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Is it worth going from stock to MoDaCo?

Hello-
First off, please excuse my n00bness - I'm from the world of Windows Mobile hacking, and this Android stuff is really confusing me.
I've been tolerating stock for a while, but the slowness is really getting to me - today I clocked my Hero at 12 seconds to wake up from standby, which is just unacceptable. I'd like to know if there are any significant speed benefits to going from stock to the latest MoDaCo rom? Are there any downsides? I read the post over at modaco.com, but couldn't see any "known issues".
Thanks for any input,
TM

Take the plunge.

I went from stock to Fresh and overlayed Modaco. My uptime shot to 90%, 80% and stuck at 70%.
I reflashed to Stock then back to Modaco. I am now at around 15% uptime. I removed the bloatware from Sprint and LOVE the speed of this phone now. Its what I expected when I bought it.

I have no doubt that you'll see a speed increase with Modaco. Especially if you remove the sprint apps once you load Modaco.

Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.

it's worth it to switch to any custom rom. bluetooth is just something thats messed up with our 1.5 builds.

ffolkes said:
Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.
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you will notice a big difference switching to modaco 2.2... and im not experiencing any BT issues at all... matter or fact, im not experiencing ANY issues with anything using this rom...

Heck, anything is better than stock.

especially since we have a custom kernel now its definitely worth it to go to any custom rom, especially modaco 2.2

Im using fresh. I used the kitchen to root my phone and installed 1.1. No problems so far except that the voice recorder app keep crashing for some reason. I did an upgrade without wiping though so that might be my problem.
Its a lot faster and the tether app is awesome!

Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?

I ran stok for about 6 hours and decided that I didnt pay that much money for a smart phone that was that slow.
I flashed Fresh 1.0 to start and I have tried just about all the roms that are out there. Including modaco 2.2 and it may just be that I started with fresh but I always seem to go back to it over the rest, and add onto that the modaco kernel with compcache and then doing the config tweak found here my phone just flies now.
I now have it set to where I feel a phone at this price point should be to start.
edit: to remove the apps follow the instructions found here

ffolkes said:
Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?
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Use the Fresh Kitchen to pull any you don't want.

You know what? I've flashed MoDaCo's ROM before, but it was just too much like stock (except for the obvious speed increases). I flashed Fresh 1.1, and loved it because it had the speed of MoDaCo's, plus the Espresso UI. Then I recently flashed Gumbo Kernel to my phone, and omgwtfzorz my phone is RIDICULOUSLY fast. Not noticeably, but RIDICULOUSLY. I can't believe you've been living with stock for this long >.< Custom ROM's and kernels are necessary for this phone haha.

I went back to stock rom, for now..

The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.

good for you. ive been with win mo since 2002 and i IMMEDIATELY customize/reg hack those devices as they needed it.. the touch pro2 was the first handset i really didnt need to hack into.. it was built pretty good for me and my lifestyle...
the evo... i see no reason to hack into it at this time. with the way linux manages the RAM and programs under the hood, there is no need in MY case to do anything... it runs just great stock.
so bravo to you sir for going against the grain and staying pretty much stock..

kthejoker20 said:
The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
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if that makes you happy go for it ! but i have to ask why's it slowing things down for you ? the flipz Dc rom is fast has hell for me any ways

kthejoker20 said:
The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
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I have to agree.

I use the stock with root rom the only difference is root permissions theres no lag or increased battery drain on my evo
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide

Use odexed damagecontrol rom and set dconfig to equal battery and performance. Tell me that dieabt compare. You can set to battery saver and easily double battery lif too
I think deodexed roms are slower even tho ppl say no they feel it to me

Custom ROMs beat the pants off the stock ROM at everything. Your loss.
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The stock rom was terribad slow compared to everything else I tried.
I don't see how you came to these results.
Also, HTC Sense is the cancer killing Android.

