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default alarm clock not going off

i have set the alarms on my new incredible and tested them by setting them to go off while i'm watching, so i know it works. what i can't figure out is why the alarms don't go off in the morning. even hitting snooze (during testing) and then leaving the phone alone to go to sleep caused it too fail to go off again.
my speculation is that the alarms will only go off if the phone is already active, but this makes no sense to me. i read some threads of people asking about alarm clock apps and such for other model androids and everyone seemed to find their default alarms worked and were just looking for better functionality.
is anyone else experiencing this issue? if so, have you found any settings or whatever to correct it?
i am brand new to android (winmo before) so i could be missing the obvious. any help would be appreciated.

Mine works just fine, every weekday morning at 6:30am.
i did setup a special one last sunday for the first time and it worked great!
There is a setting to "play alarm even when the phone is in silent mode", "alarm volume", snooze duration(this is nice!), and slide button behaviour. 2x check those!

Yeah, it took me a little bit to figure this one out. If you're using a task killer you need to make sure to keep the "Clock" app running for the alarms to work.

I know a member over at ppcgeeks with the same problem. Clock wouldn't ring at set time. Long story short , advanced task killer was the problem . He uninstalled that app and the alarm clock rang the next morning.

if you have task killers make sure NOT to kill CLOCK app or it wont ring

tommy96814 said:
if you have task killers make sure NOT to kill CLOCK app or it wont ring
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Or just remove ATK, it seems to be a problem for people that don't understand memory management on the droids.
It was a huge problem on the moto droids on the other forums, and there's no reason to install it.

thanks for the feedback. this is almost certainly my problem.
i downloaded an alarm clock app that worked just fine even with my compulsive killing of tasks.
i'm brand new to android and have never used any other type of linux system, i have used winmo phones for a long time and couldn't have done with out a task manager.
i'v been reading some conflicting opinions on these boards about ATK use. some people think it is with out any real purpose and some complain that the built in task killer doesn't turn on till resources are low enough to cause performance issues. i can't really comment on this, as i don't know enough, but i can say that i have my 3g set to only turn on when needed and every damn app wants internet connectivity. so, if i don't kill the tasks running in the background the 3g won't turn off, and my poor, tiny battery will die.
or am i still making faulty assumptions?

you dont need to worry about that; android handles applications very differently than windows mobile and even without task killer your battery wont drain...

[Q] Reliablility and privacy issues (sms and alarm clock)

Good day,
I have my GS now for about a month, in the beginning everything was really great. No problems but usual ones.
Since last week the alarm clock gets unreliable, it is set for each day, same time, but sometimes it is not doing anything and today it woke me up an hour early. I don't understand why such a simple and basic program screwes around.
And for now i was just texting with my girl, but when i received a message from her it was just displayed in our normal conversation list. But somehow her number was changed into the number from one of my mates, so when i replied my mate got a message. Don't understand me wrong it ends up in the "good"conversation list, but it gets sent to a totally random person in my phone book.
All in all these are not the things i do wish to encounter on a phone like this.
Any other people here experienced similar problems?

Running any task killers ?

Yes, i do run "advanced task killer"

Also, are you running an approved ROM or a pre-release ROM

I'm running on the stock shipped rom, haven't rooted anything yet.
Purchased it a month ago at a Dutch provider/retailer, it has no simlock and neither have any crazy (potential dangerous) application been installed.
Rgds Lennart

paverhoofd said:
Yes, i do run "advanced task killer"
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Make sure the alarm clock is on the ignore list, though this wouldn't explain the hour early problem. Also, I'm not positive if the ignore list works for automated task killing, though it'd only make sense that it does work that way.
ATK is only worth manual operation IMHO, running it in the background, especially at night when the phone should be idle, will cause battery drain.
Besides ATK, likely cause would be firmware. Though you are assuming that this is a problem in the alarm app based on your question of how a simple program could go so wrong, there could be issues with your clock and/or alarm program syncing to the clock (not actually sure that's a process, but hey). Obviously, bad(/no) info in -> bad (/no) info out.

Ok, I've put the clock on the ignore list and also rebooted, it had been switched on for at least two weeks.
This evening (nightjob) i was woken up at the set time and the sms function seems to be working ok now.
Thank you for your help/concerns, if anything else i will keep you posted.
Lennart

The SMS mixup seems to be a known bug in the messaging client. I have encountered it a few times b4. Read some others had it also. It is totally random when it happens. I have switched to handcent and it doesn't have this problem.

[Q] Porcesses that keep the phone up?

