Is there someone who works with and designs plastics. - EVO Shift 4G General

This is an unusual post and request, I know, but if my idea could become a reality, it would make the shift even better.
I find it difficult to give up using the evo since I bought the extended battery and back cover at a corporate sprint store. I can get a full day out of one charge with maybe 40% battery left at bedtime. Supposedly the evo and shift use the same batteries and it would be awesome to use the bigger battery on the shift. The only problem is the battery cover. I lack the knowledge and skills to do it but I was trying to think of how it might be done. I would guess a mold would have to be done with the stock cover and modify it to extend enough for the thicker battery. I wonder if a 3d printer could create this? Unless it was mass produced, the cost would probably be very high.

I'm pretty sure that the terminals of the batteries are on different sides between the evo and the shift...although I could be wrong

I will check again when I get home but I thought I read they were the same. I think I may have looked at them and they might have been the same. I forget so I am not 100% sure.

Yeah the battery just has to flipped upside down to work
griffindy said:
I'm pretty sure that the terminals of the batteries are on different sides between the evo and the shift...although I could be wrong
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flip the battery over and it works just fine. Terminals match up, it's all in what you call "up" on the battery.
As far as extended cover, I tried to fabricate my own, didn't work out so well. Hahaha

I just checked by flipping the extended battery over and putting it into the shift. It will not work because the phone contacts are not touching the battery terminals. The thickness of the battery is the problem. Standard batteries will work via the flipping method but extended will not. Too bad!
I do not know what the two center terminals are used for but the positive and negative are in the right places. Depending on what the middle two do, it could work or not or f something up. I do not know and are not going to try.

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CRAP, one of my battery prongs are bent???

Well, you know how when you take your battery out, you see those 4 prongs that are suppose to touch the battery so they can conduct electricity and such, well one of them are bent! I don't know how this happened but now I just feel like the more I have a battery in there, the worse the actual prong gets. I afraid that it will break off and my phone won't be able to power on.
I doubt HTC will cover this :/
Will get pics, just don't know when. But, if it does break off, is it NEEDED, or can it still power on with a missing prong since it still has 3 left?
I'm not an electronics engineer but I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here and say yes, you probably need all the prongs that the phone shipped with in order for the phone to function properly.
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Yea am with Joemm.
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Probably not, its probably one positive, one negative and two extra grounding pins,
if I don't forget I will measure the pinouts on the battery when I get home for you
Bend it back. I have a slightly bent pin as well. As long as it's touching the terminal on the battery you have nothing to worry about.
I hope you remember lol.
And I want to bend it but I'm afraid that it'll break and I end up phoneless.
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I had that problem, bent it back, problem fixed never worried about it again

[Q] Battery went through the wash

Just want some advice really, I always keep a spare battery in my pocket, and accidently put some jeans through the wash with the battery in it! Noticed half way through, dried it off and now have it sitting in a bag of rice. There was also some green funk on the positive terminal that I wiped off.
So after a day two once it is dry, would it be safe to test it in the phone, or would it be best just to chuck it? Obviously I'd like not to have to buy a new one, but if there is a risk of damaging the phone then I'll just buy another one. So what do you think?
if its dry test it out. how else are you going to find out if its messed up or not lol
If you have a multimeter I'd check the voltages first, just because it's easy.
It's always the best to be sure before you try it on your phone.
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WarBird87 said:
if its dry test it out. how else are you going to find out if its messed up or not lol
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I would, but I'd like to know first if I could damage the phone before testing it out, as not worth risking the phone for the sake of a £15 battery.
Sh4d0w940 said:
If you have a multimeter I'd check the voltages first, just because it's easy.
It's always the best to be sure before you try it on your phone.
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That's a good idea, i know my flat mate has one, but he's away right now and don't really know how to use it, any suggestions on how it should be set up and what the expected output should be? It's one of the newer digital ones with the display up top and a large dial below. Thanks
There should be some settings on the meter. You want DC and auto if its an option else you want to set it low the output of the battery should be listed on the battery itself. It should be pretty low ie 1 - 4 volts maybe. Just a guess though
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Is it worth it? There is bound to be some contaminants inside the battery now, and worst case scenario it's going to ruin your £400 phone when it shorts out/blows up/voltage spikes.
Just get rid of the battery to a recycling place it, and buy a new one. You'll be sorry otherwise.
Did that about a week ago. My backup/password manager Blackberry Pearl died but my spare G2 battery still works fine.
But like anything, results may very.
I had everything on that pearl lost a lot of passwords!!!
Goodluck.
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Try to charge it if you have on of those dock type charger. I'd be more worried if it went through a full wash/dry cycle. Being submerged in warm soapy water OTOH is nothing to worry about. Its a sealed battery. However it did likely completely discharge itself, quickly. The fast discharge may have over heated it.
Do you wash your jeans cold, warm, or hot?

