Hello!
I was just wondering if the Desire Z is remote Sim Access Profile (rSAP) enabled. I got a car with a build in (Audi) bluetooth system and though I'm able to connect my blackberry with SAP, I cannot find out how (and if) it's possible with my Desire Z.
Did someone manage to get such a connection? (not a simple bluetooth connection as standard headsets)
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Hello,
Has anyone managed to pair a blackstone (Touch HD) or a touch pro (I guess there will be no big differences in their bluetooth stack, if both run wm6.1) using RSAP in a bluetooth enabled car radio? I am having the RNS 510 (VW) and my past HTC Artemis with wm5 could pair without any problem using the sapsettings program. Now, in wm6.1, the Sim Access Protocol is enabled from the bluetooth menu. The pairing procedure stops when I enter the pairing pin, it seems that something in the phone is running that does not allow full access to sim? (next step in the pairing would be to enter the sim's pin, but the RNS510 stops connection there)
I have also tried the btsap_test from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273857&page=17 without any success.
My rom is 1.14.401.3.
Thanks in advance,
Nectarios
Works fine on my VW Passat, it pairs without any problems.
What ROM version do you have? Are you having a premium bluetooth in your RNS510? My problem is that when I enter the 16 numbers pin, it does not ask me for pin, but says "connection is not possible".
Are you using any other sw apart from the bluetooth menu for enabling sim access?
Nectarios
To an2ony:
Have you changed devices using the same sim and redo pairings? It seems that a sim is "connected" to a phone and when you change phone devices using the same sim, the new phone cannot pair. I also tried to reset the old user profile.
Thanks,
Nectarios
To an2ony:
Have you changed devices using the same sim and redo pairings? It seems that a sim is "connected" to a phone and when you change phone devices using the same sim, the new phone cannot pair. I also tried to reset the old user profile.
Thanks,
Nectarios
problem after pairing htc to car kit
an2ony said:
Works fine on my VW Passat, it pairs without any problems.
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I have a question:
When you connection your htc to VW (after first pairing), you must enter pin code - wich ist this pin - sim pin ?, car kit pin or none ?
Hi!
I have a question regarding android devices in general. The main question is if this idea is possible with the right app or if you need special hardware?
I want to develop an app that let's you use any android device as a bluetooth headset connected to a cellphone. The setup is primarily for a car installation but other uses are also possible. This is how I want it to work:
I install an Android MID in my car and connect it to the stereo using a cable or bluetooth (depending on whats possible) to get the sound from the mid to the cars speakers. On this MID I'll have google maps and Spotify (or pandora) for navigation and music. So far this is nothing special, but I also want to be able to answer and make calls from a connected (bluetooth) phone (like on many dedicated gps).
By doing this I want the driver (any driver) to be able pair his/her phone with the MID. The calls to the connected phone will be displayed on the MID so their phones can stay in their pockets.
1. Is it possible to answer a telephone call to a cellphone by using an "answer" button on a bluetooth connected android device? Example "My Desire is connected by bluetooth to the android MID. When an external call is made to the Desire I can anser it from the MID".
2. If the answer to no 1 is Yes, is it at the same time possible to share internet via the same bluetooth connection?
Anyone have any idea if this is possible with the right app or if it need special hardware?
Sorry for bad english and long question..
- A
Bathyon said:
Hi!
I have a question regarding android devices in general. The main question is if this idea is possible with the right app or if you need special hardware?
I want to develop an app that let's you use any android device as a bluetooth headset connected to a cellphone. The setup is primarily for a car installation but other uses are also possible. This is how I want it to work:
I install an Android MID in my car and connect it to the stereo using a cable or bluetooth (depending on whats possible) to get the sound from the mid to the cars speakers. On this MID I'll have google maps and Spotify (or pandora) for navigation and music. So far this is nothing special, but I also want to be able to answer and make calls from a connected (bluetooth) phone (like on many dedicated gps).
By doing this I want the driver (any driver) to be able pair his/her phone with the MID. The calls to the connected phone will be displayed on the MID so their phones can stay in their pockets.
1. Is it possible to answer a telephone call to a cellphone by using an "answer" button on a bluetooth connected android device? Example "My Desire is connected by bluetooth to the android MID. When an external call is made to the Desire I can anser it from the MID".
2. If the answer to no 1 is Yes, is it at the same time possible to share internet via the same bluetooth connection?
Anyone have any idea if this is possible with the right app or if it need special hardware?
Sorry for bad english and long question..