Hi, I am using watchDog to try to see what processes start while the phone is in sleep mode. But I cannot find anything on WatchDog that tells me what is consumming battery.
I hope I make it clear.
The situation is the following.
When the phone is sleeping, with no 3g or wifi, it takes around 10% in 8 hours. Just iddle. This happens at night. When sleeping.
As soon as I wake up, I turn on 3g. And the battery starts draining. I understand this is normal. But should the phone be awake all the time just by having 3g on?
The awake bar is almost full. Eventhough the phone is locked. This happens only when I turn 3g or wifi on.
That's basically my question. Sorry if it is misleading or something.
Regards

the phone will be awake if you installed some rogue app that connects to the net every 2 minutes to check something, or just some badly coded app.

So I should start uninstalling each app to see which is the one? Or can I use an application that will tell me that? Itried watchdog, but got no success.
Any ideas?

I've found eBuddy to keep my Awake bar completely solid... EVEN if I'm completely exited out of it. It has to do with the fact that like any other app, Gingerbread keeps a cached version of the process in the background. But in eBuddy's case, staying cached causes the phone to stay awake, so the only way to resolve this is to completely kill eBuddy and any of its cached processes.
That's why I still run ATK at 30 minute kill intervals. Getting great battery life. Here's my original post on this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094666

almorsol said:
So I should start uninstalling each app to see which is the one? Or can I use an application that will tell me that? Itried watchdog, but got no success.
Any ideas?
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You can start by going into settings -> applications -> running services
Tap the "menu" button and make sure you are looking at only "show services in use" as opposed to all services including cashed.
You will get a list of about 10-30 (depending on what you installed and how you configured the phone)
Then go to settings -> accounts and sync, and under "manage accounts", see what accounts you created that sync up with somehting. make sure the icons (round circles) are green only for the accounts you truly want to sync.
Also tap through each account you do want to sync and check the sync settings . If there is an account that is set to sync every 2 minutes, or is set to sync at an unreasonable short time, change that. There could also be a bunch of account you what to totally switch into "manual sync" mode, for example email addresses you do not care about.

cmd512 said:
I've found eBuddy to keep my Awake bar completely solid... EVEN if I'm completely exited out of it. It has to do with the fact that like any other app, Gingerbread keeps a cached version of the process in the background. But in eBuddy's case, staying cached causes the phone to stay awake, so the only way to resolve this is to completely kill eBuddy and any of its cached processes.
That's why I still run ATK at 30 minute kill intervals. Getting great battery life. Here's my original post on this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094666
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I will install ATK and follow your steps buddy. Will let you know how this worked for me.
Regards.

I will do the same. Thank you!

Have a query, What Auto Kill level should I set and what's the difference between Crazy-Aggressive-Safe? I atm at Agressive!

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Have a query, What Auto Kill level should I set and what's the difference between Crazy-Aggressive-Safe? I atm at Agressive!
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I do Crazy, 30 minutes, and Low level so that I can see all processes (including system level). I then run my phone as usual and add any/all system related processes to the ignore list.
Good luck, and hope it works for you as well.

I just made a test, and found that the app that makes my phone to be awake all the time is the MSN Talk Pro.
I disabled it, and everything went to normal.
Is this normal in IM apps, since the other person was having the issue with ebuddy?
How could I have the IM app running without having my phone awake all the time?
The task killer would definetly work, but then I would not be able to get msn messages.
Is this the only option?
Thank you.

almorsol said:
I just made a test, and found that the app that makes my phone to be awake all the time is the MSN Talk Pro.
I disabled it, and everything went to normal.
Is this normal in IM apps, since the other person was having the issue with ebuddy?
How could I have the IM app running without having my phone awake all the time?
The task killer would definetly work, but then I would not be able to get msn messages.
Is this the only option?
Thank you.
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Let me try to explain the situation.
If you have an IM client and you want it to be ready to accept messages from your buddies, it has to be in "listening" state to "hear" from your buddies. How that "listening" state is implemented by the developer defines how much batt power the application is eating.
Two opposite example:
1) Some stupid developer coded the IM client to always stay in foreground on your phone, actively pinging the servers on the internet , asking the servers if you have new messages. Your battery is wasted big time man.
2) A smart developer coded the IM client to use Google's C2DM interface (Cloud to Device Messaging framework). Such an app will stay dormant on the phone, and will be woken up by the android core processes whenever a new message arrives for you - Google servers will wake up the app on your phone. Such an app will not waste battery much.
There are a number of variations that go in between (1) and (2) above. So there is no clear-cut good or bad app. All depends on the implementation, and also on the way you configure your phone and the app on it.
Latest version of eBuddy was supposed to use C2DM too.
Ad the new Trillian is using C2DM. I never tried any of these though, can't vouch for any.
Just keep trying various IM apps until you find one that does not stay awake.

