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Just read that T-Mobile have started offering TV on 3G devices in the UK. Just tested it and it works a treat - it's free until 30th June for 24 hour passes
For some reason, I don't get the link on my Vario II on the homepage but this link works to take you straight to the EPG
http://10.111.189.31/servlet/download?page=download/epg/jsptemplates/onNow.jsp
Enjoy
Smiffy.
I know the link is truncated but if you hold your mouse over it, you should be able to see the full link in your status bar
Smiffy.
Nice one Lord.
Also got the link from t-mob
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/personal/pages.do/our-services/internet-on-the-move/mobile-tv-costs
Yeah, I had a look at that too but it doesn't mention any of the WM phones and I don't get a link off the w'n'w homepage - it's as if they don't want us to use it
Mine didn't work straight away either - I had to tell the Streaming Media program to connect via the "T-Mobile Internet" connection and it works a treat
I'm running Black 3.5, btw...
Smiffy.
Wow
and the tv hr pass works well. Only works over 3g though not over WIFI.
How did you find this out
JEREMY
Lordsmiff said:
Just read that T-Mobile have started offering TV on 3G devices in the UK. Just tested it and it works a treat - it's free until 30th June for 24 hour passes
Enjoy
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Thankyou, ideal while I am sat in curry house waiting for my tea!
http://tinyurl.com/2uzgze
This should also work, and is easier to re-type....
Hi,
I have just got the Vario 2 and tried to use the mobile TV. I got as far as clicking on the link and streaming media opened.
All I then got was connecting..... and then no network found.
What did you have to do to get it working?
Thanks in advance.
when the player opens have a look at menu, connection. it could need setting.
web and walk t&c's?
Just had a thought; under the terms and conditions for the basic web and walk, audio and video streaming explicitly banned. Where do those users (like me) stand with this? where did you find the link?
link is on the tmobile home page
the tinyurl link was to make it easier to put the really long link into your hermes if your viewing this from a desktop browser.
As for getting it to work. i had to click the link, agree to 24 hour pass, and then it allowed the links to open. It failed everytime for me, so idid a soft reset and since then its works faultlessly.
Awesome find.. It works perfectly on my cheap as chips pay as you go system.
One thing I'm not sure of is do I still pay for the bandwidth used ?
PAYG has a outrageously expensive £1 limit each day.. yes £1 for all your browsing etc. However its not unlimited.. and they "may" get funkey if you go over 15 meg per day. streaming video will zap this up real fast..
Down pub was streaming music vidz and news,- a nice channels selction available.. (>< Holyoaks channel too.. sigh) followed by a quick google maps to show m8's how nice the hermes is. They were all amazed. I just dont know how much bandwidth it all uses up, thus how much ultimatly it will cost, or if viable.
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Just had a thought; under the terms and conditions for the basic web and walk, audio and video streaming explicitly banned. Where do those users (like me) stand with this? where did you find the link?
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Reading thier t&c's , It seems that MobileTV is excluded from webnwalk and is a separate product. So you don't need to even subscribe to webnwalk to use Mobiletv.
However, you DO need webnwalk to access the t-mobile webpages related to mobileTV. So if you have a 1 day pass, each day you would need to access the website (and incur webnwalk charges unless they are included in your price plan), plus the mobile tv charge.
I think on other devices (non WM), you can instal an application to handle the charging and playing of TV, thus avoiding need for web page accessing.
Now, i wonder if the MobileTV charge is an 'extra' or whether it is deducted from my FlexT allowance?
cool, something thats works for me 1st time!
the big brother 8 channel is the E4 live footage!
A way to keep her happy down the pub
Well, I managed to get it working once, via GPRS (was downstairs, rubbish 3G reception downstairs).
Subsequently, reconnected on 3G and tried to make it work - making sure the Streaming Media app was set to connect via T Mobile Internet... No dice.
Not been able to make it work since then, I think there must be a problem with their streaming platform somewhere or the way the variables are being passed to the streaming app, because why else would it work once and then never work again? Very annoying.
you are rather fab Lordsmiff, I have spent AGES trying to find that stupid link
Not having to top up....?
Being a bit of a tight a#*e and wanting to give this a go, I was wondering if t-mob give any free credit if you register you SIM or anything like that. I just stuck a new PAYG SIM in and wanted to give it a go but am at work so can't/don't really want to put any credit on it. I know o2 and Voda do...
you do need some credit on your account to sign up for the service via the webpage which is on your phone.
However t-mobs online billing site does work with pay as you go too. so I can check how much I've used etc, and you are not charged for the streaming video bandwidth, which is cool.
One strange thing is I notice listed is a
TMO Network Coupon 2001 QOS1000 - a data link.. saying 21k,
This has been poling every hour for the last day.. I have not been charged for this.. I have no idea what this is. or if it is linked to the tv system... odd.
shame the service has been down since at least 5:45am!