kthejoker20 said:
The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
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I don't know what you're doing wrong but I couldn't agree less. That stock rom is a sloppy bloat-ware filled lag fest.
The source may be for another phone but it's for an identical platform. Sure, there is some slightly different hardware but that's mostly taken care of in the board files so far as I understand it.
Either way, take this anecdotal evidence as you will but I first flashed Fresh 0.2. Things got smoother and snappier. More free memory, longer lasting battery, more responsive interface. Then I tried out various Froyos. All very faster, awesome performance. That 30fps/screenlag problem seems more apparent when the OS is hauling that much ass, but no big deal. I tried froyo with a low-voltage OC kernel and put it up to 1.2ghz min/max with screen on, and 128mhz min/max screen off. The performance was amazing and the battery life was even better than ever. Given my moderate usage pattern I could have easily taken this 'charge daily' phone and made it a 'charge every other day' phone. Bugless Beast was also really fast and relatively battery sipping for me.
I don't know where you are coming from man, but all of the hard work from all of the devs here has had immediate positive impact on every aspect of my Evo experience...sure, there are a couple experimental hacks that make some strange **** happen, but it's usually pretty obvious what those are and why.
Now I just put Fresh 0.3 on last night, the performance is top notch. The battery life seemed to drain rather quickly but I also left the 55fps Nova screen hack on all night to test it out, which I haven't been doing. So today I charged to 100% with the stock kernel, wiped the battery stats and I'm going to see how that works. Worst-case scenario it's something in fresh 0.3 and I'll just continue to bounce between baked desert, fresh 0.2 and BB4.
Either you are doing it wrong or there is actually something hardware-wrong with your phone.
Try again man, it works great for me.

i'm still stock myself but i do have root with unrevoked. i don't have a need to use a custom rom yet and i am definately waiting until froyo 2.2 comes before i do as that will be a game changer... i came from a at&t tilt that had a custom winmo 6.5 rom and the evo blows it out of the water, so i am enjoying my stock evo at the moment...
nothing wrong with flashing though to a different rom, its whatever floats your boat, some people flash as soon as they can, others wait and some never do... choice is great...

IceCreaMan said:
nothing wrong with flashing though to a different rom, its whatever floats your boat, some people flash as soon as they can, others wait and some never do... choice is great...
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I rooted mine in the Radio Shack parking lot at 6am, lol.
But I agree with you, do what works best for you.

[Q] HTC HD2 running android.

So, i have a htc hd2 running on android and i love it.
However, when lock my phone using the end call button or something.
I would look back at it after a while and the screen will stay black.
I try pressing the keys and nothing happens.
When i call the phone, it rings but i can't use the touch screen or see it.
It happens quite frequently. The android i have is darkstone froyo.
So it works but pretty frequently, the screen would go off and stay black.
What do i do?

Unfortunately threads like this are completely pointless unless you were to elaborate on which version of HD2 you have, which RADIO you have, which build you have, the current zImage, which Windows ROM you have.....

imtimduh said:
So, i have a htc hd2 running on android and i love it.
However, when lock my phone using the end call button or something.
I would look back at it after a while and the screen will stay black.
I try pressing the keys and nothing happens.
When i call the phone, it rings but i can't use the touch screen or see it.
It happens quite frequently. The android i have is darkstone froyo.
So it works but pretty frequently, the screen would go off and stay black.
What do i do?
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I wanted to see if Android would work on my HD2 before flashing a rom and changing my phone but I have this same problem as well.
I boot up Android and eventually I put the phone to sleep with the end call button and I can see the screen goes black but I can tell the backlight is still on. Then I try to unlock my phone and it never wakes up no matter which buttons I press. I eventually have to take out the battery to reset the phone back to windows mobile
Then again... I am also just running the U.S. T-mobile version with stock windows mobile 6.5 out of the box with no flashed rom with radio version 2.10.50.26
I will be looking over the sticky thread and doing the full conversion today but if anyone knows why it does this I would like to know so it doesnt happen even after I do it the correct way.

ooops. accidently replied by accident.

