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[Q] Switching to android

I am a linux fan and I am using Linux for a long time.I bought the HTC HD2. I saw some youtube videos about Android Froyo on HD2.I want to try it but they were showing that you have to put the file on the micro sd card and you have run it from there.My question is if I do it can I run windows mobile after a new boot ?or it will boot android for all time?I just don't want to let windows go because may be i will switch back.Can any one please help me?

Yes, you can easily get into winmo, every time you shutdown android you have to load winmo first and then use haret to load android, so no worries .

mlhazan said:
I am a linux fan and I am using Linux for a long time.I bought the HTC HD2. I saw some youtube videos about Android Froyo on HD2.I want to try it but they were showing that you have to put the file on the micro sd card and you have run it from there.My question is if I do it can I run windows mobile after a new boot ?or it will boot android for all time?I just don't want to let windows go because may be i will switch back.Can any one please help me?
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You can also get a boot loader from XDA and choose which you want to load at start up. windows or android...

HectiQ said:
Yes, you can easily get into winmo, every time you shutdown android you have to load winmo first and then use haret to load android, so no worries .
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Thanks for quick reply.Do you know which devices will not work on HTC HD2 if I run Android?Cause little confused here .Some people says wifi does not work ,some says camera does not work.Do you know actually what does not work?

That was a loooong time ago^^
Now, EVERYTHING WORKS, unless:
- You have an inappropriate Kernel (some still have issues, but the latest one works flawlessly)
- You have an inappropriate ROM (there's been reports on CM6 not being ok with all Kernels, hence the 1°)
- You have an "Exotic" rom (Desire HD, Desire Z...) : these aren't fully supported ATM
However, there are known issues with:
- Tethering, especially Wifi, it's not yet always 100% ok
- Kernels, they are all being tweaked, but IMHO, go for it, I don't boot WinMo anymore
- And other small annoyances, but that depends on your device, rom, kernel, etc etc etc
FOR YOUR CONCERN:
- Booting from an SD card is far from a flaw (to me) : Copy aside your data.img, and copy a build over it. You'll never loose your personal data by flashing again
- Hence this : Don't ask for "the best Android rom", all you'll have will be personal opinions, and may not suit you. Try them, it's damn easy, you won't loose your personal data, it's a matter of days
- Ask about the really important stuff : Kernels and Radio, and things like that, but AFTER getting through the other post and thread. Nothing more annoying than a "noob" (and we've ALL been through there, but...) that didn't (at least) try looking for himself.
->Try asking questions, starting with "I've been looking for this, found this, understood this, but need help about that" and you'll see how people will be grateful ^^

mlhazan said:
Thanks for quick reply.Do you know which devices will not work on HTC HD2 if I run Android?Cause little confused here .Some people says wifi does not work ,some says camera does not work.Do you know actually what does not work?
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To be honest, i just (finally) being able to install Froyo on my HD2, after a lot ROM changing, Radio ect....
I must say, is not really easy to finally find the perfect combination so u can use Froyo as your daily OS (at least for me)...but u will always got XDA, and from my opinion, all the hard work (flashing, changing rom/radio) is really worthed....
so far i dont have any problem running android on my HD2...
Sorry for my bad english....

[Q] Some (maybe) simple questions!

Hi, i have some questions for you guys
1: Are there something out there which makes me able to choose winmo or android when i boot up my phone?
2: If that exists, where is the newest version of android?? what should i install... i really wanna keep winmo on my phone cause i think it looks nice, its just a little buggy.. thats why i wanna try out android...
I have seen these "harret" android versions which you can boot on top of windows, but doesnt that just slow down the phone.. to having two OS's running???
THX, Qwak

qwak said:
Hi, i have some questions for you guys
1: Are there something out there which makes me able to choose winmo or android when i boot up my phone?
2: If that exists, where is the newest version of android?? what should i install... i really wanna keep winmo on my phone cause i think it looks nice, its just a little buggy.. thats why i wanna try out android...
I have seen these "harret" android versions which you can boot on top of windows, but doesnt that just slow down the phone.. to having two OS's running???
THX, Qwak
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It's the only way (for now) to boot your android, so yeah, there are several programs that allow you to choose between Winmo or Android at startup.
Newest version of android...well depends on what build you use. I suggest reading some more information on these boards to see what suits you best.

