Have you seen lte's speeds? And the phone just is what ours should have been. Who's switching to verizon for this monster? Do you guys thing sprint will upgrade wimax's speeds or are they gona be crappy like their 3g?
Wimax maybe not as fast, but it's good enough really. Other than that, the Evo is a year older than the Thunderbolt, and in terms of speed and performance it's not too much better than our Evo. The issue with Wimax, is if your area has support. Toledo area here still does not.
Not me. I'm not going to that company and paying high prices for the thunderbolt. Sprint will come out with something comparable
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Not me. I'm not going to that company and paying high prices for the thunderbolt. Sprint will come out with something comparable
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Indeed. Just wait until next week to find out what Sprint will be unveiling. I'm certain it will be better than the Thunderbolt.
Love my evo, holding on to it until something truly amazing comes out. Maybe a dual core or lte sprint phone (since they're switching to lte anyway)
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Sprint/Wimax has its issues, definitely. I can't even speak on wimax because it isn't in my area and may never be.
The Thunderbolt is a nice phone, no doubt. The fact that it's on Verizon and has horrible battery life make it a non-option for me. It will take a lot more than minimal upgrades to make me switch carriers and pay a higher phone bill.
Not bashing the phone tho, it's a nice option for people already on Verizon and ready for an upgrade.
Are you kidding? Verizon got shafted with the Thunderbolt. They pretty much got the G2 without the physical keyboard and with a bigger screen. HTC shoot (aka EVO 3D) is probably going to be Sprint's next big phone this summer, and that this is going to rape on everything (except for the iPhone 5 if Apple puts the A5 in it). HTC shooter has a 2nd generation dual-core Snapdargon SoC which uses an Adreno 220 GPU. The Thunderbolt is a single core scorpion CPU with an Adreno 205 GPU, so basically a G2.
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Not me. I'm not going to that company and paying high prices for the thunderbolt. Sprint will come out with something comparable
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This is it in a nutshell.
Sprint: Meager 3G speed, decent 4G-Wimax speed where available. Somewhat spotty coverage. Slow rollout of Wimax to unserved and underserved areas. Uncertainty of whether the 4G network will remain Wimax or transition to LTE. Excellent service pricing. Unlimited data that fits the definition of unlimited.
Verizon: Moderate 3G speed, pretty fast LTE speed. Coverage pretty much everywhere. Proven speedy rollout of next-gen tech (proven by EVDO Rev. 0 then Rev. A rollouts). Concrete certainty that LTE is the only 4G tech on tap. Pricing that leaves one butthurt every month. Data packages (except for iPhone and Thunderbolt-LTE) that are not unlimited.
at&t: Excellent 3G speed, where available, and where not clogged with hoards of iPhone users; decently fast "4G" speed. Proven to lag behind in rollout of next-gen tech (where's LTE, why upgrade to [email protected]#[email protected]#+ when LTE is out?!), proven to **** the bed completely in upgrading backhaul and adding capacity to their oversold network. LTE announced and planned, but no rollout yet. Pricing that is somewhat sensible, yet still designed to extract every last dollar from every customer. Data packages built for your grandmother.
T-Mobile: Reasonable 3G speed, where you can get it. Very good 4G speed, in the 2-square-block area you can receive it. Lags behind everyone and everything in rollout of new technology. LTE? What's that? Pricing that is generally excellent, with many options for handset ownership and subsidy. Data packages ok except for the 90% of places that you can't get more than EDGE speeds.
I wish there were a carrier that had it all. The 3G speed of at&t without the capacity issues. Verizon's 4G speed and rollout schedule. Sprint's all-you-can-eat pricing without nickel and diming customers to death. Seems like such a carrier would have 80% of the market overnight and enough income to build out the network of our dreams.
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Are you kidding? Verizon got shafted with the Thunderbolt. They pretty much got the G2 without the physical keyboard and with a bigger screen. HTC shoot (aka EVO 3D) is probably going to be Sprint's next big phone this summer, and that this is going to rape on everything (except for the iPhone 5 if Apple puts the A5 in it). HTC shooter has a 2nd generation dual-core Snapdargon SoC which uses an Adreno 220 GPU. The Thunderbolt is a single core scorpion CPU with an Adreno 205 GPU, so basically a G2.
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Verizon is far from shafted, they are also getting the Droid Bionic - LTE, Tegra 2 (which looks to be faster than the dual core Snapdragon), huge battery, etc.
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Verizon is far from shafted, they are also getting the Droid Bionic - LTE, Tegra 2 (which looks to be faster than the dual core Snapdragon), huge battery, etc.
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He didn't say Verizon was completely screwed over, just with the Thunderbolt. I don't like Motorola products too much, but the Bionic is looking pretty good so far. Let's just hope they get blur either working great, or out of the way.