Hi my thoughts (using Tytn Vario II);
- Streaming works well. I hate streaming over 3g but this works well. No breaks in audio or video. The framerate sometimes is low for the video but audio is fine all the time. Again fairly acceptable with current technoloy.
- the electronic program guide could have been better, but i guess they are trying to keep it simple for compatability with less specification mobile devices.
- Not quite 'live' TV (except maybe Big Brother). Seems to be preselected scheduled content. Most programs are small snippets - but that is fine since most mobile TV usage is about wanting to have a quick 5-6 minute view.
Can't wait for the day we can view on our mobiles the exact same content that is being transmitted on normal tv.
- Hopfully more content to appear if this trial is sucessful for T-Mobile.
- Dont really like the built in Streaming Media Player but it does the job ok - anyone know of any 3rd party alternatives out there?
- shame no BBC channels.
Finally,
- would I pay for this service? ....hmmm..maybe - a little more choice in content and so long as once I pay for say monthly access AND dont have to worry about data charges....
PROS:
Reliable and acceptable access compared to similar 'free' alternatives
CONS:
Limited choice of channels
Not enough of 'live' broadcast content
Bil
Hello all, I'll get straight to the problem and not waste any more of your time than needed as I know most of you are very busy.
I got a new HTC TyTN II and I am on AT&T in the US. My problem is that when I try to do something that streams audio or video data it will not do it. I connect to the Wi-Fi and it will do it just fine. I can open web pages and do speed tests till I turn blue, but streaming audio and video are out. I must also point out that because I live in Denver there is no 3G, I am on EDGE.
I have already talked with HTC, but they said I need to talk to the provider since the phone can do it via wi-fi. I went to a local AT&T store and said it might be my plan, they changed it from the MediaMax + 200 to the PDA connect package. I have seen no change and this was about 14 hours ago from this post. The rep also changed out my sim card as I had a Cingular 64K smartsim, they upgraded me to a AT&T 3G sim. They were unable to figure it out and suggested I call AT&T tech support (oh joy). I called and the rep I talked to said that its because I'm using an unbranded phone on the edge, when 3G hits denver this problem should go away, he also mentioned that it happens with most of the 3G phones that AT&T sells. For some reason though, this just doesn't sound right. Technically it could be done. A 64kbit audio stream is easily done via a 200kbit data EDGE connection, so I don't see why they wouldn't allow it. Just seems foolish to block these services if this is true. I just have a hard time believing this is the cause.
I have a few programs that do work, and don't work because of the data issue. Youtube mobile works, it uses a program called "Streaming Media", and the file format is .3gp, but when I stream other data, like from Orb in .3gp, it does not work, even in "Streaming Media". I have another program called Resco Radio, it enables me to listen to Shoutcast radio, but it does not work at all on the edge, on wi-fi it works fine. Then I have xstreamxm.com, they allow me to listen to XM on my mobile device using Windows Media Player. This also does not work.
Programs that do work are Windows Live Maps, Google Maps, Youtube Mobile, and internet surfing. Speed tests are coming in from 174-226kbits/sec from dslreports.com.
Knowing what you know now, what do you think the problem could be? I am open to ANY suggestion, so please write back. Thank you in advance for your time.
Sounds like you need to disable the proxy if you're on the $20 MEdia Maxx plan.
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330171&highlight=streaming
It was a very simple search for me....
I have searched around the phone and I am not able to locate where to disable the proxy. I searched all the connection settings area and all the connections area. hmmm.....
EDIT - I found it, I had to change the settings on MEdiaNet, not My ISP. MEdiaNet settings are harder to get to which is why I missed them. You can't directly get to them from the connections page, you have to get the settings link while its dialing. I seemed to have gotten it fixed (HOORAY FOR ME! lol)
Thanks Flapjack for pointing out that thread, that really helped.
Ok, this may seem VERY obvious for many, but thought it was worth a mention.
On the N7105, under Settings > Wireless & Network > More Settings > Mobile Networks,
the "Network Mode" option has LTE/GSM/WCDMA (Auto/4G), GSM only(Edge/2G), WCDMA only (3G/HSPA+) .
When using data in passive mode, like letting emails, notifications, contacts, s/media etc sync in the background, if you leave it on GSM only, I'm guessing it'll take up a lot less battery.
And every now and then when you need to browse or stream etc, you can temporarily set it to LTE/Auto or WCDMA depending on the data load (like WCDMA for audio streaming; LTE/Auto for video streaming).
I'm sure there's widgets that do it from the homescreen too.
And I guess the same applies for the N7100, except for the LTE part.
