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So who else is dieing for ninjablur 2.2 to hit the Droid x so the n1 can get a taste of it. That ui completely intrigues me for some reason. Its not in your face like motoblur" nor is it as intrusive. Everyone who's spent time with the Droid x praises the ui. What do u guys think?
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Nothing wrong with a little variety dude. Lol
once again....NOOOOOOOO....
I think it will go very well with the Nexus one's look... but who is going to do the dirty work?
I think they are actually calling it Motoblur 2.0 instead of Ninjablur
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All i want is a plain ole cup of vanilla froyo with some cyan sprinkles and im good.
Stock FroYo look FTW.
Only 1 must have UI improvement - LauncherPro (it's fast as hell. Once you try it, u won't ever go back to stock launcher). Oh and it's much better than ADW Launcher, imo. Better config, faster.
I just switched from a HTC Incredible, rooted, w/skyraider 3.0 loaded, to the Droid X. I have to say, I loved the HTC phones, had a droid before it that I didn't like to much, BUT, this X is amazing. The screen, for not being an LED, is amazing. It looks way better than the INC. Looks like some of the things on the screen actually jump out at you, like 3D or something... It seems to react faster to everything also. Anyone else been this happy with switching??? Oh and It is rooted and loaded with froyo 2.2, so has flash and all the free rooted apps, like wifi tether!
welcome to the dx side... yeah its amazing but dont get me wrong the dinc is pretty cool too with senses, just image if senses ul was on the dx instead of blur, holy! that would be one bad machine there, truely the king of android/droid devices of its time.
can you check the loaded version of the flash player you have for me? i need the full version numbers. thanks
also there's an updated version of your flashplayer, its found in the themes and apps section of this forum by me, but here it is >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763584 <<<
The flash player on mine says version 10.1.72.10... I did really like the Dinc, BUT I don't see the major difference in sense and blur. What are the main differences???
yeah i guess i needed that update... thanks!
thanks for the info.
sense ui is so much cleaner and well put together. i cant really explaining the differences, but there is a huge difference in the two ui's and im sure someone else can explain it...
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thanks for the info.
sense ui is so much cleaner and well put together. i cant really explaining the differences, but there is a huge difference in the two ui's and im sure someone else can explain it...
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Well let me explain each:
HTC SENSE: Basically you have a dock which ONLY has soft-buttons for Phone, the app drawer, and I forget what the plus sign does.... Possibly to add home screen widgets I think....
Motorola BLUR: Motos dock contains a phone soft-button, as well as contacts and app drawer... The only other thing that blur does is chance the dock when swiping to represent what home screen you are on....
EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST WIDGETS SUCKING UP RESOURCES.
And my last statement is exactly why folks want Vanilla Froyo.. nothing BUT the Android OS. No moto Widgets, No sense..... Just Froyo.. and I will use Launcher Pro always of course!
Hope this helped some of you guys...
i was a dinc to x convert. gave the wife the dinc. loved the dinc. i'm a modder by nature and the dinc has tons of custom roms and other hacks you can do to it which made for consistant enjoyment. i can't wait until some more developments are made with the x so we can do the same kind of stuff to it.
that said, the screen on the x (giant goodness) is really the biggest difference i see. the speed on both is about the same.
the one thing i noticed is that i seem to get better 3g with the x than the dinc (same location) and the dinc gets better wifi than the x. must have something to do with antenna difference i guess.
So I have this problem, where I cannot for the life of me stick to a stinkin ROM type. AOSP or Sense. And since I am a fan of Sense 1.0 and until just recently there has been no good gingerbread roms using it ive had to try almost all the 2.1/3.0 ROMS. None which I like. Our phone is just too slow to handle it well (IMO).
So, does anyone else have this indecisive behavior? If you do what do you find yourself on most of the time? Sense, or AOSP?
AOSP / CM7.
I found that all my indecisiveness was cured with themeing my phone.
Used Launcher Pro instead of the cruddy default launcher that CM7 uses, I used android kitchen (http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/) to theme my status bar, drop down and icons in the status bar- and I used a couple more themeing widgets and apps found from people at http://mycolorscreen.com/category/android/
Also I changed the dock background to a better looking one and I moved around the icons in Launcher Pro so that it'd be simpler to click on them quickly (like the phone icon).
I think the key is to find a stable yet up-to-date ROM, then mod the crap outta it until you really love it, then don't update it unless you really want to (like a new version of android comes out). I'm not planning on upgrading my CM7 unless android has a new release, which may be a few months.