Haret doesn't run Android alongside Windows, it kicks Windows out of the phone's memory, and boots Android from the SD card. Android will run nice and fast.
As far as an app to choose which operating system you want to use upon booting up your device, Exceller bootlauncher is the way to go.
Just look in HD2 Android Developement forum, or do a search using the site's search function and keyword exceller, you're sure to find it.
Try a few different Android builds, they're all great, and Exceller will allow you to choose between different builds.
You just cant have them in folders named the same thing, so you may have to edit the startup.txt in your Android folders so that your rel_path corresponds with what you name your folder to.
Might sound confusing now, but once you get down to it, it'll seem simple

you write that it "kicks windows out"... just to be sure, windows will still be there right??

qwak said:
you write that it "kicks windows out"... just to be sure, windows will still be there right??
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yeah, windows will still be there... it never leaves you
what huggs mean is, that windows will not be running in the background. I will be "kicked out" of the memory.
When you reboot your Leo fom android - guess what - windows will load first again...
You'll see, it never leaves you

ok super nice!!
one last question: i have downloaded a version of android, but the file contains three folders: android, data_512, data_1024... is it nessesary to copy all three folder over??

qwak said:
ok super nice!!
one last question: i have downloaded a version of android, but the file contains three folders: android, data_512, data_1024... is it nessesary to copy all three folder over??
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No you don't have to, just copy the "Android" folder to sd card then choose either th data.img in one of the two folders ( copy the 1024's Data if you want 1GB of storage and copy the 512's data if you want 512 MB of storage) Have fun !
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Copy the data.img into the Android folder

hey again... just found some new questions:
i just found a guide on how to install android, and it seems that i have to flash my rom and change my radio.. i have heard about flashing roms before, but never really knew how it would affect my phone..
q1: will flashing rom (and radio) delete the os?
q2: can i always go back to my old rom/radio??

qwak said:
hey again... just found some new questions:
i just found a guide on how to install android, and it seems that i have to flash my rom and change my radio.. i have heard about flashing roms before, but never really knew how it would affect my phone..
q1: will flashing rom (and radio) delete the os?
Not really, as you're just replacing it
q2: can i always go back to my old rom/radio??
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yes you can, just write them down beforehand
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what do you mean with write them down? sry for my many questions

qwak said:
what do you mean with write them down? sry for my many questions
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np, I mean when you're booting your phone you can see some numbers on the bottom left, just write these numbers down, when you want to return to your original Radio/Rom just download the corresponding numbers from the Radio/ROM thread you can find at the ROM development section (But trust me, you would never want to return to your originals. as soon as you flash your new ones you'll find out that your previous were useless )

ok, i think i have one last question..
Will installing another rom/radio/android remove my warranty???

qwak said:
ok, i think i have one last question..
Will installing another rom/radio/android remove my warranty???
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Since you'll be needing HSPL for radio/rom flashing then yes. I'm not sure wether there is a way around it, but you may give SSPL a look, it doesn't void your warranty .

oh well.. it says i can just install the stock spl and it should be fine...

Android on SD setup

I received my HD2 yesterday and have spent most of lastnight and today reading thru the threads and other sites.. but i have used this forum in the past for my other phones and know i can find good links and tutorials here..
I found plenty of Android setup links and NAND information.. but i want to setup a dual boot. I have found that there are differnet ways to do this, one is installing Android on the SD and being able to just open the OS from my windows file manager. Then there is another method that allows you to select the OS when you boot up your phone.
Do both ways require me to flash the phone? Or is there a method to accomplish the dual boot without any mods to the windows OS portion? I am fine with running the Android OS from my file manager as i just want to get a feel for the OS and decide in the future what my main OS will be..
If there is a sticky thread that has all the steps for both methods that will be perfect, as most everything i read were just other threads other members have started. Also, what are the latest most stable files available today for this?
thanks..

