Help Me Choose a Tablet- Xoom or Flyer - Xoom General

Which one do you think is better, and why? I'm leaning towards the HTC because I'm a sucker for HTC Sense. Any chance Sense will be ported to The Xoom? Any word on the Wifi-Only pricing? I heard it will be about $640 for the 32GB, anyone know if that's true? Sorry if I'm asking too many questions.
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CCBPES34 said:
Which one do you think is better, and why? I'm leaning towards the HTC because I'm a sucker for HTC Sense. Any chance Sense will be ported to The Xoom? Any word on the Wifi-Only pricing? I heard it will be about $640 for the 32GB, anyone know if that's true? Sorry if I'm asking too many questions.
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Pretty unlikely that the Xoom will get Sense, that hasn't really been ported to any device other than HTC's. With the xoom you get stock google experience, so it gets updated first, Flyer when HTC chooses. I have heard that the Xoom wifi will be $540 at Sam's Club, but just a rumor so who knows for sure? Not us... I love my Xoom, yes it has some issues but I feel those will be addressed in a couple weeks with the first update.
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... heard that the Xoom wifi will be $540 at Sam's Club...
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The Xoom suddenly sounds a lot better.

First off, HTC sense CAN get ported and has gotten ported to devices other than HTC products. Also HTC is doing away with dual core and using a single core 1.5 ghz chip. And they aren't touching gingerbread and using a heavily modified 2.2.3 or some ****. I'm taking a **** right now
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dudeimgeorge said:
I'm taking a **** right now
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This made me laugh
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dudeimgeorge said:
First off, HTC sense CAN get ported and has gotten ported to devices other than HTC products. Also HTC is doing away with dual core and using a single core 1.5 ghz chip. And they aren't touching gingerbread and using a heavily modified 2.2.3 or some ****. I'm taking a **** right now
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The Flyer is actually running a modified 2.3 build with a tablet-specific version of Sense.
Sense eventually will come to the Xoom via some kinda port, but HTC has to release a tablet with 3.0 and Sense first. They have yet to even build Sense for 3.0 so it won't necessarily be available at the moment...
OP, these aren't really comparable imho. The Flyer is only 7" and runs 2.3 like I said and has a single core 1.5ghz processor, and the Xoom is 10" with 3.0 and running a dual core 1ghz processor. It really comes down to which size you prefer and how important 3.0 is to you.
Also, based on some rumors, the Flyer is not going to be much cheaper than the Xoom, which is kinda disappointing considering its only 7" and has a single-core processor.

I thought flyer had gingerbread -> honeycomb - not Froyo - so 2.3.3 not 2.2.3...?
Also I thought about this same question myself....
I came to the conclusion that:
1) I am using the tablet 99% of the time at home (so a bigger screen would be better, aka Xoom 10" over Flyer 7"
2) I won't be needing a 3g/data bundle as if I do need to then I'll use my phone - either Xoom or Flyer would be ok here.
3) I'm not overly bothered by note-taking or playing around with the pen - don't get me wrong, its an amazing feature if it works well as expected - but it's not that important to me (Xoom)
If I was out and about and wanting to make some quick notes in a meeting or such - then the Flyer would win in my opinion.
As I am going to be using it as a home-device in place of a laptop probably - then the Xoom with its larger screen wins it for me.

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I thought flyer had gingerbread -> honeycomb - not Froyo - so 2.3.3 not 2.2.3...?
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This is correct. Coming out with 2.3 + Tablet Sense. But I'm unsure on its upgrade path to 3.0.

Pretty sure HTC have said they'll be upgrading the Flyer to Honeycomb but they haven't given a date. Since they first need to port Sense to it, it might be a while.
Flyer looks like a good product but I'm not a fan of the 7th inch form factor.
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Pretty sure HTC have said they'll be upgrading the Flyer to Honeycomb but they haven't given a date. Since they first need to port Sense to it, it might be a while.
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I recall them saying that too.
Realistically Honeycomb will probably be at least 3 months from Xoom release - that seems to be a pretty much standard release time giving the last few releases...
that may be because google want their prime device to stand out among the rest for awhile - or because it takes people around 3 months to develop their sense/touchwiz/blur/whatever and test with multiple devices before roll out