POQbum said:
AOSP / CM7.
I found that all my indecisiveness was cured with themeing my phone.
Used Launcher Pro instead of the cruddy default launcher that CM7 uses, I used android kitchen (http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/) to theme my status bar, drop down and icons in the status bar- and I used a couple more themeing widgets and apps found from people at http://mycolorscreen.com/category/android/
Also I changed the dock background to a better looking one and I moved around the icons in Launcher Pro so that it'd be simpler to click on them quickly (like the phone icon).
I think the key is to find a stable yet up-to-date ROM, then mod the crap outta it until you really love it, then don't update it unless you really want to (like a new version of android comes out). I'm not planning on upgrading my CM7 unless android has a new release, which may be a few months.
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Yeah but the problem I find with AOSP is that it indeed feels so half baked to me. Like there is no K9 dialing? WTH. (It's coming, some guy built it and is going to submit it to review, but still, it hasnt had this???) The browser is sooo much slower graphically. Flash is useless.
But it's so clean. And fast. never freezes.
And themes, eh they never feel complete either. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours!
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Yeah but the problem I find with AOSP is that it indeed feels so half baked to me. Like there is no K9 dialing? WTH. (It's coming, some guy built it and is going to submit it to review, but still, it hasnt had this???) The browser is sooo much slower graphically. Flash is useless.
But it's so clean. And fast. never freezes.
And themes, eh they never feel complete either. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours!
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ah yeah I think you're missing some pieces. If you want T9 dialing then there are "dialer" apps out there. Go Dialer I think was one of the better ones, but I still prefer stock (no T9 smart dialing but I'm ok with it)
You don't have to use prepackaged themes, really you can theme your phone into anything you're looking for. There are apps, widgets and modifications to do it, if you need any hints on which apps and places to go I can let you know. I don't even know what browser comes with CM7, I always uninstall. Dolphin Mini Browser has always been my favorite.
I think you are looking at only what is presented with the ROM, you can really exchange/modify most things in any rooted ROM pretty easily.
and I don't mean to try and sell you on a particular ROM, I just want to make sure you know what's possible and what's out there
OP, you must be a REAL flash-o-holic. I just tried CM7.1... again... on my Tbolt and I can't STAND it. CM doesn't seem any faster on my dInc or my Tbolt than the Sense 1.0 ROM I had on the dInc or the Sense 3.0 3D ROM on my Tbolt. In fact, it shows more lag on both. It's just not a finished product in my opinion. To relate it to a car...
A good Sense ROM is like the whole package. Everything has been thought out and the right things added and the whole package pretty nicely tied together and polished.
AOSP is kinda like GM just sold you the rolling chassis. Now you gotta put some kind of body on it, something to steer it with, lights, seats, wheels better than the stamped steel crap they rolled off the truck on... It's like a hobby kit of an OS. If someone offered a decent package of widgets for AOSP I might give it more than a half a day on my phone. I just don't have any desire to spend hours of time and money trying to slowly build an AOSP ROM into something that begins to do what I want. If AOSP was my only choice, I'd be back on BlackBerry.
I've been on MIUI as a daily for probably 6 months now, the themeing possibilities with this ROM honestly have gotten rid of any need to crackflash for me. BTW OP, it has T9 stock and a bunch of other great things.
I also tried most of the Sense 3.0 ROMs and couldn't find one that I liked enough to stay for more than about a week (Nils BS3.0 for the record) and most only last a few hours. Just can't beat the smoothness and possibilities that come with MIUI IMO.
i have been using skyraider 4.3 the most, swapped it out recently for CM7 until today i went back, and was super glad i did.
Key features for me are:
-CM7 style dual slider lockscreen
(this is a must because i like to be able to go directly to the dialer or messages, and have instant access to switch the phone to vibrate/ring from the lockscreen)
-stock gingerbread keyboard (not a fan of the sense one)
-quick and stable
-sense dialer
Edit: There is also a skyraider 5.0 in the works, using the new OTA gingerbread framework, though not ETA for that yet
My experience has been that Sense 1.0 ROMs are the most stable and smooth. I liked SkyRaider the best for performance and customization, but now that GB is official it's hard to stay on Froyo. SR 5 is coming, but probably not for a while.
My daily right now is Insensitive-Minimalist 2.1. It has the Sense framework, most of the better Sense Apps, but everything else removed. It's fast and stable, IMHO. It lacks the customizable features in CM, but I can live without those.