cubangt said:
I received my HD2 yesterday and have spent most of lastnight and today reading thru the threads and other sites.. but i have used this forum in the past for my other phones and know i can find good links and tutorials here..
I found plenty of Android setup links and NAND information.. but i want to setup a dual boot. I have found that there are differnet ways to do this, one is installing Android on the SD and being able to just open the OS from my windows file manager. Then there is another method that allows you to select the OS when you boot up your phone.
Do both ways require me to flash the phone? Or is there a method to accomplish the dual boot without any mods to the windows OS portion? I am fine with running the Android OS from my file manager as i just want to get a feel for the OS and decide in the future what my main OS will be..
If there is a sticky thread that has all the steps for both methods that will be perfect, as most everything i read were just other threads other members have started. Also, what are the latest most stable files available today for this?
thanks..
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try the "search" feature !!

already tried thanks for it reply

Well so whats the problem? you already know the answer. Just download and setup AOSP on mSD and run it though file manager or do it via bootloader for RAM version. In your case I would SUGGEST you go flash your stock rom to custom rom if you want to heavily use it if not you can use custom WM rom specially designed for AOSP with alot of functions removed.
So go with dualboot WM6.5X(NAND) + AOSP(mSD) and see how you like the flavor before you switch to AOSP fully via NAND.

cubangt said:
already tried thanks for it reply
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Are you serious ?????
There are a whole bunch of people here on xda asking the same questions and we have noob guides !!
For SD Card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881958
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894423
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
PS: hit the thanks button below if this is what you wanted !!

Ive had no luck with dual booting, way too glitchy and I have no reason to keep winmo so I'm gonna go with hardSPL soon

cubangt said:
I received my HD2 yesterday and have spent most of lastnight and today reading thru the threads and other sites.. but i have used this forum in the past for my other phones and know i can find good links and tutorials here..
I found plenty of Android setup links and NAND information.. but i want to setup a dual boot. I have found that there are differnet ways to do this, one is installing Android on the SD and being able to just open the OS from my windows file manager. Then there is another method that allows you to select the OS when you boot up your phone.
Do both ways require me to flash the phone? Or is there a method to accomplish the dual boot without any mods to the windows OS portion? I am fine with running the Android OS from my file manager as i just want to get a feel for the OS and decide in the future what my main OS will be..
If there is a sticky thread that has all the steps for both methods that will be perfect, as most everything i read were just other threads other members have started. Also, what are the latest most stable files available today for this?
thanks..
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At the moment, the only real dual booting is available via Magldr, with WP7 on NAND and Android on SD. If you're not looking to try WP7 then forget about that. You just need to look into getting Android running from SD, booting from WM6.5, which is the way we were all doing it before Magldr and NAND builds came along.
All the info you need is in the HD2 Android SD Dev forum, and it's a lot simpler to get going than a NAND version, as it involves nothing but copying files and running a couple of exe in WM. You can then get a "bootloader" for WM that offers the choice of running Windows Mobile, or Android. (This isn't really a bootloader, as it's a Windows Mobile app, so Windows Mobile is already running. When you select to run Android, it dumps WM from the memory and loads Android instead. It's a bit of a blag to call it a bootloader!)
You may find this useful..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813434
Hope this helps mate

[Q] New here and got some questions.

Hi, I am new here and completely new when it comes to modifying phones.
I have a normal HTC HD2, not a T-Mobile one. I am running the default ROM but I would like to try out Android on it and have some questions. I have read through a fair amount of threads here, but there is so much information to process I thought I'd ask some questions:
1. Is it worth moving from default ROM to an Android build?
2. Can I roll back to my current ROM if I don't like Android.
3. NAND booting seem to work better and is more stable, yes/no?
4. Does everything work as it should o the Android ROMs?
5. What Android build should I go for?
I really appreciate any help I can get, thanks!