I wouldn't by a flyer because it only has a single core cpu, and there's bound to be loads of heavier apps and widgets released that required a bit more steam when fitted to a tablet.
The Galaxy Tab 10 spec looks good. And the Galaxy Tab 7 is a bloody good tablet, so it has some pedigree.

checkbox111 said:
I wouldn't by a flyer because it only has a single core cpu, and there's bound to be loads of heavier apps and widgets released that required a bit more steam when fitted to a tablet.
The Galaxy Tab 10 spec looks good. And the Galaxy Tab 7 is a bloody good tablet, so it has some pedigree.
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I get what you're saying. There will, hopefully, be a lot of apps which will be optimised for a dual core processor. But a 1.5ghz single core is by no means a slouch. Imagine overclocking this to even 1.8ghz... nice!

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First off, HTC sense CAN get ported and has gotten ported to devices other than HTC products. Also HTC is doing away with dual core and using a single core 1.5 ghz chip. And they aren't touching gingerbread and using a heavily modified 2.2.3 or some ****. I'm taking a **** right now
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Just curious, what devices other than HTC's own has Sense been ported to? I wasn't aware of this, so I kindly retract my statement.
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Somewhat ported to the Droid, ported to the G2/Desire Z, failed porting to the Galaxy S.

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Somewhat ported to the Droid, ported to the G2/Desire Z, failed porting to the Galaxy S.
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Its on the G2 because it comes stock on the DZ (both are HTC Vision).

out of curiosity, am i the only one asking myself why on earth would you want a sense ui port? i mean big girls need love too but dang, that is the Fattest, Slowest ui on earth. some of the widgets are nice i guess, if your too lazy to click on the app drawer and open your app...
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idkwhothatis123 said:
out of curiosity, am i the only one asking myself why on earth would you want a sense ui port? i mean big girls need love too but dang, that is the Fattest, Slowest ui on earth. some of the widgets are nice i guess, if your too lazy to click on the app drawer and open your app...
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"big girls need love too". I think this sums up Sense ports perfectly LOL. I got Sense off my Evo ASAP when I bought it lol.

idkwhothatis123 said:
out of curiosity, am i the only one asking myself why on earth would you want a sense ui port? i mean big girls need love too but dang, that is the Fattest, Slowest ui on earth. some of the widgets are nice i guess, if your too lazy to click on the app drawer and open your app...
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I just like the way its setup, thats all. First Android I ever used was the HTC Hero running Eclair, I think. Does anyone know what kind of screen the XOOM has? I really liked the vibrant colors that HTCs seem to have. What are they? OMLEDs?
That's another reason I like Sense, everything looked so vibrant and colorful. When I look at pictures of the Xoom's homescreen, it looks dull and boring.

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[Q] Honeycomb rom port for Vibrant?