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Verizon is far from shafted, they are also getting the Droid Bionic - LTE, Tegra 2 (which looks to be faster than the dual core Snapdragon), huge battery, etc.
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I meant as far as getting the Thunderbolt. Obviously Verizon has better phones than Sprint, but if you compare HTC devices then Verizon definitely gets the shaft. Let's be realistic, compared to what's out there, the Thunderbolt is a very lack-luster device. The only nice thing about it is the LTE support. In every other way it's practically an EVO/Incredible with a slightly better GPU (so a G2).
I'm just going off of the recently leaked benchmarks for the HTC Shooter. On paper, the Adreno 220 is supposed to be faster than Tegra 2 and anything forthcoming with the exception of the A5 Apple uses in the iPad 2 (and maybe the iPhone 5?). And according to the leaked benchmarks the HTC Shooter out-performs the Atrix 4G, which is a Tegra 2 device, in openGL performance. The Shooter will also probably ship with Gingerbread out of the box, and boasts a 960x540 resolution screen
I'm very excited about the HTC Shooter!
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I meant as far as getting the Thunderbolt. Obviously Verizon has better phones than Sprint, but if you compare HTC devices then Verizon definitely gets the shaft. Let's be realistic, compared to what's out there, the Thunderbolt is a very lack-luster device. The only nice thing about it is the LTE support. In every other way it's practically an EVO/Incredible with a slightly better GPU (so a G2).
I'm just going off of the recently leaked benchmarks for the HTC Shooter. On paper, the Adreno 220 is supposed to be faster than Tegra 2 and anything forthcoming with the exception of the A5 Apple uses in the iPad 2 (and maybe the iPhone 5?). And according to the leaked benchmarks the HTC Shooter out-performs the Atrix 4G, which is a Tegra 2 device, in openGL performance. The Shooter will also probably ship with Gingerbread out of the box, and boasts a 960x540 resolution screen
I'm very excited about the HTC Shooter!
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We'll see. Tegra 2 is right there (beating it in some GPU benchmarks) and Tegra 3D is right around the corner. The newer OMAPs have a monster GPU too.
To me it really doesn't matter if verizon gets a phone thats twice as fast as the EVO, without an uncapped data plan I will never be going to Verizon.
Yea we been smoked except for the fact the evo is almost a yr old and this just came out. Ummmm ok.
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Have you seen lte's speeds? And the phone just is what ours should have been. Who's switching to verizon for this monster? Do you guys thing sprint will upgrade wimax's speeds or are they gona be crappy like their 3g?
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i personally dont switch carriers for a phone...
i can not afford the verizon pricing....
unlimited data is better than.. faster data speeds..
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This is it in a nutshell.
Sprint: Meager 3G speed, decent 4G-Wimax speed where available. Somewhat spotty coverage. Slow rollout of Wimax to unserved and underserved areas. Uncertainty of whether the 4G network will remain Wimax or transition to LTE. Excellent service pricing. Unlimited data that fits the definition of unlimited.
Verizon: Moderate 3G speed, pretty fast LTE speed. Coverage pretty much everywhere. Proven speedy rollout of next-gen tech (proven by EVDO Rev. 0 then Rev. A rollouts). Concrete certainty that LTE is the only 4G tech on tap. Pricing that leaves one butthurt every month. Data packages (except for iPhone and Thunderbolt-LTE) that are not unlimited.
at&t: Excellent 3G speed, where available, and where not clogged with hoards of iPhone users; decently fast "4G" speed. Proven to lag behind in rollout of next-gen tech (where's LTE, why upgrade to [email protected]#[email protected]#+ when LTE is out?!), proven to **** the bed completely in upgrading backhaul and adding capacity to their oversold network. LTE announced and planned, but no rollout yet. Pricing that is somewhat sensible, yet still designed to extract every last dollar from every customer. Data packages built for your grandmother.
T-Mobile: Reasonable 3G speed, where you can get it. Very good 4G speed, in the 2-square-block area you can receive it. Lags behind everyone and everything in rollout of new technology. LTE? What's that? Pricing that is generally excellent, with many options for handset ownership and subsidy. Data packages ok except for the 90% of places that you can't get more than EDGE speeds.
I wish there were a carrier that had it all. The 3G speed of at&t without the capacity issues. Verizon's 4G speed and rollout schedule. Sprint's all-you-can-eat pricing without nickel and diming customers to death. Seems like such a carrier would have 80% of the market overnight and enough income to build out the network of our dreams.
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Love the explanation but i disagree on some points
Verizon: Known for their service but their 3g is starting to lag like at&ts does.
Sprint: Very spotty but if your in an area that has wimax its still the slowest 4g. You can always go the boost mobile root with [ILLEGAL] changing the esn and paying 50 a month for unlimited everything.