1_ it is entirely up to you. for me yes.
2_ yes, and it's extremely easy
3_ yes, waaaaayyy better
4_ yes. however gps could be a pain sometime
5_ again, entirely up to you. I would suggest any no-sense 2.0 (so desire HD/Z ports) as they need some work of the SD card. (i.e.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917590)
Android also has a future (and a good one )
WM does not

1. YES. I started with Android on my HTC Touch HD (HD1), at fiorst I ran it for fun as I really liked WM but then I started using Android more and more untill it became my primary OS for many reasons.
2. YES. You simply put the stock rom you want on your SD card, rename it to leoimg.nbh and then go into bootloader by holding Volume down while powering on.
Note: Also you dont need to flash Android to phone, You can instead choose to boot it via WM from SD card.
3. YES. Nand is much more stable then SD card and brings many advantages.
4. YES. 99.9%, Infact Android runs better on HD2 (with tweaks) then majority of native devices But this depends on what ROM you use.
5. Only you can answer that and its frowned upon to create topics asking what is the "best" or most "stable" rom simply because opinions are subjective and what is "best" or "stable" for you may not be for somebody else.
Your best option is to go and try some and see which you like best. The best/most fun part of all this is the learning and the playing with different builds
You should probably start of on something simple like the NexusHD2 Froyo 1.9G rom, play with that for a bit and then try other ones.

TheATHEiST said:
2. YES. You simply put the stock rom you want on your SD card, rename it to leoimg.nbh and then go into bootloader by holding Volume down while powering on.
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Is there a tutorial anywhere on how to do this?
Also thanks for the replies so far!

larzza said:
Is there a tutorial anywhere on how to do this?
Also thanks for the replies so far!
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You dont need a tutorial, Ive just told you how to do it
You will first need to flash HSPL to your phone if you want to flash a custom rom but should be able to flash a stock one without afaik, My HD2 hasnt been stock since the first day og purchase so cant remember exactly. Use search and search topic titles for the word "HSPL".
a) Choose your stock WinMo rom.
b) Rename the .nbh file to "leoimg.nbh"
c) Put it on root of SD card.
d) Power on phone while holding the Volume Down key.
e) Keep holding it until it loads into the flasher.
f) Follow instructions.

larzza said:
Hi, I am new here and completely new when it comes to modifying phones.
I have a normal HTC HD2, not a T-Mobile one. I am running the default ROM but I would like to try out Android on it and have some questions. I have read through a fair amount of threads here, but there is so much information to process I thought I'd ask some questions:
1. Is it worth moving from default ROM to an Android build?
2. Can I roll back to my current ROM if I don't like Android.
3. NAND booting seem to work better and is more stable, yes/no?
4. Does everything work as it should o the Android ROMs?
5. What Android build should I go for?
I really appreciate any help I can get, thanks!
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1. Its worth it. I dont say that Android is better than WinMo. Its different, try it and make your choice.
2. Yes you can, Put your HD" in bootloader mode, connect pc, run you winmo rom from HTC or any other rom.
3. Stablity wise I dont see huge differance, I use NAND for "direct" boot of my choice of android.
4. Yes it does..
5. I use AF403 DesireHD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907387 and it works well for me.
//D

andriod on the htc hd2 running great..But there one problem with my gps...any ideads on how to fix it...screeen just goes black and i gotta do a restart..Any ideas?

(Q) Dualbooting Help

Hi, I am quite new to the HD2, so I have a question that might sound dumb to the more experienced people reading this.
Is it possible to Dualboot WP7 and Android ? But it is not that simple, I want my phone to boot into android unless I choose WP7 instead, I currently have Android ICS on my nand so what I need is something like the SD method used to dualboot WM6.5 and Android, but the other way around and with WP7 instead of WM6.5
Thanks.

Seems like even if I wanted to singleboot WP7, I cannot, because I cannot even get a rom, all the links are broken, If any on you have a WP7.8 with all the good stuff and tweeks I probably want, please link it.

Hi Traysa, you can only boot wp7 from nand using magldr. magldr lets you choose which OS autostarts in bootsettings. So you would need to partition your sdcard and use an SD android build, or better, a NativeSd ROM.
Shame the links are down, have you checked the last few pages of the threads for re-upped links? What wp7 takes your fancy? I might have it on HDD.
Off to sleep now, night night.
Oh, and you will need an activation code for wp7, don't think Microsoft give them out now as wp7 is unsupported.