Phone power shuts off when tapped or bumped.

I just noticed a moment ago that when I tap my phone hard enough it turns off. For example sliding the kb open or setting it down on a table hard enough. I have to be real gentle with it now. And I have never been very rough with it its in great condition. I dropped it once on carpet a few months ago. But that's it. I have 2 batteries and I switch them out every other day. Could that have something to do with it? I really do not want to goto the sprint store and have the look at it because ill have to flash back to stock and deal with their lines and annoying staff. Anyone know what I can do to fix this issue?
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Is it possible that you thumped it hard enough to knock it unconscious? Just kidding, sounds like you have a short somewhere.
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screw that. flash it back to stock and take it in. i wouldnt be able to deal with that.
^^ I agree
However, take a look at your battery contacts. One of my 3 is noticeably bent "differently" but not necessarily broken than the other 2 (although it's NEVER lost contact even in a fall). Maybe it's not maintaining the tension it needs to keep the connection.
kycrop44 said:
I just noticed a moment ago that when I tap my phone hard enough it turns off. For example sliding the kb open or setting it down on a table hard enough. I have to be real gentle with it now. And I have never been very rough with it its in great condition. I dropped it once on carpet a few months ago. But that's it. I have 2 batteries and I switch them out every other day. Could that have something to do with it? I really do not want to goto the sprint store and have the look at it because ill have to flash back to stock and deal with their lines and annoying staff. Anyone know what I can do to fix this issue?
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Happens to me when I close the keyboard too hard so I put a piece of thin cardboard between the cover and battery to secure it even more and no more problem.
kennyglass123 said:
Happens to me when I close the keyboard too hard so I put a piece of thin cardboard between the cover and battery to secure it even more and no more problem.
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doesnt paper heat up the battery more? and i think the OP should place a claim on the phone (you should too). you people paid a lot for your phone and it should work (without putting cardboard)
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doesnt paper heat up the battery more? and i think the OP should place a claim on the phone (you should too). you people paid a lot for your phone and it should work (without putting cardboard)
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your right I did pay alot for this phone and it should work properly without ghetto rigging it. It actually stopped for now idk what did it, I tried a number of things including pressing the battery in harder and that may of solved it, but I bet it does it again one day. plus I wouldnt mind having a brand new one if thats what they would do to fix it lol
That happened to me a couple times, but it was the extended batteries and thus generic cover that doesn't fit well to begin with.
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doesnt paper heat up the battery more? and i think the OP should place a claim on the phone (you should too). you people paid a lot for your phone and it should work (without putting cardboard)
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Then don't cover the whole battery. Use a small strip runnin diagionaly and fasten it to back cover is it don't move around when u drop your phone again.
Try a little peice of paper in between the batt and the wall of batt hole.
Epoxy your battery in place.
Or u can stop abusing your phone.
Tell your phone your sorry..
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alexnaoumi said:
doesnt paper heat up the battery more? and i think the OP should place a claim on the phone (you should too). you people paid a lot for your phone and it should work (without putting cardboard)
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Not anymore than sitting on my hip. Paper is an insulator so actually would help in Florida sun. But my issue is a $21 extended battery and extended back, not stock. So a small piece of cardboard helps to keep it really tight. Also probably because I have dropped my phone a few times.
keith5039756827 said:
Then don't cover the whole battery. Use a small strip runnin diagionaly and fasten it to back cover is it don't move around when u drop your phone again.
Try a little peice of paper in between the batt and the wall of batt hole.
Epoxy your battery in place.
Or u can stop abusing your phone.
Tell your phone your sorry..
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LMAO!!!! Nice...think I will download a flowers jpg for my phone now.
My first epic did this. It's a manufacturing problem. I took it back and sprint replaced it. (I returned it the day after I bought it, though).
I have had this happen to me and all I did was flash a different rom. It seemed to be a had flash or the rom I was using. That is assuming you are rooted and running a custom rom. Give it a try. Flash something else and see if the problem goes away. Mine did.
I was on my way into the sprint store as I was restoring a different rom and after restoring i could not reproduce the power down when bumping or sliding keyboard. That's how I figured out it had to be the rom. I have not had it happen since, that was 5 months ago.
desire s turns off
Ive had my desire s for less than 2 months and ive had to leave it back for this reason. The slightest of taps to the bottom right corner and off it goes.
Estimated return time from the car phone warehouse is 1 month. whahahahah....
Mine does the same thing, bougt mine off ebay, esy fix I just took a very small piece of electrical tape, made it so its sticky on both sides and stuc it behind the battery
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I had this problem also. Mine was one of the three contacta on the phone broke. The brass contacts that touch the battery.
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kennyglass123 said:
But my issue is a $21 extended battery and extended back, not stock
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Same here! With the stock battery it works fine, but with the extended to hard of a jolt will reset it.