I keep a backup of CM7 on my phone for when I want to play emulators with my wii controller, otherwise I hop around on various Sense roms. Really liking the Bliss port that's going on right now.
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OP, you must be a REAL flash-o-holic. I just tried CM7.1... again... on my Tbolt and I can't STAND it. CM doesn't seem any faster on my dInc or my Tbolt than the Sense 1.0 ROM I had on the dInc or the Sense 3.0 3D ROM on my Tbolt. In fact, it shows more lag on both. It's just not a finished product in my opinion. To relate it to a car...
A good Sense ROM is like the whole package. Everything has been thought out and the right things added and the whole package pretty nicely tied together and polished.
AOSP is kinda like GM just sold you the rolling chassis. Now you gotta put some kind of body on it, something to steer it with, lights, seats, wheels better than the stamped steel crap they rolled off the truck on... It's like a hobby kit of an OS. If someone offered a decent package of widgets for AOSP I might give it more than a half a day on my phone. I just don't have any desire to spend hours of time and money trying to slowly build an AOSP ROM into something that begins to do what I want. If AOSP was my only choice, I'd be back on BlackBerry.
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Ah you share my thoughts exactly. Cyanogenmod and the team do a great job of what they do but AOSP to me is like what you said, a chassis on wheels. My favorite ROMs used to be virtuous and skyraider, but I can't go back to froyo now that in on the gingerbread train.
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looks too much like iOS, any1 else feel the same way?
it does and i said the same thing but iv been running it for a month now, switching off to new sense roms but within a hour im back it works way to good. All the sense roms out battery life sucks, it lags, and even after switching to a new kernel seems something breaks like wifi.
Personally I like savzen I agree that sense eats up battery life but I enjoy the Widgets but I can do without
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it does and i said the same thing but iv been running it for a month now, switching off to new sense roms but within a hour im back it works way to good. All the sense roms out battery life sucks, it lags, and even after switching to a new kernel seems something breaks like wifi.
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love sense, but ran it for so long it got boring, went to MIUI then found out it had no app drawer like iOS, and i didnt like that experience lol, now im running an AOSP rom
Really can't stand Sense anything. I tried the MIUI for about 10 minutes. Definitely not for me. CM7 does everything I need it to.
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MIUI is ios if ios was designed really, really well. It may "simply" look the same, but it isn't remotely close. I highly recommend you try it before you bash it for not having an app drawer.
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MIUI is ios if ios was designed really, really well. It may "simply" look the same, but it isn't remotely close. I highly recommend you try it before you bash it for not having an app drawer.
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i did try it, for almost a day, but the feel was too much like iOS, i get what ur saying, but it really doesnt feel like i have an android on my hands if u kno what i mean
I'm using the MIUI Tim and I love it I guess my only issue is that I'm not experiencing that long battery life everyone is speaking of am I doing something wrong... help lol I have the cyotogen 7 kernel if that helps
sttonydamunsta luv my evo4g
I wasn't thrilled with the lack of the app drawer but that's easily fixed by loading another launcher. When I was using MIUI it was Launcher Pro.
MIUI looks like iOS after a fresh flash, but it doesn't have to. That's what I love most about it, I can theme every aspect of it. I use Alt Drawer, so I have an app drawer.
Plus it's smooth, has a lot of neat apps, and is different than any other rom I've seen. I switched to it because I was bored with CM7 and didn't like Sense. That was in April and I haven't looked back.
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I wasn't thrilled with the lack of the app drawer but that's easily fixed by loading another launcher. When I was using MIUI it was Launcher Pro.
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hmm never thought about doing that, thx for the idea hehe
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MIUI looks like iOS after a fresh flash, but it doesn't have to. That's what I love most about it, I can theme every aspect of it. I use Alt Drawer, so I have an app drawer.
Plus it's smooth, has a lot of neat apps, and is different than any other rom I've seen. I switched to it because I was bored with CM7 and didn't like Sense. That was in April and I haven't looked back.
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dont get me wrong, the Rom looked super neat, and smooth, except for the keyboard, couldnt keep up with my typing but thats easily fixed
and alt drawer? never heard of it, might give it a try see how i like it
Or just throw all your apps into a folder and put it on the dock.
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Or just throw all your apps into a folder and put it on the dock.
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i tried that, but the more apps i put in, the laggier it got for some reason, and it was really cramped, kind of annoying to try to find an app lol
I am on the dislike MIUI bandwagon too. I'm not going to bash it as I agree it has some sick features. The killer for me was the app drawer and 4g. I think if I gave it more than a day I could customize it to my liking but I just like Sense and all the Sense features.
