
have you rooted your device yet?
thats the place to start, if you need help just pm me or repost here and I'll do what I can.
also, there is a "newbie's guide":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
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also, there is a "newbie's guide":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
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lol true true
Before you even want to start with anything, you have to learn what 'rooting' your phone means.
Without root, you won't be able to do any of the above. You might be able to download the programs necessary, but you won't be able to use them.
For ex. Titanium Backup, ROM Manager, etc.
We use ROM Manager to install different ROMs on our phones.
Much to read, my young grasshopper.
OP, I made the Tips/Tricks sticky... would you PM be exactly what you think it lacks? I want to make sure it is applicable to everyone... I thought it was straight-forward, perhaps not.
my phone is rooted. So how do I go about flashing obsidian?
I thought roms were the same as themes? What's the difference?
And just to clarify I understand the tips and tricks thread is sort of the newbies guide but even then theres a lot of terminology that a new user wouldn't understand. I just wanted some basic information that would allow me to transition into the tips and tricks thread more easily.
I appreciate the responses so far
Have you download Rom Manager from the Market? If not, do so.
Then follow the instructions (in the sticky) to flash the recovery (it's the top of the list when you open Rom Manager).
Assuming you did that, you can reboot into recovery, make a backup of your system.. something you can always come back to (a timestamp of your system at that moment).
Download the ROM you want, put it on your internal memory (sdcard/....) NOT in a folder.
Go to Clockwork recovery, choose to insall a zip from sd card... select the name of the ROM and then click Yes to install it.
It will run it's course, then you can just reboot when done.
The first bootup will take a long time (10 minutes probably)... let it boot.... leave your phone alone for like 10 or so minutes after bootup (suggested by Team Whiskey, I never really do this).
It's that easy.
Think of a ROM as an OS... the developers take Froyo (2.2) or Eclair (2.1) and make a lot of tweaks, remove things, add things... basically anything to enhance the user experience.
THEMES are something you flash over a custom ROM... it can change the icons, graphics, notification bar, etc... they are cosmetic. You see in my signature I have Axura 2.0.3 (amazing rom and there is a newer version out) and then I have BlackFroyo (which is the theme) on top of the ROM to change the look of things. Axura has a steel looking notification bar, I much prefer black (hence the theme I chose).
The ONE thing that can be confusing... if you make a backup right now (you have stock eclair), if you flash a froyo rom... you would need to flash either the stock eclair kernel (the download link is also in the sticky) to restore your nandoid backup.... OR, you could just flash another ROM that has a kernel (most do) and you would be good to go too.
And addition to this is to make sure your phone is NOT hardware locked.
To test it:
1) Take out battery from the phone and put it back in again
2) The USB cable plugged into the computer (not in the phone yet)
3) Push and hold down both of the Volume buttons at the same time
4) Plug in USB cable and it should take you into the Download mode.
If it does you are good to go. Just read some about Odin and Stock Android
If it isn't you need to make sure to flash JI6 to your phone (also Stock) onto your phone using Stock Manager. That should fix your hardware locked. Go over the above steps to make sure that is the case.
At this point, I have rooted my device and downloaded rom manager.I believe I have backed up everything after following the directions and I do have the blackfroyo.zip on my sd card and for some reason it won't "go" (although I'm sure there's a step I am missing here, something with obsidian) so that wasn't much of a surprise.
Edit: I noticed I tried to use a theme on there and not the obsidian "OS" (idiot) when I tried the backup thing with rom manager. Where can I download the most recent version of obsidian and/or is axura an acceptable alternative?
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Edit: I noticed I tried to use a theme on there and not the obsidian "OS" (idiot) when I tried the backup thing with rom manager. Where can I download the most recent version of obsidian and/or is axura an acceptable alternative?
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Been working on updating the wiki. Please check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_SGH-T959#ROMs for the different ROMs currently available.
^^ both are solid. I prefer Auxura *no touchwiz*.... download it from the development section. Place in on the internal (sdcard/ ) and flash it, reboot... I would let the phone chill for awhile then reboot again.... THEN if you want, start messing with the theme. You can see from my signature you and I are similar.
to the OP, I started a noob friendly guide in the Q&A section. Please let me know exactly what you want in there.