Nexus S 4g breakdown

for those interested out of boredom me and a co-worker decided to take apart his nexus s
so without further adu here is a step by step photo tutorial breakdown
break down continued
series two of the break down
Reserved for OP
all pieces broken down
I'm scared to take mines apart, haha. But it does look fun and interesting to find out what's inside.
Haha. Cool.
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As a Sprint Technician, this is by far my favorite thing to do. Even if it isn't necessary, I always dismantle phones and rebuild them just for the hell of it. Many times it'll often fix a lot of small glitches due to faulty assembly in the factory. (i.e.- touch screen bugs, dead keys on physical keyboard, speaker static, etc)
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I wouldn't mind learning on how to do that kinda things. I'm a full on techy person, but I don't have the experience on doing that. But I do learn quick though. I would be happy to be a sprint technician. Ha.
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I love how open this phone is. Standard #00 phillips screws, and no warranty sticker!
newalker91 said:
All Samsung phones are like that. Very easy to dismantle them and interchange parts. HTC phones are next in line for ease of modding, although it requires the star tip screwdriver which can be tricky to get your hands on. They do although use tamper dots on one screw to know if you opened it, but you can order those online and put it on a screw head to trick it. Sanyo use the triangle tip and quite frankly are made of **** parts so half the time something falls apart when opening it delicately. Motorola is kinda finicky. Blackberry and Palm you aren't even able to open without destroying something, they don't play nice.
Tip to keep your phone running well: open it every few months, use a stiff paintbrush and gently clean all exposed copper with rubbing alcohol and then use compressed air to dry it completely. This helps keep electricity flowing smoothly without interruption by corrosion. It can also prevent shorts and lower heat. Just don't turn it on with any alcohol still on it or you'll fry the phone and don't brush too hard and knock anything off.
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I work at an industrial supply company. We're the ones who ship the screws and tools to the manufacturers.
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shoot send me some tools heck It would make it alot easier to dismantle certain devices for break downs
HEY! How'd you get my mousepad??
Thanks for the pics though!
cybertang said:
shoot send me some tools heck It would make it alot easier to dismantle certain devices for break downs
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Let me know what you need, ill put in an order for 'em. 10% over cost.
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Story of my day everyday. As a corporate Sprint tech I take apart around 50+ phones a day.
It's become next to nothing to open any small electronic now...and a few big ones haha.
Sometimes I feel like I'm doing a tear down for liquid damage in my sleep.
I've done it for 7 years now and have been such a good harvester that I've kept my exchange rate down to 18% constant due to my efforts.
so.... did you see why people are having issues with signal?? is there a crappy antenna? etc.
tearing apart a sprint phone is easier than building lego's if you actually feel like doing it.
just don't tear the ribbon.
TheNexxuvas said:
Story of my day everyday. As a corporate Sprint tech I take apart around 50+ phones a day.
It's become next to nothing to open any small electronic now...and a few big ones haha.
Sometimes I feel like I'm doing a tear down for liquid damage in my sleep.
I've done it for 7 years now and have been such a good harvester that I've kept my exchange rate down to 18% constant due to my efforts.
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thats whats up! going 2 years strong here. 3rd party 50+ phone a day aswell down to 23% taking phones apart is like cake now too and it got me thinking i need to touchstone my nexus like i did my epic
now if only slate was more useful..