AT&T: ok 3g speeds. So many dropped calls on my old iphones i think my record was 27 in a row.
TMobile: Fast 3g and 4g! service in most places not spotty, In NYC i get around 8mb/s. I pay $60 a month for unlimited everything no contract (simple mobile)
the thunderbolt is much better than the evo. updated ram, cpu, lcd, better network too. sprint's 3g & 4g suck in comparison but their prices trump verizons two fold.
im sure the nexus s & evo3d will be better than the thunderbolt.
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To me it really doesn't matter if verizon gets a phone thats twice as fast as the EVO, without an uncapped data plan I will never be going to Verizon.
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Uh verizons data isnt capped on smartphones.
Personally, I like the Thunderbolt, but the Evo 3D will be my winner. Hopefully my mom will let me get the one year update since its on her line, since she'll be happy with her Evo still. .
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the thunderbolt is much better than the evo. updated ram, cpu, lcd, better network too. sprint's 3g & 4g suck in comparison but their prices trump verizons two fold.
im sure the nexus s & evo3d will be better than the thunderbolt.
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After a year I could only hope the same manufacturer would be able to make a better product. Sprint works fine me here in Arlington.
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IS T-Mobile HAVING A HARD TIME....keeping up with technological advancements. Why would T-Mobile release the G2 with 800MHz, it should at least be the first 1.5 Ghz device? I understand that not everyone wants a high end device but with all of us early G1 adopters, moving to N1 or Mytouch devices you would think G2 would be the next generation WOW device. T-Mobile please try and stay ahead of the curve. Your plans, HSPA+, and (Google partnership) 1st Android phone has kept you competing with the BIG 3. You have to make sure your devices aren't obsolete before the are even released (Garmin Phone). Even if you form partnerships (HTC, Garmin, Motorola), you should encourage your partners to use the voices of the forums (XDA, T-mobile, etc.) to see what the early adopters want. The forums are the voices of the buyers. You have lost early G1 buyers to other carriers because you aren't staying ahead of technology. I'm a T-Mobile fan for life where else can you have 3 smart phones with unlimited everything 3g speeds for under $180.00. But I want to be able to buy a smart phone that paint my toenails cyanogen JK!
Most of us are changing phones every six months, because we want the latest greatest thing. We are not going to downgrade to G2 we need a phone that will draw us especially if we know Gingerbread will be warm for Christmas.
G1, MyTouch 3g, Nexus 1. Newest Cyanogen. XDA lurker
I think 800mhz is fine (doesn’t the iphone4 run at 800mhz)? Ive never had any speed issues with my nexus at 1ghz and would underclock it for more battery life... The overall usability of the device is more important than the cpu clockspeed... Ie I think the original droid with 500-600mhz cpu did better in some benchmarks than the nexus/hd2 at 1ghz because it had a better gpu.
I think it's an underclocked 1GHz Snapdragon so, Set CPU?
T-Mobile has more than 1 high-end HTC Phone on the horizon.
There's more where this is coming from. Patience, my friend.
You have specs on the g2?
This is all pure speculation until T-Mobile announces the actual hardware. Depending on the CPU/GPU used, clock speed might not be a reflection of actual performance. Much like Intel and AMD chips, it is no longer about pure MHz but efficiency and performance per clock cycle.
T-Mobile is the smallest nationwide carrier, so remember their development/operating budget might not be as drastic as the other 3 major players. This of course partially dictates how many OEMs they can seduce into producing a particular kind of phone for them. I understand T-Mobile needs awesome phones to attract new subscribers, but at the same time (unless it is an iPhone) it will be the quality of the network and pricing that will make people stick around.
I find it very had to believe that tmobile would allow their HSPA+ launch phone would not have a 1ghz snapdragon. Plus where have you gotten those specs from
While we're on the topic of rumors-
any of you heard the speculation surrounding that HTC Glacier?
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While we're on the topic of rumors-
any of you heard the speculation surrounding that HTC Glacier?
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yeah, its rumored to have a low clocked i7, and come pre-installed with Crysis 2.
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yeah, its rumored to have a low clocked i7, and come pre-installed with Crysis 2.
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I heard it makes a delicious chicken parmesan too.
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I heard it makes a delicious chicken parmesan too.
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Only on wifi
LOL
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I want something massive with a keyboard maybe Evo with keyboard, I would be in love. I'm thinking about jumping carriers though, it was between Sprint and Verizon but Verizon's plan are more expensive and sprint has 4g in my area. T-mobile just received 3g in my area and I don't even hit 1mbps. I wanna go to sprint to get Evo or Epic but I'm more of a HTC fan I have a little hatred for Samsung. I just have to pay off the myTouch on my line and by then the G2 will be out and maybe myTouch HD. If they don't seem nice I'm going to Sprint
here is a link
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/T-Mobile-G2-phone-p_4839.html
"The information for this phone is PRELIMINARY and could be incomplete or inaccurate."