For anyone on 3 in the UK wanting to try this, 3 doesn't have a 2g/GSM only network.
Thanx for the tip
While this is true, I can't stand it. This is coming from me! I used to keep my Blackberries always on 2G. But the problem is if you do anything OTHER than receive emails or send messages, then it's too slow.
Not to mention anything over data via 2G or 2.5G (Edge) cuts off your phone line as it's using the data connection and you can't handle voice and data over over 2 or 2.5G. Be warned! You're going to miss a lot of phone calls!
If you receive a call it will cut out the data connection. Not the other way round
You won't miss any calls...
By the way everyone, check out opera mini! Set image quality to low and pages load pretty quickly over 2.5g and decently over 2g.
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Cmon guys. . This phone is the mother of all smart phones in regards of battery. ..you need these tricks only if you are stuck on a desolated Island. ..
handwritten from my note 2 (N7100)
I will also have to agree with the previous post. I get almost 2 solid days if not a little more of battery life on this thing. Changing the 4G setting only takes away the full ability of what my "little monster" has to offer.
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SirCanealot said:
If you receive a call it will cut out the data connection. Not the other way round
You won't miss any calls...
By the way everyone, check out opera mini! Set image quality to low and pages load pretty quickly over 2.5g and decently over 2g.
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Actually, yeah!
It happens to my mom and me all the time. At my moms house she doesn't use wifi, and she leaves it on GPRS. if she's chatting on whatsapp, the phone call goes to the answering machine because it's being transmitted over the same radio! So her being online holds up the line. I'd suggest you try it Turn on GPRS and browse the web and while loading a site give yourself a call.
Never ceases 2 amaze me how people use all kind of tricks, from Uv, Uc, to what the op does...etc etc...ending up with nothing more than a dumb phone with a big screen!
I paid the full price n I want to use the full potentiel, n how big of a deal is it to plug to a power outlet? unless ur in the middle of nowhere, in which case u'll have no use 4 the phone anyways!
Peace 2 all.
Well, people only end up "using" the phone for a few hours (in terms of screen time), and for the majority of the day, it's just passively doing it's thing. So if you had some widget set up for a quick 2/3/4G swap, for the great majority of the day, it wouldn't really make a difference in your experience with the phone. It'd just mean you wouldn't have to worry about running low on juice when you actually ARE using it for content/media/social media etc.
But that is, if you can be bothered The battery's great eitherway!
Re: missing calls on 2G when data is on, I guess it might be carrier specific (as to whether they prioritize pushing through phone calls over data); wouldn't really know. But in my case, the phone calls seem to tend to come through...
Anyway, as I do tend to use the phone quite a lot (multi tasking, a/v streaming, photography/editing, media uploading and more, all at a 'decent' brightness) and am out and about till late regularly, I've realized, putting in that little bit of effort when I'm not doing all that makes a noticeable difference by night time.
But if/when all else fails...spare battery
SirCanealot said:
If you receive a call it will cut out the data connection. Not the other way round
You won't miss any calls...
By the way everyone, check out opera mini! Set image quality to low and pages load pretty quickly over 2.5g and decently over 2g.
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This is exactly what I do when I'm not really using the phone too much and its mostly in my pocket. Taking it out for a few minutes every now and then I use Opera Mini and the speed over 2.5g is acceptable enough. This is a huge battery saver if you need the phone to last as long as possible when you know you'll be away from a charging point for a few days.
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if anyone knows of a widget that can directly toggle between 2G and 3G or 4G, i'd love to know about it because samsung implemented network switching differently from AOSP so apps that work on AOSP doesn't work on samsung, at least as far as I can tell. Even having root is useless, I still can't find a widget capable of directly toggling the networks...
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if anyone knows of a widget that can directly toggle between 2G and 3G or 4G, i'd love to know about it because samsung implemented network switching differently from AOSP so apps that work on AOSP doesn't work on samsung, at least as far as I can tell. Even having root is useless, I still can't find a widget capable of directly toggling the networks...
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For the time being, I've to a shortcut widget to "Mobile Networks" (Power Toggles -> 2G/3G) on my homescreen, and I switch it from there. It's one extra click, but I guess I can live with it!
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For the time being, I've to a shortcut widget to "Mobile Networks" (Power Toggles -> 2G/3G) on my homescreen, and I switch it from there. It's one extra click, but I guess I can live with it!
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I've got a widget for the shortcut too, but it's more than 1 extra click right? You have to click the widget, then Network mode, click the mode you want, then click OK, then it will swap modes. That's 4 clicks. On AOSP based roms, it's just 1 click. Guess it's probably a limitation of samsung roms.
So when I posted about switching the original note 1 to edge or gsm only to save battery everyone told me I was crazy and it didn't save any battery but now this is a tip?