- A
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With the right app, sure. Not sure if you can do it over bluetooth tho, maybe get a SIM for the MID and have your phone forward calls to it while your in the car. But i bet someone could figure out the bluetooth thing.
First of all, there is a problem connecting to the phone wifi due to it being an "ad -hoc" network. But the phone through the tablet is a great idea and some of us are working with such a prototype called "FLEX" it will be a small unlocked cell phone device that connects via BT to the tablet and handles the phone function for the tablet as you have described. Send me a pm if you would like more info.
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He's talking about Bluetooth not WiFi
allus_drummer said:
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He's talking about Bluetooth not WiFi
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I know he is talking about Bluetooth... but he also mentioned wanting to connect to 3g of the phone for data I believe.
I've actually had this idea as well! I don't know much about bluetooth programming, but there should be some way to spoof the phone bluetooth device ID or whatever to make the other device believe it's talking to a bt headset. I'm going to guess it might require root.
If you do decide to start coding something like this, let me know how i can help (ie, testing).
cheers,
q
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Thanks for all the answers. I don't think I'm able to program this myself but was interested in if the concept was possible. If it is I sure hope someone creates it. I would pay good money for a solution like that and I think others would to.
If you come across more information regarding projects in this area please let me know.
Thanks again.
Hey guys,
I'm trying to connect my HD Mini with my Audi's rSAP adaptor (which is located in the center arm rest, so it's not the Audi in-built MMI-phone module). As far as I know the rSAP adaptor is identical to the adaptors available for VW and Skoda cars(?).
My Mini ist Vodafone branded, the ROM-Version is 1.11.162.1 (87652) GER, Manila-Version is2.5.20131825.1.
All of the first attempts to connect by SAP failed. After entering the 16-digit pin the HD Mini shows a message that the "Sim-Access-Adapter" wants to use a SAP connection. After accepting this screen the Mini shows the SIM Access profile on the bluetooth configuration screen for less than a second and then the HD Mini falls back to a hands-free connection.
After playing around with settings, resetting both devices I gave up and started a support call at Audi and HTC. When Audi tried at least to provide some helpful information, HTC provided less than nothing, their DACH support totally refused to provide anything! :sad: My previous HTC devices all connected fine to the rSAP-adaptor (though they weren't listed to be compatible with the adaptor). My Rose worked fine for months and also my S710 (by using the additional rSap sw-tool) are still able to establish a SAP connection while the HD Mini can't.
Then occurred the strange thing: My Audi MMI display showed the network strength symbol which is only shown if the Audi phone module have booked into my provider's net correctly.
I looked at the rSAP module: Same thing. It actually has booked into the net, which means the adaptor was able to read the SIM-card information. Next look to the HD Mini's display: It was booked into the net too but showed the "Sim-Access-Adapter" connected with Hands-free mode.
Since I'm using a Vodafone twin-card contract (second card is currently unused) having 2 devices booked into the provider's net can be explained but of course this state was extremly unstable:
My car's adaptor catched an incoming call and when I spoke and heard the voice in my car's speakers the HD Mini stroke back, catched the connection including the ongoing-call and I needed to continue on the HD Mini, while the MMI car's display showed no connection anymore.
Just a few seconds later I must recognize that the battle wasn't over: The car adaptor catched the call, (right now without SAP-mode but Hands-free mode) and I heard my colleague on the speaker again...for 10 seconds and this toggled again and again...
Since my older HTC gadgets worked fine and also the HD Mini is showing the adaptor's attempt for a SAP mode connection but then falls back to Hands-free-mode, I think that there must be some changes on the phone, bluetooth stack implementation, perhaps something with WM 6.5, it simply looks like a timing issue?
So right now I'm hoping that anyone can provide something useful. Perhaps an expert can point me to the right direction?
My last try would be to clear my second SIM-card on the weekend so that there are no contacts - perhaps this can make the difference... :-\
Any help is greatly appreciated of course!
Thanks and cheers, Alf.
Btw: Great board with tons of helpful information!
Quick Update:
I completed a hard reset to Audi MMI, Audi rSAP-adaptor, HTC HD Mini and removed all contacts and SMS saved on my second SIM-card but unfortunately no change in the behaviour of the HD Mini.
But then surprisingly another HTC support guy dropped me a line today so it seems that my support call at HTC is currently still in progress although the first HTC support contact refused any help...so let's see and wait...
Cheers, Alf.
Hallo!
Did you get any useful information from HTC support?
I'm using a HTC HD mini in a new VW Sharan with Premium FSE (so via rSAP). In general it works, but ...
a) often the connection process fails and I have to klick on "connect" manually.
b) sometimes I only get a standard FSE connection (not premium) and when I leave my car for some minutes and come back, it works again with "premium"
c) sometimes my HD mini does not reactivate the phone module after I left my car.