Is that even possible?
Hummingbird Chipset
My guess would be that the Samsung Hummingbird chipset only supports 7.2 Mbps. Same as with the GSM Galaxy S series handsets.
many reasons why it may not be there. but you still get up to 7.2Mbps down which is very good.
Whoa your totally the 1st person to notice this and post about it......
To me, it doesn't matter. I live in a HSPA+ area and have never even come close to getting 7.2Mbps on a G2. Let alone HSPA+ speeds.
How many networks actually support those speeds anyways ?? I mean in reality not on paper. Besides, 7Mbps is enough for all mobile needs, a youtube 720p HD video averages around 2Mbps which is the highest bandwidth consuming task I can think of. Unless you are planning to tether it to a laptop and download huge files, which IMO is not a requirement for many users, since mobile data is pretty expensive.
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Whoa your totally the 1st person to notice this and post about it......
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lol Anyways whats the big deal. 99% person of the world is not on 4G yet
I know we wanted everything from this phone but its not to be
I don't care since in my country we don't even have 4G so that would be completely useless.
But I understand entirely you're complaining about it, they're expected to make progress not regression(but that's technology, constructers choose what we will get...).
It's true "4G" isn't prominent right now. I'm guessing the disappointment comes when you try to see Nexus S as a phone into 2011, and beyond. Dropping $529 dollars for a phone that won't be taking advantage of "4G" speeds which all carriers are moving toward and pushing for, and which handsets are already featuring, doesn't seem future-proof, and maybe even a step back. It doesn't live up to the Nexus branding.
Agreed. I've decided to stay with my Samsung Epic (which has a bad ESN that I bought for $300 and I am using as an Android touch), and wait it out. When phones that come out that are compare to the Galaxy S as how the Nexus One overshadowed the Hero, I'll probably upgrade. Not then ... it's not worth selling my current phone.
First a little background. I live in a Wimax market. In my neighborhood, I get Wimax speeds of 6.5mpbs/1.5 mbps. In the holes, I get 3G speeds of 1.3mpbs down.
I was out with my friend (in the city center a few miles away) and she had just gotten a shiny new iphone 4 on the AT&T network. She was unsure if her phone was getting "4G" speeds since the status bar only says "3G" so I whip out my Evo to show her SpeedTest and also to gloat over my high speeds. I get something like 2.2 mpbs down.
Meanwhile, she finds Speedtest in the App Market and loads it. Not only is the App way more polished than on the Evo, her speed is 5.5mpbs down!
Blew my mind. I'm pretty happy with my phone and I don't go around comparing. This random reality check made me wonder about all the marketing hype around labels like 3G and 4G. I know 4G is a label used to describe -- or hype -- a range of speeds across carriers. I figured 3g would be at least comparable and that certainly my 4G would be faster any 3G. Not.
You should of corrected her about her "4g" speeds.
the speedtest.net app for android tends to show the download and upload speed results as being far lower than what they really are. Try doing the tests on speakeasy.
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First a little background. I live in a Wimax market. In my neighborhood, I get Wimax speeds of 6.5mpbs/1.5 mbps. In the holes, I get 3G speeds of 1.3mpbs down.
I was out with my friend (in the city center a few miles away) and she had just gotten a shiny new iphone 4 on the AT&T network. She was unsure if her phone was getting "4G" speeds since the status bar only says "3G" so I whip out my Evo to show her SpeedTest and also to gloat over my high speeds. I get something like 2.2 mpbs down.
Meanwhile, she finds Speedtest in the App Market and loads it. Not only is the App way more polished than on the Evo, her speed is 5.5mpbs down!
Blew my mind. I'm pretty happy with my phone and I don't go around comparing. This random reality check made me wonder about all the marketing hype around labels like 3G and 4G. I know 4G is a label used to describe -- or hype -- a range of speeds across carriers. I figured 3g would be at least comparable and that certainly my 4G would be faster any 3G. Not.
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her 4g doesn't stand for 4g technology, just 4th generation of the iphone, sure AT&T has better 4g speeds then sprint, inwhich is what she has, why it would have hit that high though i can't tell you.
the iphone isn't as bad as some make it out to be. im actually in the market for a 4th gen ipod touch to jailbreak and play with. ill still keep my evo though. i love trying out new devices.
Iphone is a pretty great phonwen they upgraded their networki wasgetting speeds of 5.5-6.5 mbps and in my atrix not so fast lol like 3.5-4.5
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IPhone "4g" is just marketing deception, to make unaware potential customers think its a 4g phone like evo 4g, I've had to explain to several people it means 4th generation and does not have a 4g radio. Clever move by apple though.