I thought about maybe a custom launcher but then I thought "why change from a Sense rom that is native to my HTC phone that guarantees GPS ect to work by default and install one that isn't just to put a launcher over it and defeat the purpose"
I got bored with Sense launcher and Rosie so I currently have ADW ex installed and still have flawless gps, the dialer I like, everything synced how I like, email app I like apps where I want ect... right from the start.
I could do that with MIUI or CM but then I have to install DialerOne, GoSMS and a few other things to get what I like. I can't stand any of the AOSP dialer and sms layouts.
If I didn't live in such a 4g rich area I would probably give MIUI the turn it deserves but that is a killer before I start. It's also what's really irking me about the new Sense 3.5 Roms. Runny~Bliss(i think) hybrid looks gorgeous to me..... but I'll wait it out.
Miui isn't a bad rom at all. At first I refuse to use it because it did remind me of my old iPhone. But ended up trying it and loving it.
I get better battery life with miui compared to sense. Plus there is alot of built in apps and features to miui that is bad ass. And who can forget all the sweet customizing you can do to it. For example just did this setup below a few minutes ago...
One somewhat downside for me is the no 4G but then again that only effects me when I go visit my parents up state. That's when I backup Miui and switch to a sense Rom problem solved haha.
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MIUI is AMAZING. I love it. And the theming? NO ROM beats it! Its fantastic the way you can make your phone look. The only reason why I won run it, is because of the laggyness of the keyboard.
Here is my current setup of MIUI, and it damn sure doesn't look like iOS to me...
BTW, my GPS snaps perfectly, syncing all 8 SATS in about a millisecond. I really don't get why people make comments without knowing how to do something.
Maybe it does look a bit like iOS. But I don't care, it's still the smoothest and best ROM I've flashed on my Evo. (and particularly this week's build is quite stable so far).
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BTW, my GPS snaps perfectly, syncing all 8 SATS in about a millisecond. I really don't get why people make comments without knowing how to do something.
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Not sure if that was directed to my gps comment but either way...... It's a know fact that aosp based roms are more subject to gps issue and have had numerous "fixes" posted to resolve.
It's not a matter of what I KNOW how to do it what i WANT to deal with. I never said aosp or miui were bad by any means. Just not my cup.
Posted a long time ago in the future.
I used to think the same. Now, I have customized Miui to my liking by creating my own app drawer and installing a new theme via the built in theme manager. It is very fast, very advanced, highly customizable and finally pulled me away from Sense (though I do have two Sense Roms in my Boot Manager slots).
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I haven't really tried them out much yet. I installed AOKP for a little bit the other day, but didn't know enough about ti to leave it on as my daily driver for work. SO I am wondering what do these roms have that make them cool? I like the way the 5 icons look in the dock at the bottom of the screen, but I can get that with GoLauncher.
Not hating on these roms at all. I love what the devs are doing. I just want to know what difference I get going with an ICS rom over something like MikG 3.0 or tommys classic?
Thanks
It's the new thing out..newer is better, right?
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I haven't really tried them out much yet. I installed AOKP for a little bit the other day, but didn't know enough about ti to leave it on as my daily driver for work. SO I am wondering what do these roms have that make them cool? I like the way the 5 icons look in the dock at the bottom of the screen, but I can get that with GoLauncher.
Not hating on these roms at all. I love what the devs are doing. I just want to know what difference I get going with an ICS rom over something like MikG 3.0 or tommys classic?
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Its just another thing that we're not supposed to have on our evos which makes it fun!
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Battery life on decks alphas is awesome
I'd like to use Chrome for the phone.
I haven't left any on my Evo because I'm waiting for CM9 to come out. Although there are a couple of ROMS in the development section that looks promising.
Plus I am getting stellar performance w/ Evo Classic 0.06 Supermagic preview developed by TommyTomatoe
It's the latest version of Android, Google what's new.
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It's the latest version of Android, Google what's new.
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I have done that, but I also know these roms aren't all their yet. Just wondering what cool new features they have and which ones they might be missing compared to the actual ICS
I'm not always an early adopter, and I don't automatically subscribe to newer=better.
That said, I just really love the new UI for ICS. I've always had to theme my roms to get rid of green and replace with blue (I hate green).
It's also the first real revamp of the UI in a LONG time. I like how the menu options shoot up the middle of screen, instead of 6 blocks across the bottom.
I like how there's finally scrollable Widgets (namely, finally, for the email), but also browser, calendar.