cmd512 said:
I do Crazy, 30 minutes, and Low level so that I can see all processes (including system level). I then run my phone as usual and add any/all system related processes to the ignore list.
Good luck, and hope it works for you as well.
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It has worked for me mate, worked well I should say. You deserve a Thanks mate.
I set it on Aggressive mode, with Auto kill at an interval of 1 hour, and NO apps but only my Power Schedule app in Ignore list, and I kept the Network On (Normally I use Flight Mode at night time), and after 9½ hours the battery drained just 2%, from 90% to 88%. Usually on Flight Mode I used to have a 3-4% drain overnight, so it's a big improvement.
BUT there are still two small but solid Awake bar present there while the Screen was off! What could be the reason? Is it because ATK was running and caused the Awake bar by itself or other apps? Take a look at the pic.
I have another query,
If I don't add any system apps (those come by default) to the Ignore list will there be any problem?
Regards.

kreoXDA said:
Let me try to explain the situation.
If you have an IM client and you want it to be ready to accept messages from your buddies, it has to be in "listening" state to "hear" from your buddies. How that "listening" state is implemented by the developer defines how much batt power the application is eating.
Two opposite example:
1) Some stupid developer coded the IM client to always stay in foreground on your phone, actively pinging the servers on the internet , asking the servers if you have new messages. Your battery is wasted big time man.
2) A smart developer coded the IM client to use Google's C2DM interface (Cloud to Device Messaging framework). Such an app will stay dormant on the phone, and will be woken up by the android core processes whenever a new message arrives for you - Google servers will wake up the app on your phone. Such an app will not waste battery much.
There are a number of variations that go in between (1) and (2) above. So there is no clear-cut good or bad app. All depends on the implementation, and also on the way you configure your phone and the app on it.
Latest version of eBuddy was supposed to use C2DM too.
Ad the new Trillian is using C2DM. I never tried any of these though, can't vouch for any.
Just keep trying various IM apps until you find one that does not stay awake.
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Thanks man.
I will keep trying some of them. Starting with the ones you said.

almorsol said:
Hi, I am using watchDog to try to see what processes start while the phone is in sleep mode. But I cannot find anything on WatchDog that tells me what is consumming battery.
I hope I make it clear.
Regards
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I have recently removed watchdog and noticed that battery consumption rapidly reduced...

Turn on screen when notification arrives

Hey, compared to lots of stuff going around over here at xda i guess you wouldnt mind helping some noob out, is there anyway to light up the screen when a notification arrives (for like 5 or 7 seconds). thanks a bunch !

Use TASKER with SECURE SETTINGS or application (paid) Knock²+ V2 (specially created for your need).

Raven78uk said:
Use TASKER with SECURE SETTINGS or application (paid) Knock²+ V2 (specially created for your need).
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thing is that drains my battery as ****k, isnt there any alternative ?

I'm not a pro but in my opinion you can't expect to use that feature without significant power drain.
Every time when screen goes on some of the handlers wakes up many proesses i.e. weather refresh, sync refresh etc. and also wakelocks.
btw. try some other kernels and check which one works best for you. I'm using ktoonz kernel with pac rom and get around 5.5 h screen on. With moderate use (some games, emails, calls and kik messaging etc) i dont need to charge my phone for 48h.

Raven78uk said:
I'm not a pro but in my opinion you can't expect to use that feature without significant power drain.
Every time when screen goes on some of the handlers wakes up many proesses i.e. weather refresh, sync refresh etc. and also wakelocks.
btw. try some other kernels and check which one works best for you. I'm using ktoonz kernel with pac rom and get around 5.5 h screen on. With moderate use (some games, emails, calls and kik messaging etc) i dont need to charge my phone for 48h.
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i actually found the exact feature i need on lightflow (its the app i use to manage my led lights).. but it seems not to be working, i check that box and screen just wont turn on, any clue }?