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IPhone "4g" is just marketing deception, to make unaware potential customers think its a 4g phone like evo 4g, I've had to explain to several people it means 4th generation and does not have a 4g radio. Clever move by apple though.
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I wouldn't really call it a clever move. It did work out well for them, but that is just what they went with. I know there is the 3G, I'm not sure if #2 was the 2G but I'm guessing so. Lmao, on a side note I also know people who thought it meant 4 gigabyte.
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Is it even marketed as the iPhone 4G? I always hear it as the iPhone 4. Most people just assume 4G.
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Is it even marketed as the iPhone 4G? I always hear it as the iPhone 4. Most people just assume 4G.
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I've never heard anyone call the iPhone 4, iPhone 4g.
But try real world tests instead...both download sites instead.
I can put phone on 4G and it says 6600kbps down but doesn't download espn desktop say any faster than wifi (1500kbps).
Geez usually when im out and about I don't care about or have the time to worry about obscene download speeds, as long as my chronix radio app streams without interruption in the car and gym. At home, work, friends house and various other locations im connected to wifi.
First off everything I ever read about the iphone 4 calls it the iphone 4. I never read or heard iphone 4g till now. Here's some examples.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/iphone-4-review/
http://www.phonedog.com/products/apple-iphone-4-16gb-black/
The iphone4 on AT&T is a 3g phone with a 3g antenna. It's called 4 because it's the 4th generation.
1. Iphone (classic)
2. Iphone 3g (First iphone with 3g)
3. Iphone 3gs (upgraded 3g version)
4. Iphone 4 (4th generation)
Op the reason your girlfriend got better speeds with her Iphone is because it is running on AT&T's Hspa 3g network. Speed wise HSPA blows cdma out of the water. Plus you guys were probably in a HSPA+ area. HSPA+ is the so called "4g" that AT&T and T-Mobile are advertising. HSPA+ is basically 3(generation) technology on steroids. Wimax and LTE is new technology so therefore they should be consider the next or shall I say 4th generation tech.
Now the iphone 4 does not have a HSPA+ radio. But, with HSPA+ technology even older 3g radio's (HSPA) will benefit from the HSPA+ towers. So when you guys tested your phones with speedtest.net you were probably closer to an AT&T tower. Bad thing about WIMAX is the range of the towers aren't that great. But, if your close to one your in good shape.
P.S. Can't wait for evo 3d!
The only time an apple device is called "4g" is when its the 4th generation. That's how they identify their devices.
Example :
Ipod touch
ipod touch 2g
ipod touch 3g
ipod touch 4g
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The only time an apple device is called "4g" is when its the 4th generation. That's how they identify their devices.
Example :
Ipod touch
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ipod touch 3g
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What does 3gs stand for? 3rd generation surprise?
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What does 3gs stand for? 3rd generation surprise?
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I think the "S" stood for speed. The 3GS introduced a Cortex A8 based CPU (same generation as the EVO's Snapdragon).
Actually that makes sense. I realized why ppl call it 4g,I was just saying officially and unofficially I never heard the phrase
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Iphone is a pretty great phonwen they upgraded their networki wasgetting speeds of 5.5-6.5 mbps and in my atrix not so fast lol like 3.5-4.5
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You are nothing short of an ambassador of your service provider and fellow iPhone users....*sarcasm* go back to school. You need a serious lesson on spelling, grammar, punctuation and how not to be 10 years old.
The iPhone 4 is not compatible with HSPA+. Google it, I don't feel like it.
The explanation is that AT&T probably has better signal in that area than Sprint does. When I'm in downtown Columbus, I get 2-3mbps download speeds (on speedtest...from a chicago, IL server...hmmm). In one of the suburbs, like Gahanna, Westerville or Worthington, I routinely get 8-15mbps. Obviously, there's fewer people using those towers.
Here's that this tells me: there aren't as many AT&T subscribers in your area as there are Sprint users. And the Sprint users probably all own Epics or Evos.
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I think the "S" stood for speed. The 3GS introduced a Cortex A8 based CPU (same generation as the EVO's Snapdragon).
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That's only half right. The Snapdragon CPU isn't a Cortex A8. However, like cortex A8, it's based off the ARMV7 instruction set. The qualcomm cpu core is called Scorpion and is shown to be much better at doing productivity tasks than a cortex A8.
The more you know
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You are nothing short of an ambassador of your service provider and fellow iPhone users....*sarcasm* go back to school. You need a serious lesson on spelling, grammar, punctuation and how not to be 10 years old.
The iPhone 4 is not compatible with HSPA+. Google it, I don't feel like it.
The explanation is that AT&T probably has better signal in that area than Sprint does. When I'm in downtown Columbus, I get 2-3mbps download speeds (on speedtest...from a chicago, IL server...hmmm). In one of the suburbs, like Gahanna, Westerville or Worthington, I routinely get 8-15mbps. Obviously, there's fewer people using those towers.