Michael
Although they tried to help and provided a tracking tool which logged status information about the bluetooth communication stack I never received additional help after providing my bluetooth log.
I ended in using the HDMini with the Audi built-In Bluetooth module of the MMI instead of the rSap adapter. :-(
That way the internal antenna of the car is not in use but at least the MMI is displaying the phone contacts...
Cheers, Alf.
So, I have been playing with the latest CM 7 build on my Nook Color that has Bluetooth enabled. Are there any applications that can Bluetooth tether a android tablet to a BlackBerry? I've got PDANet on my BlackBerry so it is advertising a bluetooth network conenction, but there isn't anyway I know of to connect to it using Bluetooth DUN. I know Ipas has the iBluever....is there anything similar in android world?
On a side note, bluetooth has been working well for copying contacts, video and pics. I don't have anything else to try pairing with (except my laptop) so limited in what I can test. All in all, can't wait for this to get rolled into the honeycomb build (if that is possible).
Now that I got BT working on my NC with CM7 I am also looking to teather my nc to a nokia E52..
Not sure about bumping etiquette around here, so I hope I'm not stepping on any toes, but I'm also interested in tethering a non-Android/iOS phone to my NC over bluetooth. I have a Sony Ericsson W760, which tethers really easily to any PC with SE's PC Suite application. The devices will connect, allowing the phone to act as a remote for the NC (maybe useful if NC is connected to a stereo for music) and allowing one-way file transfer from phone to NC, but that's it. I'd love to tether 3G, GPS, or even the camera and mic/speakers.
I would think it wasn't possible because of BlackBerry limitations (I'm a pretty hardcore BB geek) but as the OP points out, iBluever does it for ipod.
Maybe a dev here would be able to do something like this?
Just spent about 15 minutes googling it and couldn't find any app that would do it.
ArmitageID said:
So, I have been playing with the latest CM 7 build on my Nook Color that has Bluetooth enabled. Are there any applications that can Bluetooth tether a android tablet to a BlackBerry? I've got PDANet on my BlackBerry so it is advertising a bluetooth network conenction, but there isn't anyway I know of to connect to it using Bluetooth DUN. I know Ipas has the iBluever....is there anything similar in android world?
On a side note, bluetooth has been working well for copying contacts, video and pics. I don't have anything else to try pairing with (except my laptop) so limited in what I can test. All in all, can't wait for this to get rolled into the honeycomb build (if that is possible).
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Hi guy，I and your case I use the BlackBerry 9700 pdanet also can not connect! !
You solve this problem?
Want your help ~
look for an app called NC tether or nookcolor tether in the android market... allowed me to tether to my iphone running MyWi...
I have installed the NC tether, but can not be found to the 9700's PDANET.
my skype:fuzhen1002
can u add my.
THS
Here is a BT pan commit that will be in the next nightly http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,6603,might help,there is a line referring to bt tether.
Ian
Does this work with any phone, in my case Nokia 5230?
Thanks.
SmartQ Q5 Bluetooth Dial Up Network
ArmitageID said:
So, I have been playing with the latest CM 7 build on my Nook Color that has Bluetooth enabled. Are there any applications that can Bluetooth tether a android tablet to a BlackBerry? I've got PDANet on my BlackBerry so it is advertising a bluetooth network conenction, but there isn't anyway I know of to connect to it using Bluetooth DUN. I know Ipas has the iBluever....is there anything similar in android world?
On a side note, bluetooth has been working well for copying contacts, video and pics. I don't have anything else to try pairing with (except my laptop) so limited in what I can test. All in all, can't wait for this to get rolled into the honeycomb build (if that is possible).
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Try this software: SmartQ Q5 Bluetooth Dial Up Network
The author's site is here: http://android.gval.biz/Q5_Bluetooth_DUN_installations.php
voided said:
Try this software: SmartQ Q5 Bluetooth Dial Up Network
The author's site is here: http://android.gval.biz/Q5_Bluetooth_DUN_installations.php
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I was able to set it up per the instructions, attempting to pair my NookColor to a Sony Ericsson W760 (JAVA powered walkman phone), but attempting to connect caused my NC to freeze twice in a row, requiring a hard reset.
Hi, i'd like to connect my phone to my car supporting rsap. According to specifications the LG H870 supports rSAP, however, when switching on bluetooth on the phone it won't find my car. Does anyone know how to enable rsap? Thx.