I was wondering if their was any way someone could start on a port of this? I asked the person working it and he said:
feel free to get people started in Samsung Vibrant forum
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Now if someone can do this; I may not be a dev but I will help in anyway I can be it posting about it in my blog/on youtube/twitter or just beta testing
Also since we got the official Xoom system dump
Plz let me know...I am willing to do all I can to help.
I would really like this. I hope people are willing to do it.
I sent this from my Vibrant!
The amount of work it would take would be redoodoodiculous.
Considering the amount the images will have to be resized to work and all the drivers and blah blah blah. Honeycomb will probably never come to smartphones other than from google, but we need to get gingerbread fully working first.
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Would be nice, but I will be content with just a working gingerbread ROM.
dpaul007 said:
Would be nice, but I will be content with just a working gingerbread ROM.
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i second that!
dpaul007 said:
Would be nice, but I will be content with just a working gingerbread ROM.
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I would be, but I have been waiting forever for Honeycomb and I will never ever be able to afford Xoom.
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i second that!
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Yeah even though i think honeycomb on smartphones would be pretty nice, we need to get gingerbread out to all phones first.
if official gingerbread comes to our phones. I'm going to stop flashing.
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why would you want honeycomb on a cellphone? Honeycomb is geared towards 7" plus displays like netbooks, tablets, and in the very near future 7 inch doubledin car stereo systems, yup you heard me right 7 inch touchscreen stereo systems with honeycomb will be coming out soon, my guess 2012 or 2013, currently trying to hack a chinese stereo system with windows ce on it, it has a 800 mhz processor and a separtate 500 mhz gpu processor, trying to hack into it now. I know the hardware can support honeycomb.
celltimemb said:
why would you want honeycomb on a cellphone? Honeycomb is geared towards 7" plus displays like netbooks, tablets, and in the very near future 7 inch doubledin car stereo systems, yup you heard me right 7 inch touchscreen stereo systems with honeycomb will be coming out soon, my guess 2012 or 2013, currently trying to hack a chinese stereo system with windows ce on it, it has a 800 mhz processor and a separtate 500 mhz gpu processor, trying to hack into it now. I know the hardware can support honeycomb.
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Yea, I know usually for 7" but I actually feel that the Vibrant's screen is big enough for Honeycomb...I mean its not that that much smaller the the Galaxy Tab 7".
And as for the hardware, I have seen the devs here do some very amazing things.
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Yea, I know usually for 7" but I actually feel that the Vibrant's screen is big enough for Honeycomb...I mean its not that that much smaller the the Galaxy Tab 7".
And as for the hardware, I have seen the devs here do some very amazing things.
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IMHO 4" is still much smaller than 7".... I dont think it's a good idea to put honeycomb on cell phone since even Google itself is doing a split version for next cellphone update...
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IMHO 4" is still much smaller than 7".... I dont think it's a good idea to put honeycomb on cell phone since even Google itself is doing a split version for next cellphone update...
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I understand what you are saying, and I understand that it would be a pain to resize images and whatnot for the Vibrant...But I really think honeycomb for the phone is a good idea...or even a honeycomb lite if need be.
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I understand what you are saying, and I understand that it would be a pain to resize images and whatnot for the Vibrant...But I really think honeycomb for the phone is a good idea...or even a honeycomb lite if need be.
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What about honeycomb specifically do you want, other than the name?
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What about honeycomb specifically do you want, other than the name?
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Mainly the lock screen, 3D acceleration(bc that 3d type youtube looked awesome), the whole drag and drop widgets to the different homescreen other then that I am good...but then again I think I just named off most of honeycomb features lol.
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IMHO 4" is still much smaller than 7"....
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Thats wat she said
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sgtmedeiros said:
The amount of work it would take would be redoodoodiculous.
Considering the amount the images will have to be resized to work and all the drivers and blah blah blah. Honeycomb will probably never come to smartphones other than from google, but we need to get gingerbread fully working first.
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Actually, from what I've heard/read, Honeycomb has built in compatibility for smaller screens like phones.
You guys don't get it, when we have honeycomb on our phones it will turrn the 4" to 7" screen.
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vamp6x6x6x said:
I would be, but I have been waiting forever for Honeycomb and I will never ever be able to afford Xoom.
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Get a Nook Color. CM7 nightlies are available now and the HC isn't bad (not great either, but they're working on it).
I'd be happy with GB on the Vibrant. I have it on my work phone (G2).
to those saying honeycomb will NOT come to smartphones...you guys are idiots. honeycomb does and will support phones,its just android needed an OS update to properly support the tablet market to fix scaling and hardware issues/support + new features.
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Get a Nook Color. CM7 nightlies are available now and the HC isn't bad (not great either, but they're working on it).
I'd be happy with GB on the Vibrant. I have it on my work phone (G2).
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I don't have money for a Xoom even let alone money for a Nook