Here's that this tells me: there aren't as many AT&T subscribers in your area as there are Sprint users. And the Sprint users probably all own Epics or Evos.
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Hrmmm Iphone4 does not have a HSPA+ radio like I said. But HSPA+ towers does improve speed with non hspa+ phones. Let's google.
http://www.tested.com/news/tested-t-mobiles-hspa-network-vs-traditional-3g/1190/
I made my statement off of actually sources, not limited to this.
What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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specs: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3742
4g: the 4g will be the same $10 charge we pay for the current wimax 4g
Speed: no one knows how good the lte will be yet but it will almost definitely be above 2mbps since you can get about 5mbps on the current 4g and lte is much better.
Coverage: they just started rolling out lte so it will be a while before it covers anything near what verizon has. but if the rumors are true then we should have lte just about anywhere we have 3g at some point in the future
hope this answers your questions
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What will the new evo 4g lte have spec wise? Also will 4g service be an extra charge? I just recently used a friends razor on verizon 4g network and its extremely fast, I was getting almost 2mb per second...I wonder how much coverage sprints 4glite will have and if it will be on par with verizon...since we really never had 4g on the first evo...
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For specs http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-4665.php visit here. In short, the screen on this phone has been voted by some, as the best on a smart phone yet; as well as the camera.
Id recommend on also do a comparison on 4g vs lte to see the true differences, but lte should bring a much faster network to us. In reality 2mb down is very slow for lte speeds, and in many areas it's common to get 15mb down or more.
Also, chances are that if you are not receiving 4g services currently, you will more than likely be one of the last ones to receive the lte service. LTE or not, this phone is definitely worth the upgrade on 3g alone.
Hope this helps you a bit.
Why is it def worth the upgrade for 3g alone? BTW I just started modding my evo 4g LoL maybe I should visit sprint & see how well the 4glite network is in my area...maybe wait til it goes full swing to 5mb like you said...also I just ordered exdended batteries 3 weeks ago!! lol
If you are still enjoying the EVO Og, and it is doing everything you need it to, there's nothing wrong with stick with it until more details emerge on the LTE network. For a lot of us, we've been flashing and modding since the phone first came out and it's time to move on.
A few big reasons to consider still switching over though are:
- Mod support - a large chunk of the top devs from OG Evo are making the switch, meaning, most of them will likely stop development on this phone.
- The battery life upgrade is going to make a huge difference, or at least we hope. Considering the fact that no one has one in hand yet, we don't have an accurate depiction of the actually battery life - but consider it safe to say that it will easily outlast the OG.
- Screen wise side-by-side it is night and day. Although OG screen isn't bad, a decent comparison is when you first made the switch from watching standard cable to hd (assuming you have).
- Processor is much, much, faster. This will allow for better game play, smooth transitions, and a better overall user experience.
I could literally write at least another 10 - 20 reasons on why to make the switch, but really no need. As I said, if you're still happy with the OG and don't feel the need to switch just yet, you likely will not miss out on much anyways.
Right I understand..Did they finally move the SD card location to the outside and not behind the damn battery...I hated that about the evo...When is the phone due to be out?
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If you are still enjoying the EVO Og, and it is doing everything you need it to, there's nothing wrong with stick with it until more details emerge on the LTE network. For a lot of us, we've been flashing and modding since the phone first came out and it's time to move on.
A few big reasons to consider still switching over though are:
- Mod support - a large chunk of the top devs from OG Evo are making the switch, meaning, most of them will likely stop development on this phone.
- The battery life upgrade is going to make a huge difference, or at least we hope. Considering the fact that no one has one in hand yet, we don't have an accurate depiction of the actually battery life - but consider it safe to say that it will easily outlast the OG.
- Screen wise side-by-side it is night and day. Although OG screen isn't bad, a decent comparison is when you first made the switch from watching standard cable to hd (assuming you have).
- Processor is much, much, faster. This will allow for better game play, smooth transitions, and a better overall user experience.
I could literally write at least another 10 - 20 reasons on why to make the switch, but really no need. As I said, if you're still happy with the OG and don't feel the need to switch just yet, you likely will not miss out on much anyways.
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Wondering how long I can keep it going. If it could rum ics like sense 1.0 it would hold it own. The devs are working hard. Hats off for the efforts. So funny I will run a rom with broken features when it is perfectly capable but yet we press forward for something better. Nothing wrong with that.
Come on little evo...
Come on devs...
And thank you for your hard work.
Next flash? OK...
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The speculation is that the phone will release on May 18th with pre-orders receiving them (possibly) early. And yes, the phone's micro-sd slot is no longer behind the battery, in fact, you will likely never see the battery ever unless you decide to take your's apart.