Same problem here.. I'm using chuckydroidrom, shubcraft 1.5 , radio 2.10.50.26 , have tried almost all the builds, radio versions, but result the same... would really like to know if anyone else has the same problem.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Same problem here. I tried on two hd2 phones. Everything is works fine but i cant end a call because the phone freezing. I'm using 2.15.50.14 radio and magldr113.

I gave up on the sd androids and went with a nand build, much more stable much better battery! Research builds READ THE POST and find one folks have the least trouble with.
I am currently using Motoman234's Moto-Mytouch4G V3.3 based on Iced Glacier by teamsilence. Shear brilliance in my opinion! i have tmous as well this nand for me is flawless. Everything works great and my battery will easily last the day. I had been using Darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 but the battery drain was murder. Great build beautiful and feature packed but not usable for me due to enormous battery drain. Ya installing them takes more (install hspl then magldr, then clockwork mod THEN the nand) but well worth the effort plus once all that is done you can change builds easily.

so far the core Droid series is great the v1.4 is fast and stable!! i can get up to 2500 on quadrant scores love it so much

pburstrom said:
I gave up on the sd androids and went with a nand build, much more stable much better battery! Research builds READ THE POST and find one folks have the least trouble with.
I am currently using Motoman234's Moto-Mytouch4G V3.3 based on Iced Glacier by teamsilence. Shear brilliance in my opinion! i have tmous as well this nand for me is flawless. Everything works great and my battery will easily last the day. I had been using Darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 but the battery drain was murder. Great build beautiful and feature packed but not usable for me due to enormous battery drain. Ya installing them takes more (install hspl then magldr, then clockwork mod THEN the nand) but well worth the effort plus once all that is done you can change builds easily.
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Actually, if you know what you're doing and make sure there's not anything unnecessarily draining your battery, SD builds and NAND builds have pretty much the same battery life. You may be able to get slightly better battery with nand, but not a noticeable amount. I get 3-6ma battery drain on standby with most SD builds I've used. Performance isn't much different with SD builds, either. Main pros of using NAND is you can use clockwork recovery and can change SD cards while using android. If you're not going to use winmo or wp7, you might as well use NAND android, but if you still use winmo or wp7, it's probably not worth losing those for the small bonuses you get with NAND.
I used NAND android for a month when it was first released, but I'm back to SD builds because I have WP7 on my NAND... and I can notice no difference in the performance and battery life.

I am using a SD build and have no problems with it. As long as you're smart with it you will be fine.
To answer the op's question, I would upgrade your radio first. It's too low of a version.
Second, what rom are you using?

naturesbless said:
I am using a SD build and have no problems with it. As long as you're smart with it you will be fine.
To answer the op's question, I would upgrade your radio first. It's too low of a version.
Second, what rom are you using?
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Your do realize this thread is about 6 months old

Upgrade your radio its solving your problem.. just try that trust me it works ...
HD2 TMOUSA
rom : TyphoonCyanogenMod 7
radio: 2.15.50.14
LINTEAM LEADER(gpu dev)

It was near the top of my unread threads page? Somebody replied to it, not me and I found that nobody answered the op and were instead discussing the pro/cons of NAND vs SD.
Sorry that I didn't check the date of the thread before posting.

zarathustrax said:
Actually, if you know what you're doing and make sure there's not anything unnecessarily draining your battery, SD builds and NAND builds have pretty much the same battery life. You may be able to get slightly better battery with nand, but not a noticeable amount. I get 3-6ma battery drain on standby with most SD builds I've used. Performance isn't much different with SD builds, either. Main pros of using NAND is you can use clockwork recovery and can change SD cards while using android. If you're not going to use winmo or wp7, you might as well use NAND android, but if you still use winmo or wp7, it's probably not worth losing those for the small bonuses you get with NAND.
I used NAND android for a month when it was first released, but I'm back to SD builds because I have WP7 on my NAND... and I can notice no difference in the performance and battery life.
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While I agree SD is better if you want to keep windows I disagree strongly on the battery life, at least on the SD builds I used. I would shut down bg data, wifi, bluetooth, location, and data when it was not in use but still had horrible battery drain (50 to 60 ma sleeping) and could never make a full day with out a charge. Now wifi and bg data stays on always I seldom NEED a recharge most days I can get nearly 2 days out of my battery. I tried different "battery savers" to no avail, applied every patch the developers suggested and researched extensively.
IMO "Know what you're doing" is a rather obnoxious statement.