The big tablet debate

So I'm a huge android nerd, and I really want a tablet. The problem I'm having is which one do I get. Here are some pros and cons I have for the ones that have been announced.
Xoom - While Motorola has impressed me with their quality and support for android phones, I feel, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the Xoom was released too early because Motorola was rushing to be the first. It has a lot of bugs and I'm not sure if it's worth taking the risk that they will support the device, or if I should wait for a second generation.
The LG slate - The specs are comparable to the Xoom and hopefully the extra time they are taking to release means there will be less bugs. I don't know much about LG as fast as android is concerned, but I am excited about the G2X phone coming out.
The Samsung Galaxy tab - I have a galaxy s phone, so that should tell you I have little faith in their ability to support their devices. I don't fault them for the original tab because they were the first and it was before dual core became the thing and before hummingbird was released. It sucks they can't or won't update the original tab, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying this one if it is really good. Again, my only issue with Samsung is that they continuously try to convince me they will support their devices and continuously let me down. Great displays, though.
HTC Scribe - Looks awesome, but single core? That wouldn't bother me much, but if they start releasing games and apps specific for dual core devices then anyone with that device is screwed.
Sho what do you think? Any input from Xoom users or anyone in general is appreciated.
Check out the Viewsonic Gtablet. Awesome specs, pretty much "unbrickable", easily customizable (perfect for android nerd), and best of all it's about 1/3 the price of the xoom, et al.
I have the xoom, iPad, and the Gtablet, and while my go to tablet is the xoom, I still can't believe how the Gtablet performs, and fun to play with (screen is not best though).
I think that virtually everything that's "unfinished" about the Xoom is really about what's unfinished in Honeycomb. So, no other vendor is going to be ahead of Motorola in this regard. In fact, they're likely to be BEHIND the Xoom to the extent that they have customized UI's and/or software that they're adding to their devices.
The only exception to this is the 4G upgrade, but I don't know of any other tablet except the HTC on Sprint's that guaranteed so far of getting 4G at all. So, that shouldn't be counted against the Xoom.
Note that I'm not trying to defend the Xoom here, but rather to point out that other devices are likely to be just as "unfinished" as the Xoom until Google releases the first big Honeycomb update. For myself, I'm going to take a good hard look at the Asus, simply because the idea of having a keyboard dock with another 24Wh battery is really attractive to me.
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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Except its still iOS which a lot of people around here try to avoid. Not because we are Android Fan Boys, but because we want it our way, not their way.
bnandrew said:
So I'm a huge android nerd, and I really want a tablet. The problem I'm having is which one do I get. Here are some pros and cons I have for the ones that have been announced.
Xoom - While Motorola has impressed me with their quality and support for android phones, I feel, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the Xoom was released too early because Motorola was rushing to be the first. It has a lot of bugs and I'm not sure if it's worth taking the risk that they will support the device, or if I should wait for a second generation.
The LG slate - The specs are comparable to the Xoom and hopefully the extra time they are taking to release means there will be less bugs. I don't know much about LG as fast as android is concerned, but I am excited about the G2X phone coming out.
The Samsung Galaxy tab - I have a galaxy s phone, so that should tell you I have little faith in their ability to support their devices. I don't fault them for the original tab because they were the first and it was before dual core became the thing and before hummingbird was released. It sucks they can't or won't update the original tab, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying this one if it is really good. Again, my only issue with Samsung is that they continuously try to convince me they will support their devices and continuously let me down. Great displays, though.
HTC Scribe - Looks awesome, but single core? That wouldn't bother me much, but if they start releasing games and apps specific for dual core devices then anyone with that device is screwed.
Sho what do you think? Any input from Xoom users or anyone in general is appreciated.
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Xoom user here and I say wait til LG and Samsung release their Tabs, play with all of them and then decide. As far as the Scribe is concerned they already make tablet specific games so with that your already screwed.
Visual360 said:
Check out the Viewsonic Gtablet. Awesome specs, pretty much "unbrickable", easily customizable (perfect for android nerd), and best of all it's about 1/3 the price of the xoom, et al.
I have the xoom, iPad, and the Gtablet, and while my go to tablet is the xoom, I still can't believe how the Gtablet performs, and fun to play with (screen is not best though).
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I also have GTab (that I'm willing to sell to anyone who wants it btw) and I have to say that customizing it is fun but using it is not. The screen is horrible and I mean really really bad, a disaster when you see it next to your phone or the xoom.
kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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That's not even one of his choices and I'm sorry but I think the xoom trumps the ipad 2 in almost all categories.
Just my input on the matter. Hope it helps.
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Except its still iOS which a lot of people around here try to avoid. Not because we are Android Fan Boys, but because we want it our way, not their way.
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Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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I still cant stand looking at the square icons all over my screen. iOS, even when jailbroken, is still boring to look at. Just my opnion but you still wouldnt be able to customize the iPad2 like I have with my Xoom.
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kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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Except the Jailbreak for iPad2 is still on the "horizon".
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Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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"Widgets".
kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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You really are barking up the wrong tree here. While the iPad 2 is great for my grandma and other non tech savvy people this is XDA DEVELOPERS and the iPad goes against everything we do here. Even with jailbreaking you will never get the full customization that you get with Android, never. Steve jobs thinks he knows best for his followers and always will. I even went and checked one out because it is more compatable with my colleges online learning center but I took one look at that horrid UI and just couldn't do it. Not to mention honeycomb is an actual tablet operating system, ios is the same OS as the iPhone just with some tablet friendly apps. Great for my gf and my mom but definitely not for someone like me who likes to tinker.
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No Sense 3.0 for Evo, other older devices (updated)