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I've got a widget for the shortcut too, but it's more than 1 extra click right? You have to click the widget, then Network mode, click the mode you want, then click OK, then it will swap modes. That's 4 clicks. On AOSP based roms, it's just 1 click. Guess it's probably a limitation of samsung roms.
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Actually, come to think about it you're right! I guess I'd just gotten used to it.
Wonder if there was a way to do it via 'Tasker'?
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So when I posted about sing the original note 1 to edge or gsm only to save battery everyone told me I was crazy and it didn't save any battery but now this is a tip?
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You would have been right! it definitely does. The battery consumption difference between 4G and 2G is fairly significant...
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Actually, come to think about it you're right! I guess I'd just gotten used to it.
Wonder if there was a way to do it via 'Tasker'?
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I tried it on my previous S3 before and Tasker couldn't toggle it either.
Related to the missed calls when on 2G.
That depends of wich model you're using.
CDMA (example: Sprint) will allow you to use data, but data connection will not be available if you place a call. And if you're browsing the web, or downloading something, calls go directly to voicemail
GSM (example: AT&T) will allows you to browse data when you're on 2G, BUT, you can be able to receive calls even if you're downloading something, but the data connection will me cut off until you finish the call.
That's the main difference about how the modems and radio works between each technology.
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You would have been right! it definitely does. The battery consumption difference between 4G and 2G is fairly significant...
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Yup well you can read all the comments telling me what I wanted to do was useless and pointless here when I know for a fact I was right...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730601
Today I got my brothers unlimited data plan and decided to try out how fast it is. When I stream HD YouTube videos it takes like 10 seconds for a video to start playing. While on WiFi it instantly starts playing.
I did the speed test on both WiFi and 4G and 4G beats WiFi completely. (Attached below)
What's the problem? I'm not sure could it be the version of YouTube?
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If Im listening to Spotify at work or something and I'm connected to WiFi if I turn off WiFi and use LTE it doesn't know what to do I'm in a state of having LTE but it won't allow me to connect to anything unless I reboot. I'm using a TMobile version converted to OOS 9.0.12 rooted with magisk. The only thing I'm thinking is I'm using adguard as a VPN and I feel that might be messing up the handoff.
Any thoughts and help are appreciated I thank you in advance
Same problem.
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Same problem.
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Cool it's not just me
I noticed the same thing when steaming with Aimp. It's not a problem in general. Aimp is the only app in my lineup that does that. Data works, as I can browse and whatnot, even though Aimp is not detecting the switch. When switching to data, I just shutdown Aimp, wait a minute or two and fire it up again. I played around with the mobile data always active option in developer options but it didn't help.
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It happens way before for me even in t-mobile firmware. I also did convert from t-mobile to one plus firmware with every setting retain. The handoff between LTE and wifi is very slow(The only good handoff experience i ever have for LTE and wifi is from Samsung, it switch immediately when wifi is lost). The 6T keeps hanging onto the wifi signal even when it really low and doesn't have a connection. The reverse would also apply, the 6T try to connect to known wifi and hand off too early and the connection got cut. I use youtube vance it a take some time for the connection to reconnect or I have to manually refresh, the same situation for other apps.
I just tried switching while streaming a YouTube video. The handoff was immediate when switching back and forth a few times. I'm convinced it's just certain apps that get hung up.
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I just tried switching while streaming a YouTube video. The handoff was immediate when switching back and forth a few times. I'm convinced it's just certain apps that get hung up.
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For me manually switching does happen immediately with youtube, it the problem when driving and you can't do that. My 6T will try to hang onto my wifi signal until it goes down to one bar and connection got cut off, then it switches. However during the hanging onto the wifi signal portion there are no connection. I do have smart switch enable.
well think I figured out the handoff issue at least my problem, using adguard as a VPN was messing with the handoff after pausing it the handoff is instantaneous
I have a similar issue when I'm at work I use Wi-Fi but when I leave work and I'm out of range of Wi-Fi it doesn't switch over to LTE a lot of times it'll just show you know my full signal but it doesn't say LTE and I have no internet then the only way I found the fix it is by rebooting my phone does anybody know how to maybe correct this and by the way I'm not using any VPN or any weird apps
I experienced the same thing when I was on T-Mobile service. About a month ago I switched back to Verizon and noticed the handoff was much faster to the point where you didn't notice and apps didn't notice. Not sure if it matters but when I switched to Verizon I was running the oneplus 6 pixel expirence caf build and still am right now.
I pretty much stopped using wi-fi. I don't use a lot to begin with. Straight Talk boosted their data limit to 25GB a few months ago. Even with streaming, I never get even close to going over. Before, I use to have wi-fi auto switch turned on, but never noticed a problem with it switching between wi-fi and LTE.