In my experience, it seems to depend on the build. It may seem trite, but there are tradeoffs in all the available builds and different people do fine on those that suck juice, because certain features they want are there. I like the SD versions because sometimes I need WinMo, and it's easy to move between them.

[Q] Help a fellow Epic user out please!

So I'm really struggling here. I hate using stock ROM's because the battery life really blows and they are slow.
I've flashed a number of custom ROM's that speed up the phone significantly and drastically improve battery life. The only problem is after a few days of use I almost always start to get intermittent problems like random reboots, force closes and texts not going through etc.
I always follow the install instructions to a "t" and I still get problems. I must be missing a step somewhere along the way or not fully understand the cons of running custom ROM's or something.
I'm at my wits end. At one time I thought it must be the phone so I swapped with Sprint but I still have the same problems.
Currently I am running Scrambled EGgs22 V7 and I love it (when it works). I've tried bonsai, urban roms, you name it. Its the same results with every one. They work fantastic at first and then slowly become unusable.
Is there anybody out there who has experienced something similar to this and can help me remedy?

Having journaling enabled does help with data corruption if you find yourself having to start over a lot due to force closes.
Are you under/overclocking and/or undervolting at all? IIRC, stock speeds are ~400/1000Mhz.

Sounds like journaling is youjr answer. Make sure it is enabled and never pull the battery without shutting the phone completely down..after the vibration.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Kafluke said:
So I'm really struggling here. I hate using stock ROM's because the battery life really blows and they are slow.
I've flashed a number of custom ROM's that speed up the phone significantly and drastically improve battery life. The only problem is after a few days of use I almost always start to get intermittent problems like random reboots, force closes and texts not going through etc.
I always follow the install instructions to a "t" and I still get problems. I must be missing a step somewhere along the way or not fully understand the cons of running custom ROM's or something.
I'm at my wits end. At one time I thought it must be the phone so I swapped with Sprint but I still have the same problems.
Currently I am running Scrambled EGgs22 V7 and I love it (when it works). I've tried bonsai, urban roms, you name it. Its the same results with every one. They work fantastic at first and then slowly become unusable.
Is there anybody out there who has experienced something similar to this and can help me remedy?
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Kafluke said:
So I'm really struggling here. I hate using stock ROM's because the battery life really blows and they are slow.
That's about the biggest lie over stock.. I started with a custom rom and it sucked the world's biggest donkey balls on battery life. It can last me the whole day on EC05. Just gotta learn how to optimize bro.
SchizioPunk's Epic Experience 2.1 Eclair -> Odin to EC05 Froyo. Rooted. Bloatware Removed. Voodoo Sound V9 Module Loaded. TouchWiz4. Enjoying my Customized Stock Experience.
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Run 'Fix Permissions' from Rom Manager. That has solved FC problems for me in the past.

Have you tried reformatting your SD card? If it has gotten mucked up, I imagine that could start causing issues.

justppc said:
Run 'Fix Permissions' from Rom Manager. That has solved FC problems for me in the past.
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Dont forget clearing dalvik and cache does also. I'm assuming people think that'll erase their stuff but It doesn't.
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So how do I turn on journaling exactly?

Kafluke said:
So how do I turn on journaling exactly?
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Edit: there should be a zip file that came with Epicurean to enable journaling.
There I a zip file that you can flash. I'll look for it
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

I can't win. I enabled Journaling and my performance and speed went to crap. I guess I either have to suffer through the crappy stock rom or deal with force closes and random crapiness with a custom rom.