UPDATE: HTC made a clarification on their twitter acct. See this post for the txt, or go visit The Twitter Post -- thanks Bioxoxide for the heads up.
This shouldn't be shocking to anyone....... but:
From Engadget (link: http://engt.co/eX1niG )
"Unfortunate news for anyone who saw HTC's Sense 3.0 UI and started dreaming about seeing it on their Desire HD, Incredible S or any other handset that doesn't ship with it preloaded. HTC has said that because of the hardware requirements of the fancier new Android skin, only the dual-core Sensation 4G and EVO 3D smartphones and the 1.5GHz Flyer tablet will be benefiting from it for now."
Guess we will continue to have to rely on our Devs until they all jump ship like on the HeroC.
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This shouldn't be shocking to anyone....... but:
From Engadget (link: http://engt.co/eX1niG )
"Unfortunate news for anyone who saw HTC's Sense 3.0 UI and started dreaming about seeing it on their Desire HD, Incredible S or any other handset that doesn't ship with it preloaded. HTC has said that because of the hardware requirements of the fancier new Android skin, only the dual-core Sensation 4G and EVO 3D smartphones and the 1.5GHz Flyer tablet will be benefiting from it for now."
Guess we will continue to have to rely on our Devs until they all jump ship like on the HeroC.
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not surprised about this
Might be that the launcher is GPU accelerated and was made specifically for the adreno 220.
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Good thing I no longer use sense!
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Just read this myself. It's actually a little upsetting, as I do like sense. Oh well =(
I can understand why they're doing this. Even though the Evo might be able to run it, if its laggy, casual users will be complaining like crazy. Then they'll run into a situation like Apple did when they stripped features for the iPhone 3g, but it was still almost unusable.
Btw, sorry if I offended anyone by mentioning the "A-word", haha
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Oh well ill be enjoying the new Sense on my new EVO 3D
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No bigs and totally expected.
not a prob to me..thx to ROOT. its gonna get ported probabaly anyways. if not well then ..its whatever.
It sucks for thunderbolt users tho, I read this article earlier and sent it to my friend to cancel his contract with Verizon before the 30 days
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Update from HTC
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Clarification: aspects of the latest HTC Sense won’t work on some previous devices. We are working to incorporate other aspects that will.
This isn't a shocker for me...there will probably be some ported version of Sense 3.0 but I doubt it'll run well. I'm completely fine without it.
I see this as bad this just means that the new sense is probly big bulky and poorly coded or they are lying and its not hardwear and they just want sense 3.0 to be a feature of newer devices to make them more appealing... I saw nothing in any video preview that looked like it needed a dual core... and I see no reason why adreno 200 wouldn't handle the 3d carousel thing
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Update from HTC
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We are working to incorporate other aspects that will.
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stimpyshaun said:
I see this as bad this just means that the new sense is probly big bulky and poorly coded or they are lying and its not hardwear and they just want sense 3.0 to be a feature of newer devices to make them more appealing... I saw nothing in any video preview that looked like it needed a dual core... and I see no reason why adreno 200 wouldn't handle the 3d carousel thing
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lol... try stock sense rom then come back.
Slow as could be.
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Where did you get/hear this part of your info?
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HTC's Twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/htc
This sux..
Ain't no thang gonna get me an evo 3D anyways come...... whenever it comes out
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[Off-Topic] Which tablet