Yes. No need to worry. Get it. Now. It's in all our best interest. Do it.
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So we will not be able to upgrade the battery!? That sounds like a ****ty iphoney move...THat is one reason I hated the iphone among many others...But Im a power user & I have 3 spare batteries...I work offshore & my phone can only pull 1X so its constantly drawing massive amounts of power...I usually go thru 1 sprint 2600mah battery & about 50% of an anker 1700mah battery...2000mah is not going to cut it....
Also, will sprints lte network actually work & be widespread...I have fears of the lte network never even being available somewhat like the evo 4g...I never once got to use 4g on it...BTW verizon 4g is amazingly fast & very widespread, tested it out on a friends razor max
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So we will not be able to upgrade the battery!? That sounds like a ****ty iphoney move...THat is one reason I hated the iphone among many others...But Im a power user & I have 3 spare batteries...I work offshore & my phone can only pull 1X so its constantly drawing massive amounts of power...I usually go thru 1 sprint 2600mah battery & about 50% of an anker 1700mah battery...2000mah is not going to cut it....
Also, will sprints lte network actually work & be widespread...I have fears of the lte network never even being available somewhat like the evo 4g...I never once got to use 4g on it...BTW verizon 4g is amazingly fast & very widespread, tested it out on a friends razor max
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With Sense 4.0 and ICS in general, battery life should be amazing compared to our OG Evo. If I were you, wait a couple of months to see results of how battery life is from real world experience. People with the One X with the Quad core are reporting great battery life and their phones have a smaller battery (1800 mAh). The new Evo has a SoC, 28nm chip which will help wasting precious battery life and generate less heat, as well as its larger battery. Overall it seems to be a great phone with enough new quirks to help many upgrade from the OG for a better experience.
One thing that no one talks about is that at some point were expected to be able to ROAM on someones LTE network. (Most likely Verizon) We don't have that now because nobody is running WiMAX except Sprint. Good article about it on goodandevo.net
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Roam to verizons network?? How is that possible if EVO does not use SIM card...I thought to get on another carriers network you need their sim card...I almost jumped the gun due to the low price offered at wirefly..But after the promises of 4g on the first EVO never coming to light for me I Have decided to wait & see...My current evo does everything I need. Only gripe is the 4g that sprint promised which makes me think the same will happen with 4glite....Ive tried a razor max on verizons 4glte & it leaves sprint in the dust....Also, if the lte network is not up & working when the EVO lte is released & the evo lte has no working wimax then what network are you supposed to connect too? Sounds eerily similar to the EVO 4g launch
Verizon and Sprint phones, to the best of my knowledge stopped using SIM cards awhile ago. Sprint allows us to roam on Verizon when there's no Sprint coverage because Sprint signed a roaming agreement to use Verizon.
How were going to roam, I'm not 100% sure but I'm sure we will find out soon.
goodandevo.net/2012/03/here-is-sprints-future-lte-coverage-cap.html
Edit: this would be for the new EVO LTE, not the previous WiMAX versions. Just wanted to clarify.
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You won't be able to roam as sprints lte is at 1900mhz and Verizon is something totally different.
Should be a beast of a phone though. Lte is already live in a few cities and the LG viper lte is already out along with a Samsung lte phone.
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That's true but one can hope lol. But don't forget that Sprint is shutting down Nextels iDen network which will give us the 800 MHz frequency for better building penetration. At least we have that to look forward to in the future. I think Verizon is somewhere in the 700 MHz.
Maybe Sprint classifies some builder of LTE towers (sort of like ClearWire) are the future "roaming" areas that are the grey on the map from goodandevo.net?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/10/29/nexus-4-official-available-november-13th-starting-at-299/
Key specifications
Chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon™ S4 Pro processor with 1.5GHz Quad-Core Krait CPUs
Operating System: Android 4.2, Jelly Bean
Network: 3G (WCDMA), HSPA+
Display: 4.7-inch WXGA True HD IPS Plus (1280 x 768 pixels)
Memory: 8GB / 16GB
RAM: 2GB
Camera: 8.0MP rear / 1.3MP HD front
Battery: 2,100mAh Li-Polymer (embedded) / Talk time: 15.3 hours / Standby: 390 hours
Other: Wireless charging, NFC
Price: UNLOCKED - $299:8gb / $349:16gb ($199:16gb w/ 2yr T-Mobile contract)
Or, we can wait another 6 months or so for the SGS4
Only on GSM networks. As much as I admire Google's desire for open access (thus no carriers involved), I still think they should have released a CDMA version with LTE...I'm stuck on Sprint on a family plan for at least another year, and i have no idea what phone I can get now -__-
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Only on GSM networks. As much as I admire Google's desire for open access (thus no carriers involved), I still think they should have released a CDMA version with LTE...I'm stuck on Sprint on a family plan for at least another year, and i have no idea what phone I can get now -__-
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I read that the samsung galaxy nexus 2 is on its way, and as I mentioned in the OP, the sgs4...