Kafluke said:
I can't win. I enabled Journaling and my performance and speed went to crap. I guess I either have to suffer through the crappy stock rom or deal with force closes and random crapiness with a custom rom.
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If you want to disable journaling then just make sure to never shutdown your phone improperly or drop it and keep good backups to restore from. I like to do a nand every 3 or 4 days then I can always do a restore advanced data only.
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kennyglass123 said:
If you want to disable journaling then just make sure to never shutdown your phone improperly or drop it and keep good backups to restore from. I like to do a nand every 3 or 4 days then I can always do a restore advanced data only.
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Are you serious? I don't ever drop my phone or shut it down improperly. I shouldn't have to back up my phone and restore twice a week in order to have a working device.I should be able to use this 400 dollar device without restoring it every fourth day or charging it twice a day.

Did you try the stock EG22 leak? Thats what I use, deodexed from decadence with the plus kernal from chris41g. It performs well and is the best battery life I ever had.

Kafluke said:
Are you serious? I don't ever drop my phone or shut it down improperly. I shouldn't have to back up my phone and restore twice a week in order to have a working device.I should be able to use this 400 dollar device without restoring it every fourth day or charging it twice a day.
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True, that is why your $400 device comes with stock ROMs that are RFS so none of these FCs happen unless a third party app is written poorly. If you run custom ROMs these are the chances and prices you pay.
A $2000 computer still requires regular backups for the very same reason.

Kafluke said:
Are you serious? I don't ever drop my phone or shut it down improperly. I shouldn't have to back up my phone and restore twice a week in order to have a working device.I should be able to use this 400 dollar device without restoring it every fourth day or charging it twice a day.
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BUT! Your forgetting something: you paid $400 for a phone
which Sammy provided to you via the vender of your choice with a STOCK ROM preloaded which works that way they have wanted.
Now from the moment you came over to the dark side and preloaded a rom there are good things and bad things that come with the package and you can't blame sammy for them.
Also, this is the world of trial and error: what may work fine for 500 phones will not work sometimes with yours. Every part of your phone though it could of been made the same day and from the same batch of my phone, are different and this will make you have different results.
Keep that in mind, your in a world that pose much risk to your device, but that's the fun part! Taking the risk and rolling with it!
Sent from an Epic with 4G

I am running SFR 1.2 with journaling on and can get all day with 3 to 4 hours screen on time , no force closes or any problems and all the smooth and fast goodness that comes with the rom.
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megabiteg said:
BUT! Your forgetting something: you paid $400 for a phone
which Sammy provided to you via the vender of your choice with a STOCK ROM preloaded which works that way they have wanted.
Now from the moment you came over to the dark side and preloaded a rom there are good things and bad things that come with the package and you can't blame sammy for them.
Also, this is the world of trial and error: what may work fine for 500 phones will not work sometimes with yours. Every part of your phone though it could of been made the same day and from the same batch of my phone, are different and this will make you have different results.
Keep that in mind, your in a world that pose much risk to your device, but that's the fun part! Taking the risk and rolling with it!
Sent from an Epic with 4G
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I don't have any problems with the stock rom. I'd love to have a stock rom that doesn't blow on battery life.
I understand that there are risks and pros and cons with custom roms but I can't seem to get a custom rom that is stable in any way shape or form. I assume that its my fault because I don't see anybody else having the same problems.
I guess I'm just looking for some help in getting a "half decent" custom rom experience but I can't even get that far. Without fail, every time I load a custom rom I get force closes and random issues. Then I go back to stock rom and I'm charging after two hours of use. I can't win.
@mark8503 I'll give that stock EG22 leak a shot and see what happens.
Thank you for everyone's help!

@mark8503
I assuming this is the stock rom you speak of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183558
and this is the kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185221
Please confirm.

IMO, if turning journaling on slowed down your phone enough for you to notice, something went wrong
I've run the on and off zips, and the difference is hard to see
Also, since RFS has a journal feature, I can't see how EXT4 with journaling on would be slower, all other factors being the same
You want stable and solid, ODIN an EC05 modem, install SRF 1.2, do you voltage setting, and call it a day
If you want the bleeding edge, you just have to accept you need precautions, as on the edge, **** happens.
Pick your poison and go with it
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5:50 pm and battery is awesome! So far so good, this deodexed stock EG22 is running great, no FC's, no random reboots and battery life is excellent with chris41gs kernel. I just hope I didn't jinx it.
I'll report back after a few days of use.