I just wanted to ask you guys my fellow Epic owners if any of you own an Android tablet and from a development standpoint which one would you go with? Are there any Epic devs that do any tablet custom work?
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Bonsai has had a ROM out for the Galaxy 10.1 for a couple of weeks now. Also working on the ASUS Transformer.
Those are the two front runners on my list right now with Asus being in the lead.
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If I were to buy a tablet, i'd either get:
Cheap: Nook Color, already has a big community, cm7, hc
Not so cheap: Galaxy Tab 10.1, cleanest looking HC tablet I've seen, and I've seen 'em all.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
transformer has bang for buck value however ive seen two at work haber to be returned due to non responsive screens.
Galaxy 10.1 stopped me from buying the flyer/view. I really liked the 7 inch screen but the galaxy just felt great....nicest thing compared to the ipad.
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I'm getting a transformer once they fix the bugs and 3.0 is open source. I'm keeping an eye on the forums.
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Dont forget about HP touchpad.
Yeah it got many bugs and negative reviews due to bugs but after an update im sure that web os will shine on it.Its slow and lags because hp dint have anough time to write the code for touchpad's gpu so basicly right now cpu does all gpu tasks.
Yeah I want GS 10.1 too but I will wait and see if hp fixes touchpad first because I want something different from ios and android.
Ill be buying an android tablet once they stop using the tegra 2. Until then, 10 ft poll.
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Ill be buying an android tablet once they stop using the tegra 2. Until then, 10 ft poll.
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The transformer can be oced to 1.6 stable on a dual core tegra
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I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and I love it so much. It was a tough choice between the tab and the Asus transformer... but I just liked the size/weight of the tab better.
Don't buy a Honeycomb tablet.
Wait for Ice Cream or later when the interesting hardware and software optimizations take hold with 10 "retina display" equivalents and quad core processors.
I was gonna buy once a quad core came out..but after seeing a gtab for 250$ new that has a tegra 2 cpu I couldn't resist...it has a port of cm7 and honeycomb. and stuff...they aren't perfect but they work for the most part. Its biggest weakness right now is lack of honeycomb tegra 2 drivers and its screen is not the best LCD tech used..otherwise its ok..
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The transformer can be oced to 1.6 stable on a dual core tegra
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And still can't play media files my phone can . . . . .
That's why I have no interest in a tegra 2 tablet. Complete and utter failure to play ALL high profile h.264 video in at least 720p, which is something my epic can do and the original ipad can do. Yes,, the original single core ipad..
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I was gonna buy once a quad core came out..but after seeing a gtab for 250$ new that has a tegra 2 cpu I couldn't resist...it has a port of cm7 and honeycomb. and stuff...they aren't perfect but they work for the most part. Its biggest weakness right now is lack of honeycomb tegra 2 drivers and its screen is not the best LCD tech used..otherwise its ok..
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The 7" gab does not have a tegra 2 and is not dual core.
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I had a sylvania tablet for the the longest and manged to get Google Market and froyo on it (unless you had one, you know that was a GREAT feat!) and I was happy with it...unfortunately, circumstances forced me to sell it and when I did he had just gotten rid of his 7' Galaxy Tab, telling me that the simplest tilt would make it change orientation quickly. I was surprised that he chucked it for a sylvania. I plan on either getting a Color Nook next, or try to find a sale on an Acer a500.
Also:ironically, 3 weeks after I sold the Sylvania Tablet, the source code was finally released for it, which means development for it is soon to rise *sigh* real bad time, I guess...
We bought a bunch of sgtabs at work. Love mine from a practical standpoint, but the dev world is a bit behind. I don't think its lacking much, just a reliable cwm and then a complete set of stock files (modem, kernel, rom) and things will be moving. I expect the source will eventually come out. I hear that's what's lacking in the kernel dev dept. Personally I like samsung. When the 4g 10.1 is released I plan on getting that one. Despite the slow update releases, you have to admit, the galaxy s line rocks.
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I had a sylvania tablet for the the longest and manged to get Google Market and froyo on it (unless you had one, you know that was a GREAT feat!) and I was happy with it...unfortunately, circumstances forced me to sell it and when I did he had just gotten rid of his 7' Galaxy Tab, telling me that the simplest tilt would make it change orientation quickly. I was surprised that he chucked it for a sylvania. I plan on either getting a Color Nook next, or try to find a sale on an Acer a500.
Also:ironically, 3 weeks after I sold the Sylvania Tablet, the source code was finally released for it, which means development for it is soon to rise *sigh* real bad time, I guess...
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I looked at the Acer A500 for a long time, I really wanted it. But after read tablet reviews on Engadget I changed my mind. The A500 definitely looks great and has a great looking screen.
I have a motorola xoom and just got the 3.2 upgrade. The xoom is the default google experience device so it gets all of the updates (us only). Which is quite nice when compared to the epic's slow upgrade process.
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Don't buy a Honeycomb tablet.
Wait for Ice Cream or later when the interesting hardware and software optimizations take hold with 10 "retina display" equivalents and quad core processors.
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Hmmmm.....I think this is some
good advice. I'll hold off for a little bit.
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Dont forget about HP touchpad.
Yeah it got many bugs and negative reviews due to bugs but after an update im sure that web os will shine on it.Its slow and lags because hp dint have anough time to write the code for touchpad's gpu so basicly right now cpu does all gpu tasks.
Yeah I want GS 10.1 too but I will wait and see if hp fixes touchpad first because I want something different from ios and android.
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It's a single core CPU and has the weight and dimensions of the iPad 1.... No Netflix, kindle reader, and Skype on it sucks... It's also more expensive... Honestly, what does it have going for it? I'd love for webOS to take off, but it just keeps lagging behind by about 9 months...