The quickmenu in browser is a really cool feature, as is the way browser handles tabs.
I really like the way gallery is handled, and the layout for sharing options after a pic is taken.
Notifications sweep away much easier/smoother than I've ever seen on GB. Also, long press of home for task switching is handled nicer than previously, I think.
I just really like it. Yes, there are features not working yet, but I do think it really is an improvement over earlier versions. On AOKP, I'm getting pretty poor battery life (but it's a great ROM), On drews p6 I got fantastic battery life.
Oh, I like the rotation animation, too. I'm sure there's lots more I'm not thinking of.
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Not sold on ICS... yet.
I'm a flashaholic. My wife and I both have EVO 4G's, and I'm constantly flashing different ROMs on our phones. I've tried a couple ICS roms, even though there are still some bugs yet to be worked out. I'm not really impressed. I've found that I prefer ROMs that are more easily theme friendly. I think the new ICS blue is gonna get old fast. My wife prefers MikG 3.0, while I'm currently swagged out with Swagged Out Stock (Swag=ON). That said, when CM9 is available, I'll flash and play around with it. I'm also looking forward to checking out Chrome and a few other apps only available for ICS.
Why do you think CM9 will be worth? Hell, it may never even come to Evo (if you haven't noticed, CM has dropped support for Evo). The devs working on 4.0 now are light years beyond CM. Try it , you'll see.
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Hey,
Ics is android 4.0 which is the latest and greatest! All the android 4.0 roms you will find right now are all AOSP roms, and later on when HTC releases it there will be the Sense android 4.0 roms! The difference is its just the latest and has extra eye candy and a few better features!
I hope I helped If I did please hit the thanks button,
Stevo
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Why do you think CM9 will be worth? Hell, it may never even come to Evo (if you haven't noticed, CM has dropped support for Evo). The devs working on 4.0 now are light years beyond CM. Try it , you'll see.
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As far as I've heard from inside source is that cm9 is close to ready for evo. Its missing some drivers that they are having to write themselves due to lack of support from HTC and qualcom. I know for a fact that a close buddy of mine is running cm9 that he compiled himself from cm tree only thing is hes had to hack the kernel for now. So it will be coming eventually.
cool to hear. I'll obviously keep my eye out (always am lol). Thanks for heads up. AOKP so far has been pretty amazing, though.
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Battery life is my favorite part so far. Going a full day and at the end of the night having 50% left is ridiculous. I use to be lucky having battery left by lunch! AOKP by the way. Tried to post the screenshot but either the upload doesn't work on the app or I don't have enough posts.
First, its task manager is awsome, you have to now end tasks or they will keep going its nice in some ways but lame if you get tomany running,
second, scrollable widgets and the ablity to resize them.\
and thats all i got
The big things that I'm loving about ICS are;
Scollable widgets (I used to stick to sense because of the great widgets, but these are comparable).
Re-sizable widgets (I know this is available with different launcher replacements, but it's nice to have "out of the box").
Battery life, getting almost 24 hours on AOKP.
Swiping away notifications (again, available on different ROMs).
The overall look is fresh, I prefer the blue over the typical green.
The things I'm not a fan of;
No 4g (though I hardly ever used it anyway because it just KILLS my battery).
No video recording.
Random force closes (these are few and far between, much less than other ROMs I've been on, but they still happen).
Not being able to long press to add an app or widget to a screen (I know this is available through NOVA launcher, just talking about out of the box here).
Not sure if I'm sold on the new app drawer layout.
Bottom line is, since I flashed ICS (Evervolv first, now AOKP) to try it out, it's become my daily driver. The features match up with what I'm looking for, and what's currently missing will surely be fixed soon enough thanks to the awesome dev's working on it. As always, it boils down to what you want and what you can live without.
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It's the new thing out..newer is better, right?
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I think thats what it was, for me at least. I couldn't wait to hop on board the ICS train. I was flashing everytime someone released a new alpha!
It eventually died down for me, and now I am settled back down nicely with CM7..
So far the only ICS that has impressed me was 4.0.3 sense 4.0. Other than that I can't seem to see what all the hype is. Aosp ICS in my opinion(yes my opinion) is its plain and poorly colored. Maybe I don't want a turquois blue UI. Idk. Just MY opinion as I know everyone has their own ideas thoughts and feelings. Don't get me wrong I do like some of the features(some which evo4g may not see) but in time I believe it will get better. Everything starts from bottom. GB was the same way when it surfaced for our evos. Well see what the future brings!