[Guide] How to Keep Android System Drain Minimal - Battery Life Boost

Good Day all,
I have benefitted greatly from Google and XDA. So I thought I would provide a consolidated way of saving our battery's grace from Android System demonic drain.
I am running Euphoria with Furnace, and I had loads of Gapps installed.
I tried multiple attempts over a 3 days period and did many researches back and forth. And it came down to these few main culprits:
1. Android Location Services
2. Google Play Services
3. Qualcomm Location Services
4. Google Now Launcher
5. Unwanted Sync
Tools I have used to assist in this matter.
1. Disable Service - here
2. Greenify
3. Privacy Guard (should be in built in most custom roms)
4. Titanium Backup
Basically the highest causing drain came from Google Play Services and Qualcomm Location Services. These items persistently wakes the phone up and runs on the background. Using greenify on there further cause issues as greenify tries to hibernate these services over and over again, making this a self-made draining routine.
I followed this thread on Google Play Services drain fix and used the Privacy Guard to perform those tricks. I ran through ALL Google Related Apps and as long as "Keep Awake", "Wake up" or "Auto Start" is enabled, I disabled them. I also look through apps I suspect were waking phone up by looking at the last activation of those events (Keep Awake, Wake Up, Auto Start).
Next I followed this thread on Guide to disable google play internal services using Disable Service app. I also took the opportunity to look at both 3rd party apps and system apps to see if there are services that could be disabled. I disabled Apex Notifier as I realize I didn't needed its service.
Then the next sneaky culprit was the Qualcomm Location Services. Even though I froze them with Titanium Backup, they persist in the system. So making a backup of them, I uninstalled them completely. Hasn't caused me any issue with GPS or Maps. They are namely, com.qualcomm.location and com.qualcomm.services.location. Both appeared as LocationServices 1.0 on Titanium Backup.
I went ahead to Greenify many Google Apps, namely Google App, Google Play Store, Google Services Framework, Google+. I also Greenify many apps that Greenify suggested would slow system down or appear to run in the background which I have no use for.
Lastly I uninstalled Google Now Launcher as it was persistently coming up as alternative home launcher even though I froze it. And I also went through settings of apps to make sure sync were turn off. I only kept Calender and Contacts and Gmail Sync on.
Now I have reduced Android System from 34% to 2% and increased my SOT from 2++ hours to 4++ hours at least. Not an out of earth SOT, but I believe that's decent.
Hope I helped and I wish you all the best in your endeavour to reduce Android System Drain. Cheers.

Thanks bro
Will try and give feedback asap

Suscribed, Rated, and Thanked.
I didn't had time to do any research on this, and this thread appeared on the right time.
Thanks

Paradoxxx said:
Suscribed, Rated, and Thanked.
I didn't had time to do any research on this, and this thread appeared on the right time.
Thanks
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metuncc said:
Will try and give feedback asap
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Your feedbacks will be appreciated. It works for me and I hope it works for you. And hopefully help many others that face our problem. Cheers

I can't seem to find App Ops anywhere..
Edit: found it by the name "Access lock" but there is no google play services in there..

bestest609 said:
I can't seem to find App Ops anywhere..
Edit: found it by the name "Access lock" but there is no google play services in there..
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It should be found in settings page, "Privacy".

I know that this guide is meant for CM based ROMs but I said to myself "ehh, what the hell" and I tried it on my Cloudy 2.2 and the results were horrible. Had to fully charge my device twice in order to go through 22 hours and a total of 2h of screen on time which consisted mostly of browsing and messaging. Wakelock Detector told me that the device was mostly asleep and everything was normal in the Batter Usage menu. Usually I get around 18-20h on a full charge with 2,5-3h SoT. Maybe the locations tweeks were not liked by my Tasker app and caused a huge battery drain, although it didn't appear that much as a wakelock trigger.
I am wondering if the problem was caused by Tasker or the stock ROM itself, but badly I do not have the time now to tweak around and I am reverting back to my previous configuration.

steelclaw said:
I know that this guide is meant for CM based ROMs but I said to myself "ehh, what the hell" and I tried it on my Cloudy 2.2 and the results were horrible. Had to fully charge my device twice in order to go through 22 hours and a total of 2h of screen on time which consisted mostly of browsing and messaging. Wakelock Detector told me that the device was mostly asleep and everything was normal in the Batter Usage menu. Usually I get around 18-20h on a full charge with 2,5-3h SoT. Maybe the locations tweeks were not liked by my Tasker app and caused a huge battery drain, although it didn't appear that much as a wakelock trigger.
I am wondering if the problem was caused by Tasker or the stock ROM itself, but badly I do not have the time now to tweak around and I am reverting back to my previous configuration.
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Try using GSam battery monitor to find out the real culprit. I used that to boil down to the final two irritants - Qualcomm LocationServices.

Really enjoying the app.
Here are the screenshots:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/fvzvyvdsfqr1e89/AABeH-BwUHKOjpqnXaFcATbaa

steelclaw said:
Really enjoying the app.
Here are the screenshots:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/fvzvyvdsfqr1e89/AABeH-BwUHKOjpqnXaFcATbaa
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Kernel OS issue I am not too sure what issues are they. The issues I had was high Android OS drain.

@JokerAce my friend ...nice to see you posting useful advice ....gonna grab it ...especially qualcomm service....thanks mate
/LG-G3/d-855/16Gb/Titanium Black/

m1trand1r said:
@JokerAce my friend ...nice to see you posting useful advice ....gonna grab it ...especially qualcomm service....thanks mate
/LG-G3/d-855/16Gb/Titanium Black/
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Thanks mate )