Sprint Announcement regarding OTA update to Android 4.0 for HTC devices

http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...android-40-ice-cream-sandwich-for-htc-devices
Sprint will begin to rollout Google's latest version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, to our customers in early 2012. Ice Cream Sandwich will be available via an over-the-air update to a variety of devices including HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G and other key products in our line-up. Stay tuned for more details and exact timing.
On their facebook posting they also added this key bit of information:
Information about Ice Cream Sandwich for the original HTC EVO 4G will be communicated at a later date. So take that for what it is, but it looks like the EVO is in for possibly one last update.
Sucks the EVO 4G isn't on that list but then again its only a matter of time before a dev has a rom out for it
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I bet it will eventually get it. It was there star phone last year.
I have serious doubts the OG will get it but I'd be very happy to see it. They didn't even bother to update sense when they gave us gingerbread.
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What I don't understand is how can the design 4G run sense 3.0 smoothly, if I Overclock to 1.2ghz, I still can't get that smoothness on sense 3.0
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What I don't understand is how can the design 4G run sense 3.0 smoothly, if I Overclock to 1.2ghz, I still can't get that smoothness on sense 3.0
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Newer processor and gpu probably more ram as well
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I was fairly certain that the EVO 4G was not getting an official OTA of ICS. This makes me only more certain
Thank god for XDA
We will get it. If not officially, then unofficially. Who runs official rom's anyway?
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We will get it. If not officially, then unofficially. Who runs official rom's anyway?
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Hardly anyone here, but it provides a good base to make a stable and fully functional custom rom off of.
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I'm sure they have tested it out. The Evo doesnt have a gpu, and doesnt have enough ram to run ics smoothly. I'm sure there will be roms available for it, but no official updates.
Per http://androidandme.com/2011/11/new...e-of-devices-to-get-android-4-0-in-early-2012
A quick review of the list shows these are all newer devices released in 2011 with either a Snapdragon S2 or Snapdragon S3 processor. Google already said that aging devices like the Nexus One with a Snapdragon S1 processor were “too old” to be upgraded, so don’t get your hopes up if you have the original HTC EVO 4G that features similar specs.
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This is going to fragment the hell out of the Android market. Well, it will fragment it even further is what I mean by that.
*Sigh* The EVO is the most popular Android phone for Sprint and it's going to stuck in 2011 forever. Some people (Not me) may have purchased their EVO within the past 6 months and wouldn't be eligible for an upgrade until Android 5/6 is out. That's like a PR nightmare. Most people don't understand the "GeeBee's" or GHz concepts that we are familiar with, but what they will do is get bored after awhile of the same damn homescreen and want something with more piazza. People like new stuff! Especially when they don't have to pay for it. Even the technologically retarded see an update to (2.2/2.3) on their EVO and go, "Well this is cool!"
I don't really blame HTC, (Although I do wish the EVO had more internal storage) I blame Google. ICS is GPU intensive, which is nice and flashy, but that's a problem for older phones that can't process those fancy graphics. That's also going to be a drag for battery life, and I personally would rather have less swag and more function. They should of made a "light" version of ICS, or an option toggle-able on beefer handsets or "required" for older that lessens the graphics and RAM to both save battery life on high end phones and allows older handsets to upgrade to the new OS and still feel valid in this ever changing world of Moore's.
A light version would be nice. It's too bad the evo doesn't have better internals. If ics was to somehow get ported, the fancy graphics will lag like crazy.
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I'm sure they have tested it out. The Evo doesnt have a gpu, and doesnt have enough ram to run ics smoothly. I'm sure there will be roms available for it, but no official updates.
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The EVO, just like the Nexus One has an Adreno 200 GPU. It's pretty under powered compared to newer phones of course.
I have no doubt we'll see a few roms out for both the EVO and Nexus One, I'm sure they'll be broken at first but over time they'll become great.