[MOD][UPDATE][5/20/12]26.13.04.19 Radio lib-ril/gps .so updater for CM7 based ROMs

FOR CM7 BASED ROMS
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IMPORTANT UPDATE: I have done some research on flashing radio images and found some interesting information. Apparently there are 2 files that pertain to radios in the RUU releases, a radio.img and a rcdata.img. We all have been flashing only the radio.img file but the rcdata.img contains further carrier information that directly relates to information in the build.prop file. I have put together a new 26.13.04.19 radio zip file that contains both the radio.img and the rcdata.img. The .img files were taken directly from the latest T-Mobile RUU release. This new radio/rcdata zip needs to be flashed through bootloader just like you flashed a radio in the past. As usual, you''ll need to rename the zip file to PC10IMG.zip before you reboot into bootloader. Check the MD5 Sum after you download the file to your sdcard to make sure it matches the following:
MD5 Sum: 360EA26286DEC39FC8008B266F470839
DOWNLOAD VISION_RADIO_RCDATA_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19.zip
MIRROR: http://www.mediafire.com/?vdecstne5uuvuxn
With the release of the latest T-Mobile update a new radio was included with the promise of better battery life. The following is from the T-Mobile support website.
On October 17, T-Mobile G2 devices will begin to receive an Over-The-Air (OTA) update to Android 2.3.4 / Software Version 2.16.531.5. The update will roll out in waves over the coming weeks.
The update provides the following improvements.
Improvements:
Google Security Patch
Google Skymap improvements
Battery life improvements
Data connection while roaming domestically
After flashing the new radio taken from the OTA listed above I really didn't notice any real improvements in battery life. After about a week using the new radio I decided to try matching the lib-ril .so files that were included in the OTA with my current installation of CM7. Almost immediately I noticed an improvement in battery life, wifi and data switching and slightly better data speeds over 4G. I have been using the matching files now for about 10 days and can say that I am getting the best battery life from my G2 since I've had it. I've been flashing CM7 nightlies since just about day one along with flashing radios etc and this is a noticeable change. I asked 2 others here in the forums to give matching lib-rils a try to see if they could confirm. Ditamae and Sino8r, who are also running CM7, have reported back to me that they too have noticed performance improvements, most notably in battery life.
From Ditamae: "Things are still looking good over here. The improvements are slight, but noticeable."
From Sino8r: "Okay, seems all is well with new libs. They have shown some promise, imo. Better battery, signal handoffs, pretty much what all we hoped for."
ATTENTION: I am not responsible if you brick your phone or if it starts a fire in your apartment by using this workaround! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
Procedure:
If you are not running the .19 radio, you can get it from the links above. If you need further flashing instructions get them from this thread.
Once you are running the .19 radio, download the updater and flash through recovery. This will update your radio ril and gps .so files.
Download Radio 26.13.04.19 Radio - ril and gps .so updater for CM7 based ROMShttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/17578272/CM7_26.13.04.19radio_ril_gps_so_updater.ziphttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/17578272/CM7_26.13.04.19radio_ril_gps_so_updater.ziphttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/17578272/CM7_26.13.04.19radio_ril_gps_so_updater.zip
MIRROR: http://www.mediafire.com/?i0ibe4mrvuqyxua
While you are in recovery, wipe your cache and dalvick cache and wipe the efs partitions by flashing the Vision EFS partion wipe tool.
Download EFS Partition Wipe Tool
Reboot your device and you're good to go.
NOTE: At first boot, it might take a little longer than usual for you to connect to your local towers since you've wiped your radio data and the efs partitions need to be re-populated with the new data. This also means you'll need to be outside and wait several minutes for a new gps lock as the new data is obtained from the satellites.
Don't forget to hit the thanks button if this works out for you!

Followed all your steps and will keep you posted.

Done as requested and will let you know my experience after a couple of days.