Here is a video guide, its kinda old but the principles are the same.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/02/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-samsung-captivate-vibrant/
I have been browsing around and reading on XDA since I got my G1 on release day. I have since upgraded to the MYT3G and now to the Vibrant. I have always used XDA as a source of information for rooting, etc. I don't post very often, but, I would like to throw props out to all the individuals in the thread, this is one of the few threads I have read on XDA that no one got flamed for being a "noob" and asking basic info, the information given was clear, accurate and very helpful. No one pointed to using the search function, everyone just gave good answers. AWESOME
I hope to see more threads like this in the future. Bravo and well done to all.
So I tried installing obsidian 5 and this is what happened. I first put the zip file on my sd card, I did all the necessary prerequisites (I think) using rom manager, flash recovery > vibrant yada yada yada and then pressed install rom from sd card and chose the obsidian zip file. Then the phone starts backing itself up and it finally reaches a point where it says (E: Can't open/sdcard/sd/obsidian_v5_beta.zip (no such file or directory) Installation aborted.
I then try to navigate to the file from the menu but whenever I click the sd file, it just exits, I think it says that no zip file is found or something but when I boot it up normally afterwards, the file is still there.
But the file is within the sd file . . . what am I doing wrong? I tried to fix permissions thinking it was that but no luck.
You probably need to move to the rom to the internal sd card. I thought you're able to add it to the external with the recent update but perhaps not
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bellrb19 said:
You probably need to move to the rom to the internal sd card. I thought you're able to add it to the external with the recent update but perhaps not
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the rom IS on the sd card, unless you mean the memory on the actual phone itself
ROMs go on the root of the internal memory (no folder)... drop it in sdcard/
Also, this was mentioned in Post 8, and in team whiskeys install guide. Please pay attention to details.
oh okay, this whole time I've been thinkin the sd card folder was the root folder. Well I have finally put obsidian with success and now I'm having a difficult time implementing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530. I have downloaded the zip file but I don't understand what "flash it through clockwork recovery" means. It kinda sounds like I should use something in rom manager but I'm not sure, I have tried to reboot into recovery through rom manager with no luck.
I've also tried using metamorph but when i choose the blackfroyo.zip file, it says that the file is invalid and that the theme control file could be missing. Am I doing something wrong here as well?
Thanks for all your help so far, I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy life to help an individual with (what may be to you) simple problems
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oh okay, this whole time I've been thinkin the sd card folder was the root folder. Well I have finally put obsidian with success and now I'm having a difficult time implementing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530. I have downloaded the zip file but I don't understand what "flash it through clockwork recovery" means. It kinda sounds like I should use something in rom manager but I'm not sure, I have tried to reboot into recovery through rom manager with no luck.
I've also tried using metamorph but when i choose the blackfroyo.zip file, it says that the file is invalid and that the theme control file could be missing. Am I doing something wrong here as well?
Thanks for all your help so far, I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy life to help an individual with (what may be to you) simple problems
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From where you are now. Make sure the zip file is in the internal sd card, Open rom manager go to install rom from sd card then choose the that file then click ok and CW will do its thing. Also this is only for Obsidian v4.2 and Auxura 2.05. Good luck! Also you should make a nandroid back up first just in case.
Hi,
I seem to be having bad luck with my android installs.
I have an HD2 running the excellent Duttys ML v6 WWE rom with 2.15.50.14 radio.
I've added a variety of Android ROMS from Mdeejay and MDJ. They all work flawlessly for a few days. The only apps I added were Yahoo, quick settings and (for my sins) AngryBirds. Again, they all work OK.
Then after a few days, an update message might appear top left. If I install it, all is well until I reset the phone. Boots to windows, but when I tap Haret, it starts to load, then resets and loads windows again. Android is now dead and will not boot.
So now, I thought, ignore the updates. All good for a few days, until the battery went flat (as it does!). After charging it back up, again, the same problem, Android is dead, and just restarts to windows on booting Android.
To get Android back on the phone, I have to format the SD card, then copy everything across again. I have now done this 4 times due to Android messing up.
Has anyone else seen had this problem? I have had a look through the forum and can't find anything else similar.
They have just given me an HTC Desire as a work phone which is excellent, but I would really like to get my HD2 running Android reliably!
Thanks for your time, Chris.