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Antenna is fine, just software bugs. Miscalculation of available signal causing the phone to think it doesn't have signal when it really does. There's a fix in the works already.
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do you know when it will hit the streets?
thanks!
ck
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I do everything within my power to harvest parts and build up a stock of pieces I need, but we can't do any micro-soldering and the damn Evo charging port effs up my exchange rate consistently. Can't harvest motherboards so bleh. A lot of the powercycling problems and such as well are caused by faulty circuits and once again cannot be fixed. Do you have any tips?
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None anymore, there was the old Palm circuit board switcharoo, but the newer models don't offer that. I harvest like a mad man though, even Pre sliders, pre earpieces on the top board/screen and things that many are too afraid to harvest (Blackberry tour/bold screens).
Soldering kits are being pulled from the stores too, since we've been scaled back to only soldering old pin charger ports (I still solder wires for earpieces and vibe motors) and those are now defunct.
If blackberry and htc hadn't screwed us over by taking away our soldering efforts with their models, we'd still be doing them today, but, thems the breaks. Hurts both techs and customers but maybe down the line they will rethink it and go with the soldering machines that are used at the warehouse to put new ports on. I'd dance a bit of a jig that day. And I absolutely hate the new standard mirco usb ports, absolutely too small and too fragile and they are on every phone now. Need to go back to mini usb, which was much sturdier. I haven't charged a phone on a cable in years. Cadex or Wall dock chargers for me.
Gives me better battery life, and since I always run 2 batteries I go to work everyday with a fully charged one. Can't beat it.
Well, is it possible to replace the wifi radio in my Nexus S 4G?? The low range and disconnects are killing me! I dont mind voiding my warranty.
d94 said:
thats whats up! going 2 years strong here. 3rd party 50+ phone a day aswell down to 23% taking phones apart is like cake now too and it got me thinking i need to touchstone my nexus like i did my epic
now if only slate was more useful..
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Ha! Slate my friend is garbage!!!! Lol
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Well, is it possible to replace the wifi radio in my Nexus S 4G?? The low range and disconnects are killing me! I dont mind voiding my warranty.
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Radios and chipsets are embedded into the circuit boards now, they aren't on a socket like CPU's on a computer motherboard, so no, sorry, that's not a removable/replaceable part.
Help
newalker91 said:
All Samsung phones are like that. Very easy to dismantle them and interchange parts. HTC phones are next in line for ease of modding, although it requires the star tip screwdriver which can be tricky to get your hands on. They do although use tamper dots on one screw to know if you opened it, but you can order those online and put it on a screw head to trick it. Sanyo use the triangle tip and quite frankly are made of **** parts so half the time something falls apart when opening it delicately. Motorola is kinda finicky. Blackberry and Palm you aren't even able to open without destroying something, they don't play nice.
Tip to keep your phone running well: open it every few months, use a stiff paintbrush and gently clean all exposed copper with rubbing alcohol and then use compressed air to dry it completely. This helps keep electricity flowing smoothly without interruption by corrosion. It can also prevent shorts and lower heat. Just don't turn it on with any alcohol still on it or you'll fry the phone and don't brush too hard and knock anything off.
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Seeing that you are a repairs technician for sprint, I was wondering if you would be able to help me with a micro USB problem on my nexus s 4g?