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I read that the samsung galaxy nexus 2 is on its way, and as I mentioned in the OP, the sgs4...
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I'd heard that Galaxy Nexus 2 rumor/leak was fake (it included a microSD card, and very little modification from the current GNex)...and I'm not really willing to wait 6+ months with my OGEpic
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I'd heard that Galaxy Nexus 2 rumor/leak was fake (it included a microSD card, and very little modification from the current GNex)...and I'm not really willing to wait 6+ months with my OGEpic
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Why not? Is their something your epic can't do that these new phones can? Or are you one of the ones who needs the latest and greatest? Not that that is a bad thing, just curious as to why you're so anxious to get rid of a device that still functions perfectly even with the latest android version...
It's the unicorns man, sabotaging our technologies.
And as much as I would have liked them to make a CDMA/LTE model, Sprint and Verizon kind of were deserving of getting shafted due to how they handle things with manufacturers on their carrier. Removing their power in a not so literal way.
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It's the unicorns man, sabotaging our technologies.
And as much as I would have liked them to make a CDMA/LTE model, Sprint and Verizon kind of were deserving of getting shafted due to how they handle things with manufacturers on their carrier. Removing their power in a not so literal way.
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I love that it's unlocked, though. So we could put it on our carrier of choice, just no lte
J.ust A. R.eally V.ery I.ntelligent S.ystem
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Why not? Is their something your epic can't do that these new phones can? Or are you one of the ones who needs the latest and greatest? Not that that is a bad thing, just curious as to why you're so anxious to get rid of a device that still functions perfectly even with the latest android version...
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Nah, my epic is slowly falling apart (screen cracks, needs a new battery, among other things), and I don't have any need for a physical keyboard, meaning I don't need a phone this big.
And it's not really latest and greatest 2+ years after I got the device. Technology has moved further, and it'd be nice to have all the "comforts" of the phones of late 2012 - great, fast cameras, fast processor speeds, NFC, etc.
Again, I'm not anxious, I've had my upgrade available since July of this year, just wanting a good device worthy of an upgrade from the Epic, available on Sprint, which doesn't seem to be coming out any time soon.
I'm considering the N4. Sprint's service has been so "meh!" in my area for the last 6 years, that switching to Tmobile or a MVNO seems to be a nice idea. Here is an article that gives some insight as to why no LTE radio.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...s-explanation-and-why-it-sort-of-makes-sense/
While I know that everyone has a different experience with their network, a side by side of LTE and HSPA+ shows that for the majority of users, HSPA+ will be perfectly fine (although most people considering a Nexus phone are probably power users), but the T-Mobile HSPA+ here in Denver beats the crap out of my WiMax network. My nephew has the Galaxy S 4G (not the S II) and it consistently gets speeds 25-30% faster than my average WiMax speeds. With the Nexus 4 it bears mentioning the added processing speed of the faster processor and additional RAM. I think overall Google may have made the right choice excluding LTE as it keeps the cost of an unlocked phone down. Has anyone seen what the iPhone 5 goes for? Or the SGS III? That they are producing this for 50% or less of other premium phones cost is amazing. Also, the Nexus 4 is SEXY
Just a point of reference, it's not perfect, but it shows some of the HSPA+ potential.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia5iBxqsjW8
So a follow up on this, my friend on T-Mo with his SGS III just ran 6 speed tests for me of the HSPA+ network and his average DL in Denver was 21.73 Mbps and average UL was 2.36
Not as strong an upload as LTE, but the DL is about 5 times my average with WiMax and UL is pretty comparable.
LTE is a must feature, IMO. I like the fact that Google is sticking it to CDMA carriers, but it is a Pyrric victory. Nexus 4 sales will likely be sluggish, its specs notwithstanding. As for me, I no longer have any patience with Sprint (and its NetworkVision promises), and Epic, for all the wonderful dev effort, just isn't meant to run JB very well and now feels very dated when it comes to processing power and RAM. Going to get a VZW S3 in a few weeks.
There is now Sprint LTE in my area so I am rather anxious to upgrade. It is really too bad that the Nexus 4 is not going to be on Sprint and the Optimus G has less than stellar battery life and no removable battery/sd card, I guess even if the Nexus 4 was on Sprint it'd have the same downfalls.
If the SIII had the internals of the Note 2 (including the non-pentile screen), it'd be perfect.
N4 16GB ($350) + T-Mobile plan ($30 no contract) = FTW
Cannot resist that deal even with my Epic + SERO plan ($60)
Done with all this 4G/WiMax/LTE hype when in reality I hardly even use those speeds given the current coverage limitations.