I wanna give this a try and will let you know how it goes. is the efs wipe tool different from the superwipe... i.e. it won't wipe all my data?

yogi2010 said:
I wanna give this a try and will let you know how it goes. is the efs wipe tool different from the superwipe... i.e. it won't wipe all my data?
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The efs wipe will only wipe the radio data. It won't touch your rom or sd card.
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EdKeys said:
The efs wipe will only wipe the radio data. It won't touch your rom or sd card.
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awesome, I figured as much but was just making sure got it all done and will see how it goes.... thanks EdKeys!

I will try this soon, especially if I see many people seeing improvements (it'd be nice to have facts, so to avoid placebo effects).
For those that have tried it: any improvements in GPS performance?

Just did the switch and have immediately noticed improved data speeds in Atlanta, Ga. I will report back in a few days about battery life. Running CM7.1 stable

tsubus said:
I will try this soon, especially if I see many people seeing improvements (it'd be nice to have facts, so to avoid placebo effects).
For those that have tried it: any improvements in GPS performance?
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I didn't notice any change in GPS performance. I'm using your ROM with the updated GPS driver already included in that, which I believe is the same gps.vision.so that was included in the 2.16.531.5 OTA mentioned above.

I have to say I am VERY surprised by the results. I did 3 speedtests before matching rils and 3 after. Results are about 2.5 to 3 times faster in downloads, and about twice in upload. It should be on the same server (according to Speedtest.net app), which makes this great. I will definitely include it in the next release, which at this point might be later today.
edit: a couple more tests brought the download speeds down a little, so it might have been a fluke before, but I still see improvements, just not as big. I will still include it in the ROM, thank you for pointing it out.
edit2: did the new radio roll out with a new gps.vision.so file too? It'd be nice to see if using the new lib gives improvements on gps too.

tsubus said:
I have to say I am VERY surprised by the results. I did 3 speedtests before matching rils and 3 after. Results are about 2.5 to 3 times faster in downloads, and about twice in upload. It should be on the same server (according to Speedtest.net app), which makes this great. I will definitely include it in the next release, which at this point might be later today.
edit: a couple more tests brought the download speeds down a little, so it might have been a fluke before, but I still see improvements, just not as big. I will still include it in the ROM, thank you for pointing it out.
edit2: did the new radio roll out with a new gps.vision.so file too? It'd be nice to see if using the new lib gives improvements on gps too.
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I'm not able to check right now but I believe it is the same version that you are currrently using for this radio in your ROM now....same as the .13 release. I'll try to get a copy of it later on today.
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I'll give it a shot as well. Oddly enough, my completely unscientific testing showed that my WiFi speeds seem to have improved with the new radio, but my "4G" speeds have actually suffered just a tiny bit. And they got *worse* after matching the RILs.
What I did was, with my existing radio (04.12), I ran the Speedtest.net app 3 times each for WiFi and "4G". Then, I installed the 04.19 radio, and did it again. Then once more after matching the RILs.
However, my data speeds have never been great here at the office, so I will do some more testing later, and see what I come up with.
Battery life is a little more subjective, depending on what I am doing with my phone, but I'll see what kind of "feel" I get after running it for a few days.

This fix my gps problems on miui and my signal, battery life, 4g more stable..
Before this i got 3 days try to find out how fix my gps, is was always stay searching for gps.
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dargocitfer said:
I'll give it a shot as well. Oddly enough, my completely unscientific testing showed that my WiFi speeds seem to have improved with the new radio, but my "4G" speeds have actually suffered just a tiny bit. And they got *worse* after matching the RILs.
What I did was, with my existing radio (04.12), I ran the Speedtest.net app 3 times each for WiFi and "4G". Then, I installed the 04.19 radio, and did it again. Then once more after matching the RILs.
However, my data speeds have never been great here at the office, so I will do some more testing later, and see what I come up with.
Battery life is a little more subjective, depending on what I am doing with my phone, but I'll see what kind of "feel" I get after running it for a few days.
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Give it a few more days before deciding any real conclusions. Its working for pretty much evryone. Pretty cool find, Ed! Thanks again!