Good brand of extended battery for G2?

Anyone know if there are any that are actually worth it and don't begin degrading?
I've read a lot of reviews saying that most of them work for 1-2 weeks and then start to lose strength.
I'm looking for a reliable brand.
I have had my HTC Evo 4G 1800 mah batteries since the G2 came out. No degradation, minor label modification. Battery door fits fine.
I also have one, but I don't use it every day, just couple of times when going on a trip or traveling. I can easily tell it hold a lot more juice than original and the battery door is well made and has this soft touch, not a cheap plastic.
Also lately I began using external battery charger, the black one that plugs directly into the phone, no cables. I simply always have one in my bag.
the chichitec ones have been working good for me stock rom rooted. I'm getting about 18-20 hours or so depending on usage. The fastest I've been able to kill it is probably 7-9 hours of constant use with everything on, but that was intentional to see how fast i could kill it lol. Cost me like 18 buck on amazon, removed label clipped the ends and voila cover fits perfectly just tape on battery above microsd card holder so it wont short out.
killj0y said:
the chichitec ones have been working good for me stock rom rooted. I'm getting about 18-20 hours or so depending on usage. The fastest I've been able to kill it is probably 7-9 hours of constant use with everything on, but that was intentional to see how fast i could kill it lol. Cost me like 18 buck on amazon, removed label clipped the ends and voila cover fits perfectly just tape on battery above microsd card holder so it wont short out.
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What do you mean clip the ends and tap on battery above microsd holder? Does it not fit OTB? Can you use the original battery covery with it?
There is this tiny clip you snip for the g2 (the battery is meant for another htc model but it fits) and remove the plastic vinyl cover, after that it just fits with the stock cover. The problem is you need to make sure the bare metal battery does not ground out with the sd card holder. a simple piece of tape works well. Search chichitec on here and there are several threads and how to's.
i just ordered an evo 4g slim 2000mah...heres hoping i can make it fit!
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Good luck! I hope it does then I'll get one lmao! I'm getting about 20 hours moderate use on mine. On days i work and go to school and i don't use it at much I probably get more but i don't bother checking every 30 minutes like I did before. This new GB rom is waaaaay faster and better on battery life lol. My batteries were labeled as 1900 mah so not too much of a diff I think it'll fit...if not grind it down lol.
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Good luck! I hope it does then I'll get one lmao! I'm getting about 20 hours moderate use on mine. On days i work and go to school and i don't use it at much I probably get more but i don't bother checking every 30 minutes like I did before. This new GB rom is waaaaay faster and better on battery life lol. My batteries were labeled as 1900 mah so not too much of a diff I think it'll fit...if not grind it down lol.
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yea they were 14 bucks so ill give it a shot, i also ordered a galilio 1650mah thats made for the desire z for 8 bucks free shipping lol. so if the evo wont fit ill have a backup anyways. the stock lasts me about 18 hours on cm7 with horrible signal at work for 8 hours so its not too bad, a little more juice is always good tho
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Yea I hear ya! I'm not doing too bad at school where there is zero signal. Maybe 1 bar if your lucky. Only place I don't get 4G
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Yea I hear ya! I'm not doing too bad at school where there is zero signal. Maybe 1 bar if your lucky. Only place I don't get 4G
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Galilio?
I pay 20 $ for 2 x 2000 mah + charger for the 4g.
Its been 2 months since my purchase, and its hard to say if its better than the stock one. My use are so different days after days. But, one thing sure, its not worst than the oem.
You can see some interesting details here :
androidforums.com/evo-4g-accessories/149587-quick-seidio-galilio-oem-battery-compare . html
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i just ordered an evo 4g slim 2000mah...heres hoping i can make it fit!
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I was just wondering - did it fit?
and how is it?
I've had a Mugen 1800 battery in mine for a long while now, works great and no having to clip or modify or tape in any way. Between that and using the Green Power app I can easily get 2 days out of mine before charging.
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I was just wondering - did it fit?
and how is it?
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just got it about an hour ago actually, wont fit not without sanding it down, and to be honest it doesnt look very well fabricated after the sticker is off it. also since i read the post above on how its not really much better than the 4g stock battery im not gonna bother sanding it to make it fit. i have a 1650mah battery on its way as well which says its for the desire z, so it should fit perfectly, but ill let you guys know if it does in fact last longer than the stocker.
so to sum things up, the evo 4g slim 2000mah wont fit without quite a bit of modification, its close...very close, but still requires sanding. if in fact it had amazing reviews i would mod it but ill just cut my losses and toss it.
update on the 1650mah dz battery to follow as soon as i recieve it. battery performance a few days following that.
cheers
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ptesmoke said:
just got it about an hour ago actually, wont fit not without sanding it down, and to be honest it doesnt look very well fabricated after the sticker is off it. also since i read the post above on how its not really much better than the 4g stock battery im not gonna bother sanding it to make it fit. i have a 1650mah battery on its way as well which says its for the desire z, so it should fit perfectly, but ill let you guys know if it does in fact last longer than the stocker.
so to sum things up, the evo 4g slim 2000mah wont fit without quite a bit of modification, its close...very close, but still requires sanding. if in fact it had amazing reviews i would mod it but ill just cut my losses and toss it.
update on the 1650mah dz battery to follow as soon as i recieve it. battery performance a few days following that.
cheers
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Is this Serious?
It takes like 5 minutes with a dremel (including get it out from his box and plug it) to make the battery fit.
If you can use a cell phone, I'm pretty sure you can fit the 4 G battery...
MugenPowerBatteries anyway!

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