Format card with this
Then run Android as normal (reading any build instructions) then dont be a dumbass and install official updates to a non-official build of android.
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Format card with this
Then run Android as normal (reading any build instructions) then dont be a dumbass and install official updates to a non-official build of android.
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I appreciate your help, but there is no need to be rude, we are not all HD2 gurus!
The only updates that have appeared are for apps that I have installed - angry birds for example. Not sure how this could kill an OS, be it official or otherwise.
Thanks for the SD formatter though. I will give this a go this morning and see how it goes...
whoops double post. damn ff.
Utterpiffle said:
I appreciate your help, but there is no need to be rude, we are not all HD2 gurus!
The only updates that have appeared are for apps that I have installed - angry birds for example. Not sure how this could kill an OS, be it official or otherwise.
Thanks for the SD formatter though. I will give this a go this morning and see how it goes...
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ahhh you are referring to "app" updates, you never said that in your OP, I assumed you was referring to OS updates of some kind.
Updating a app will not have broken your Android build, It was just a coincidence unless its a app that affects system files maybe.
Ok the installation is very complicated (and probably will not work in a 2.2 phone but let's test anyway)
Do NOT try this if you're not experienced enough, if this works somebody else might prepare an easier update.zip file. I am not responsible for anything, this might set your phone into a bootloop, in that case you have to be smart enough to be able to remove the libs and apks you installed.
Download flashupdate.zip from the attachments.
Copy the folders from the zip file to your OO:s /system directory.
Then take the FlashPlugin.apk file from the zip file and place it onto your sd card.
Reboot your phone
Install the FlashPlayer.apk from the sd card, select replace application.
(You need to have a checkmark in install from unknown sources in the settings)
Reboot your phone.
The flash lite should be working in the default android browser (no opera),
check from the browser settings if plugins are enabled, try this site:
w ww .whatismyflash.co m
Write here what version number the site reports, if any.
These libraries were taken from the Samsung i5800, which has an armv6 processor and launched with Android 2.1, this is not dependant on htc frameworks like the flash lite on the legend and hero.
(and probably will not work in a 2.2 phone but let's test anyway)
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forgive me for asking, but how come this is inside a Froyo discussion?
I tried this method a long time ago and it didn't work. maybe it only works with the 2.1 browser.
I said probably, i just wanted to test the possibility, I don't own an optimus so i had no idea if it would work. It seems this is not possible, thanks for the replies.
Test with Optimus One with Prime v2.
Installer ok, browser don't crash but drill no flash...
I bet you also have to tell the browser that flash lite exists. IMO flash lite just sits there waiting to be called to work.
Actually it does. If you don't believe me, install Adobe Flash 10.1. Every time you visit a site containing flash the browser will exit (NOT force close).
This works similarly.
I saw someone say on the dev category that flash works with dolphin hd. Check the thread where they're talking about gingerbread
maybe flash works in gingerbread with dolphin i can prove that flash dosent work on dolphin on 2.2
but what i can say is that i can install flash on cm7 but it dosent work on the browser i did try alot flash movies but no one worked.
I tried CM7 too but I can't really test flash since I can't seem to get an IP address from our router, and the network I'm on does not have 3G or even GPRS
As soon as the dhcp issue is resolved, I'll test it out and report.
The only way to install flash on optimus one now is by installing the Eclair browser. anyone can do this? or port Eclair to our phones. Hahaha.
isn' that kinda like going backwards?
yes but it's good in a way that we get flash lite 3.1
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-flash-10-1-on-android-2-1-eclair-devices/
that maybe a solution for our phone to install 10.1 flash on our phone
I'm going to try again with mik_os' CM7 port. I've been reading reports of flash working If it doesn't, I'm flashing back to my old ROM until GPS is fixed
nope flash dosent work on gingerbread.
i did try it now for a multipletimes.
I've found something on the market called "MobileFlash". However, I don't think it installs a plugin on the browser. Go check it out
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I'm going to try again with mik_os' CM7 port. I've been reading reports of flash working If it doesn't, I'm flashing back to my old ROM until GPS is fixed
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what's this CM7 port? Is it for P500? Is it good?
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what's this CM7 port? Is it for P500? Is it good?
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nope still alpha gonna take 2 or 3 weeks maybe till good workin beta