dargocitfer said:
I'll give it a shot as well. Oddly enough, my completely unscientific testing showed that my WiFi speeds seem to have improved with the new radio, but my "4G" speeds have actually suffered just a tiny bit. And they got *worse* after matching the RILs.
What I did was, with my existing radio (04.12), I ran the Speedtest.net app 3 times each for WiFi and "4G". Then, I installed the 04.19 radio, and did it again. Then once more after matching the RILs.
However, my data speeds have never been great here at the office, so I will do some more testing later, and see what I come up with.
Battery life is a little more subjective, depending on what I am doing with my phone, but I'll see what kind of "feel" I get after running it for a few days.
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There is a link to the EFS wipe tool in the OP. Be sure to flash that after changing radios and/or rils. Just a suggestion in case you didn't do that yet.

still early days but seem to be noticing a slight improvement with my data connection (more h than 3g) and general reception, one area where there is no change is battery life(sceptical that radios affect batteries that much)
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I'm happy word is getting out... I switched back to the .30 libs for a small stretch and then flashed tsubus' update tonight (along with matching rils for .19... as you know he's matching them for radio .19 by default now, based on your testing), and this time the benefits appear even more distinct. Definitely getting slightly better download speeds and signal alternates faster and more efficiently between Wifi and H/3G. I'm going to check GPS with navigation tomorrow on a long drive. I'll report back, but I'm fairly certain it'll work just fine. I'll wipe battery stats tomorrow and monitor battery... but I kinda already know it's gonna be good. Really glad you brought this to my attention, Ed. Thank you.

Ditamae said:
I'm happy word is getting out... I switched back to the .30 libs for a small stretch and then flashed tsubus' update tonight (along with matching rils for .19... as you know he's matching them for radio .19 by default now, based on your testing), and this time the benefits appear even more distinct. Definitely getting slightly better download speeds and signal alternates faster and more efficiently between Wifi and H/3G. I'm going to check GPS with navigation tomorrow on a long drive. I'll report back, but I'm fairly certain it'll work just fine. I'll wipe battery stats tomorrow and monitor battery... but I kinda already know it's gonna be good. Really glad you brought this to my attention, Ed. Thank you.
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I agree... I never had any real gps issues with the exception of first lock in a few weeks without use. I ended up getting GPS Status (free app from market) and reseting gps data and redownloading it. Within 30 seconds, gps satellites are found and all is well. On rare occasions, I would get the notorious loss of signal and would have to toggle gps on or off and/or use good old GPS Status. Those were really minor compared to the horror stories I hear from some of our other HTC Vision users. I finally tried tsubus's idea of using the htc gps.so file and havent had any drop offs. There is still that first lock delay after a new flash or not using it for several weeks but thats normal and nothing GPS Status cant fix in mere seconds. I highly recommend using the gps lib file and gps status for those with gps issues. The radio lib files found here also help with battery life (not huge but a noticable difference) and call quality plus tower to cell handoffs. I was a cell tech (not the guy in the call center lol) for 5 years and am a pc tech and have been for 10 so I usually can tell when something works and is not a placebo effect
Also, Ed and Ditamae are two of the best guys we have here in the G2 section. Please, listen to them. You can trust about 99% of what they say... The other 1% is for their comedic effect

EdKeys said:
There is a link to the EFS wipe tool in the OP. Be sure to flash that after changing radios and/or rils. Just a suggestion in case you didn't do that yet.
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Yes, I followed your suggestions exactly. I haven't had any issues with the GPS (My sense of direction *sucks*, so my GPS gets used quite a bit... ), and I'm still testing the battery life. (Wiped battery stats yesterday and drained the battery to 0%, charged it overnight, and am testing it now.) We'll see how it turns out for me.

After doing these changes I was able to get almost 13 hours of battery life, which is about 5 more hours than I used to get. This is with medium to heavy usage, so I'm happy with this. I'll report back after this bakes for another week or so.