Yes, I did look for reups for about an hour, found none, I would like a WP7 rom that has lots of preinstalled apps, because WP7 is no longer supported and getting them might not be very easy. dont really care if its Mango or WP7.8, I just want it to work. And about the WP7 activation key, how would I go about getting one ?
Thanks
edit: Forgot to add, I dont want to install wm6.5, i want to go straight from android to WP7, if at all possible.
The one you say you have ( WP7.8 pdaimatejam v8.8) should work, please mail it, or link it if you still have it.
Oh and pdaimatejam put this code out, it supposedly should work TP4CF-GK479-Q9Q4Q-WPYRP-7YR4D
heres another : CRFV7-X32H9-7QF2Y-CG239-V62YR

Off to work, will look later

After a **** ton of digging, I found a Hd2O ROM from a Dutch website, will try it.

No need for the rom anymore, the rom I found is working great, is it still possible to use the market ? When I try to make an account, it gives me a connection error, what do I do about that ? Also, I didn't use the key like you said, it never asked me to use a key.
Turns out I actually need a code, the two I found dont work. How do I get one ?

Okay, so WP7 is working perfectly, but I want Android too, how do I do that ?
I like either something cool like FroYo, I need an SD rom right ? Heres one,but the link is down ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518 ) I already have a few things on my wp7 installation, so I do NOT want to delete it all, so I will probably need to back it up, but 1. Will it work if I partition the SD card 2. will it even work with zune down ? If you have this rom, please post it

Traysa said:
Okay, so WP7 is working perfectly, but I want Android too, how do I do that ?
I like either something cool like FroYo, I need an SD rom right ? Heres one,but the link is down ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518 ) I already have a few things on my wp7 installation, so I do NOT want to delete it all, so I will probably need to back it up, but 1. Will it work if I partition the SD card 2. will it even work with zune down ? If you have this rom, please post it
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Hi again Traysa, sorry been really busy in RL lately and haven't had a chance to get on xda. How are you getting on?
I posted a working link at the end of the thread you quoted for the Froyo build, but it would still be too big to install on sdcard without re-partitioning. I am pretty sure that you would lose your stuff if you repartitioned.
But see this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41706158 for a way to boot android without repartitioning, it is also superRAM as the original froyo build, and works well as long as you have only a few apps.

Thank you, but I cannot get the ROM, because it was uploaded on DevHost, which I guess does not work any longer, if you still have the rom, would you put it on mediafire or send it as an attachment ? It is kinda sad, that so many HD2 ROMs got lost this way. I am also really surprised that you were able to get android on such a tiny amount of space.
Best regards
Traysa

Traysa said:
Thank you, but I cannot get the ROM, because it was uploaded on DevHost, which I guess does not work any longer, if you still have the rom, would you put it on mediafire or send it as an attachment ? It is kinda sad, that so many HD2 ROMs got lost this way. I am also really surprised that you were able to get android on such a tiny amount of space.
Best regards
Traysa
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here you go
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=818070582850507392
unzip it, put the cm7 folder in the fat16 partition using a card reader
download either the 48 or 64mb data image
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=746010030569968509
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673956719939834348
unzip it and place the data.ext4 file next to the system.ext4 file in cm7 folder on your sdcard
follow the instructions in the above thread to boot from magldr
report back please and good luck

Hi, this build is soo close to booting, but when I go to Ad SD and launch it, Portadroid starts porting is and then it reboots, any ideas ?
I also have an unrelated question, I recently started experimenting with the CM13 build for the HD2, but I cannot figure out, how to get files onit, when I plug it in, it shows that its an MP3 Player and I cannot put any files on it, when I put the SD card in my PC directly,I quickly figure out that Windows is not Linux and does not understand EXT4. Because the browser/the play store does not work, I cannot put any apps on it, so that its usable, I wanna put a veeeery lightweight web browser on it and aptoide, it that works.
PS : Thank you for helping me, it always makes my day !
EDIT : I figured the file transfer out, I had to switch to PTP in settings instead of MTP.