We will get ICS ports no matter what. I'm not expecting an official OTA, but I would like to see some updated drivers and the newest kernel source (here the newest kernel has trickle charging!) from HTC
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The EVO, just like the Nexus One has an Adreno 200 GPU. It's pretty under powered compared to newer phones of course.
I have no doubt we'll see a few roms out for both the EVO and Nexus One, I'm sure they'll be broken at first but over time they'll become great.
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To be honest, all I'm interested in are the new Apps. I haven't used 4.0 on anything other than the SDK, but the new People (Contacts) App, the new Dialer, Gallery, Calendar and a few other miscs could be ported. The only problem is all the new API's wouldn't work. I honestly am too much of a LauncherPro lover to switch to the ICS launcher. (Give me a scrollable dock and I'll jump ship) And some apps like the Multitasking, keyboard and the new dictionary, may be baked too deeply into the OS to salvage as a a simple apk or install.
I'm sure the guys here at XDA will cook up something, I've already taken a few turns at butchering the Galaxy Nexus ROM that dropped a few days ago, but I'm sure there's a few more dedicated people really toying away getting stuff working on their "obsolete" device.
I just need to make it till August 2012, just gotta keep on telling myself that. Hello quad-core 2.0GHz EVO3! (That's a guess by the way.) Until then, CES is in two months, can't wait to go!
Yeah, I really want to wait for till next June at least too, though it'll be hard......but if we got a mostly stable version of ICS for our EVO's, it'd definitely be easier to wait.
The SGSII has been out for over 6 months now, and while it's still impressive, I feel like I'd be settling if I grabbed one or a phone like it.
Give me a 4.5-4.7 720p screen with no pentile, 1.5 or 2 gigs of ram and Cortex A-15 quad-core phone!
We'll have to wait till at least next June for something of the sort.
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Yeah, I really want to wait for till next June at least too, though it'll be hard......but if we got a mostly stable version of ICS for our EVO's, it'd definitely be easier to wait.
The SGSII has been out for over 6 months now, and while it's still impressive, I feel like I'd be settling if I grabbed one or a phone like it.
Give me a 4.5-4.7 720p screen with no pentile, 1.5 or 2 gigs of ram and Cortex A-15 quad-core phone!
We'll have to wait till at least next June for something of the sort.
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Yup, that's exactly what I'm looking forward to, you took the specs right out of my mouth. And to be honest, the community here for the original EVO is still superb 15 months after release.
The only things my phone can't do is play high-graphics games and NFC. The camera quality ticks me off sometimes and battery life can be a bummer, especially with an LCD screen. But the EVO is a solid device, I still get a few "What phone is that?" from people who are interested in the 4.3" display and my custom interface, most expect Sense.
Plus, kickstand. I mean come on guys... Kickstand.
We'll be booting* 4.0 within the next 3 months, I'm sure. Open source me some code Google. You already messed up with the minimum requirements, let us take it from here.
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Yeah, I really want to wait for till next June at least too, though it'll be hard......but if we got a mostly stable version of ICS for our EVO's, it'd definitely be easier to wait.
The SGSII has been out for over 6 months now, and while it's still impressive, I feel like I'd be settling if I grabbed one or a phone like it.
Give me a 4.5-4.7 720p screen with no pentile, 1.5 or 2 gigs of ram and Cortex A-15 quad-core phone!
We'll have to wait till at least next June for something of the sort.
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The sgsii not coming here for 6 months kind of makes it old already lol means Sammy has been updating it for half yr plus I mean that only leaves them with a yr required to update per the agreement they came to with Google. And doesn't the prime have a 200 gpu or some the same one as the nexus s just double the clock speed?
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I really wanted to get the Galaxy Nexus at first, but it has a pentile display, which isn't a total deal breaker, but LG has the Optimus LTE coming out soon to Europe with the same resolution and no pentile, so we should definitely see some phones with truly non-hampered HD screens soon enough.
The GPU in it is also the same as the one in the first iPad and first Galaxy S line of phones.......it's literally a GPU that's been around for years, which is very disappointing.
I know it'll still be admirable phone, and have great performance overall, but it's not the dream gadget everyone was hoping it would be.

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